Went on a first date with a Virgo woman
This topic was created in the Virgo Women forum by TheCardinalClaw on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 and has 22 replies.
What are you women all about?
Tell us your experience? What did you do? Where did you go?
You're lucky she agreed on going out with you..
If you're a player, she will eventually know it or maybe right now she's already thinking, dissecting, analyzing your personality.
She might be assessing your value right now but I assure you, she knows her worth and please.... Treat her right coz if you don't *pooof* she's gone!
I know my values and most Virgo women are conservative like me. I am a hard working individual and I expect the same thing from a potential partner.
Im a keen observer, I notices everything. I have excellent memory though not sure bout other Virgo. I am selective of whom to go out with so if you went
out with her, then there is something in you that makes her agreed to go on a first date. I as a Virgo, like intelligent convo if it's funny and intelligent it's a + point.
You should only go out with a Virgo if you think you can handle us properly.
You're lucky she agreed on going out with you..
If you're a player, she will eventually know it or maybe right now she's already thinking, dissecting, analyzing your personality.
She might be assessing your value right now but I assure you, she knows her worth and please.... Treat her right coz if you don't *pooof* she's gone!
I know my values and most Virgo women are conservative like me. I am a hard working individual and I expect the same thing from a potential partner.
Im a keen observer, I notices everything. I have excellent memory though not sure bout other Virgo. I am selective of whom to go out with so if you went
out with her, then there is something in you that makes her agreed to go on a first date. I as a Virgo, like intelligent convo if it's funny and intelligent it's a + point.
You should only go out with a Virgo if you think you can handle us properly.
"If you're a player, she will eventually know it or maybe right now she's already thinking, dissecting, analyzing your personality. "
+1
My sister (a Virgo) has a thing where she'll be interested in a guy, then suddenly she'll realize he has a personality flaw that she can't handle and stop talking to him out of the blue. She likes guys who are "real" and can instantly tell if he's being himself fully or hiding aspects of who he is.
I agree with the comment above- NEVER will a Virgo girl get played, so don't even think about it
+1
My sister (a Virgo) has a thing where she'll be interested in a guy, then suddenly she'll realize he has a personality flaw that she can't handle and stop talking to him out of the blue. She likes guys who are "real" and can instantly tell if he's being himself fully or hiding aspects of who he is.
I agree with the comment above- NEVER will a Virgo girl get played, so don't even think about it
I would like to know about your experience so far, as I am also dating a Virgo woman for the first time. We have had 5 dates though.
Posted by Lenore0908
Virgo women are strong, but appear soft to others. We like to take relationships slow. We usually won't lose our minds after sex, but instead keep a cool head.
We are patient and strong enough to deal with a lot of a guys b. s., but there is a tipping point, and if you cross it, you are done for good.
Somehow we manage to keep our emotions in check, probably because we don't like losing control of ourselves.
You may be tested to see how mentally strong you are. Flipping out, losing control and acting like your life depends on your partner will turn her off.
^^That right up there.
Im guessing TheCardinalClaw that you are a cancer? Im probably getting a duh from everyone lol
You ; not sloppy in dress,attitude or in the way you handle situations.Be real,be kind ,be ready for something serious.Be available relationship wise and emotionally.No drama with an ex that doesn't know they are an ex.Don't cling,really,don't cling.Be up to date in your financials,rent,child support ,live within your means.You don't have to spend every penny on us,but we can see through the plotting of a man/woman who can't make rent and wants a pretend relationship because you're broke.Good manners and clean hands.Have a clean everything as a matter of fact.Don't be cheap with answers,talk to us.Don't cling.And don't be loud or flirt with our friends.And being constantly late,we start the count down the end of things.(If you constantly have better things to do than to be with us,then it's obvious you need more time to do it,and we'll give you all the time you need).Be headed in some sort of direction,you don't have to be the head of a corporation or have fat pockets,but have an idea for your future.Don't live your life in a loop.
