Women who want Mind Readers

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by Cajunspirit on Tuesday, November 24, 2009 and has 55 replies.
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I must say, this has to be the most irritating, aggravating and uttermost annoying thing I have had to deal with in life.
If you as a woman have a problem and expect that the men in your life are supposed to "know", "be aware", "sense it" or have the "common sense" to figure it out, let me start by saying DO NOT DATE A VIRGO.
Though honestly, I can only speak for myself I think most men would agree.
Personally, I am a naive person, very naive. People can fool me easily and it has happened on numerous occasions. This just makes things more difficult for me.
If you tell me you want to break up, guess what!
I'm going to believe you! smile
If you tell me you have a problem with something yet in the same breath say, "Well if it makes you happy, do it", then you are sending mixed signals and I will think it's not really much of a problem at all.
SUBTLE HINTS do NOT work!
CLEVER HINTS do NOT work!
OBVIOUS HINTS do NOT work!
Grow a freaking spine and tell me what's going on!!!
If you go to a doctor, would you not tell them what's wrong?
If you go to a psychologist, would you not tell them what is wrong?
If you get pulled over by a police office, won't he ask you if you knew what you did wrong?
Why for the sake of the world, can some women want a mind reader?
That's just STUPID!
If most men could read your mind, he'd play you like a fiddle, get what he wants and move unto the next prospect.
He would not have to "waste time" getting to know you, try to figure you out and learn your ins and outs.
When I say "waste time" I mean the traditional dating process.
My bottom line is this... If you are a woman who has a problem with something and keep it to yourself or say that you don't, YOU are a DAMN FOOL. Irresponsible, selfish, ignorant and immature. Being a mature adult means you can effectively communicate your dislike for something and choosing not to, will only hurt you and everyone around you as a result.
Immature women will make you pull your dayum hair out....
My oh my oh my, sorry to see this is bothering you so much Cajun, yes, woman you care about, they can drive you crazy and visa versa. I know, believe me I know.
HUGSSSSSSSS
Damn straight! You know some men are just like this too. Piss off to all of them!
Posted by seavixen
Sometimes I feel that I get my feelings hurt too easily so I debate with myself first to make sure I'm valid in thinking they've hurt me before I address it with the person.
A lot of women in general don't. Sometimes women think that the man "should automatically just know" that they've hurt our feelings and that just isn't the case.
I learned from working in the medical field that my common sense is not someone elses.

If you can't communicate your needs then how can you expect to have your needs met?
There are so many different ways to communicate: verbally, body language etc... but hell, telling someone is the easiest



Jeez moved on already. There's plenty of pussy out there. Big Grin

Be a true Virgo out there and play with them a little. Tongue
unless you want brain farts for the rest of your life you will stay clear away from women that expect you to mind read...
CAJUNSPIRIT, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
Posted by sortilege85
It isn't so bad being lonely cajun. Just look at me man. I'm doing fine smile


I know man, I know.
Don't let it irritate you, if you want to a relationship or not if it is an option.


How can it NOT irritate me? And every other man that has had to deal with it?
It is something you don't need to worry or care for anymore if you so feel like it.
Posted by Beergo85
Yes, that right(Pleya). Big Grin


LMFAO
Booya Winking
Posted by VirgoM20
CAJUNSPIRIT, I AGREE WITH YOU 100%
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Amen brother, Amen.
Posted by DyTryin

Cajun,
It works both ways: Lots of men don't understand why women can't think or feel like men; and, lots of women don't understand why men can't think or feel like women.


This has nothing to do with that.
This has to do with being a responsible adult who can account for his or her own problems and how they go about resolving it.
You can not tell me you have never run into this kind of non sense before!
I agree with what you're saying completely, but I believe that doesn't quite fit the context I presented here.
Posted by seavixen
It's like when something is obviously bothering us and when you ask us whats wrong, we say "I'm fine"...but we are not fine. When a woman says "I'm fine" and she is acting differently than she would normally- all isn't right and she probably needs you to be persistant to get her to talk about it.


Sigh... can you at least perceive how difficult this is for a man to interpret?
The lack of logic.

