I honestly respect your judgement everevolvingepithet but we all have stressed moments and I believe that many times the way we behave during those moments shows who we really are; I just lost my patience to deal with that person and I am not going to fake it, that's all.
PS: I meant to say hello to Loveorlust on my previous post but copy/pasted topgunphantom twice.
Hi again cunninglinguist! Hello topgunphantom and topgunphantom, nice to "meet" you as well, thanks for sharing your thoughts. I don't know her moon sign; she clearly isn't the easiest Libra to read i gues and anyone on this topic may be right; just yesterday she sent me a text message out of the blue asking me how I was from an injury I had told her about last time we talked almost 2 weeks ago, I answered back and asked how she was doing herself and she told me she was completely drowned in her work schedule and going insane because of it but had to deal with it because it will be like this for a couple of weeks more, I replied, she replied again and said she was going to sleep and sent goodnight kisses, I wished her a goodnight and sent kisses as well (we don't exchange messages in English, btw)... So that's it, at this point I'm am only waiting to see what happens and I am just going to play it cool like almost everyone suggested.
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Now... as for rockyroadicecream... I am not going to pretend you still amuse me; I was once amused, then I was just perplexed and now I just feel sorry for you and your answer which was basically "I am am embarrassing myself?! No, you are! I Have issues?! No, you have! I am stalking? No, you are!", all of this while lying and distorting everything along the way trying to grasp for some reasoning, presenting sorry excuses for obnoxious behavior and using every possible cliche in the book...
You think I was trying to growl at you? I was actually trying to be as nice and polite to you as possible despite your behavior and only because we never know if the person writing on the other side is just having a bad day, is facing problems in life or needs help of some sort and you didn't seemed balanced at all. You think I am on a pedestal talking to you but you are wrong because not me nor anyone else who wrote on this topic and whose opinions I value need a pedestal to talk down to people who behave like you.
I am sorry if a Libra girl did anything wrong to you or if you are in a bad place now or always were but, like I said, I am not amused any more by you and I actually have zero respect for people who behave like you've been doing so I'm just going to ignore you from now on. Have a good life...
Hey, cunninglinguist, maybe so, not in this topic though e guess, here we only have one person who is mad at the world for some reason and is checking IP's, pretending to be clever and embarrassing themselves along the way...
Hello Sugarfoot, thank you so much for your opinion; i've read it very carefully. Yes, agree with you, that could be it. As I wrote on my first post I did understood her reasons but being the second time she was refusing a date outside work I didn't say anything else because I wasn't sure if she was blowing me off so I just kept quiet and polite until the end. That's actually why a week later I sent her that casual text and we "talked" a little bit; I even told her to try and rest when she was telling me how busy and tired she was still and how it would be so until the end of July. If you are right I just hope I haven't messed things up beyond repair...
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Posted by LibrDude89
I would play it cool if I were you Lysander. I'm inclined to say that this girl may be interested in you but maybe your professional relationship or her wanting to see if you are seriously into her is making act the way you described but that's just MHO. Maybe she's into you, maybe she isn't, it's hard to say at this point and her friend's angle isn't quite clear so I would wait to see how things pan out in the next couple of weeks and just do your thing meanwhile.
Care to explain why you and this dude have the same IP?
Are you seriously trying to create other screen names to chime in on your own advice thread?? :/
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Jesus Christ, rockyroadicecream... seriously?! Do you realize how many millions of people would be sharing my IP yesterday; ever heard of mobile networks and mobile phones?! If you were half as smart as you clearly believe you are you would have considered even proxys before embarassing yourself...
Listen... If you want to contribute with anything constructive to this topic, please do so, if instead you continue to feel the need to behave like you have been doing, be rude and stalk people who post here please, oh please, get a grip of yourself and go wast your time somewhere else because this is becoming just sad; I'm here to talk in a friendly way with sane and polite people and share opinions, not deal with individuals with issues to take care of...Great, we are back on topic!
Nice to meet you Grey, thank you for your advice. I confess I am not completely sure what you are trying to say but being a Tennis fan myself my first thought was you were telling me to play two-handed backhand and rely on my legs to convert defense into attack but I have the feeling you had something else in mind...