Us; slow to get involved,sometimes too slow,we can keep your secrets,we're caring,loyal,shy,underplayed sense of humor,gentle,easy to talk to, and givng. We need some space,we aren't two timing you,we are busy with details and projects. We remember the things you tell us, your likes and dislikes.We won't embarass you in front of your fellas,won't flirt with your friends,mothers like us,and we help you anyway way we can,we got resources.We can be sexual with the correct chemistry.We can't stand dreamers.We're quiet,we expect you to remember our likes and dislikes as well.We hate to be tested.Yes,we will test,if you have caught being bad.We won't bring it to your attention,the test is to see if it was a pure accident or if you meant it.And if you try to make us jealous to see if we care enough to fight for you,it's not going to happen my friend,just keep it moving with that thingy you brought into the picture.And,if it is over ,it will feel like Siberian winter even in the middle of August.Other than that ,we mean what we say,and will try to make your life as smooth as possible.We do have a spine made of stainless steel,but we still have a heart underneath our neat innocent looking exteriors.
Us; slow to get involved,sometimes too slow,we can keep your secrets,we're caring,loyal,shy,underplayed sense of humor,gentle,easy to talk to, and givng. We need some space,we aren't two timing you,we are busy with details and projects. We remember the things you tell us, your likes and dislikes.We won't embarass you in front of your fellas,won't flirt with your friends,mothers like us,and we help you anyway way we can,we got resources.We can be sexual with the correct chemistry.We can't stand dreamers.We're quiet,we expect you to remember our likes and dislikes as well.We hate to be tested.Yes,we will test,if you have caught being bad.We won't bring it to your attention,the test is to see if it was a pure accident or if you meant it.And if you try to make us jealous to see if we care enough to fight for you,it's not going to happen my friend,just keep it moving with that thingy you brought into the picture.And,if it is over ,it will feel like Siberian winter even in the middle of August.Other than that ,we mean what we say,and will try to make your life as smooth as possible.We do have a spine made of stainless steel,but we still have a heart underneath our neat innocent looking exteriors.
Posted by harry99Posted by TheCardinalClaw
What are you women all about?
*blink blink*
watch yourself sonclick to expand
^^^^^^ Didn't make the cut.Don't hate ,appreciate.
Us; slow to get involved,sometimes too slow,we can keep your secrets,we're caring,loyal,shy,underplayed sense of humor,gentle,easy to talk to, and givng. We need some space,we aren't two timing you,we are busy with details and projects. We remember the things you tell us, your likes and dislikes.We won't embarass you in front of your fellas,won't flirt with your friends,mothers like us,and we help you anyway way we can,we got resources.We can be sexual with the correct chemistry.We can't stand dreamers.We're quiet,we expect you to remember our likes and dislikes as well.We hate to be tested.Yes,we will test,if you have caught being bad.We won't bring it to your attention,the test is to see if it was a pure accident or if you meant it.And if you try to make us jealous to see if we care enough to fight for you,it's not going to happen my friend,just keep it moving with that thingy you brought into the picture.And,if it is over ,it will feel like Siberian winter even in the middle of August.Other than that ,we mean what we say,and will try to make your life as smooth as possible.We do have a spine made of stainless steel,but we still have a heart underneath our neat innocent looking exteriors.
This is so interesting. You could be the Virgo I am dating. I don't want to thread jack. I did start my own thread earlier today. I'm just wondering at what point do you believe the person you're dating and start initiating things; phone calls, texts, saying how you feel, etc. etc.?
I saw your post and went it.*shrugs*nope,just a typical Virgal.It depends on who badly things went off track.Badly in reality or badly from our POV.It takes awhile especially if something happened on our deal breaker list that wasn't in our heads but had expressed to you.Your situation is way different than The Cardinal Claws' is.One of you have got to stop the weaving in and out of your lives routine,because it could become a pattern and not move ahead.We'll call but if you kinda snap at us the we're not sticking our hands out again.I mean if you don't get you children the same time everytime,then she may think you don't have them at all and are just blowing her off.You too need to get on the same page,clear the air.Agree to start fresh and communicate better,obviously one of you is going to have to ask direct questions and get the other one in the habit of doing it back.If she feels safe,she'll call.Gawd,it's case of big time nerves until we get into the swing of things.If you've been in the FWB zone,then make it clear where you want to go,we don't want to over step our bounds with anyone.Texting ,only e-connected,FBing sharing a public moment,Feeling like she's yours,priceless.