I used to expect my man to know how I felt in past relationships, but after being in a few relationships and seeing what works...ie: verbal communication, and verbal communication ONLY...


Bingo!
I think we understand after awhile and it's not done to be mean...we just don't understand that you really don't work that way and that if something is wrong the only way you'll be able to fix the problem is if you hear it, direct and to the point...
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Well that is just horribly depressing...
I can honestly say that I've never played that game before. To be honest, it was actually done to me by my Aquarius ex lol. He would expect me to know when I hurt his feelings, or when I've pissed him off, etc. Being a Cancer I can pick up on "vibes" and feelings yes, but would it hurt to open your damn mouth and talk to me instead of acting like a child? I can see why it irritates you and I'm in no way just agreeing with you just to agree, that is how I honestly feel. If I'm upset and I DON'T say anything about it, it's not because I want you to read my mind and know I'm upset..it's because I want to be left the hell alone until I feel like talking! Other wise, I have no problem telling you what is wrong with me. Also being a Cancer, naturally I don't expect people to know how I feel because I'm so damn moody.

Agrees Cajun spirit. One of my male friends has this saying, "A closed mouth won't get fed." In short, when dealing with men, if you WANT something then ask for it; otherwise, you probably won't get it! I was guilty of doing this too when I was younger...not anymore. I ask for what I want & need! If I don't get it - I go elsewhere.
i agree as well. women are so fucking annoying sometimes.
but you know, guys do this too sometimes. or rather they avoid talking about something just because they don't want to tell the truth. people in general need to stop being such pussies and say what they mean.
I hear ya Cajun. Sure it goes both ways, but I find that more women are guilty of not being direct, assuming a guy should just now, saying one thing one minute and doing something different the next, then complain that their guy is the one who is confusing. Probably because some of these women are my friends and they vent to me their issues and I find I have to repeat myself a lot. I dont get where the common sense approach in usual dealings seems to fall apart and mean nothing when it comes to interacting with guys accept that I'm sure it has a lot to do with safeguarding their own hearts and feelings.
In their defense, it's a lot easier to see reason about this stuff when you aren't in the middle of it and on the flip... it's a lot easier to make stupid decisions when your heart is on the line because you end up second guessing yourself quite a bit. That's my female opinion. It's no excuse, but one answer as to why our sex is like this... I'm not even saying its a good answer.
I will admit... there is a lot that I wonder about with the virgo I'm getting to know, and I havent yet mustered the courage to have a straight talk with him about these things. I waffle on how I feel about a lot of things and I dont feel right having such an important convo until I really know what I want, BUT I certainly dont complain about what I havent bothered to directly figure out about what he wants. I certainly dont let the fun we have and the connection we have suffer because of what I havent bothered to communicate or put on the table. I try to be fair. I do not assume anything. I've said it before and I'll say it again, I'm a 'say what you mean and mean what you say' kind of person. Face value perhaps, but for me... probably even a little less than face value as I take anything said to me by a guy with quite a bit of skepticism. Many of them have said too much to me and backed up very little of it. But I digress...
Their are just as many immature gals out there as women will complain there are guys. And I think it's fair to assume that all of us, immature or adult, will slip and do something like this kind of behavior at one point or another. I wish people came with warning signs as much as I'm sure you do. Tongue But they dont... for every one lovely and worthy specimen... there will be ten who fall short at varying degrees.

Agreed Trifles! I've surveyed all my guy friends about the "disappearing act / not calling.They all said they didn't want to look like the "bad guy" plus if they ever were lonely (I.e.desperate) they could get these women back by making up some sort of b.s. story. They basically didn't want to tell the women they weren't feeling them, so they could always have the potential fall back. *smh*
Posted by USCTaurusGal

Agreed Trifles! I've surveyed all my guy friends about the "disappearing act / not calling.They all said they didn't want to look like the "bad guy" plus if they ever were lonely (I.e.desperate) they could get these women back by making up some sort of b.s. story. They basically didn't want to tell the women they weren't feeling them, so they could always have the potential fall back. *smh*


There are some things that call for communication and clarification, but this disappearing act, non-responsiveness... basic failure in comms points to disinterest and is clear enough communication to me. Anyone would try to make it happen if they really wanted it to happen... men and women. So I just DONT understand why women have to wonder so much when a guy is that distant. And a few guys have done that to me... 'disappeared' because they werent that interested... THEN tried to come back at me months later all flirty and shit. HA! Makes me laugh. Sorry! No love Winking Any man that comes off confused about what he wants isn't man enough for me.

