180 Degrees

This topic was created in the Aquarius forum by VirgowithalittleLibra on Thursday, February 1, 2007 and has 124 replies.
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No it wasn's a complete turn, it was a move made from one extreme to the other.
So here is the second part of my story for the ones who don't want to read.
So, I left it all here with the struggles me and my aqua girl had ever since we got back...
Well, things went very well after that. I had to forgive her give her faults and clueless moments give her a chance and we did spent New Year's eve together...although she did have her little mistakes here and there...I kept on looking at the big picture.
I had realized that I needed to be extra patient with her and that I had to respect her choices and privacy...even when her behavior seemed really suspicious to me.
She would do things like...spent the whole weekend w her parents (which she didn't use to do in the past) and would erase some message I left for her in her myspace page about a great night we had together or a great memory we had share...AND she didn't wanted to change her status from "single" to "in a relationship" because she said she wasn't ready to tell all her friends about our recovered relationship since we had a hard break-up last time.
So, as Virgo as I am, with my pickiness analytical ways and all...I did love this girl...someone mentioned the movie "Along came Polly"...she and I could relate to that in may ways, except that I'm not as dorky and anal as that one guy and she isn't as sweet as clueless ad that one girl always...
I forgave the fact that she wasn't open to everyone about our relationship...because I thought she needed time...and I was willing to wait until she was ready.
While doing this and improving our relationship so much this new year...one day she tells me that she had a bright idea...she wanted to move to my city to be closer to me...and work 3 times per week here and then go back to her city for the rest of the days...working in contracting basis and such.
I was shocked, because neither one of us was ready for moving in...but I said "cool, that would be awesome baby!".
So, I was planning to come here to tell you all about the great new...of how our relationship had been improving so much and how we were going to soon live together for a while...
Well, last week I began thinking, that maybe I could try a bit harder to be near her too...so I came up w the idea, which I soon shared with her, that maybe I could also move there if her moving her wouldn't work..and that I'd mind telecoming to work for few months to give it a try...(continued)
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Hey VLL

We are very private, I dont like when people put personal things on my myspace/facebook wall wall. I usually save them some place else,, but delete them off the wall. If I figure its too personal and dont want anyone else in my business thats what i'll do. Thinking about makes me realize why a certain cancer guy was upset with me when I did it to him. The message s fine, you are fine...but the place is NOT fine.
Nor do I want to display my relationship for the world to see on the inernet. Its just something I wont do...and im guessing she feels the same way. When it comes to personal relationships, we could be worst than scorps smile
Im happy to see she's making an effort though. Good things come to those who wait...patience is definitely key with aquas. Good luck with her and hope its not too soon for the two of you to live together...Mind you thats a BIG step. s dont sweat the small stuff so much (although you are a virgo smile) and keep looking at the big picture.

TTYL smile
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I have a house here that I was planning to sell and so I thought about renting a place here in my city and another one over there (we live 2 hours apart) so I could stay here during the week and then drive there over the weekends...since one of the major problems she had...was scheduling time to see me...because of the distance, she would say.
So, I share these news with her at the end of last week...she seemed okay to hear that.
She was supposed to come here before, but then she decided to see her parents again instead...which I was okay with but kind of sad, since she rarely had time off from work on the weekends and that is my only and preferred free time...but I said, "as long as we talk a lot this weekend baby, I'll be allright, so I don't miss you as much..."
She said "I promise we will".
Part of the reason why I had problems w her spending so much time w her parents lately was because after adding up all the facts of her 'hiding' our relationship at times, I had to admit...I was a bit concerns some few times...but then I remembered how much she said she loved me and how much we had been sharing and planning...so that was were my focus was placed at...not the little things, but the big picture we had at hand...
The weekend arrives, and the first day...she texted me, but couldn talk over the phone...at night I get one text from a movie she was watching w her mom...and then I don't hear from her again until the next day in the afternoon...and only for few minutes, since she said her parents were in a hurry...I tell her that it would nice if at least we could say good night to each other while we travel, as opposed to simply never responding at nights when she was in that city...and she agrees.
That same night, I don't get any calls but only one texf message, saying she was going to be again (like on Friday) at 10 pm and that the next day we could talk as much as wanted to....the message was misspelled, which she usually never does unless she is ina hurry, but I say oh well...I text her back saying if she could at least text me briefly about her day...I sent this inmediately after she had sent me the first message...and nnothing at all...at this point I feel concerned so I call...she doesn't answer either..which to me seems odd. She and I had had talked on the phone our first year together while she was at her parents house...but ever since we got back this time, it was as if that wasnt always impossoble to do (continued)
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phew....

