Third party personal horoscope without permission
This topic was created in the Astrology forum by DawnMan on Thursday, July 2, 2020 and has 47 replies.
I am seeing someone in the last 3 months, she knew my date and rough birth time. She used this info with a friend astrologer to get a personal horoscope about a topic I am dealing with and at some point told me the info (which I later realised based on my birth info including the birth time).
I don't feel comfortable about this. Especially that I told her that I normally do not tell my birthdate (without saying specifically not to use it).
Do you think she and the astrologer acted wrongly here by doing my personal horoscope without permission? and if so, what would be the best way to handle this with both of them? (I do not know the astrologer personally)
I don't feel comfortable about this. Especially that I told her that I normally do not tell my birthdate (without saying specifically not to use it).
Do you think she and the astrologer acted wrongly here by doing my personal horoscope without permission? and if so, what would be the best way to handle this with both of them? (I do not know the astrologer personally)
My gut feeling telling me she wants to find out a lot about you. That sound like a set up to me. I think your intuition should hint to you something weird about that too. You bucked up giving her all your birth info's. The first thing I would have done was ask why you wanna know (especially the time of birth thing). My suspicions would have grew more and more intense.
Lastly, did she even asked for all of this when y'all first met or did you just up and give her your birth info?
Lastly, did she even asked for all of this when y'all first met or did you just up and give her your birth info?
OP you said you only been seeing her for 3 months, so if you don't like what she did just dump her. Me personally I would be thankful she's trying to help out in the situation and my lib sun would try to 1 up the kind gesture.
She should have asked you first
She’s crossing a boundary line...
She’s crossing a boundary line...
She was trying to help. She might have thought you trusted her with this information so she felt comfortable proceeding.
You telling her that normally you don't tell people your date of birth could make her infer that you trusted her and she took liberties thinking that you trusted her to do so. Ask her what other identifying information she gave to the astrologer. Also, this astrologer is her friend.
If I'm dating a woman and she's talking to her friends about me, I trust that she'll be careful about what she tells them, with the understanding that she's going to confide to them about stuff like sex, money, relationship problems, etc...
She knows you're dealing with something and she turned to a friend to help. Use your words and tell her how you feel about it. If she crosses clear boundaries in the future then she's not respecting you or them.
Re: This boundary
You decide what your boundary is. The only way I'd be concerned would be if another person was sharing my personal information with others, even with online astrological reports. Things like last name, address, first name depending on the situation, etc.
Finally, how is she supposed to know that this bothered you if you don't tell her?
You telling her that normally you don't tell people your date of birth could make her infer that you trusted her and she took liberties thinking that you trusted her to do so. Ask her what other identifying information she gave to the astrologer. Also, this astrologer is her friend.
If I'm dating a woman and she's talking to her friends about me, I trust that she'll be careful about what she tells them, with the understanding that she's going to confide to them about stuff like sex, money, relationship problems, etc...
She knows you're dealing with something and she turned to a friend to help. Use your words and tell her how you feel about it. If she crosses clear boundaries in the future then she's not respecting you or them.
Re: This boundary
You decide what your boundary is. The only way I'd be concerned would be if another person was sharing my personal information with others, even with online astrological reports. Things like last name, address, first name depending on the situation, etc.
Finally, how is she supposed to know that this bothered you if you don't tell her?
She’s obviously invested and interested in you. Idk why that’s a bad thing when your dating her and interested in her as well.
The irony of coming to an astrology site to ask if running a chart is wrong. This thread has troll vibes all over it.
The irony of coming to an astrology site to ask if running a chart is wrong. This thread has troll vibes all over it.
Posted by sagaciouscorpPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by sagaciouscorp
He’s lucky it’s not me
I’ll google ur name BtW public records all in the open n learn all before I decide to get with u.
Honestly this.
You should google yourself and see how much of your info is out there.
Right birthdate, criminal bankruptcy records. Ur lucky she even asked you lol I’d get that info without asking lol all public my dear and it’s not stalking it’s investigation lol I want to know if u married with kids an all lolclick to expand
😅😂😳
Posted by DawnMan
I am seeing someone in the last 3 months, she knew my date and rough birth time. She used this info with a friend astrologer to get a personal horoscope about a topic I am dealing with and at some point told me the info (which I later realised based on my birth info including the birth time).
I don't feel comfortable about this. Especially that I told her that I normally do not tell my birthdate (without saying specifically not to use it).
Do you think she and the astrologer acted wrongly here by doing my personal horoscope without permission? and if so, what would be the best way to handle this with both of them? (I do not know the astrologer personally)
You should do the same, enter her data on a birthchart. Level up the playing field.
