Sukutai joined November 13, 2007
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I'm a cap and yes I do catch myself gossiping sometimes. Should I gossip about you it is because you annoy me and I told you about it before I go out and talk about it to others. I would never disagree that I can be a mean bitch sometimes as well especially if I feel someone is lazy, trying to get something from me or disrespectful towards me or someone else.
Keep in mind: being friendly with you does not mean that we like you nor that we want to know you better. I'll have to go with cap on this one. By the way I love aquarious and at the same time they annoy me too. They are too quiet.
Keep in mind: being friendly with you does not mean that we like you nor that we want to know you better. I'll have to go with cap on this one. By the way I love aquarious and at the same time they annoy me too. They are too quiet.
Thank you sagi,
I have been talking to more women in person about abuse. Honestly I am a buhddist and I just trust that he will not put any of it on the internet. What that is concerned I know I am protected somehow. I no longer have any pictures of him though as I destroyed everything that once binded me to him. I still pray for him to become absolutely happy in his life. Afterall all bad people have some sense of good and I know for a fact that his concious is eating away at him so I am at peace with him and much more at peace with myself.
You know, after breaking up with him I have learnt and still learning to love cherish and respect myself unconditionally. I realize that you cannot give what you do not have. If you don't love yourself how could you be able to love someone else? I also learnt that money is not equivelant to having self worth. Though love with bread is important it is also important not to get lost in the bread dough. hahahaha
I must however thank you for having me summon up a short memory of my past (didn't expect that though). I am reminded once again that I am going into the right direction.
"cappies are supposed to be good at manipulation as well... we are complex..."
That's true we do manipulate but never to jeopordize the ones we love or the people in our surroundings. I manipulate only for a win win situation for all present or included.
Also true we are very very complexed sometimes classified as weird.
Be blessed sagigoat and I'm off to complete some work here.
Sukutai
I have been talking to more women in person about abuse. Honestly I am a buhddist and I just trust that he will not put any of it on the internet. What that is concerned I know I am protected somehow. I no longer have any pictures of him though as I destroyed everything that once binded me to him. I still pray for him to become absolutely happy in his life. Afterall all bad people have some sense of good and I know for a fact that his concious is eating away at him so I am at peace with him and much more at peace with myself.
You know, after breaking up with him I have learnt and still learning to love cherish and respect myself unconditionally. I realize that you cannot give what you do not have. If you don't love yourself how could you be able to love someone else? I also learnt that money is not equivelant to having self worth. Though love with bread is important it is also important not to get lost in the bread dough. hahahaha
I must however thank you for having me summon up a short memory of my past (didn't expect that though). I am reminded once again that I am going into the right direction.
"cappies are supposed to be good at manipulation as well... we are complex..."
That's true we do manipulate but never to jeopordize the ones we love or the people in our surroundings. I manipulate only for a win win situation for all present or included.
Also true we are very very complexed sometimes classified as weird.
Be blessed sagigoat and I'm off to complete some work here.
Sukutai
Hey sagi,
Your welcome and trust me that is just a tiny portion of my experience he never beat me down physically but tormented me mentally.
There is absolutely no need to appologize. I know it is a horrible story but honestly he has strong scorpion traits and is a man who was abusive. Thing is, no matter what star sign a man is, we women of all signs choose to submit to abusive behaviours for whatever reason. Me being a capricorn I am awear that I can and will survive and I just need to learn to stay true to myself no matter what.
See when I love someone I love them profoundly and I would give you the world if I have to in order to see you smile. That is my mistake that I forget to demand what I also deserve. Maybe my story can help other women I don't know. Like I said I have learnt alot from my life's experiences and it saddens me deeply when I see or hear other women going through some form of abuse and still believe that it is love. Women are good at making excuses for their men.
What financial security is concerned I also need that and that's why I put up with my ex in hope that after he completed his education we could build a strong financial bond together. This again was my mistake because it was never about me. Now indeed I am looking for someone who is allready secure and no longer looking for someone less competent than I am what financial is concerned.:-)
He did mention the last time he called begging for forgiveness that he did not appreciate my independance and that kind of made him feel less of a man but that was his own issue and not mine which I had to pay for it anyway. He was sorry because he always knew that Iam a very capable woman who is very independant. (told him he's too late with being sorry)
I am trully over my past and feel a great sense of compassion for him and I am not afraid to talk about my experience openly. I can only say watch out for manipulation and psychological games because scorps are good at it.
Your welcome and trust me that is just a tiny portion of my experience he never beat me down physically but tormented me mentally.