Your really nice, i dont think you should sell the house yet.
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p.s. LadyM I haven't finished my story yet...there is more...but thank you for stopping by...miss reading you my friend!
anyhow...
oh yeah, so yes, she ignored my calls and text messages all week...even though I only send them to her when she initiates the communication and soon after she does that...so it was a bit weird.
Eventually on Saturday night, while she once again doesn't respond after 10 pm to let me know what she's up to...I go out with my buddies (she knows this).
At 1:30 am I get a call...from her...she sounds very awake, and tells me "she had just woken up" and was outside her parents house.
Now, why would she wake up at 1:30 to call me but not be able to respond to my message between 10 and 1 a.m.?
The next day she calls and I call her back...Mr. Patient was sort of going for a walk...so Mr. Confrontation came in...I had a nice, mature conversation w her about her dissapeance on the weekend...and tried to give her a chance to explain me why she could call back any of those times while she supposedly spent all weekend with her family.
She wanted to change the subject and got nervous...and it took a LONG time to admit...but she confessed that...she wanted to see our relationship as just "us" and that she and I had a different concept of "commitment"...that just because she accepted to be my girlfriend again (after she came back crying to me while I was in another relationship, mind you) and we were intimate and she said that she loves me...it didn't mean she was precisely ready for the commitment and responsability a monogamous realtionship involves...but that she wanted to be with me...
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I had to contain myself to not go crazy at that point in the conversation...but I was ready...I told her, I couldn't do it anymore, I had to break up with her...
I felt that through the weekend she was inconsiderate with keeping in touch w me...and I was very bothered by the fact that she had lied to me about her plans for the weekend (which she later apologized for but never told me why)...I had given her PLENTY of chances to come clean during all these months about needing time, and open-relationship, fears...to at least ensure she and I knew what we were getting into. She always said she wanted commitment and she wanted to work this with me...
Why would she back up now. Why would she say she was confused about the commitment we expected from each other?? I know she lied this weekend...she only said "I'm sorry" (continued)
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oh jeez...

going to class...will be back.
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and I went back into relating this one incident to so many times in the past, ever since we got back, and even before were I had an internal fear that she was lying to me about things she said she would do on the weekends...and lately things she said she would with her family in that city she visited so often lately...and to all that she only said "I'm sorry...I wanted this relationship to be somethin, but then it wasn't"
as if that would be enough of an excuse to lie or cheat...
I asked her if I had done something wrong lately to provoke all this...and she said "no".
And I was speechless...and then she said "I'm sorry" one more time...and I said..."No, I am sorry"...and we haven't spoken ever since...
I just couldn't put up with some many lies of all sizes. Is as if, she wanted to have a secret life...and she wanted to do whatever she wanted, with whoever she wanted, whenever she wanted...no matter who would get hurt...and how wrong that was.
I can't believe that she could lie to me SO much.
And how could she go from telling me that she wants to move here...and that she loves me...to I'm sorry that I had to lie to you...in a matter of two days??!
She sounded so cold when we talked...and although I was the one breaking up with her...I felt that I was the only who cared during the whole conversation.
I don't know why she sabotaged this relationship right now...when things were finally going so great...and I don't know who she is anymore...because if she did the things that I fear and she lied to me...I don't know that she is the same person I once loved.
I was so shocked and hurt during the conversation we had that I coulnd say all these things to her...I don't know if I should now...do you all think it's worth it, so at least she could know how much she hurted me this time? Or do think what she said was enough and she needs to learn this on her own...and never know the damage she has caused in my heart??
I just feel kinda sad rigth now. I don't understand whatever happened and who she is.
And of course, this may have nothing to with the signs, but just the type of person she is...because I met other aquas that are totally committed and in-love in front of the world..and she seemed to be like this at the beginning...I just don't know what to believe anymore...but I think I'm moving on...I'm tired of her ways...I don't even know that is worth for me to try to understand her ways...
VLL
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"dont sweat the small stuff so much (although you are a virgo ) and keep looking at the big picture."