Posted by sagaciouscorpWrong! I don't even know how to do synastry. And when I wanna analyse someone's chart I ask to post their chart first and foremost.
Oh common Hippocrates. All u here in this astrology forum have run synastry charts without permission
Posted by LittleStar_IIIf he had been clear, than yes. But he mentioned that he wasn't specific in his op and all he said was 'I don't normally tell my birthdate'. But he told her, and didn't clarify that this sort of thing made him uncomfortable.Posted by LadyNeptune
She’s obviously invested and interested in you. Idk why that’s a bad thing when your dating her and interested in her as well.
The irony of coming to an astrology site to ask if running a chart is wrong. This thread has troll vibes all over it.
Yeah but wouldn’t respecting boundaries be the real way of showing you are interested/invested in someone?
Even if it’s not important to you if you know someone you care about has a really strong opinion on something you would want to follow that, right?
Otherwise it seems like self-interest.click to expand
If anything the language he used implied that he was giving her permission because she was outside of the 'norm' since he gave her the info.
Now if he expressed that he was uncomfortable with this sort of thing and THEN she proceeded with making birth charts and discussing with astrologers, then maybe he would have a leg to stand on. But as it stands, since he didn't define his boundaries how would she know she's crossed them unless he opens his mouth and communicates.
Posted by Black-MambaMy initial thoughts. Its only been 3 months so if your already looking for ways to be offended and exit the relationship, then do.
This person is so close-minded if he's willing to throw a relationship cause she looked into his birth chart
good god I wonder what else he can't handle in life
are you a virgo, you're probably a serial killer?
No need to get internet strangers validation. Just cut her loose and onto the next.
Posted by sagaciouscorpI'm a gem as in being analytical? Or a gem as a Gemini? I'm just curious cus if it's the latter Geminis are smart when it comes to synastry. I'm just....well you can probably say slow and dumb.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by sagaciouscorp
Oh common Hippocrates. All u here in this astrology forum have run synastry charts without permission
Wrong! I don't even know how to do synastry. And when I wanna analyse someone's chart I ask to post their chart first and foremost.
Your a gemclick to expand
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
Usually astrologers only use your first name and DOB. But since the astrologer is a friend, they may get to know your full name.
It doesn't mean that your full name and DOB will be found online, or even on the astrologer's computer, though.
It's OK to get the astrologer's phone number and ask them to delete your name and DOB, if you feel uncomfortable about it.
It doesn't mean that your full name and DOB will be found online, or even on the astrologer's computer, though.
It's OK to get the astrologer's phone number and ask them to delete your name and DOB, if you feel uncomfortable about it.
when she asked for your birth info did she mention why?
it does sound intrusive. she should have asked before sharing it with someone else.
it does sound intrusive. she should have asked before sharing it with someone else.
you didn't give consent OP
Posted by Jumpin_Jupitershe did not ask me, I told her, including rough birth time as it is reflected in my name (dawn)
My gut feeling telling me she wants to find out a lot about you. That sound like a set up to me. I think your intuition should hint to you something weird about that too. You bucked up giving her all your birth info's. The first thing I would have done was ask why you wanna know (especially the time of birth thing). My suspicions would have grew more and more intense.
Lastly, did she even asked for all of this when y'all first met or did you just up and give her your birth info?
what do u mean by setup?
Posted by exoskeleton_I told it from my own will in some context i do not remember (like my birthday was few days ago), also said the rough time of birth as it is reflected in my name (dawn)
when she asked for your birth info did she mention why?
it does sound intrusive. she should have asked before sharing it with someone else.
Posted by Undineas far as I know if it was a friend, done on the phone, I am less concerned about this going public, but more the act itself or potentially doing it again
Usually astrologers only use your first name and DOB. But since the astrologer is a friend, they may get to know your full name.
It doesn't mean that your full name and DOB will be found online, or even on the astrologer's computer, though.
It's OK to get the astrologer's phone number and ask them to delete your name and DOB, if you feel uncomfortable about it.
Posted by Isoldeit is not. why do u think so??
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
Posted by LibraSupremei do not want to jump into something so harsh. i think it is too extreme but the question is what to do and what is the meaning of this. it is also separate for astrologer and the friend
OP you said you only been seeing her for 3 months, so if you don't like what she did just dump her. Me personally I would be thankful she's trying to help out in the situation and my lib sun would try to 1 up the kind gesture.
