virtuousvirgo83
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what ever happen To unconditional Love!
what ever happen To unconditional Love
Simple??_ Greed and economical advantages in the fucking capitalistic world we are living in??_!
Blame in on the TV shows and —their?? propaganda machines..!
Simple??_ Greed and economical advantages in the fucking capitalistic world we are living in??_!
Blame in on the TV shows and —their?? propaganda machines..!
i guess someone has to find something and sum1 to blame it on. no offense Qbone...
people are whimsical, it happens. ::shrug::
Posted by virtuousvirgo83
why do people put conditions on Love.
why do people expect so much from one person.
You're a Virgo, you should know how much we give and how little we get back.
why cant people just Love just because.
Perhaps they never learned how?
Why is there always an agenda
Most people want to further themselves, self centred and selfish.
geez.. It just bothers me when I hear people say they love people when times are great but when things go down hill just a little bit then the "true Love" dissappears
That isn't real love.
why is it that when some one makes one mistake the love is gone....
Again, not true love.
people should just say hey I am in like with you for the moment until..... Geez!click to expand
lol, agreed.
Posted by sortilege85
Until disney movies gave everyone too many high hopes on a fantasy love. Until reality television shows exploited unconditional love as foolish. Until music stopped from deep feeling devotion to brothers, families and lovers into dellusional child-minded emotions. Until people began to realize that it's much harder to love a person for so long, and thought of the easy way out by allowing minor problems ruine their on-going bond. Until the media inflated and ruined the idea of long lasting romance with stupid comedy movies that say, "it's okay to cheat it's only another persons passion your hurting"
Unconditional love has lost it's meaning as how we lost our ways as an agricultural and more spiritual beings.
Couldn't have said any better...!
Thank you??_
Posted by satori
Cajun: You're a Virgo, you should know how much we give and how little we get back.
But I keep hearing from Virgos that noone gives as much as or can be relied on as much as they can and that is simply not the case.
Well until I witness it, I'll stick by my experiences thank you.
Gender roles destroyed it.
When people stop thinking "men should be like this" and "women should act like that", things'll change.
Also, mass insecurity destroyed it.
Explains why people follow trends and the media can toy with so many minds. When people realise that perfection is cold and fashion has become a mask, and beauty a weapon to rightly mistrust, they will realise that flaws are endearing.
When it's all said and done only the little things matter.
When people stop thinking "men should be like this" and "women should act like that", things'll change.
Also, mass insecurity destroyed it.
Explains why people follow trends and the media can toy with so many minds. When people realise that perfection is cold and fashion has become a mask, and beauty a weapon to rightly mistrust, they will realise that flaws are endearing.
When it's all said and done only the little things matter.
I agree 100% with Kaleidescorp and sortilege 85...
I always tell my fiance that I refuse to let my children watch fairytales...it creates this whimsical idea of what true love is...it creates certain roles for each gender and an unrealistic expectation of perfection...
Unfortunately loving someone unconditionally has a risk factor associated...which inevitably deters most people from ever doing it...the sad part is, that if more people took that leap of faith they would be rewarded with this insane feeling of relief...a huge load would be lifted...
I can say that I have always loved with conditions and until recently when I began loving without conditions that it all became so much simpler...the fear still tugs and my defensiveness and my need to be in control screams inside...but I am fighting it...
My fears stem from my upbringing where my father reigned supreme and my mother lost herself in his world...yet I was raised to be independent and strong...basically the epitomy of an oxymoron...but slowly I am realizing that I decide what my future will be...I can either be a victim of my past or enjoy the present which will create my future...
So bottom line...loving unconditionally is hard initially...but ultimately rewarding and freeing...
I always tell my fiance that I refuse to let my children watch fairytales...it creates this whimsical idea of what true love is...it creates certain roles for each gender and an unrealistic expectation of perfection...
Unfortunately loving someone unconditionally has a risk factor associated...which inevitably deters most people from ever doing it...the sad part is, that if more people took that leap of faith they would be rewarded with this insane feeling of relief...a huge load would be lifted...
I can say that I have always loved with conditions and until recently when I began loving without conditions that it all became so much simpler...the fear still tugs and my defensiveness and my need to be in control screams inside...but I am fighting it...
My fears stem from my upbringing where my father reigned supreme and my mother lost herself in his world...yet I was raised to be independent and strong...basically the epitomy of an oxymoron...but slowly I am realizing that I decide what my future will be...I can either be a victim of my past or enjoy the present which will create my future...