There is absolutely no need to appologize. I know it is a horrible story but honestly he has strong scorpion traits and is a man who was abusive. Thing is, no matter what star sign a man is, we women of all signs choose to submit to abusive behaviours for whatever reason. Me being a capricorn I am awear that I can and will survive and I just need to learn to stay true to myself no matter what.
See when I love someone I love them profoundly and I would give you the world if I have to in order to see you smile. That is my mistake that I forget to demand what I also deserve. Maybe my story can help other women I don't know. Like I said I have learnt alot from my life's experiences and it saddens me deeply when I see or hear other women going through some form of abuse and still believe that it is love. Women are good at making excuses for their men.
What financial security is concerned I also need that and that's why I put up with my ex in hope that after he completed his education we could build a strong financial bond together. This again was my mistake because it was never about me. Now indeed I am looking for someone who is allready secure and no longer looking for someone less competent than I am what financial is concerned.:-)
He did mention the last time he called begging for forgiveness that he did not appreciate my independance and that kind of made him feel less of a man but that was his own issue and not mine which I had to pay for it anyway. He was sorry because he always knew that Iam a very capable woman who is very independant. (told him he's too late with being sorry)
I am trully over my past and feel a great sense of compassion for him and I am not afraid to talk about my experience openly. I can only say watch out for manipulation and psychological games because scorps are good at it.
I forgot a minor detail the reffers to me cheating and this could be grows for some but I am over all that happenned because I chose to stick it out with him. Because of so many years invested into this relationship I refused to see that it was no longer a healthy realationship.
I can sleep really hard meaning you can bite me and I can't feel a thing. What he used to do is put on a video camera and used lubricants and foreign objects to stick up in my body when I was a sleep. Then he would wait when I am not home to look at his great accomplishments. Months later he proudly came to me and showed me a few of his film productions and I scolded him and told him never to that again because it is against my concent. I practically call it rape but guess what he felt I had no right to think that way so he continued. That was when I let him know that it is my body and I decide and choose what I will do with it and that is when I told him that I was going to have sex with someone else. The relationship was practically drawing to an end.
In other words he wanted to dominate my body but never got dominant about the fact that I am outgoing and love going out with my friends. Up to that moment I was very faithful to this monster.After two years after I broke all contact with him, he called me two months ago begging me to forgive because he spent the last two years remorsing about how he treated and all that he did. All I could tell him is what goes around comes around in threefolds and I hope he could forgive himself because I moved on.
I can sleep really hard meaning you can bite me and I can't feel a thing. What he used to do is put on a video camera and used lubricants and foreign objects to stick up in my body when I was a sleep. Then he would wait when I am not home to look at his great accomplishments. Months later he proudly came to me and showed me a few of his film productions and I scolded him and told him never to that again because it is against my concent. I practically call it rape but guess what he felt I had no right to think that way so he continued. That was when I let him know that it is my body and I decide and choose what I will do with it and that is when I told him that I was going to have sex with someone else. The relationship was practically drawing to an end.
In other words he wanted to dominate my body but never got dominant about the fact that I am outgoing and love going out with my friends. Up to that moment I was very faithful to this monster.After two years after I broke all contact with him, he called me two months ago begging me to forgive because he spent the last two years remorsing about how he treated and all that he did. All I could tell him is what goes around comes around in threefolds and I hope he could forgive himself because I moved on.
Two years along the line I am now greatful to this jerk. He put me in touch with myself in greater ways than one. I picked up and I am now moving on, everyday is another day to achieve my successes and I won't give up till I get all that I am worth. I am so happy that I went through all this mess in 10 years with one man other than having four different men illtreating me in that manner.
Well those are some short life's experiences with a scorp and the rest I'll keep to myself because that would be to long and all I can tell you is brace yourself.
My cousin who is a Libra is wondering the same about them because she fell for one. Like I told her I will tell you to brace yourself. They are high maintanence very complex and can be dominant in stealthy ways.
That is all I can say and whatever you choose to do it is your choice and decission.
Sukutai.
Well those are some short life's experiences with a scorp and the rest I'll keep to myself because that would be to long and all I can tell you is brace yourself.
My cousin who is a Libra is wondering the same about them because she fell for one. Like I told her I will tell you to brace yourself. They are high maintanence very complex and can be dominant in stealthy ways.
That is all I can say and whatever you choose to do it is your choice and decission.
Sukutai.