Posted by sagaciouscorpwhat is synastry charts? is it personal chart based on someone private details including time of birth? if it is done so much does it make it ok? i would also separate from hobby reader to proffesional
Oh common Hippocrates. All u here in this astrology forum have run synastry charts without permission
Posted by Piscis_Hominisif I told her that I usually do not tell to anyone, it should at least raise doubt if i am ok with it and therefore asking might be warranted.
She was trying to help. She might have thought you trusted her with this information so she felt comfortable proceeding.
You telling her that normally you don't tell people your date of birth could make her infer that you trusted her and she took liberties thinking that you trusted her to do so. Ask her what other identifying information she gave to the astrologer. Also, this astrologer is her friend.
If I'm dating a woman and she's talking to her friends about me, I trust that she'll be careful about what she tells them, with the understanding that she's going to confide to them about stuff like sex, money, relationship problems, etc...
She knows you're dealing with something and she turned to a friend to help. Use your words and tell her how you feel about it. If she crosses clear boundaries in the future then she's not respecting you or them.
Re: This boundary
You decide what your boundary is. The only way I'd be concerned would be if another person was sharing my personal information with others, even with online astrological reports. Things like last name, address, first name depending on the situation, etc.
Finally, how is she supposed to know that this bothered you if you don't tell her?
she told her some things about my father. if the astrologer is her friend how does it make it ok??
it is not just about saying to someone info which I wanted to keep private, it is also the specific usage for astrology which i might be against to be used with my private info.
I told her now that it bothers me, but isn't it something she should have known ahead or at least check with me?
Posted by Piscis_Hominisif I told her that I usually do not tell to anyone, it should at least raise doubt if i am ok with it and therefore asking might be warranted.
She was trying to help. She might have thought you trusted her with this information so she felt comfortable proceeding.
You telling her that normally you don't tell people your date of birth could make her infer that you trusted her and she took liberties thinking that you trusted her to do so. Ask her what other identifying information she gave to the astrologer. Also, this astrologer is her friend.
If I'm dating a woman and she's talking to her friends about me, I trust that she'll be careful about what she tells them, with the understanding that she's going to confide to them about stuff like sex, money, relationship problems, etc...
She knows you're dealing with something and she turned to a friend to help. Use your words and tell her how you feel about it. If she crosses clear boundaries in the future then she's not respecting you or them.
Re: This boundary
You decide what your boundary is. The only way I'd be concerned would be if another person was sharing my personal information with others, even with online astrological reports. Things like last name, address, first name depending on the situation, etc.
Finally, how is she supposed to know that this bothered you if you don't tell her?
she told her some things about my father. if the astrologer is her friend how does it make it ok??
it is not just about saying to someone info which I wanted to keep private, it is also the specific usage for astrology which i might be against to be used with my private info.
I told her now that it bothers me, but isn't it something she should have known ahead or at least check with me?
Posted by PhoenixStormit is quite far, reading a general chart like this has nothing to do with creating a personal chart based on exact date and time
Is this the same as asking for somebody’s birthday to look up their chart without explaining why you’re asking for their birthday?🤔 if so I am guilty af 😬 like 100x over.
Was she a Scorpio? 😆
Posted by DawnManPlease forgive my ignorance I meant set up by bringing harm to you. We got some crazy women that's into astrology and take it very seriously who doesn't like people of certain signs. But since it's you that voluntarily gave your birth informations to her you're in the clear and in good hands.Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter
My gut feeling telling me she wants to find out a lot about you. That sound like a set up to me. I think your intuition should hint to you something weird about that too. You bucked up giving her all your birth info's. The first thing I would have done was ask why you wanna know (especially the time of birth thing). My suspicions would have grew more and more intense.
Lastly, did she even asked for all of this when y'all first met or did you just up and give her your birth info?
she did not ask me, I told her, including rough birth time as it is reflected in my name (dawn)
what do u mean by setup?click to expand
But on a serious note I'd probably been pissed off about someone sharing any information about me if I didn't give them permission to do so. That's an invasion of privacy. That's no different than some of these jackasses on this site posting other dxp users pictures without their consent is how I see that. And I say you bucked up (and notice I substitute f for a b in this case cus this is really how I talk in real life. I don't like to swear too much) by voluntarily giving her your birth info if the subject about it didn't come up. I mean I know somewhere down the line it'll eventually come up. Like I would just wait till that time come otherwise I would just keep quiet on that. But that's just me though.
Posted by LadyNeptuneI think you do not make the differentiation between checking a match between two dates to creating a personal chart with a personal interpretation of a third party. it is something different
She’s obviously invested and interested in you. Idk why that’s a bad thing when your dating her and interested in her as well.