I hear ya Creepypants , but you would be surprised how many women will go back over and over again to "lukewarm" men! I want him hot for me, none of this bs hot & cold. Recent example - met this guy. He asked me out to dinner. Called me once and said he would connect to set a date & time. I didn't hear from him for 2 weeks. He left me a msg saying he lost his phone, but refound it. He could be telling the truth, but I deleted his msg & #. I have no time for games. Period.
im taking notes atm
Posted by DyTryin

There are women who not only accept that a man is different - they revel in it. Uh, they're called ARIES, LEO, and SAGITTARIUS!


WOW! That's the first time I've ever heard this applied to signs and I have to say I think you could be right. I have a lot of Sags and Leos in my life (not so much Aries so can't speak for them) and now that I think of it, most of them DO feel that way and don't have many problems understanding and accepting that a man is different. Sometimes, I actually think that we behave more like men when in relationships than the men do. I never expect a man to read my mind. WTF? If he can read my mind, we are definitely in trouble! I sure wouldn't want him knowing every time that I fantasized about the hot guy from the gym or the sexy man I saw in the store! That would be a disaster waiting to happen. Unfortunately, I think Cajun's matter of subject here is a Sagi girl though. Hmmm... maybe not so insightful then?
"but you would be surprised how many women will go back over and over again to "lukewarm" men!"
it's lack of self confidence, self-control, self reliance and/or a better prospect. all in all, a lack of self.
Posted by sortilege85
Posted by Beergo85
There's plenty of pussy out there. Big Grin

*High five sortilege85*


Beergo, You love the PUSSY like me????. I totally love the pussy. I play with pussy, I feed the pussy, I give it something to play with when my hands are tired and I even pat the top of its head because it purrs more if you give it a good rub??_
Sometimes I even give it some milk because it grows thirsty on me.
*High five???s back*

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Now where talking. Big Grin
*Sigh*
You are like the bro i never had. Tongue
We got the same Sun and mars too. Big Grin
*Very Niceee*
...from all the pussy lovin

LMAO! Hey they just know what they like - p*ssy! LOL
@CP yeah, lack of self esteem/worth, etc is tough. But damn! It's so sad to see people so desperate!
Lmao jason u a fool lmao owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
Posted by sortilege85
Posted by Beergo85
There's plenty of pussy out there. Big Grin

*High five sortilege85*


Beergo, You love the PUSSY like me????. I totally love the pussy. I play with pussy, I feed the pussy, I give it something to play with when my hands are tired and I even pat the top of its head because it purrs more if you give it a good rub??_
Sometimes I even give it some milk because it grows thirsty on me.
*High five???s back*

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!!!
*bows before the Master*

i have a virgo sun and mars in virgo 2 yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy i think lmfao
I don't know if it's so much of a mind reader, rather than having that one person that can look at you and sense that something is wrong. Nobody likes to explain themselves, and sometimes it is so much more beneficial to just be hugged and snuggle with that someone, and forget about your worries. Then there are times where you can have deep meaningful conversations. The point being, everybody has their time.
That doesn't make them stupid or immature, or any of the things you said. I know that when I say "whatever makes you happy" that translates to me saying "I really don't give a shit". It's probably the worse thing to come out of my mouth.
As far as virgo's not being sensative, knowing, being aware, etc..... well, the virgo I'm interacting with is all of those. He's very intuned to me, and he senses when there is something wrong with me. He knows things that I like. He's becoming aware of what I stand for.....
Honestly, if you can't be more sensative towards a female, or give in to the one that you really care for, aren't you hurting yourself and hurting others too??? Communication works both ways. If you can't communicate what your frustrations are, then you're with the wrong person. Nobody likes to explain themselves, but nobody likes having to clam shit up inside too. So, where is the middle ground???
If you view getting to know someone as a waste of time, then why are you interested in getting to know a female in the first place??? We are not simple beings. If we could have mind readers, our life would be a lot more simpler, believe me!!!
Posted by Mars.In.Aries

Honestly, if you can't be more sensative towards a female, or give in to the one that you really care for, aren't you hurting yourself and hurting others too??? Communication works both ways. If you can't communicate what your frustrations are, then you're with the wrong person. Nobody likes to explain themselves, but nobody likes having to clam shit up inside too. So, where is the middle ground???