Ok, well we met by chance, which is how I like things to happen actually. I dont like online dating, I dont do the bar scene, and dont do blind dates because people think they know what is best for me when they really dont. Although they mean well, the woman is never what is chalked up to be. I am very picky, but not in a snobby way by any means!
Anyway so we met by chance over coffee, the converation was instantly stimulating even though it was supposed to be for a professional reason, when she walked in and our eyes met my smile was instant and so was my greeting. Such a gorgeous virgo, although I didnt know she was until the end when she asked me when my birthday way, and I quickly responded by asking hers...because I wanted to know her sign! We kept the meeting short, did not want to drag anything out and ruin the short suspense. We agreed to exchange contact information and she gladly gave me her number. 5 days later we went out to dinner (hard for me to pick out the best first dinner spot, but it was good). Japanese steak house (not overdone or too fancy, just a smaller, dim lit venue with a sushi bar which we ate plenty of!).
Our conversations were inquisitive of each other, and invigorating at the same time. Have you ever learned so much about someone in such a brief period of time, without having worthless conversation about the weather, or the temperature in the room? Sometimes people think I am cold because I cannot engage in the small talk, its just not interesting to me. Her though, she was on it. Anyway, we met again a few days and everything was all smiles. There are other variables involved, but I can sense this distance with her. This wall, this interest in her in me, but yet some kind of reluctance. I can tell she is interested by her smile, her voice her voicemails. However, I sent her a text the other night asking about something she was wanting to get involved in (recreational, a good thing), and never heard back and her texts sometimes seem pretty short. So do her emails. Maybe since I am cancer I open up a lot more and have no problem sharing how I feel.
Anyway, im not going to chase her. I made the last initiation of contact. Shes gorgeous, motivated, very scheduled, very busy, etc. However, it is rude to not respond to someone after 24 hours, especially after being so warm to a man then just shutting off. So, like I was saying there is more to it but im not going to put her personal stuff out there.
Anyway so we met by chance over coffee, the converation was instantly stimulating even though it was supposed to be for a professional reason, when she walked in and our eyes met my smile was instant and so was my greeting. Such a gorgeous virgo, although I didnt know she was until the end when she asked me when my birthday way, and I quickly responded by asking hers...because I wanted to know her sign! We kept the meeting short, did not want to drag anything out and ruin the short suspense. We agreed to exchange contact information and she gladly gave me her number. 5 days later we went out to dinner (hard for me to pick out the best first dinner spot, but it was good). Japanese steak house (not overdone or too fancy, just a smaller, dim lit venue with a sushi bar which we ate plenty of!).
Our conversations were inquisitive of each other, and invigorating at the same time. Have you ever learned so much about someone in such a brief period of time, without having worthless conversation about the weather, or the temperature in the room? Sometimes people think I am cold because I cannot engage in the small talk, its just not interesting to me. Her though, she was on it. Anyway, we met again a few days and everything was all smiles. There are other variables involved, but I can sense this distance with her. This wall, this interest in her in me, but yet some kind of reluctance. I can tell she is interested by her smile, her voice her voicemails. However, I sent her a text the other night asking about something she was wanting to get involved in (recreational, a good thing), and never heard back and her texts sometimes seem pretty short. So do her emails. Maybe since I am cancer I open up a lot more and have no problem sharing how I feel.
Anyway, im not going to chase her. I made the last initiation of contact. Shes gorgeous, motivated, very scheduled, very busy, etc. However, it is rude to not respond to someone after 24 hours, especially after being so warm to a man then just shutting off. So, like I was saying there is more to it but im not going to put her personal stuff out there.