We bought our first car together which I payed the inssurance and the taxes for the car afterall I was making more money than him as a student anyway. He had a car accident and the car was declared total loss. The insurance money went to his bank account and me oh well I never saw a penny of that money. Fine we got a second car and by that time we moved to a nice little village and this time the house was mine. Again the same crap only when I decided to pull the plug on the relationship he decided that he needed to keep the car and I do not deserve to get any money for my expenditures because I would not pay him out for helping decorate the house. He took a suitcase that cost me ?300 euro's at that time a couch that was ?500 and a few of my other things. I asked for my belongings and he told me that I am not worth crap. I told him he could keep them because that is all he would ever have in his life anyway I will get better and I hoped they'd rot in his a $ $ .
During our student years he joined several networkmarketing organisations and I supported him in all his ventures. He would discuss about how much money he could earn by selling products to my network of friends and the little friends he had. He did not care about these people he only saw how he could get rich quick. Eventually I told him I cannot go out scamming my friends because you want to get money and with that said there followed a shower of insults. Talk about getting ahead by using people weather their dead or alive. He tried to use because I am very opened and attract people to me easily unlike him. Though people flock to me iit does not necessarily mean that they are my friends but he didn't care as long as they would buy from him. Through me he found ways to socialize with others.
When I finally told him to get the he11 out of my house he let know that he wasn't going anywhere. I then lost my job and he flipped because he did not want to pay for anything when I told him well I'll be going on wellfare now. He left a few days later. I was completely broke, no money, no way to pay my bills and didn't know what I was to do next with a sick cat he left me with who needed special medical care. Believe it or not he was still pulling money out of me after he left.
Well that is what I can give you but that is my experience with a scorpion and honestly I never want another scorpion in my life ever again! Somehow they always come running to me guess I look like the perfect prey.
During our student years he joined several networkmarketing organisations and I supported him in all his ventures. He would discuss about how much money he could earn by selling products to my network of friends and the little friends he had. He did not care about these people he only saw how he could get rich quick. Eventually I told him I cannot go out scamming my friends because you want to get money and with that said there followed a shower of insults. Talk about getting ahead by using people weather their dead or alive. He tried to use because I am very opened and attract people to me easily unlike him. Though people flock to me iit does not necessarily mean that they are my friends but he didn't care as long as they would buy from him. Through me he found ways to socialize with others.
When I finally told him to get the he11 out of my house he let know that he wasn't going anywhere. I then lost my job and he flipped because he did not want to pay for anything when I told him well I'll be going on wellfare now. He left a few days later. I was completely broke, no money, no way to pay my bills and didn't know what I was to do next with a sick cat he left me with who needed special medical care. Believe it or not he was still pulling money out of me after he left.
Well that is what I can give you but that is my experience with a scorpion and honestly I never want another scorpion in my life ever again! Somehow they always come running to me guess I look like the perfect prey.
Well I'm happy to be of some help in some way to you. But everyone's experience is different so do keep that in mind. I liked your following setence. I tend to try and focus on a person and not just the sign in order to pass a judgement.
"I have a very strong self and can be sassy even though I can't help but being feminine and tender in his presence."
Being sassy and having a strong personality is exactly what draws them to you. They love a woman who they think has a strong awareness. They find mystery is something to be unravelled, so having a strong self is a great upportunity to research your weaknesses because a woman can't seem to be as strong as she is.
Talk about complexity hmmmm you'll have that all in one package.
A real life's example girl you got me digging in my past now.
When I met him I was 16 turning seventeen, I came from a household full of turbulance. At fifteen I left home and was fending for myself and pushed myself through school. He found it amazing that I had no kids and was focused on achieving my goals and dreams. (a pure cappy) Yet he questioned where I came from and who am I really because I'm so young and filled with ambitions. So telling him where I came from, how I grew up seemed like an innocent detail of my life not knowing that years later he would use it to strip me of my identity and my self worth. He told me often that when he met me I was nothing and thank God for him I have sufficient courage to at least try and do something with my life. Cunning isn't it?
When we got in arguments or better said fights and he was wrong he would appologise for what he said and you could swear he meant it but two days later he retracts everything he said and let me know he lied because I'm not worth it.
During our college/university years we both held steady parttime jobs. I worked in a hospital and he was a mail man. I lived in his house because hey we were both in a foreign country and we tried to make ends meet together. He would come to me making up all sorts of expenses that had to be covered and let me know I did not pay the half of my bill. When my dad died I inherited money but he found all ways to see what I could pay for next. Me naive and don't care much for money just give him what he wanted to avoid him getting nasty with me. whew long isn't it?
"I have a very strong self and can be sassy even though I can't help but being feminine and tender in his presence."
