Message Posts by jjjjjat
This thread is rife with sexism and double standards. I would have expected better from Virgos.
I'd have to agree, at least as far as I am concerned. I don't fall for someone all that often, but when I do, I fall quick and I fall hard. It's actually quite detrimental because I get clingy and develop very high expectations very early on.
I've never cheated on anyone, and I never would. Whether or not that has to do with me being a Virgo or that I was cheated on at an early age and vowed I would never make anyone feel the way I felt at that time is up for debate, I suppose.
If you were to do this, I would highly recommend you don't gush, and don't over-exxagerate, and don't say anything silly and meaningless, like "if I could catch a star for you, I would." Personally, those type of sentiments strike me as void and empty of any real meaning. I appreciate the real, tangible things, like calling home if you were running 10 minutes late, or maybe a kiss or cuddle in the middle of the day for no reason, or preparing my favorite meal, over some love letter. But perhaps that's just me.
On a positive note, I haven't really met many Leos to die. I think that honesty is a good trait but we do it to a fault. If he told you he wasn't dating anyone else, then he probably wasn't. We're open books, even if that means sometimes hurting someone else.
I think that you gave him too much power by laying it on thick. We love challenges and complications. I think you should disappear for a few weeks and then maybe send him an email or what not. I'm sure with a disappearing act, he will start wondering about you and either a) look for you or b) calm down and be more receptive when he hears from you later.
Well, yeah... I mean, I trust -almost- everythign he says... I asked him if he was seeing anyone else, he said no... I asked him if he was going to be sexually active with anyone else, he said no... I asked him if he was truly interested in me, and then the less than obvious answers come along. I trust him for what he says, but the most I can get out of him, as far as I am concerned, is that he -might- be somewhat interested in me. I'd almost guarentee, from what I read, it isn't someone else who is holding him back...
He's been hurt a lot, though... Yet, so have I. And I would think that I, as a Virgo, would be more jaded than a Loe, or have a bigger perpensity to become that way. Although, admittedly, he has been hurt more than I have, as his first didnt' come to a natural end, but rather was put to an end by a drunk driver... But how do you sympathize with this? He is so distant, but he says he's interested. It's very hard for me, as a Virgo, to deal with inconsistincies, and it is all he seems to be made of! Yet, I like him a lot, he is very differenft from other's I've met (as well am I), and this thing is truly something I wish would result in a life-long relationship... But how can we deal with each other?
Like someone said... Virgo's and Leo's are certainly not a match made in heaven... But it can work, with a little work, right?
I think that you gave him too much power by laying it on thick. We love challenges and complications. I think you should disappear for a few weeks and then maybe send him an email or what not. I'm sure with a disappearing act, he will start wondering about you and either a) look for you or b) calm down and be more receptive when he hears from you later.
Well, yeah... I mean, I trust -almost- everythign he says... I asked him if he was seeing anyone else, he said no... I asked him if he was going to be sexually active with anyone else, he said no... I asked him if he was truly interested in me, and then the less than obvious answers come along. I trust him for what he says, but the most I can get out of him, as far as I am concerned, is that he -might- be somewhat interested in me. I'd almost guarentee, from what I read, it isn't someone else who is holding him back...
He's been hurt a lot, though... Yet, so have I. And I would think that I, as a Virgo, would be more jaded than a Loe, or have a bigger perpensity to become that way. Although, admittedly, he has been hurt more than I have, as his first didnt' come to a natural end, but rather was put to an end by a drunk driver... But how do you sympathize with this? He is so distant, but he says he's interested. It's very hard for me, as a Virgo, to deal with inconsistincies, and it is all he seems to be made of! Yet, I like him a lot, he is very differenft from other's I've met (as well am I), and this thing is truly something I wish would result in a life-long relationship... But how can we deal with each other?
Like someone said... Virgo's and Leo's are certainly not a match made in heaven... But it can work, with a little work, right?
Leos usually aren't that cautious. If we like you, we'll go into it full-throttle w/out thinking twice. The only time we're cautious is when we're looking after our own interests, meaning that if we don't seem 100% into you...odds are that you're probably competing with another or others and we're not sure who to choose.
After only having seen eachother for 2 weeks, you probably did lay it on way too thick. Give him space. Let him breathe. He'll look for you later if he's into you. For now, you should do absolutely nothing.
Okay, well, that is what I will do (although I have no real feeling of closure to the situation and it is consuming my every thought...). But really, he seems jaded. I'm almost certain he doesn't have anyone else in the wings... at least that is what he says (I made a point of mentioning that when I date someone, that is what I do, and that I'm highly against dating multiple people at one time). But yeah, I agree that I probably laid it on too thick. That was a thought in my mind long before you mentioned it. Is becoming that way too much for a Leo? I mean, how long should I wait before I know for certain he doesn't ever want to see me again?
After only having seen eachother for 2 weeks, you probably did lay it on way too thick. Give him space. Let him breathe. He'll look for you later if he's into you. For now, you should do absolutely nothing.
Okay, well, that is what I will do (although I have no real feeling of closure to the situation and it is consuming my every thought...). But really, he seems jaded. I'm almost certain he doesn't have anyone else in the wings... at least that is what he says (I made a point of mentioning that when I date someone, that is what I do, and that I'm highly against dating multiple people at one time). But yeah, I agree that I probably laid it on too thick. That was a thought in my mind long before you mentioned it. Is becoming that way too much for a Leo? I mean, how long should I wait before I know for certain he doesn't ever want to see me again?