I love explaining myself. It's probably what I am best at.
I always communicate my frustrations, always.
If you view getting to know someone as a waste of time, then why are you interested in getting to know a female in the first place??? We are not simple beings. If we could have mind readers, our life would be a lot more simpler, believe me!!!
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Only honest men would make life simpler. Dishonest men will run you into the ground.
Last I checked, dishonest outweighed the honest.
Posted by USCTaurusGal

LMAO! Hey they just know what they like - p*ssy! LOL
@CP yeah, lack of self esteem/worth, etc is tough. But damn! It's so sad to see people so desperate!


Right?! Surely they must know they are desperate! I'm convinced they dont and think they are just 'following their heart' because if someone said to me... 'hey CP... you're acting desperate' holy shit, id be on a different track real fast.

I love explaining myself. It's probably what I am best at.
I always communicate my frustrations, always.


Then maybe you shouldn't do it so often. I think it's great to get straight to the point, but you've gotta sympathize that not everyone appreciates this stance, and actually take it offensively. Perhaps being more sensitive and in tuned with that might not get you so frustrated.

Only honest men would make life simpler. Dishonest men will run you into the ground.
Last I checked, dishonest outweighed the honest.
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I completely disagree!!!! Honesty is complex. It comes in many different forms. Being honest doesn't mean saying things at the moment and speaking your truth. Living an honest life is not as simple as you make it out to be..... it actually causes a lot of fractions in your life, and there is the tendancy to lose close friends. Being honest is having honest intentions. That is the only way you can judge a man, and sometimes those intentions don't come clear until that moment of clarity shines, and you are able to see it.
Dishonesty does not out weigh honesty. That is a pessamistic way of viewing it. People will always be dishonest. It's those moments of anguish that that dishonesty has caused that you make them into your honest moments. It really is in all how you view it..... I've had too many dishonest people in my life, but I would be dishonest to remain angry at those people.
Posted by Mars.In.Aries

Then maybe you shouldn't do it so often. I think it's great to get straight to the point, but you've gotta sympathize that not everyone appreciates this stance, and actually take it offensively. Perhaps being more sensitive and in tuned with that might not get you so frustrated.


Haha, well I'll be damned. An Aries woman is advising me not to be brutally honest and straightforward.
I appreciate your concern honey, but I refuse to be anything else.

I completely disagree!!!! Honesty is complex. It comes in many different forms. Being honest doesn't mean saying things at the moment and speaking your truth. Living an honest life is not as simple as you make it out to be..... it actually causes a lot of fractions in your life, and there is the tendancy to lose close friends. Being honest is having honest intentions. That is the only way you can judge a man, and sometimes those intentions don't come clear until that moment of clarity shines, and you are able to see it.
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Well few people like me and I don't really have more than 2 friends Big Grin
Here are some lyrics that are very, very powerful..... You might find some solace in them. After all, it was written by a man.
Could've sworn I heard you say amen this morning, showing some kind of sign that you believe
Did it fall from your tongue without warning or just another trick to fall from your sleeve
Did I hear you say that you believe in angels? I guess I bring the devil out in you
But we can both remove our halos 'cause even an angel needs love too
Even angels need love too
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
Some things never change; Some things never stay the same
But you're so innocent, I'll take all the blame
How I hate to remember for that means the day is past
Sometimes I wonder if I know her or if I really need to ask
Or if I really need to ask
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
Woman...
Half-man walks with no shadow of life he utters his distaste
No apology is expected
Love carved sorry in his face
Love carved sorry in his face
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
The woman in you is the worry, the worry in me
The woman in you, in you, is the worry in me
Woman...

Haha, well I'll be damned. An Aries woman is advising me not to be brutally honest and straightforward.


