what is up with cap/aqua cusps? why so nasty?

I know 3 cap/aqua cusps and these people are critical and negative in the most unbearable way. is there something about this cusp that brings out the worst aspects of both signs? anyone else have experience with this cusp?

oh and don't get me wrong- these people are all extremely caring underneath it all, i love them despite the bad attitudes b/c i can see they are good people beneath it who act defensive out of self-protection but seriously this is one cusp that, if unhealthy, is one of the worst and most difficult to deal with on a daily basis. anyone else have similar experience?

yes sarcastic, but almost brutal at times. and definitely silly during moments when they relax but they seem to turn severely sour so fast.

maybe the ones i've known have just been the more unhealthy kind?

Well, i'm married to one........i don't see him as critical and negative.....maybe insecure at times but not critical or negative, anymore than anyone else. I am also a cusper though taurus/gem, so maybe that plays into it. When you say critical, do you mean critical of you. As for negative, i have alot of capricorn friends that tend to lean to the doom and gloom side of things....love them all, but i do tend to see negativity from them....they tend to be worriers.

Posted by M
Strange, the two I know despite having that "edge", are silly first and foremost. Naturally sarcastic too.

M you are like a cusp magnet😉

critical of everything, of things that i wouldn't even give a second thought to criticize; they quickly find the negative and the flaws in any and every situation, they never see something in a positive light unless they have assessed it first for any and all flaws and cracks. very gloom and doom, will turn a "molehill into a mountain." definitely worriers, blow things out of proportion. insecure and defensive.

Posted by IsabelScorpia
critical of everything, of things that i wouldn't even give a second thought to criticize; they quickly find the negative and the flaws in any and every situation, they never see something in a positive light unless they have assessed it first for any and all flaws and cracks. very gloom and doom, will turn a "molehill into a mountain." definitely worriers, blow things out of proportion. insecure and defensive.

Wow, see now my hubby is nothing like that, but i have a couple cappy female friends that fit the bill......sometimes its like they suck the energy out of me......but i do love them😉 i am surrounded by aquas and cappies...my husband is the only cusper though.

"it's like they suck the energy out of me"

exactly.

what day was your husband born on? and how old is he if you don't mind my asking?

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Posted by M
Strange, the two I know despite having that "edge", are silly first and foremost. Naturally sarcastic too.

M you are like a cusp magnet😉

True I hardly know anyone who isn't a cusp :p

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Posted by IsabelScorpia
"it's like they suck the energy out of me"

exactly.

what day was your husband born on? and how old is he if you don't mind my asking?

He was born on the 20th........so sun in aqua, his moon & mercury are capricorn, leo rising, but he has quite a bit of aqua in the rest of his chart and this is wild, but from jupiter through pluto we have the same signs in the planets. He is 45😉 So weird that all 3 of the cuspers have the same affect on you.....maybe it has something to do with age? You know, like they need to grow into their cusp🙂 I know being a cusper myself it is not easy. I do think that it sounds like they are predominantly cappy though.......although i love cappies, as i said they can be worriers, and quite full of doom and gloom at times.

taurusgem: mine is jan 21 and has a lot of aqua influence in his chart as well. i agree, the cap influence seems to affect his behavior more than the aqua, in fact i just think of him as a cap now. i thought the same thing: maybe it has to do with age, i just realized that all three cuspers also have a fire moon so perhaps this has something to do with it?

splitnconfused:"What makes it so difficult to live with them is the fact that they don't don't seem to realize that in the process they also torture the people they care most for"

yes. it strikes me as odd that he just expects people to put up with this as if it's normal. i have told him that i have never dealt with someone like him and he thought it over and has changed his behavior, so things are going better. i don't want him to change who he but i think that he could definitely learn to change his attitude and get some perspective on how his negative outlook affects others and also his own life.

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yes. it strikes me as odd that he just expects people to put up with this as if it's normal. i have told him that i have never dealt with someone like him and he thought it over and has changed his behavior, so things are going better. i don't want him to change who he but i think that he could definitely learn to change his attitude and get some perspective on how his negative outlook affects others and also his own life.

Isabelscorpia, I've also noticed something about them that never fails to bewilder me, it's how they can suddenly switch their behavior from happy and pleasant to suddenly pissed off and aggressive while you're there wondering WTH just happened...It's almost as if the mere thought of being happy is completely foreign to them and makes them feel uncomfortable. They seem to lack emotional intelligence. This cusp is a strange combination of Cappy's negativity and aqua's bluntness..