Hello, LibrDude89, nice to meet you as well and thank you for your opinion; I agree I should play it cool, if she likes me she will let me know somehow soon enough; I just didn't want to act (even if by omission) in any way that would make me look mad at her so that's why everyone's opinion matter.
I hope this "sunny" disposition of yours isn't permanent and you are just having a bad day(s)... Cheer up rockyroadicecream!
I know that when we come on the Internet or ask someone else's opinion on forums every now and then we get someone in a bad mood trying to make everyone else feel the same way but thank you just the same, honestly. Just try to be a little bit more constructive like everyone else, that is the reason why I valued their opinion the most, don't take it personal; after all I am the Leo here and I am supposed to be the one doing that 
Hehe,rockyroadicecream, relax; I sincerely thank for your opinion and maybe it's my fault and I should've tried to explain things better but there is no need to extrapolate or distort based on things I didn't really wrote or did in the first place just to reinforce your point of view, I got your message long ago.
Oh, and of course I wasn't asking if I should chase her at this point, according to her friend (and herself last time we spoke)she isn't even free until 3 weeks from now; I was just asking indirectly and because you all said I shouldn't act mad (which I'm not) and play it cool if in the course of this time I should be completely in silence because before this we would casually exchange messages every week (I would initiate contact 2/3 of the time) and I suddenly stopped. According to you Dafna79 it seems clear what I should do.
Hello again Dafna79! I didn't really say anything besides using a Tongue-in-cheek expression to say I had invited her so maybe she was wrong about the crush on me thing, nothing more than that; the rest was all her friend talking and me listening. It seemed like her friend was trying to play the cupid at some point, idk...I'm doing what you said though.
It's OK rockyroadicecream, I understood your opinion and I also understood the others, no need to hurt yourself 
UPDATE
First of all, thank you for all your opinions since last time I posted, I am sure they are useful not only for myself but also for anyone else checking this topic trying to understand Libras a little bit better.
So, it seems like TaurusNikki, libragirl37 and Dafna79 are closer to the truth.
Like I've said before I had to contact the Libra girl for professional reasons but I never did it personally until here and I didn't change that, what I did instead was to ask a girl friend of hers who also works for me to do that; this particular friend was in the picture with me in the water park I mentioned. So after contacting the Libra the girl her friend came and have a conversation with me where she jokingly started to say that she believed that the Libra girl had a crush on me because she was initially very harsh with her on the phone when she picked up, like if she was mad at her or something but then it fade away as the conversation flowed.
I took the opportunity to try and get some more inside info and told her also jokingly that it was unlikely that the Libra girl had that crush on me since she happened to refuse an invitation to go with me that day (because she believed she would be too tired one week before); her friend told me that was actually very true and she knew for a fact that the Libra girl had been working 12 hours a day that week, was out of town a couple of days and only had that one day to rest and it would continue to be like that for the following 3 weeks, she didn't even had the time or energy to go out with the girls as they usually did. She also told me that the Libra girl confessed she was feeling very stressed because of the working hours and felt like punching everything she saw lately...
I did not get much more information and didn't gave away any myself and the conversation soon focused on business only.
So, in light of these new events what do you all think, should I stick to the prior plan or did anything changed?
Well, I am a guy and I am a Leo but I can tell you that what you are feeling is a sure sign that you are becoming more mature and it's very positive that it's happening early in your life; there are many girls probably twice your age that haven't reached that stage yet. You are not being to hard when you think you deserve the best, that's in fact very positive (at least for me) and will keep you away from many heartaches and problems. As for being to picky, your "pickyness" will also mature with time. IMO you are wise to want somebody who can appeal to you mind and stimulate you and that kind of person is not easy to find but when you do (and you will sooner or later) just be sure it appeal and stimulates you in a positive way 
Hello Libragirl37, great meeting you as well. I smiled with your last sentence because your opinion does help and I believe I understand what you, as a Libra girl yourself, are telling me but at the same time it does confuse me a bit because I am unsure how exactly be more dominant now. Maybe stop "chasing", like I said I would do and so may people advised, is the only way to eventually regroup and be dominant again now wouldn't you say so?