-YES!!! that is what i have been telling vll all along! and especially when dating an aqua, YOU CANNOT SWEAT THE SMALL STUFF!!! everyone, remember that Winking
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"I don't even know that is worth for me to try to understand her ways..."
vll...it's not worth your time, effort or energy...you have put in more than enough in this relationship, and she gave you no respect back. you seem like way too good of a person to be with someone who doesn't even know what she wants.
you know what you want and you seem to be very happy with who you are...she does even know who she is as a person and she seems to have quite a few inner struggles. you two are at different standpoints in your lives. you deserve to be with someone who is at a similar place in life...don't you think?
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star...i wrote that before i red the entire post...my bad.
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hmmm...see, my aqua bf does the same kind of stuff once in a while...but certainly not every weekend. and he tells me that he is going out with the guys...but, i do wonder what he does when he is away sometimes... i know there are things that he still does that he knows i would not approve of, and so i am sure he hides them from me.
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well, star...i don't think he is cheating on me or doing anything horribly wrong... but i am sure he parties when with the guys, and does things that he knows i do not care for. basically, he is not completely grown up yet.
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lady m, starfish, and moonchild,
thank you for your comments.
lady m, looking forward to your opinion.
starfish, yep...i think she may be commitment-phone but it this point im so mad and dissapointed that nothing in my mind justifies her behavior...honesty and commitment are huge in bf/gf relationship for me...unless both people are only dating and are doing it openly...but that should be something discussed as opposed to assumed.
i don't know why i have a magnet for the bad-to-the-bone girls. thank you for your nice comments...i really think you are right about the different places we both are at...
moonchild, yeah buddy, same old same old...im kinda of tired of it all..like starfish said...i wouldn't be shock if my aqua comes back in a month or so again...but i need to stay strong...what she did isn't right. she is trying to excuse her behavior with any justification...but lying isn't going to flow with me...she should have been honest longer ago...and i still don't understand why she needed to hide her plans for the weekend from me...and why she thinks lying is ok.
she said with refernece to lying "i think i was honest with you for the most part..." as if that was enough of an excuse to lie...i didn't know what to say...
i wish i was more prepared to have that talk with her, that's why i was wondering if i should write her something...to let her see at least that what she did and thinks wasn't fair...
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star..i don't know if has anything to do with women really...well, i think he may still frequent some of the strip clubs around, which i don't care for and he knows it.
BUT...he likes to drink...a lot, and do other recreational substances Winking
and i used to dabble in a lot of that back in the day, but i am totally over it, and he knows that...so i think he often hides it from me.
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he has gotten a LOT better since we got back together 5 months ago...he used to go to the bar every day after work, and now he doesn't go after work at all.
and he doesn't drink as much as he used to at all...but he does other things when he is with his buddies...i have a feeling.
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it's not really something that is hidden b/c i know all about his past with substance abuse...but, he just doesn't tell me about everything he does now b/c he knows i don't like it. so it's not really hidden, it's just not discussed.
i am not going to tell him what to do, and as long as he does it when i am not around, well then it's not as big of a deal. he is going to learn on his own...hopefully!
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he has definitely gotten a lot better about a lot of things since we got back together 5 months ago...so, i think it just takes baby steps...not everything will change right away...and yes, he has to want to change his ways in order for it to happen.
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but, i do know that i have been a VERY positive influence in his life so far.
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Man, VLL, that is so depressing.
But let me tell you something about liars. Once you lie, you have to confess the lie or else cover it up with another lie. Before you know it, you're gonna be overflowing with lies!!
Yeah, hopefully she'll learn that lesson one day. I am Aqua but I am nothing like her in that facet.
After all, doesn't it say in the aqua traits that we are honest and loyal?
Does she have a planet in a sagittarius sign or some other fire sign? other than that, I don't understand why she would be like that unless she doesn't have any morals..o_O
does she have a chemical imbalance? o_O she is a doctor who needs a doctor, I would think.
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i wonder if my aqua will grow into the woman she can be...the potential i see in her...or maybe that she wanted me to see in her but doesn;t exist...who knows.
to be honest, right now im really unsure about the type of person she is...because if she truly means everything she said when i ended things with her this second time...she is the most selfish, inconsiderate, dishonest person i've come across...with no respect for other's feelings but her own...and no concerns about her actions...defenitely not appropiate or ready for any sort of good relationship.

a little bittie part of me thinks...that she could still be missunderstood and that she has issues that go out of her control...

