Message Posts by innersmile
Posted by lnana04
Nah, I have a better understanding now. I can see how that particular behavior is annoying.
It's only annoying from time to time. Sometimes I/we can deal with it, other times not so much. Depends on the circumstances. If I can see they are capable of learning or understanding their behaviour, then I'll try to understand and be patient as well. But if it's like that Einstein's quote (insanity is doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results), then ... : )
So that's what's been happening! 
And there I was thinking how come all the things suddenly started to move.
I had a song stuck in my head not very long ago. I was asking (in my head) what'll the near future brings, and my player just threw me one song again and again.
Listen to the lyrics. Sounds about right, eh?
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And there I was thinking how come all the things suddenly started to move. I had a song stuck in my head not very long ago. I was asking (in my head) what'll the near future brings, and my player just threw me one song again and again.
Listen to the lyrics. Sounds about right, eh?
< width="420" height="315" ="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGdrNHH4qk"
Inana, true that! I know she wants to be, or rather IS, kind to me. She teached me how to show my feelings better and so on, we're great friends and haven't had a serious fight. I don't like fighting, arguing, conflicts etc at all.
But my point was rather that a few people like a mirror staring back at them. I appreciate when someone shows some character, has an opinion of their own, e.g. mentally stimulating conversation. What I don't like is when people "absorb" what I say and then, after few days, come back and say the same to me, present exact same words as their own and don't understand why I go all silent or ignore. How come they don't remember or choose to ignore the fact we talked about it in a very recent past? It's those little things.
Gosh, I sound rather bi**y!
But my point was rather that a few people like a mirror staring back at them. I appreciate when someone shows some character, has an opinion of their own, e.g. mentally stimulating conversation. What I don't like is when people "absorb" what I say and then, after few days, come back and say the same to me, present exact same words as their own and don't understand why I go all silent or ignore. How come they don't remember or choose to ignore the fact we talked about it in a very recent past? It's those little things.
Gosh, I sound rather bi**y!
For the original OP. YES!
But it also depends on the person. I, for example, detest weakness. Not helplessness or genuine weakness (i.e. due to disability), but one might call it a lack of spine. If someone proves over and over again that they are unable to make decisions, agree with everything you say, never make a move or never have an original idea, then yes, I will "run all over" that person. Sometimes it's not even a concious move.
I have a situation with my best friend right now. We'd been getting along just fine, but as we have to share an apartment together, I've noticed more how dependent she is (she's a Cancer, btw). She agrees with almost everything I say or do, doesn't say one bad word about my behaviour etc. So I (un)knowingly like to push her buttons sometimes, just so she'd yell at me or at least stay mad. But she holds it in. And as the days/months go by, I detest (yea, I know, strong word) it even more.
She is one of those people who can't be on their own very long - she just doesn't know how to sit still, read, you know, take time for yourself. I can go for days without communication, I am never bored when alone. And if you can't be alone, then, to me, it's a warning sign for god-knows-what. I just know it makes me angry for some reason. It's like I have take care of a puppy someone left at my doorstep - even though I like this furry creature, I didn't ask for it, wasn't prepared for it, so please, take it away now.
Everybody needs some feistiness, you can't always be mellow and go with the flow. I've noticed it with other Bulls too - if you cannot stand up for yourself or your're just too lenient, then we tend to override your drives without feeling any remorse, thinking "maybe this time s/he'll learn something in the process".
But it also depends on the person. I, for example, detest weakness. Not helplessness or genuine weakness (i.e. due to disability), but one might call it a lack of spine. If someone proves over and over again that they are unable to make decisions, agree with everything you say, never make a move or never have an original idea, then yes, I will "run all over" that person. Sometimes it's not even a concious move.
I have a situation with my best friend right now. We'd been getting along just fine, but as we have to share an apartment together, I've noticed more how dependent she is (she's a Cancer, btw). She agrees with almost everything I say or do, doesn't say one bad word about my behaviour etc. So I (un)knowingly like to push her buttons sometimes, just so she'd yell at me or at least stay mad. But she holds it in. And as the days/months go by, I detest (yea, I know, strong word) it even more.
She is one of those people who can't be on their own very long - she just doesn't know how to sit still, read, you know, take time for yourself. I can go for days without communication, I am never bored when alone. And if you can't be alone, then, to me, it's a warning sign for god-knows-what. I just know it makes me angry for some reason. It's like I have take care of a puppy someone left at my doorstep - even though I like this furry creature, I didn't ask for it, wasn't prepared for it, so please, take it away now.
Everybody needs some feistiness, you can't always be mellow and go with the flow. I've noticed it with other Bulls too - if you cannot stand up for yourself or your're just too lenient, then we tend to override your drives without feeling any remorse, thinking "maybe this time s/he'll learn something in the process".
Thank you for your replies, I think I might just do that ... in the near future.
Posted by PetiteVeau
I think Taurus men handle these types of women pretty well. Maybe they just like the attention, maybe it makes them feel more secure in their possession over the clingy person. *shrug*
Also, I've seen Taurus men stay perfectly calm and collected when faced with the most emotionally intense women you can imagine. This can be good, but I've also seen it drive women nuts when they're trying to evoke some kind of reaction out of them.
+1
I have three good Taurean (male) friends, who all have at some point crossed paths with these kind of women. They play it cool, but secretly like the attention. If anything, it boosts their ego. And though they might not show it right away, they are somewhat grateful.
With my friends, it's that they keep those women close just to get that attention they're craving. But yes, a little too much (well, who can say how much is too much) can drive them away, because they feel like the stable earth beneath their feet has suddenly started to shake, and they dislike it. If they like you enough, clingy might be good, but if the feeling is not mutual, then you can wait for the response 'til the river flows backwards.