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i'm close to an aqua that lacks the emotional intelligence...its hard to watch

splitandconfused:
yes, the changes in emotion are quick, esp with the ones that have a fire moon like my cap/aquacusp sag moon boyfriend: he is very emotional, almost to a point of instability; his reactions are unpredictable.

lack of emotional intelligence is exactly the way I would put it. it is just as you said a mixture of cap negativity and aqua bluntness and i would also say it's a mix of the cap's inability to understand others on an emotional level and the aqua's detached manner that makes this cusp so insensitive. the unhealthy and/or unevolved types of this cusp have a lot to learn about how to deal with and treat people.

chance11: what is your moon sign?
also, i think you made some good points- i am a friendly water sign and from the moment we met i treated him with the same respect and kindness and genuine interest i give to everyone i meet, but he was insecure and lacking in social grace from the start and even when he was flirting with me and asking me out it was clear he had no clue how to deal with women. i think a lot of the negativity in his case comes from insecurities: he has made several comments regarding the fact that he thinks i'm too good for him and he "knows" i'm going to leave him and has made me promise i won't do that and confesses how much he loves me and doesn't believe that i love him- it's like you can never win with him, no matter what good happens he will find a way to make things negative again. it's not just me who notices this, all of his friends say the same thing about how insensitive, critical and out right rude he can be and told me they were even confused about how i could put up with him (sometimes i'm confused about that too). thing is, as you said, there is so much potential here and i get glimpses of brilliance every now and then and moments where we truly harmonize but then he takes it all away and returns to the negative unevolved version.
how can i help him? i am naturally positive thinking so when he is being fatalistic it's easy for me to present a different perspective and when he is being emotional i become very rational instinctively and help him through his emotions but i would like to know what else i can do. sometimes i cant help becoming offended and i think i'm entitled to it but he doesn't understand how he affects me.

WOAH...alot of capaqua complaints huh. Well,im capaqua....19 jan, and I will admit, I can be critical. It's not just with others, but it's the way I am with myself as well. My family is always teasing me about how hard I am to please...which is true, but it's not cz im trying to be critical, it's just really hard to connect in the first place. And my moods do change quite fast...my aqua bf enjoys teasing me about my constant change of moods. In a single conversation, I can go from being really happy,to being blue.I am insecure I'll tell you that, yet I also understand that one wouldn't be who they are, without one's faults and so on. Im pisces moon though...I can be very sensitive towards someone's feelings, or I just won't care. It's always one or the other. I get strong reactions from people, it's either they really like me, or truly despise me. I guess it's because my energy is very heavy...or overpowering for most people. BUT guys this hate has gots ta stop!!lol

Posted by AliCar15
I always looked for something to be wrong, rather than accepting that things were right. BUT, now that we've been together so long and are so open and solid, these negative thoughts? All but gone. And when they do pop into my head? I can look at them logically, realize I'm being a fool, erase them and get back to an even keel.

During my happiest moments, I'm immediately engulfed by this feeling of guilt...like I'm doing something wrong. I'll be with friend bonding during a long conversation,which makes me happy...but there is a point when I feel I have to distance myself, or I will end up being disappointed :-/

I'm Jan 20th and I'm adorable so I don't know what the hell any of this means LOL

It's all about evolved versus unevolved, I'm not saying I'm evolved but I know that this sign has to transmute a lot of that negative energy on his/her own terms, our depression can sometimes be close to terminal because it can literally be back to back 7 plus 7 or more years of mental emotional self loathing and torment before it transmutes into wisdom and deep love for self and for others, how some cuspers behave well it's not personal, stay out of the persons way, be supportive as much as you can and get on with your happy life. Cap/Aqua doesn't want company with his or her misery, we truly do like to be left alone but we also love the ones deeply that stick it out and support us.

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Posted by IsabelScorpia
"it's like they suck the energy out of me"

exactly.

what day was your husband born on? and how old is he if you don't mind my asking?

He was born on the 20th........so sun in aqua, his moon & mercury are capricorn, leo rising, but he has quite a bit of aqua in the rest of his chart and this is wild, but from jupiter through pluto we have the same signs in the planets. He is 45😉 So weird that all 3 of the cuspers have the same affect on you.....maybe it has something to do with age? You know, like they need to grow into their cusp🙂 I know being a cusper myself it is not easy. I do think that it sounds like they are predominantly cappy though.......although i love cappies, as i said they can be worriers, and quite full of doom and gloom at times.

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Odd your hubby and i have some of the same placements....I've never met anyone with the same placements as mine...Interesting

im just out of a relationship with a capricorn/aquarius cups man, I had the issue of him not being able to let go of situations nor sort them out. I didn't find him nasty but i did find he told lies but in his mind he didn't he thought the not telling you all the facts but just some of them wasn't lieing quite often would leave out facts. Also found him very very caring very materialistic excellent lover but extremely emotional and unlikely to stand on his own feet. Usually depended on a woman somewhere to lean on to sort out his stuff.

I'm not like that. I see the positive and let go of the negative.

Due to older age maybe? aries rising. sag moon, aqua merc, vip,scorp mars.. i figure I have enough fire to melt the cold and enough water to be sappy..LOL