She was recently divorced, and has sole custody of her daughter who was amazing when I met her. I have never dated a woman with a child, always been turned off by it because of issues with always having to have the father come over every other weekend or some kind of joint custody issue that I dont want to have to deal with. This time was different though. She has sole custody and is an amazing mother from what I can see.
So those are the things this virgo brings around. My last relationship was with a Capricorn and wow what a cold one that was. We hit it off so strong it was like nothing I had ever felt, but after two months boom...the smallest thing would freak her out. Never going to date a Capricorn again. Its like dating a brick. A pretty brick, but definitely a brick that has been in a ice chest. Yeah I get it, Cappys are all warm inside, and she showed that but they can turn on a dime.
So those are the things this virgo brings around. My last relationship was with a Capricorn and wow what a cold one that was. We hit it off so strong it was like nothing I had ever felt, but after two months boom...the smallest thing would freak her out. Never going to date a Capricorn again. Its like dating a brick. A pretty brick, but definitely a brick that has been in a ice chest. Yeah I get it, Cappys are all warm inside, and she showed that but they can turn on a dime.
Posted by harry99Posted by TheCardinalClaw
What are you women all about?
May the force be with you TheCardinalClaw sending you all my Jedi mind power and a few sabers too.
Don't lose your head out there.
otherwise
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lol thank you!
Claw, my Virgal is the same way. When we are together, everything is great. We talk the same way you described. When we're not together, it's like I don't exist. If I didn't contact her, I truly believe I would never hear from her again and we've been friends since December and seriously dating for about three weeks. It's just the way the Virgo woman is at first, but from what I understand, once they are comfortable they open up fully and commit completely.
Cardinal Claw- did you mention something along those lines about dating women with children to her about either having no experience or usually that you don't?If you're not keen on it,your facial or body language may have given it away without meaning to.She must have thought highly of you,to even have brought her child anywhere near you.Sorry,but for the safety of children ,we will test even more.Especially if she has a crazy set of ex-inlaws that haven't taken any of their meds.Maybe she felt you wouldn't be able to roll with the situation.
Your hint about non contact from her now,would be whatever subject she seemed to "quiz" you on.If she had asked you a question then re-worded it and asked you again,she wasn't feeling that answer.She may not have given you any background in the question that she asked you,but it wasn't a good fit response from you.Even if it was said jokingly about stashing the child when we date comment-mama bear claws have been extended and ready to strike.
Or were you over extending plans about about your future together.You sound rather precise in the way you talk,maybe she didn't see your ways as child friendly enough.It doesn't make you a bad person,just not a family fit.My neighbor was a bachelor for a looonnnggg time with white walls,couch and carpet.Now he has a wife and two kids,I've seen him working(*cough*hiding out) over at his friends house.
I mean this may not have been the issue at all.She gave you a fair and honest try,getting to know you and the aura you carry with you over dinner.All heck might have broken loose.Parents don't have a lot of spare time to be pondering.So it could be a) she's really really busy ,b) you went over the top,c) you wanted mothering from her , d)she had some sort of emergency or e)she's thinking and analyzing over everything about what happened between you two.If we've decieded it's a no,we'll shake your hand and thank you for playing along.Hopefully,you'll get a reasonably adult answer soon.
(Gotta LMAO at -"dating a brick" & "in an ice chest")
Your hint about non contact from her now,would be whatever subject she seemed to "quiz" you on.If she had asked you a question then re-worded it and asked you again,she wasn't feeling that answer.She may not have given you any background in the question that she asked you,but it wasn't a good fit response from you.Even if it was said jokingly about stashing the child when we date comment-mama bear claws have been extended and ready to strike.
Or were you over extending plans about about your future together.You sound rather precise in the way you talk,maybe she didn't see your ways as child friendly enough.It doesn't make you a bad person,just not a family fit.My neighbor was a bachelor for a looonnnggg time with white walls,couch and carpet.Now he has a wife and two kids,I've seen him working(*cough*hiding out) over at his friends house.