The irony, I know. And I agree with you 100% . But I learned the hard way. The bottom line is, what is the intent with your honesty? You can't be berating someone, giving them a tongue lashing. That's not fair. Sometimes understanding someone's sensitivity and relaying your honesty in a tactful manner will actually get your point across alot more effectively rather than stirring the dust for them.
I appreciate your concern honey, but I refuse to be anything else.


And they say that Aries women are stubborn and hard headed Winking

Well few people like me and I don't really have more than 2 friends Big Grin
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Hmmm.... I'm sensing a white lie here. If that is truly the case, then there is obviously something that you are hiding from people, because it's refraining from you being social. I used to be like this, because of my intense anger. I never knew when I would go off, or what/who would set me off, so I isolated myself.
Posted by sortilege85
Posted by CreepyPants
...from all the pussy lovin


Who doesn't love to pound meat?
Only a real man hahaha... i'm just kidding ya' buddy
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aye... you crack me up.
I'm all about a real man smile you know... the 'package' deal Winking
Posted by Mars.In.Aries

The irony, I know. And I agree with you 100% . But I learned the hard way. The bottom line is, what is the intent with your honesty? You can't be berating someone, giving them a tongue lashing. That's not fair. Sometimes understanding someone's sensitivity and relaying your honesty in a tactful manner will actually get your point across alot more effectively rather than stirring the dust for them.


Well I want to learn the hard way to smile
I don't go around berating people, I just have no issues expressing my thoughts openly.
I have lots of tact.

Hmmm.... I'm sensing a white lie here. If that is truly the case, then there is obviously something that you are hiding from people, because it's refraining from you being social. I used to be like this, because of my intense anger. I never knew when I would go off, or what/who would set me off, so I isolated myself.

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Nooo, I'm just not very keen on being sociable, I think it is my Capricorn Ascendant.
I have loads of acquaintances but two true friends.

NAH FEDEX IS BETTER LMAFO OWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
Posted by sortilege85

In my case, I'm the U.P.S. truck that delievers Package to those who are in search of what is wanted and needed. Winking


oh nos... a service man in uniform... and he's got a package ...meeeow LOL! Tongue
Posted by Sekhmet

Whew! Rant off


LOL
You say that as though you're The Human Torch [Fantastic Four : Fire Guy]!
FLAME ON!!!
Posted by Shaka_laka_boomboom
I dont get the point of this thread.
Are all women supposed to adapt to your requirements of what you think women should act like?.


The point is to highlight the level of immaturity women exhibit when they expect men to read their minds.
That is just thoroughly unrealistic and juvenile.
I am bringing this old thread up from 2009 because it depicts how men think differently than women most of the time!
Posted by USCTaurusGal

I hear ya Creepypants , but you would be surprised how many women will go back over and over again to "lukewarm" men! I want him hot for me, none of this bs hot & cold. Recent example - met this guy. He asked me out to dinner. Called me once and said he would connect to set a date & time. I didn't hear from him for 2 weeks. He left me a msg saying he lost his phone, but refound it. He could be telling the truth, but I deleted his msg & #. I have no time for games. Period.


^^This (sorry its so old USC) is the epitome of how a woman has to think ^^
I'm not sure what he meant by mind reader .. it's to women, making the implication that women should understand how to talk to her man because he cannot read her mind.
Posted by Cajunspirit
I just make an effort to plant the "Seed of Thought" that we could be together, something I nurture with infrequent conversation and the occasional "hang out". So that if I do become single, I would not have to start fresh.


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Is he talking about something like that?
Posted by BelovedAssata
yes mind-reading is a bit much but some intuitiveness (aka observational skills ) and some sentimentality can give u an edge over the competition. i thought virgo 's love learning new skills. plus you out of most men are capable of this.


I can get it work with some signs, not all...
Some people' I just CAN'T understand. C'est la vie.
This has nothing to do with the topic,
but OP, you are gorgeous. That is all!
Posted by Natalya
This has nothing to do with the topic,
but OP, you are gorgeous. That is all!


Aawww, and he knows it too...lol
*uncontrollobale blushing*
.... smile
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