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Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0 SunLibra10.10 AscendantVirgo24.42 MoonCapricorn25.11 IILibra17.27 MercuryLibra4.19 IIIScorpio16.44 VenusScorpio9.14 IVSagittarius22.55 MarsSagittarius28.36 VCapricorn29.58 JupiterC
Zodiac in degrees 0.00 Placidus Orb:0 SunLibra10.10 AscendantVirgo24.42 MoonCapricorn25.11 IILibra17.27 MercuryLibra4.19 IIIScorpio16.44 VenusScorpio9.14 IVSagittarius22.55 MarsSagittarius28.36 VCapricorn29.58 JupiterCapricorn4.56 VIPisces0.35 SaturnScorpio14.35 VIIPisces24.42 UranusSagittarius10.26 VIIIAries17.27 NeptuneSagittarius28.49 IXTaurus16.44 PlutoScorpio1.12 MidheavenGemini22.55 Lilith Aries 3.01 XICancer29.58 Asc nodeTaurus28.24 XIIVirgo0.35
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Happy birthday fellow librans...anyone else on the 3rd?
I didn't expect this reaction but I needed it. I know my friends have said the same things but I didn't want to listen, I keep looking at astrology for answers and excuses.
I'm going to cancel on him and listen to advice from wiser people. I did fine without him before so I will be fine now, but I just got my hopes up when he reached out you see.
Thanks
What was funny about it?
Posted by DMV
I used to date this saggie with a venus in cap and saturn in the 7th. I am a venus in cap and inhave venus sq saturn. He was very insecure. He he would do alot of the things your cappy does to you. Trust, it will get worse.
I finally had enough of his antics. Hes manipulating you. Your like a game to him. This is the psuh pull to extreme with a very intelligent person. Cunning even.
Like your problem child, he would always give a little bit more progress each and every time. Make you think he just needs more time.
Fuck that. You deserve better. Dont settle.


Its funny you used the word cunning, thats what someone from his area used to describe him. I dunno, maybe I am just believing and seeing what I want to.
I thought I was clued on but feel like a fool. So glad I made this thread, i keep thinking he's the one and can be idealistic.
Its true, Im not his therapist but I just dont think he has had anyone understand him because people think hes cold and heartless; plus I feel he wants to help me the same too
Yesterday he called me during my lunch and played 'we belong together' by mariah carey, he actually made me listen to this part as he played it down the phone from his car:
didn't mean it when I said I didn't love you so
I should've held on tight, I never should've let you go
I didn't know nothing, I was stupid, I was foolish
I was lying to myself
I could not fathom I would ever be without your love
Never imagined I'd be sitting here beside myself
'Cause I didn't know you, 'cause I didn't know me
But I thought I knew everything
I've never fail
I was really shocked but I do feel that is his way of saying sorry and expressing how he feels. I didnt even know he listened to this type of music. I didnt even think he would call as much but it feels like after everything has happened he finally believes my feelings are real. To me it is a big deal that he played that song because he used to ignore me and express no emotions and is just so stoic, so to play that meant alot.
But taking on board all the comments I will tread carefully, i really do want kids and i will give it my all, i think he is doing that too. If he reverted to his spitefulness I would walk away, and i did in the past.
Posted by SpiceNSugar
Posted by SpiceNSugar
His Pluto conjunct your Sun:
http://www.cafeastrology.com/synastry/sun_pluto_aspects.html

http://www.theastrologyplace.uk/2011/02/sun-pluto-in-synastry.html


This aspect in synastry is karmic and is the source of your obsessive/compulsive attraction to one another. Make no mistake though, Pluto will always have the upper hand.
click to expand


Thanks for your help.
But because it a 9 degree conjunction, is it still applicable? Also, we have pluto square sun and pluto square mars and I am the pluto and its around 2 degrees, does that equal out the power?
He also opened up to me about his childhood and how poor his family was, that they couldnt even afford school uniform etc. He had issues with his speech like stammering and stuttering as a child. Like he hasnt had an easy life either, he's had issues with drugs and opened up to me too. I feel like none of us judge the other, over time its like the feelings have become unconditional.
But as I said before, my interpretation may be wrong and he could actually be calculated and working on my weaknesses and just stringing me along. But I just cant imagine someone being that mean?
So far from people's comments, even though I find it hard accepting, it looks like the latter.
Thanks for your feedback
Posted by CluelessCancer
Stockholm Syndrome. I contributed to him treating me like sheet.
omg, did you're father beat you or your mother as a child, did you grow up in an abusive household...???