Being sassy and having a strong personality is exactly what draws them to you. They love a woman who they think has a strong awareness. They find mystery is something to be unravelled, so having a strong self is a great upportunity to research your weaknesses because a woman can't seem to be as strong as she is.
Talk about complexity hmmmm you'll have that all in one package.
A real life's example girl you got me digging in my past now.
When I met him I was 16 turning seventeen, I came from a household full of turbulance. At fifteen I left home and was fending for myself and pushed myself through school. He found it amazing that I had no kids and was focused on achieving my goals and dreams. (a pure cappy) Yet he questioned where I came from and who am I really because I'm so young and filled with ambitions. So telling him where I came from, how I grew up seemed like an innocent detail of my life not knowing that years later he would use it to strip me of my identity and my self worth. He told me often that when he met me I was nothing and thank God for him I have sufficient courage to at least try and do something with my life. Cunning isn't it?
When we got in arguments or better said fights and he was wrong he would appologise for what he said and you could swear he meant it but two days later he retracts everything he said and let me know he lied because I'm not worth it.
During our college/university years we both held steady parttime jobs. I worked in a hospital and he was a mail man. I lived in his house because hey we were both in a foreign country and we tried to make ends meet together. He would come to me making up all sorts of expenses that had to be covered and let me know I did not pay the half of my bill. When my dad died I inherited money but he found all ways to see what I could pay for next. Me naive and don't care much for money just give him what he wanted to avoid him getting nasty with me. whew long isn't it?
To answer your wuestion:
"Btw, did your scorp man respect you and your needs in the beginning of your relationship and he changed after a few years together? I am seeing a scrop man and he is sweet and considerate so far as long as i communicate gently and clearly of what i want or what's bothering me."
He had a certain extent of respect (in the beginning and in public). The thing is that they have the tendencies of going into quiet modes and that means that they do not wish to communicate with you or anyone for that matter. They love sex in the most bizarre ways. They store everything up that they do not like about you and once you are submisive to them they use the whole past against you to make you pay for your mistakes and you will succumb to guilt. Though they give you freedom to go your own way, on that perspective they are not dominant but they dominate in a different way. The star sign as a scorpion messures up to it's name. They are poisonous in a very stealthy way. They prefer to communicate on an intellectual level and are forever seeking ways to get ahead by using people as their resources and that is not quite obvious to others because they seem to be very friendly and polite. Only thing I can tell you is to brace yourself and be the leader of your own life in all aspects or else they'll sting you till there's no life left in you.
That is my experience with a scorpion and heard quite similar experiences from others in my surroundings who also had steady relationships with scorpion men.
I hope this helps,
"Btw, did your scorp man respect you and your needs in the beginning of your relationship and he changed after a few years together? I am seeing a scrop man and he is sweet and considerate so far as long as i communicate gently and clearly of what i want or what's bothering me."
He had a certain extent of respect (in the beginning and in public). The thing is that they have the tendencies of going into quiet modes and that means that they do not wish to communicate with you or anyone for that matter. They love sex in the most bizarre ways. They store everything up that they do not like about you and once you are submisive to them they use the whole past against you to make you pay for your mistakes and you will succumb to guilt. Though they give you freedom to go your own way, on that perspective they are not dominant but they dominate in a different way. The star sign as a scorpion messures up to it's name. They are poisonous in a very stealthy way. They prefer to communicate on an intellectual level and are forever seeking ways to get ahead by using people as their resources and that is not quite obvious to others because they seem to be very friendly and polite. Only thing I can tell you is to brace yourself and be the leader of your own life in all aspects or else they'll sting you till there's no life left in you.
That is my experience with a scorpion and heard quite similar experiences from others in my surroundings who also had steady relationships with scorpion men.
I hope this helps,
You know sagigoat, you make a great point.
It is true that my selfworth and self respect was way waaayyyy down under. I commited myself too young, I just turned seventeen and unexperienced. In the beginning it was kind of rocky and I kept breaking up with him but he just kept on persuing me. So when a scorp knows what he wants he runs after it and eventually he got me. The first couple of years and to be precise two years were wonderful but eventually he manipulated me, degraded me, emptied my bank account and took advantage of me against my will and he loved playing psychological games. And all I am now telling isn't even half of the story not even close. Actually I was young stupid, naive and unexperienced. So yes I had no self worth and felt less of a woman or a person when I was with him. When I cheated I told him that I was going to cheat with the hope that he would break it off but he never did. Instead he tried to punish me for but it back fired on him which almost made him lose his mind.