So bottom line...loving unconditionally is hard initially...but ultimately rewarding and freeing...
Point taken and point well made ArianPride....
There IS such thing as unconditional love, but people confuse this with their "ideal" man or woman.
its not naive to expect uncoditional Love.. I know I am a unconditional lover. I am sure there are a few left.. .. thats the issue people expect you to lower expectations of unconditional love...... if i can do it so can any one else I dont care where human beings are in developement. its out there and its not a fairy tale. thats a lie and I will not accept that for vv83.. you can expect to have conditions on your love.. annd be miserble but not me..
Posted by Kaleidescorp
"people expect you to lower expectations of unconditional love"
people expect = condition
expectations of unconditional love = condition
Any expectation that is placed on love is a condition. Therefore to say you have expectations of unconditional love is to say that you are placing a condition on unconditional love, so that it cancels out the very idea of unconditional love.
Unconditional love is just that, it is unconditional. There are no expecations associated with it. You love simply because.... You expect nothing in return, because if you do, it becomes conditional. Once you expect unconditional love, you are in essence saying "This is my condition for this love, because this is what I expect."
Unconditional love means that your love is given without expectation, without want, without desire, without condition, without need. It is a love that is pure in nature and untarnished by human ego. You love simply because you are love.
Well said. The only ones closest to this are (some)parents.
Love given freely is a difficult task. Everytime we are hurt, we put up a wall (I've got hundreds :S). The only way I can possibly give true unconditional love is if the condition of stability/security is satisfied, so I suppose it is not true unconditional love.
I love based on what is in my heart. Thats what I believe. :-)
"people can't even love and respect themselves let alone be capable of unconditional love towards someone else...."
^ that statement is true for some... I guess , I sometimes have to remember I have not always been where I am. I am comfortable with my flaws and faults. I have learned from them and now I can appreciate people and life for what it offers....... :-)
^ that statement is true for some... I guess , I sometimes have to remember I have not always been where I am. I am comfortable with my flaws and faults. I have learned from them and now I can appreciate people and life for what it offers....... :-)
considering how many virgos i've watched get used and left by people they loved unconditionally, i think a few conditions can be a good thing.
Posted by wgamador
I used to think that when people say...."Ill always love you." , that it really meant something ... but i was so wrong.
Anyhow....I believe that unconditional love does exist but like everything else, it has an expiration date.
I had someone Love me regardless of how poor and undeducated my family was, she loved me even if i lived in the projects, she loved me even if i had not finished high school and didnt really have a plan for my future. She loved me despite her father making us break-up, she loved me despite me not having a car or the comforts other had that she could have been with.
But eventually Love is not enough when someone wants and deserves more. It took me some time to accept that Love is not enough especially early in life.
Eventually every woman is going to want security and God knows I wasnt on that path back then. So she cheated to get out of the relationship, at least thats my theory.
So i wasted her unconditional love and she left. Never came back.
I also loved her unconditionally and unfortunately for me that emotion stayed with me and even today, once in a while I fight it....she meant so much to me. More than the world could ever offer me.....and for some time I felt like such an idiot for having to fight my feelings of Love for someone who had been long gone. But then I found out that I have Venus in Scorpio and Scorpio Rising......and its normal to expect Love to be forever.
Today, I believe when a woman tells me she loves me.....but unless she has Venus in Scorpio, I dont expect her Love last forever. Its your venus I have scorpio rising I don't have that problem. But I have virgo venus which is in the fall for venus meaning love does not matter to much to me and thats true. To me if it happens great if it doesn't happen oh well. Be thinkful you don't have venus in pisces read about that.
its your scorpio venus dude^^^ I have scorpio rising and I don't feel like that but I do have virgo venus which it is in the fall for venuses meaning I don't care if I find love or not. Which is true for me if I find love great if I don't oh well, but be happy you don't have pisces venus they live for love and if there not in one its like there dying.
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why do people expect so much from one person.
why cant people just Love just because.
Why is there always an agenda
geez.. It just bothers me when I hear people say they love people when times are great but when things go down hill just a little bit then the "true Love" dissappears
why is it that when some one makes one mistake the love is gone....
sick of all this water down Love......
people should just say hey I am in like with you for the moment until..... Geez!
whew! that felt good