Hi Libra911, thanks for your opinion, I can only agree with you since logic is on your side, I am going to assume what you told me and behave accordingly.
I believe you are correct Dafna79 and I hope you are right since I will be doing jus that, your opinion was really helpful (as everyone Else's since they have things in common with yours).
Hello theGrinch, thanks for your opinion too, it's actually very valid and helpful as well. Your point of view is completely correct and what confused me the most was that I am far from being her main employer (not even close to that actually, she freelances and she doesn't need to work for scraps either) but even so she has accepted every single opportunity to be with me "professionally" even in easily dismissible situations like a 2 hours job with no publicity value or income value to her on the night of her Mother's birthday (I didn't knew that before seeing her that night or else I wouldn't have asked her to do the job) but when I asked her out outside work I got only excuses prior and after that... It's almost as if she wasn't sure she wanted to be alone with me outside work, I don't know. But in any case you are right and it's time to cut off all contact unless absolutely needed professionally, be polite and see what happens I guess.
Hello Dafna79, nice to meet you! I really value your opinion since you are a Libra girl and I do trust your judgement; the slight problem that I have is that I will actually need to contact her for professional reasons this week and I can't let personal motives interfere with that; I'll let someone else arrange things as I always did though...
Of course I must agree with that perspective rockyroadicecream, but i didn't mean she is emotionally damaged, in fact I am positive she isn't, but her past experiences (not only with her but also around her) made her believe in some stereotypes I guess.
My feelings are well in check and I am living my life, I am just fond of her and would like to know her better.
Hello there rockyroadicecream, thank you for your opinion. I can't really argue with your logic but maybe I wrote everything in a way that makes this Libra seem more "bitchy" than she may be in reality.
She is used to having guys hitting on her all the time and still she is alone for a long time now and most of the time she is actually just a plain sweet girl, sometimes shy, who actually lives with her old mom and picks abandoned dogs and cats from the street and feeds them in her backyard whenever she gets the chance. I guess that, besides her good looks, I was mostly attracted by her kind heart but on the other hand she is indeed very self centered...
Oh, I heard her saying many times that men are all the same so I guess someone did a number on her before...
Hello TaurusNikki and tiziani (love Miami Vice btw), thank you for your opinions. I fell you are both right in everything you wrote about my particular situation but when i said I was "worried" about what's on this Libra's girl mind now I was mostly referring to all combined aspects, meaning, I felt she was opening up to me slowly and we were getting closer but that last time I contacted her and she seemed colder I got the impression that maybe she interpreted my silence to her excuses when she did not accept my invitation because she would be too tired after a week of work traveling around as lack of understanding or consideration from my part for her motives or who she is.
I do believe that we reached a crucial point and I can either make it or break it with what I do or won't do next and everything I read about Libra girls and the attraction phase of relationships is so contradictory, even here on DXP, that the more I read the more confused I am.
By the interpretation I make on written opinions about Libra girls, for some of them this is a time where reassurance of interest would be in order on my part, for other however this would the time to back off completely and say nothing more until she said anything first and then for others it would seem like I blew it already.
(...)the following weekend but she refused and went one saying she would be too tired for that by then and that she needed her 8 hours sleep every night otherwise she would be ill and went on, and on for a couple of minutes. Well, I said nothing during that time besides a initial, "you could rest in the car if you wish" and then I went mute and just listened to her excuses. When she finished we made the last 5 minutes to her home in complete silence, we kissed goodbye on the cheek as usual and that was it. The reason why I was silent was because I didn't felt comfortable having another invitation of mine rejected, this time in a day she was free but she already knew she was going to be tired... Don't get me wrong, I understand we are not all alike and some people need more rest or function on a different pace so this is not the problem, the problem is that, on my experience, when a girl rejects an invitation more than 2 times without trying to reschedule to another day then something else is going on and it's never good to the guy who is chasing her.
I let the whole week go by and then, last monday, I sent her a casual text message about the bad weather and how she was lucky the summer was waiting for her, she replied immediately and we exchanged a couple of texts where she was now telling me how busy she was and how she would be like that until the end of July, through all the texts she was polite but I noticed she was colder than usual.