It is true that my selfworth and self respect was way waaayyyy down under. I commited myself too young, I just turned seventeen and unexperienced. In the beginning it was kind of rocky and I kept breaking up with him but he just kept on persuing me. So when a scorp knows what he wants he runs after it and eventually he got me. The first couple of years and to be precise two years were wonderful but eventually he manipulated me, degraded me, emptied my bank account and took advantage of me against my will and he loved playing psychological games. And all I am now telling isn't even half of the story not even close. Actually I was young stupid, naive and unexperienced. So yes I had no self worth and felt less of a woman or a person when I was with him. When I cheated I told him that I was going to cheat with the hope that he would break it off but he never did. Instead he tried to punish me for but it back fired on him which almost made him lose his mind.
fair
That's funny though,
Cause we both agreed on being friends ok fine. We had dinner at my place that night and spoke about not getting entwined but we had sex again that eveing after he initiated that he wanted to have sex with me. He slept over at my place that night, woke up in the morning and started stroking me again and like I could not resist I give in and we had sex that morning again. We had a lovely breakfast and then all of a sudden he had to run home so I just let him go.(he was suddenly in a hurry)
Told me later that week that he needed time to think things through for himself.
After that I didn't see him again but he called me every other day to check up on me and a week later he left for England to visit his family there. He returned (to the Netherlands)a week and a half later and in the week that he was not here I finally realised that I have fallen for this guy. I am now taking my distance and will not call him anymore nor do I want to see him for now. He knows what turns me on and everytime he sees he plays on that. I cannot bear the fact that the feelings are not mutual and may never be mutual. Why can't one ever choose who they fall in love with? This is not fear!
Cause we both agreed on being friends ok fine. We had dinner at my place that night and spoke about not getting entwined but we had sex again that eveing after he initiated that he wanted to have sex with me. He slept over at my place that night, woke up in the morning and started stroking me again and like I could not resist I give in and we had sex that morning again. We had a lovely breakfast and then all of a sudden he had to run home so I just let him go.(he was suddenly in a hurry)
Told me later that week that he needed time to think things through for himself.
After that I didn't see him again but he called me every other day to check up on me and a week later he left for England to visit his family there. He returned (to the Netherlands)a week and a half later and in the week that he was not here I finally realised that I have fallen for this guy. I am now taking my distance and will not call him anymore nor do I want to see him for now. He knows what turns me on and everytime he sees he plays on that. I cannot bear the fact that the feelings are not mutual and may never be mutual. Why can't one ever choose who they fall in love with? This is not fear!
I know I know it's an old post but I will respond anyway. (just killing time)
I was with a scorp man for 10 years. After five years of the relationship I kept trying to please him in all ways. He ignored me and though we lived together I was always lonley and he had no respect for my body. But still I thought he would change and he never did. In the eighth year I got tired of it and not to mention he continuously insulted me, put me down and let me know I was a worthless piece of shit, when he saw me crying because I was mourning the death of my father who died one year earlier. So I met someone and I told my ex that I would have sex with this other man afterall it's my pu $ $ y and I'll do what I want with it. He totally flipped because I was his territory, oh well I cheated on him twice with the same person and never felt sorry for cheating either.(not that the other person was worth but I did anyway)
So yes capricorn women do cheat if the relationship is not satisfactory and eventually they leave because they still always want to try and salvage their relationship. If the partner or spouse is not willing to work with them, oh well he is history anyway. Once that door is closed though she is not turning back, afterall it is considered a waste of effort investing in a dead relationship.
In a healthy relationship she is loyal and faithful to her partner and would do anything to please him/her and she would work hard to give her partner the world and the best that life has to offer.
I was with a scorp man for 10 years. After five years of the relationship I kept trying to please him in all ways. He ignored me and though we lived together I was always lonley and he had no respect for my body. But still I thought he would change and he never did. In the eighth year I got tired of it and not to mention he continuously insulted me, put me down and let me know I was a worthless piece of shit, when he saw me crying because I was mourning the death of my father who died one year earlier. So I met someone and I told my ex that I would have sex with this other man afterall it's my pu $ $ y and I'll do what I want with it. He totally flipped because I was his territory, oh well I cheated on him twice with the same person and never felt sorry for cheating either.(not that the other person was worth but I did anyway)
So yes capricorn women do cheat if the relationship is not satisfactory and eventually they leave because they still always want to try and salvage their relationship. If the partner or spouse is not willing to work with them, oh well he is history anyway. Once that door is closed though she is not turning back, afterall it is considered a waste of effort investing in a dead relationship.
In a healthy relationship she is loyal and faithful to her partner and would do anything to please him/her and she would work hard to give her partner the world and the best that life has to offer.
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