The irony of coming to an astrology site to ask if running a chart is wrong. This thread has troll vibes all over it.
Posted by Black-Mambai did not consider that actually
This person is so close-minded if he's willing to throw a relationship cause she looked into his birth chart
good god I wonder what else he can't handle in life
are you a virgo, you're probably a serial killer?
Posted by Gobby
I think the issue here is that the woman the OP is seeing used a third-party without his consent. This isn't the same as the woman generating and analysing the chart herself.
@DawnMan, what's her sun sign? I'm guessing possibly fire...
no clue, I am not much into those signs and astrology
Posted by MrsElleCappysnatch
omg stop whining and get over yourself.
I am not whining. so u think this is ethical? how lovely
Posted by Aliensusedourbogroll
What’s the topic you’re dealing with? Maybe we can help, we’re really good with general advice here.
I wrote what is the issue I am dealing with....
Posted by DawnManPosted by Isolde
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
it is not. why do u think so??click to expand
This thread reeks of it, plus I don’t buy that your name is Dawn and that’s how the conversation went.
Wake up at the crack of dawn man and...
...either
1. Break up with her
2. Talk to her and break up with her
3. Talk to her and continue to date her
A real man...dawn man or noon man or dusk man...
...would talk to her and listen to her side and be fair in passing judgement, while being crystal clear about how he feels about it so that both you and her are on the same page.
...either
1. Break up with her
2. Talk to her and break up with her
3. Talk to her and continue to date her
A real man...dawn man or noon man or dusk man...
...would talk to her and listen to her side and be fair in passing judgement, while being crystal clear about how he feels about it so that both you and her are on the same page.
Posted by Isoldedawn is a nickname resembling my name and I can just conclude that your smelling sense got it all wrong. I might be in the wrong forum to ask it one might argue as people here do not put much value to the astrologers' ethics but that is fine, hearing that kind of point of view is ok.Posted by DawnManPosted by Isolde
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
it is not. why do u think so??
This thread reeks of it, plus I don’t buy that your name is Dawn and that’s how the conversation went.click to expand
Posted by LittleStar_IIPosted by GobbyPosted by DawnManPosted by Gobby
I think the issue here is that the woman the OP is seeing used a third-party without his consent. This isn't the same as the woman generating and analysing the chart herself.
@DawnMan, what's her sun sign? I'm guessing possibly fire...
no clue, I am not much into those signs and astrology
Dude, are you kidding me?! I suggest you find out ASAP or everyone's going to accuse you of being a troll...
*smh*
Yeah it’s bullshit.click to expand
I came here to get opinions not because i am into astrology.
Posted by LittleStar_IIFrom my understanding he's secretive about revealing his birthday. Which in a way I don't blame him. Tho it would be nice to know his sun sign at least. That's the question I think should be asked of him.Posted by DawnManPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by GobbyPosted by DawnManPosted by Gobby
I think the issue here is that the woman the OP is seeing used a third-party without his consent. This isn't the same as the woman generating and analysing the chart herself.
@DawnMan, what's her sun sign? I'm guessing possibly fire...
no clue, I am not much into those signs and astrology
Dude, are you kidding me?! I suggest you find out ASAP or everyone's going to accuse you of being a troll...
*smh*
Yeah it’s bullshit.
I came here to get opinions not because i am into astrology.
Tell us your birthday and hers then. 😈click to expand
Posted by tiziani
I said it was wrong and unethical yesterday, but if you were already decided on the answer then why make the thread?
you can't control what other people do but you can with your own choices. You got involved in a relationship with her, it's up to you.
i had my preconception about it - true.
but was open to hear another opinion that might convince me otherwise.
Aries
Posted by Jumpin_JupiterAriesPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by DawnManPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by GobbyPosted by DawnManPosted by Gobby
I think the issue here is that the woman the OP is seeing used a third-party without his consent. This isn't the same as the woman generating and analysing the chart herself.
@DawnMan, what's her sun sign? I'm guessing possibly fire...
no clue, I am not much into those signs and astrology
Dude, are you kidding me?! I suggest you find out ASAP or everyone's going to accuse you of being a troll...
*smh*
Yeah it’s bullshit.
I came here to get opinions not because i am into astrology.
Tell us your birthday and hers then. 😈
From my understanding he's secretive about revealing his birthday. Which in a way I don't blame him. Tho it would be nice to know his sun sign at least. That's the question I think should be asked of him.click to expand
Posted by Black-Mamba
I give you permission to eat my dick dawn
show it first and see if it is worth the effort
Posted by Black-Mamba
you make me want to puke dawn
you're a useless person dawn
why were you born dawn
to ask ppl retarded shit dawn
or just to troll dawn
go fuck yourself dawn
with a big fat pole dawn
😂😂
Is it poetry day 🤡
Posted by DawnManPosted by IsoldePosted by DawnManPosted by Isolde
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
it is not. why do u think so??