I mean this may not have been the issue at all.She gave you a fair and honest try,getting to know you and the aura you carry with you over dinner.All heck might have broken loose.Parents don't have a lot of spare time to be pondering.So it could be a) she's really really busy ,b) you went over the top,c) you wanted mothering from her , d)she had some sort of emergency or e)she's thinking and analyzing over everything about what happened between you two.If we've decieded it's a no,we'll shake your hand and thank you for playing along.Hopefully,you'll get a reasonably adult answer soon.
(Gotta LMAO at -"dating a brick" & "in an ice chest")
Well I just went ahead and called her today and everything was fine she was glad I called, guess she was just waiting on me to make the move lol. I must have looked too hard into the virgo sign when approaching this. It is so crazy how close astrological signs are when describing someone. Cancer, such as myself is pretty spot on with a few exceptions. Capricorn I know to be pretty close, and now Virgo. The longest relationship I was ever in was with a Scorpio, and apparently Scorpios and Cancers are high on the match list.
As for the kid thing, now I was very welcoming of her child when I first met her. Her child is great and there was nothing awkward. Its not the child that is the issue for me when nt wanting to date women with kids in the past, its the father of the child. Usually he is not around for a reason and they can often be dead beats, or just really messed up people and I really dont want to share my home that is my nest with some foreign man to me who is a low life and he has to come over every other weekend to pick up a child. You know how cancers are about their homes!
As for the kid thing, now I was very welcoming of her child when I first met her. Her child is great and there was nothing awkward. Its not the child that is the issue for me when nt wanting to date women with kids in the past, its the father of the child. Usually he is not around for a reason and they can often be dead beats, or just really messed up people and I really dont want to share my home that is my nest with some foreign man to me who is a low life and he has to come over every other weekend to pick up a child. You know how cancers are about their homes!
And yes vulcan, the "dating a brick in an ice chest" to describe a capricorn. Capricorns are the coldest most standoffish of all signs I have dated. I get that they are all warm and fuzzy inside, but seriously, if a man has to work so hard just to please her and she just gets away with not giving back until she feels SHE is ready...thats just selfish to me. There is a point of reason we all come to and I feel sorry for SOME capricorns who are so walled up that it prevents them from a great possibility
Posted by TheCardinalClaw
Well I just went ahead and called her today and everything was fine she was glad I called, guess she was just waiting on me to make the move lol. I must have looked too hard into the virgo sign when approaching this. It is so crazy how close astrological signs are when describing someone. Cancer, such as myself is pretty spot on with a few exceptions. Capricorn I know to be pretty close, and now Virgo. The longest relationship I was ever in was with a Scorpio, and apparently Scorpios and Cancers are high on the match list.
As for the kid thing, now I was very welcoming of her child when I first met her. Her child is great and there was nothing awkward. Its not the child that is the issue for me when nt wanting to date women with kids in the past, its the father of the child. Usually he is not around for a reason and they can often be dead beats, or just really messed up people and I really dont want to share my home that is my nest with some foreign man to me who is a low life and he has to come over every other weekend to pick up a child. You know how cancers are about their homes!
Sure,two water signs should be complimentary to each other!As your finding out ,it's not just the sign but the rest of the chart as well.The basics are the same.The degrees and aspects are part of the thumbprint that help to create individuality.
Yes,I can see your side to things.Yes,now this man knows where YOU live,while he could be living in his van parked down the street and having tons of issues.Some people arrange to meet at a neutral location.A Cancer that can think in big pictues,that is appealing to a Virgo!
Posted by TheCardinalClaw
And yes vulcan, the "dating a brick in an ice chest" to describe a capricorn. Capricorns are the coldest most standoffish of all signs I have dated. I get that they are all warm and fuzzy inside, but seriously, if a man has to work so hard just to please her and she just gets away with not giving back until she feels SHE is ready...thats just selfish to me. There is a point of reason we all come to and I feel sorry for SOME capricorns who are so walled up that it prevents them from a great possibility
She was making you sweat!Gotta ya.I'm still pro Cap tho',I like my men stoic.I have access to the gooey inside,but it definitely didn't happen over night.