I happened to used the voucher a couple of days ago (after texting her) and while in the water park I actually casually encountered 2 girls who also work for me and the Libra girl knows and is friends with on facebook; they took a very casual picture with me and posted it on facebook so the Libra girl will probably see it and I am actually worried about what she will think because I didn't actually do anything wrong and I even invited her to come along.
So now, I don't know if I should contact her and just check how she is doing since I will probably not see her for a couple of weeks or if I should stay in my corner and do nothing hoping she will come around which takes us back to the title of the topic: When should we chase a Libra girl when when not to?
Any opinion in my personal case or just in general will be very much appreciated and helpful not only to myself but also for the hundreds, maybe thousands, of people checking this forum and confused by Libras 
Hello,
I read something about Libras in general that, even though it's confusing, seems to bare some truth because of so many different opinions I have encountered not only here on DXP but also all around the internet; it goes something like this:
"They also like to make the first move (even the women) and will lose interest quickly in a person that they don't feel in control of or that they feel they no longer have to chase."
I'm am confused because it seems contradictory at first sight; it almost seems to say that, on one hand, Libras lose interest when not in control and, on the other hand, they lose interest when they think that have all the control... I believe that especially in early stages of courtship this can be extremely tricky to manage and I, personally speaking, am in a situation with a Libra girl I am very fond of where I don't know if chasing her or leave her be is the best course of action.
In my case, i met this beautiful Libra girl a couple of months ago in work (she is a model) and since I am her boss during the first couple of weeks I didn't make any kind of move and was just polite until she showed interest in me, at this point I casually asked her out to a play, she said she couldn't make it that day because of another job, I did not make a big deal out of it and we kept talking not only in work (we saw each other at least once every 2 weeks) but also though text (sometimes I would initiate casual contact and sometimes she would) and she shared many personal things about her life and her family during this period.
I went on a trip abroad and even brought her a souvenir just to show I cared and she loved the fact that I remembered her while I was away. During this whole period I did not formally asked her out but there were a couple of times when we could have gone out after work but on those two time she was either too tired from the day and needed to sleep or she was late for her brother's birthday party. Again, I did not make a fuss about anything because I know we are both busy people with stressful lives in our own way.
Then, 3 weeks ago, I was giving her a ride home and, as the conversation flowed she was talking about how busy she currently was and how she was sorry she could only go to the beach in July and only had one day free next week, I invited her to come with me on a one day trip to an water park 2 hours away she said she loved and for witch I happened to have a free voucher on the day she had free th
Nice, you even withhold yourself from saying the correct movie title allowing in the process the cat remark to be funnier. Now that is good sarcasm :-)
Hi southernbeauty,
You're doing fine, don't worry. What you usually hear about Leos are cliches normally about the immature and/or insecure (about their career, looks, reputation, or any other thing) type of Leos, these type of Leos are really hard to deal with and sometimes give a bad rep to the rest of us. Fortunately you seem to have encountered one "good one". Just keep doing things exactly as you are doing right now, no back offs, no sudden changes, no lies, no pressure, only sincere compliments and this one will be yours for life. As for your questions there is really no need to answer them in detail because of what I just told you but I can say this:
1)Yes we like to chase you and he is but in a non-stalkerish way, we leave that to all the others...
2)Exactly as it happens to me when I like someone.
3)If keeps up acting like this in a consistent way then you can be sure you are a couple. He will be up-front when he has no doubts about his feelings and yours.
Go with the flow for now, Good Luck.
Hi Juls,
I have no clue if he cares about you or not and if he does not act like a Leo then this probably does not mean much but I must say this: If i liked a Girl and she asked me to go out on a date I would not care if asking for the night off could cause me to close the store for the rest of the month, I would ask for that night off! If I could not get it (and as punishment got stuck with closing the store for the rest of the month) I would not quit the job because of that but I would try to arrange a date with that Girl for some other time and I would not blame her for the Guys at the store being so uptight.
Hello muse,
Just wanted to say:
- He knows he should have spend more time with you. That is why he was nervous and apologetic and that is why he called when he got home.
- He is extremely insecure about something, that is for sure; probably about how you fell about him or some other issue like that. I do not know enough to give an opinion on your situation but Leo Man are extremely easy to understand to someone who knows them.