Yeah there was some abuse in my childhood but that was resolved and I forget the past rather than let it define me.
Shall i tell you what made me bond with him more than anyone? He recognised that there was something up from my earlier years and asked me to open up to him. In the past my own family members denied things, minimized things, my own friends didnt really understand and I learnt to just deny anything because no one wanted to know and I didnt want make a fuss or talk like a victim. I had one boyfriend before cap who was a scorpio and when i began opening up to him he also shut me down and said not to talk about it.
Then I met cap, I never mentioned anything about any issues from my childhood, by that point I was in total denial and learned to forget it, but HE kept asking me to open up, he said many times 'open up to me yas, share anything with me, I will help you'. I still denied and said my life had been great as a child, I didnt realise but I did have a wall up but cap persisted. Anyway one day in an argument I got very emotional and my 'stuff' came out, and he didnt reject me, he taught me to be strong and that I didnt deserve what happened. No one, not even my own mother ever talked about this 'thing', but cap did. Somehow, through the cap, I resolved many of my issues because I stopped blaming myself. He even said yesteday that he loves me and have a good heart. This is why I love him, he accepts me fully and helped me realise to stop blaming myself.
I hope I dont sound like an idiot revealing too much or trying to make people feel sorry for me, Im not, i have a good life and everything but I have had many positive changes through him.
Posted by CluelessCancer
Is it your religion that makes you this pliant and submissive, do you think that you're not a good woman, if you don't take a man's abuse...
i know you, i've seen you before, this is all cultural BS.
don't do that to yourself.


I remember you made some helpful points last time when I made a thread about him. I dont think how I am is related to my religion. I will admit my self esteem was not good in the past, but I think I have strong self esteem now.
I am taking everyone's comments on board, it is making me think at maybe how I come across.
Also, let me add more to the story.
Last night he called me, i didnt even ask him to apologise like i mentioned in my thread but he told me that he is truly sorry and called himself a dkhead and that he wants to see me on my bday coming up and the week after too. Even the last time we met and all that stuff that happened with my phone, prior to him going to my phone he was really sweet that day, like spoiling me and not letting me pay even when I left money at the counter and even when we went to eat his friend called him, he answered and started saying how he's having a good time with yas and that I'm not eating enough.
Maybe what I am trying to say is that I see effort in him and over time as we have got closer and got through many misunderstandings, I see him trying. He doesnt pressure me to be physical (he did at the start) and respects me, we only kiss. I feel like its been hard work but we're getting there. Do I still sound crazy? I'm not trying to make excuses but just explaining why I am still here.
Posted by caliber
omfg... i can't with these kinds of threads anymore. stop with the fairy-tale love story already. that shit does NOT exist. it's all made up in your head.
woman. your attitude about his behavior is pathetic. the saddest part is you know what he's doing and yet you still allow him to be a scumbag to you. you want sympathy? yeah, not gonna happen.
if a man loves you, he doesn't treat you like shit, play head games with you, make you feel like you're less of a person, text your friends out of spite, or use you like a fucking yo-yo. realize this. have some self respect, and walk away with whatever dignity you have left.



I didnt want sympathy but appreciate your honesty.
I am not being emotionally abused. What I was trying to say that yes he has been mean to me and I highlighted how low he stooped because I would never do that to him, but also, I am not perfect, maybe at time I pushed him away but through all of the ups and downs he seems like he wants to make it work.
What I wanted to find out from caps was, after all the ups and downs, if he can really see my feelings as true and genuinely wants to make it work properly and that our love did stand the test of time OR, if there is a chance these thoughts dont even cross his mind and that he is just stringing me along because he knows I love him?
Posted by NotYourAverageAquarius
Why are you letting the way he's treating you slide? Stop letting him emotional abuse you.
His hyper sensitivity is not your problem and it's not your fault he is hurt IF HE EVEN IS...


I think as a venus in scorpio, I can handle it. People who hurt others are normally hurting themselves, I dont want him to hurt. But his treatment has got better over time, most importantly, right now, he is nice, I feel like after all this if we are still in contact it must mean something?

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