This thread reeks of it, plus I don’t buy that your name is Dawn and that’s how the conversation went.
dawn is a nickname resembling my name and I can just conclude that your smelling sense got it all wrong. I might be in the wrong forum to ask it one might argue as people here do not put much value to the astrologers' ethics but that is fine, hearing that kind of point of view is ok.click to expand
Look you’re posing an ethical question but you heard the word Astrologer so you came to this site.
You could’ve easily have asked that question to your friends and get a gauge on whether this is a comfortable norm? Considering online stalking provides more data on a person than astrology does.
If your looking for opinions then this site is full of people that would enquire ‘when is it too soon to ask for birth time and place?’ And all the clever tactics they use on dates to slide in that question.
Posted by tizianiPosted by IsoldePosted by DawnManPosted by IsoldePosted by DawnManPosted by Isolde
Ok, this is definitely a troll thread.
it is not. why do u think so??
This thread reeks of it, plus I don’t buy that your name is Dawn and that’s how the conversation went.
dawn is a nickname resembling my name and I can just conclude that your smelling sense got it all wrong. I might be in the wrong forum to ask it one might argue as people here do not put much value to the astrologers' ethics but that is fine, hearing that kind of point of view is ok.
Look you’re posing an ethical question but you heard the word Astrologer so you came to this site.
You could’ve easily have asked that question to your friends and get a gauge on whether this is a comfortable norm? Considering online stalking provides more data on a person than astrology does.
If your looking for opinions then this site is full of people that would enquire ‘when is it too soon to ask for birth time and place?’ And all the clever tactics they use on dates to slide in that question.
It's a question of astrology ethics though. At least I'm giving OP the benefit of the doubt when he mentioned it's a professional astrologer (meaning they agree not to do this), but today I'm looking at it like it's just a sympathy thread.click to expand
I’ve seen more intense deep search that some people do, going to astrologers, tarot and Psychic readers.
I’ve been on the receiving end of this many time myself but have asked them directly... I don’t like it and not to do it again. It’s really that simple.
Society in general is obsessed with acquiring data on people, voyeurism is trendy 😬
I would think someone is unhinged if they hired a private detective 😁 but that’s just me. The OP was looking for opinions, so I gave it.
Posted by DawnManPosted by Undine
Usually astrologers only use your first name and DOB. But since the astrologer is a friend, they may get to know your full name.
It doesn't mean that your full name and DOB will be found online, or even on the astrologer's computer, though.
It's OK to get the astrologer's phone number and ask them to delete your name and DOB, if you feel uncomfortable about it.
as far as I know if it was a friend, done on the phone, I am less concerned about this going public, but more the act itself or potentially doing it againclick to expand
If you don't believe in astrology, shouldn't the "act itself", of doing astrological readings about you, be meaningless....?
Or are you afraid she's going to get your criminal records next?
Girlfriend, if you see this, JUST DO IT...."Records can be ordered online and the results can be emailed to you. Searches are processed by an exact match of name and date of birth"
Posted by DawnManPosted by exoskeleton_
when she asked for your birth info did she mention why?
it does sound intrusive. she should have asked before sharing it with someone else.
I told it from my own will in some context i do not remember (like my birthday was few days ago), also said the rough time of birth as it is reflected in my name (dawn)click to expand
i see. we've all run people's charts before, but she actually went to someone and gave your information so it seems more invasive. though she likely doesn't have bad intentions, i would ask her to respect your privacy in the future.
cc wtf lmao
e> Posted by DawnManPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by DawnManPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by GobbyPosted by DawnManPosted by Gobby
I think the issue here is that the woman the OP is seeing used a third-party without his consent. This isn't the same as the woman generating and analysing the chart herself.
@DawnMan, what's her sun sign? I'm guessing possibly fire...
no clue, I am not much into those signs and astrology
Dude, are you kidding me?! I suggest you find out ASAP or everyone's going to accuse you of being a troll...
*smh*
Yeah it’s bullshit.
I came here to get opinions not because i am into astrology.
Tell us your birthday and hers then. 😈
From my understanding he's secretive about revealing his birthday. Which in a way I don't blame him. Tho it would be nice to know his sun sign at least. That's the question I think should be asked of him.
Ariesclick to expand
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