Hi SouthernT,
I am a Leo but after reading all the messages in this topic I am positive that the best advice someone can possibly give you right now is to remember what Eldorado told you to do on your other topic "Scorpio test their potential mates?". I read that topic 2 days ago and now those messages I am talking about are gone but it seems to me that even though you may think you are doing what he said you are just sending more confusing signals for someone who seems to be already confused and afraid... Just remember to take advice about guys from people who truly understand them: other guys (and other Scorpio in Eldorado's case)!! I felt the urge to post my advice because I was completely surprised to read the following cliche: "If a guy does not call you or contact you for a long period of time, it means he does not care." This is only true if the guy knows without shadow of a doubt that you like him and still acts like this, in all other cases this is completely false (there can be so many reasons, like having a backbone for instance...) and just feminist talk one step away from saying that all man are alike...
Hi chikohot.
I am a Leo and I can say that ONE TRUE LEO's advise is spot on. Personally I try to protect my heart with all my strength for as long as possible because I know I can fall in Love very quickly when I like someone. As for verbally expressing my Love I take a long, long time in doing so and I only do it if I am positive the other person feels the same but my actions speak so load that I find unnecessary to say "I love you". Anyone can say this but few can express it as we do. If he loves you he should be buying you small gifts or flowers every now and then for no reason at all or trying to do stuff for you without you even asking and treating you very well when he is with you like if you were the only women in the world when you two are together. Do not listen to what he says or to text messages or phone calls (I hate these things so, so much...) just notice how he treats you when he is with you, if is is doing anything similar to what I described in my last sentence than he loves you or is falling for you.
Believe me P-Angel, I would really do that if I could but besides the fact that we are not even boyfriends and suggesting something like this could make her think I was some kind of wacko, I own a company, it is not a big company (it will be) but it is my own and I have people relying on me so moving would be insane besides I know myself well enough to be sure I would be able to remain loyal to her for the time she was away, I already am now and we do not even have a relationship, I am just not able to involve myself with anyone if I love somebody else but I have no way of proving this to her. She knows so much about me and she told so many personal things about her that I feel there is not much more to know about each other if things remain as they are today because things are just weird right now.
I know notso07, I know. I am so unsure because a month ago she got extremely mad at me like I have never seen her before with anyone else (with no real reason I must say because she thought I had done something I did not do, she found out the truth through others eventually; the subject she was mad about was more professional than personal and had nothing to do with jealousy or matters like that) and when I talked with her during this period still unaware of how mad she was I told her we should talk about us to which she replied in the coldest way you can possibly imagine that we had nothing else to talk about and that we should only talk about professional matters and nothing more... I completely backed off after that and we only talked 2 weeks later when she called me on my birthday, she sounded like her old self again. We did not talk of what she said until this day and the "acting unnatural part" in my first post started to show with more intensity after this but, like I said before, she does not "hide" from me and she seems to try to get me to stay close to her. I know I felt the so called "sting" of the scorpios as she clearly tried to hurt me with the way she talked but I do not know how much importance I should put in her words over her actions or vice-versa. My gut tells me she is afraid of liking me to much and getting hurt like she was in the past so she prefers to be alone until she goes away to protect her heart and mind and focus on her work, that is basically what she says to others but not talking about me specifically, she just says she does not like no one and does not want to.
I felt like doing that so many times but always ended up thinking I should not pressure her. I think I even read somewhere we should not press Scorpios in these situations but I know I reached a point where I must do something even if that means disappear.
Hello Scorpios, I need your help because I do not know if I am doing the right thing with a Girl in a very particular situation who says she does not want to fall in love with nobody because in approximately 15 or 20 months she will have to travel abroad to another continent for professional reasons and stay there for 1 whole year, maybe more, before she comes back. 2 years ago she had a boyfriend who cheated on her when she had to travel away for 4 months, when she found out she obviously broke up the 4 year relationship they had but she suffered a lot (I know this from her friends).
It is clear that she has some kind of feelings for me but when I met her 9 months ago she had started a relationship with a guy that lasted a month but I know through her friends that she did not like the guy to begin with and that he was a long time friend that begged her for an opportunity so she knew it would not last.