Posted by xMoonManPosted by VullcanLazz
.She must have thought highly of you,to even have brought her child anywhere near you.Sorry,but for the safety of children ,we will test even more.
I think you need to explain yourself here.
I really do not like what you are implying...seriously. You better have a damn good explanation.click to expand
Chillax Sir.In your first post,the tone came across as if,there was a weird reason why you had an issue with women with children.Then you explained that you don't want crazy exes sliming on in and in a later post I said I understood that.Later,you gave more information and said you met her child.You,she and child were fine with one another.As a mother,my radar is always up and beeping.My cousin married a guy and her older children weren't his.He made it seem like her son should be on punishment ALL the time.Things got worse...(Virgo male/Aqua Gal).Then a friend of mine married a guy and had more children with him,come to find out he was a child molester ,and his whole family knew and one of his cousins finally said to her-"why do you think we never come around the family",Also turned out he had had a child with his first cousin,(Taurus male/Gem gal).He's actually got caught at it.See my concern? Are you okay withwhat I have said? You seem like a very no nonsense person.If she trusted you enough to meet her child,then she thinks highly of you.
Posted by xMoonMan
VulcanLazz
Are you talking to me or the thread creator "TheCardinalClaw" you seem to be referring to both of us in your post.
Your posting is very confusing.
I am not the creator of this thread, simply responding to your irresponsible comment.
Specifically that you are implying all men should be considered guilty of some crime against children until they can prove themsleves innoscent.
This comment, in this thread was uncalled for and your blanket statement is very irrisponsible.
Do you understand what I am saying??
I think what was meant is that ...when it comes to children, most people dont introduce them right away. The same can go for guys...and the safety of their children...you just never know that early on what you are exposing them too.
Thought you were O.P.It raises a red flag when a certain type of man,wants the woman but has trouble with the relationship that she has with her children.These types of abusers try to seperate a woman from those she loves or has a close relationship with for his own gain.That is never a good start.Any vigilent mother is like a mother bear,that was my point.O.P. made his point,about skeezy deadbeat fathers.Him and I got clear on that.
I can take any moral high ground I choose to,psuedo or otherwise.Never said fathers didn't care.Never said men without children didn't care.This is the difference between the Queens English and American English,something got lost in translation!!Have I man bashed all over boards when a single mom is dating???Show me where.Am I anti man???Where have I jumped in to anyone's thread to accuse the man of something just because they are a man?Just trying to shed light on Virgo Gals for those who asked.
I don't think you are sorry for derailing this thread at all.If you were paying attention in any form or fashion ,you would realize that I wasn't making a "blanket statemnt".I was specifically talking to O.P. about O.P.'s interaction with mother and child.Catch me where I said"all men do___".If I implied that wouldn't I have started a thread about it on here???Wouldn't that be may first and only tune I ever played?What else are you going to accuse me of?Did I hit some sort of nerve of yours other than you think I'm a man hater?If you don't like what I have to say,Block my bleep.
I can take any moral high ground I choose to,psuedo or otherwise.Never said fathers didn't care.Never said men without children didn't care.This is the difference between the Queens English and American English,something got lost in translation!!Have I man bashed all over boards when a single mom is dating???Show me where.Am I anti man???Where have I jumped in to anyone's thread to accuse the man of something just because they are a man?Just trying to shed light on Virgo Gals for those who asked.
I don't think you are sorry for derailing this thread at all.If you were paying attention in any form or fashion ,you would realize that I wasn't making a "blanket statemnt".I was specifically talking to O.P. about O.P.'s interaction with mother and child.Catch me where I said"all men do___".If I implied that wouldn't I have started a thread about it on here???Wouldn't that be may first and only tune I ever played?What else are you going to accuse me of?Did I hit some sort of nerve of yours other than you think I'm a man hater?If you don't like what I have to say,Block my bleep.
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