Now, reading this board, I've come to the conclusion that there must be something wrong with me. While I do admit to sharing some typical Virgoan traits, such as the Virgo eyes, the need to feel needed (helpful), a high amount of criticism, and a pronounced ability to withdraw on a moments notice, at the same time I am highly emotional. My emotions actually lead me, moreso than my mind seems to do. Although they do certainly seem to work in conjuction with each other, the mind seems to actually exxacerbate my emotions. And I wear my heart on my sleeve! Is this not the exact opposite of what a true Virgo would do. I am so willful to love that it consumes me, even just the feeling for the potential. This then leads me to become attached very easily, and the expectations of perfectionism from others develops at a rapid pace. I seem to be a Virgo and a paradox to it all the same.
A Virgo that is ruled by emotions, you ask? That is me, and you should be thankful it isn't you.
A Virgo that is ruled by emotions, you ask? That is me, and you should be thankful it isn't you.
Ok, well thanks everyone. I guess I'll just play the waiting game then.
Oh, and I guess I'm leaving something out... Basically, the dialogue leading up to this was:
Me: You say this, but then you do this, and this, and this, and this, and this
Me: So if you don't like me just say so, it will be easier that way
Them: I don't have to explain myself to anyone, etc etc
Them: I'll make it easy for you, I gave you a chance and you blew it, Goodbye I don't need this -explitive-
Although this has been the first time they were overtly angry with me (I could tell b/c there was a tremendous difference in the way they was typing and in coherency), I have kind of been nagging about this probably a whole helluva lot more than I should have been for only seeing each other for 2 weeks or so...
But anyway, does that make a difference in the degree of anger they are feeling?
And is it normal for a Leo to be extremely, extremely cautious about getting involved? It would seem that is the only explanation I can come up with or gather from his responses to my endless questioning.
Oh, and I guess I'm leaving something out... Basically, the dialogue leading up to this was:
Me: You say this, but then you do this, and this, and this, and this, and this
Me: So if you don't like me just say so, it will be easier that way
Them: I don't have to explain myself to anyone, etc etc
Them: I'll make it easy for you, I gave you a chance and you blew it, Goodbye I don't need this -explitive-
Although this has been the first time they were overtly angry with me (I could tell b/c there was a tremendous difference in the way they was typing and in coherency), I have kind of been nagging about this probably a whole helluva lot more than I should have been for only seeing each other for 2 weeks or so...
But anyway, does that make a difference in the degree of anger they are feeling?
And is it normal for a Leo to be extremely, extremely cautious about getting involved? It would seem that is the only explanation I can come up with or gather from his responses to my endless questioning.
Kris I think jjjat is using "they" because its neuter so we don;t know whether we a male or female is talking about males or females lol ...is that deliberate for privacy jjjat?
Well, no, it's not so much for the sake of privacy as it is to avoid flames :-P
Well, no, it's not so much for the sake of privacy as it is to avoid flames :-P
a virgo leo pair usually means hell personally i hate virgos more than any sign i say you should leave him in peace go find a cap or taurus .
Meh, we actually get along quite well when we're together. I guess I sort of left out that there is a distance between us, like a 4 hour drive, so it would make it hard to see each other. I think that is part of where the problem is. But I really like them, and at least they say they like me and wanted to see where this relationship would lead to, up until the point where I pissed them off.
Meh, we actually get along quite well when we're together. I guess I sort of left out that there is a distance between us, like a 4 hour drive, so it would make it hard to see each other. I think that is part of where the problem is. But I really like them, and at least they say they like me and wanted to see where this relationship would lead to, up until the point where I pissed them off.
I'm a virgo 
Well, in short, I've kinda been seeing this leo for a couple weeks. They said that they like me, but that is about the extent of the attention they've been paying me. Doesn't say much at all, really, but they have been hanging out with some other person quite a lot. Well anyways, I've been kind of jealous and been questioning them about all this time they are spending with this other person, and while they say nothing is going on blah blah blah (and I believe that to be the truth), it's been kind of hard because I've not recieved nearly as much attention. So, I've been questioning their intentions with me and questioning whether they actually like me or not, up until the point where I guess I finally drove them of and they said that they gave me a chance but I blew it, then proceeded to block me in all forms.
So I shouldn't keep seeking forgiveness? Or should I just let it go? Or, tell me how many days I should wait until I say I'm sorry again lol.
So I shouldn't keep seeking forgiveness? Or should I just let it go? Or, tell me how many days I should wait until I say I'm sorry again lol.
If you make a Leo mad at you, and they stop talking to you, will they eventually forgive you? Or is it the end?
Well, yes, I realize it is a common thought-process. The problem is that scorpio moon makes me overly emotional. Whereas most virgos can remain -stoic- unless provoked, I provoke myself into an emotional frenzy that I can't control. It's just, I always end up saying something stupid. I say it in a controlled, calm manner like I have all the restrain in the world, but inside of me it's like that proverbial volcano is erupting with no end in sight, until I have said my peace, then sit there for an hour thinking about what I said, realize how stupid it was, then have to go apologize. Well, by that time they think I'm a freak and no longer have interest in me, all while the only reason I overreacted is because I like them! It's become a viscious cycle that I can't seem to control.
Ok, well I'm a Virgo with moon in Scorpio and also Scorpio rising. I am very, very emotional and it's been a problem for getting into relationships. Even over little things, my mind with work it's Virgo magic on something seemingly miniscule, I'll think it over and over and over until I've reached a conclusion that is way out of proportion, and then that conclusion gets handed over to my emotions. Then, I try to bottle it up, but most often I just feel like exploding if I do that, and then I end up going through an outburst of sorts about things I invented in my head. It's absolutely terrible, and I don't know how to control it. Anyone else have this problem? Or perhaps a recommendation to control myself?