Since we do not talk about our situation everything is interpreted between the lines and we act weird but right about now she already knows how I feel about her through my actions. She is extremely good at hiding emotions but recently I noticed that my presence makes her act in a very unnatural way, I would even goes as far as saying that my presence bothers her, her actions started to seem mixed and inconsistent (one minute she is cold, the other she seems shy, one minute later she is happy and playful then she is cold again...). Then again she insisted that me and my sister went to visit her in her new job and at the same time tries to make plans with my sister for the 3 of us to go on a trip to an amusement Park next week and she has dozens of better friends than my sister?
If the reasons she says are true (at least part of it must be because she says the same thing to all her friends and family and she is extremely beautiful so she could find a new boyfriend every hour) how in the world should I behave and make her understand I love her enough to face the difficulties ahead and be loyal and wait for her if we get there? Talking with her is extremely difficult right now and sometimes I feel she values actions over words but what I fell is real and I am truly willing to face any challenge because I know I will probably never find someone like her again in my life. I can not say if she likes me to little or to much. I am a Leo by the way.
Thank you for your help.
I'm talking of Jealousy when in love.
Hi, I am wondering how Jealous do you consider yourselves to be, how do you act when jealous (are you able to hide it or does it show, do you pout or explode, etc.) and how rational or irrational can be the source of your jealousy (if you are only Jealous with very strong motives or do you become jealous even of things you know you shouldn't).
Hi Lady Scorp, fortunately he could know my whole life inside out and still have nothing bad to say about me and whatever he makes up I know she would probably not believe; she knows me well enough and is smarter than that. I just fell really uncomfortable with this situation because I really like this girl and truly care for her and can't picture myself starting a relationship today and say after the first kiss: "Oh, by the way, I have a Loony Toon after me who swear to make my life miserable so you will probably be troubled by him because you're with me (and he is crazy so I don't know his limits) so for the next couple of weeks, until I deal with him once and for all, please just ignore him and everything he says".Hi Scorp-In-Law, Roxijam and Ocean, thank you for your opinions. I can see that to Scorpios this sounds a little like overreaction and excessive drama. She has indeed heard this from a third party to whom I told this, I asked this third party to keep secret. I know she knows because this so called third party came to me and told me she had spilled her guts because she thought it was necessary in this stage. Like Roxijam said I decided to keep this to myself because If I told her directly it would probably sound like an excuse. This third party said that her reaction was saying that I should not condition any decision in my life because of anybody and that I should trust other people to be smart enough to handle this kind of situation coming their way.
The problem is I am dealing with a weirdo and I still cannot predict what he is capable of but I will solve all this in the next couple of weeks/months for sure. I am pretty sure that he would at least bother her with crazy phone calls or text messages (he can get her number easily) if he knew we had a relationship and I have no right of asking her to stand whatever he is capable of doing or saying on such an early stage of a relationship that doesn't even exist especially in this phase where she has to worry about her studies. I know she is strong enough to handle something like this, that is not the point, I just don't want her to endure problems caused by me when we haven't even seriously dated. I was thinking of letting her finish her College exams and talk with her in the middle of July or so when all this situation becomes clearer either way; I am only afraid of losing her before that...
Please imagine the following scenario:
a Scorpio girl is very fond of a Leo guy but even though she gave him all the necessary hints for him to "close her" and they both fell they like each other and act weird when together the guy does not seem to move a single step to make anything happen. Scorpio Girl starts getting tired of this and has troubles figuring out Leo and starts dating other guys but only as friends for the time, she hides the fact from Leo; she notices he looks sad or preoccupied at times.
Then something happens, someone reveals to Scorpio Girl that the Leo is holding back because someone has been threatening him because of old family issues and he fells that if he starts a relationship with her she would probably have problems because of this and he believes she must be as calm and peaceful as possible because she is finishing College and need to focus on this subject without being disturbed by problems created by someone trying to hurt him indirectly, that is why he is acting with her in this repressed way.
So, what would a revelation like this do to a Scorpio girl and her feelings towards this guy? Will she stay or will she go?