but the bottom line is...she isn't what i need right now. she was at times...but at times she SOOOOOO wasn't...and for her to do whatever she did this past weekend...there isn't any validation in my eyes...because even she said it herself...i hadn't done anything wrong to deserve that.
i just hope i can forget her soon...
im still intrigued about the type of person she may be, even after close to 2 years now!! but my curiosity is much less existent that the dissapointment i feel in my heart...so most likely i'll move on just fine...until she tries to reappear in the picture again...and then...i will have to hold myself...
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Reiniba,
"Does she have a planet in a sagittarius sign or some other fire sign? other than that, I don't understand why she would be like that unless she doesn't have any morals..o_O
does she have a chemical imbalance? o_O she is a doctor who needs a doctor, I would think"
lol...you are so darn right. she must have some sort of imbalance...because she truly had no shame to say that "she was honest in most of the things she said to me"...as if that was an excuse...and also that "she wasn't ever 100% sure she was ready to be my girlfriend" as an excuse to most likely cheat...
and reiniba...trust me...she had PLENTY of chances...in fact i was the one constantly asking her if she was allright of our current status and if she could stay committed at the distance...and she will always say "yes" to each...
it's sad really.
im sure she just got busy with her life and is already dating whoever else she was persuing...living her life as if nothing was wrong....but inside i'm sure she knows what shed did wasn't cool...or maybe she talks herself out of feeling bad so much so that it isn't a problem for her...but it is huge for me.
i wish she wouild at least have confessed everything at once...but she was so random...and smart in her little comments and confessions...so who knows if one day i'll know the story behind this weekend...
rigth now, all i know is that i need to stay away from her, as far as i can.
and reiniba, yes i met other aqua girls who seem very authentic and loyal...and she seemed to be that way a bit at the beginning...she has all the aqua traits but that of loyalty is a bit messed up i think.
she makes up her own rules when it comes to commitment it seems...i just wish she would sharing with whoever she is dating next time.
how are you doing though?
vll
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Sorry. Sad
Wheres ms Libra?
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Well, VLL.. >_> The only thing I've acheived with the virguy that I like is getting him pissed off most of the time. I have many morals that are in opposition to his. He is totally irrational 90% of the time. He is trying to make me say cuss words and threatening to hang up on me if I don't. I'm slowly just not caring anymore.
But he still calls me a child and still treats me like one.
I don't know how to please him really. I don't want to sacrifice my morals either. He wasn't this way before the e-mail I sent. And he says that his heart is for the other girl because she didn't leave as long as I did. I've been trying to come up with ways to get around his manipulation but it's been tough. Sometimes he won't even let me speak.
Now all I can do is just play along really.
How do you please a virg with a south node in scorpio and a venus in leo!! 'manipulative attention whore' is what kind of chart that is!!
He keeps saying that I am retarded because I haven't lived the life he has lived. He's faced a gun and I haven't. He's been put in jail etc etc.
I live a pretty peaceful life here in the south. He lives a life on the edge in New York..
o_O what do you expect?
How I deal with a guy that has a manipulative side and has a traumatic childhood???
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if a person truly love someone, they shouldn't keep any record of wrongs. they shouldn't calibrate who'll take ownership and make the relationship work.
a person who CHOOSE to love someone won't say things such as "i did the move before now it's her turn to make her move."
you love her, now be patient until she grows up or turn out to be the "ideal" woman you have in mind -- a mature person will realize that this is so very impossible to happen.
there's struggle in every relationship to make it work but there's also a struggle to move out of a relationship that is not healthy neither good for you -- physically, emotionally, mentally and spiritually.
our love is calculated with the amount of love that we give.
hope things will turn out well for you both -- may it means breaking up or holding on.
your call.
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wow reading these posts was a trip. I too knew a few aqua girls in my time and had one serious relationship with one. It was great. But then it all turned sour unnecessarily. They are on a different planet. She made friends so easily but then it seemed that noone really knew her properly. She was overly-friendly almost to the point of voyeurism/fanaticism but then eventually she would get bored and drop this person just like that and move on and make friends with another person and do it all over again. Eventually she did it to me the relationship went down the pan. From my experience i think that aqua girls enjoy this journey-girl enigma role that they play they never let anyone get close and never show emotions they just lock them away as if they are in denial. But i do know that the emotions are there because the only way to get them out was to be really mean to her. With this girl, the line from jerry maguire, "great at friendship, bad at intimacy" rang true. But i never got bored with her.............. definitely a trip

my aqua too played a few games with friendsips and with me on relationship and ppl got disenchanted. And she also always always thought she was right! I think they just need to know that some of their actions have strong effects on others. However they do have fantastic qualities such as loyalty, great conversationalist, when they help you they really go out of the way to do so.
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Am cappy guy with virgo rising btw. When relationship ended i really felt ko'd. Just didn't get it because when it was good it was soooo good. Then she got a case of the itchy feet. Seeing how she dealt with some of her friends and with me i came to realise that she was very confused. Creating problems, then just walking away as if they never happened, sweeping them under the carpet. In denial. I missed her a lot, sure. But just couldn't agree with the way she did things sometimes. Thought i was very patient with her but she even failed to acknowledge some of the mistakes she made, let alone apologise! I did think she was loyal and for the most part honest but not completely. Some things about her she just couldn't bring herself to tell me, even though i found out/worked them out for myself. She was fiercely independent or wanted to be. Don't let anyone compromise what u believe is right. keep your self-respect. Sounds like u deserve better.
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lady m,
no worries or sadness...it is what it is...and even if it's not im moving at this point...i can't return back right now, if ever, i gave it a second shot...she needs time to grow in being more honest and ready for the kind of relationship i was willing to give her.
ms. libra is still around, actually as soon as she heard of the break up she called...we got mutual friends. she started dating a new guy not too long ago, but she told me that she still has feelings for me and that if i would give us a chance again she will stop dating the guy she has been seeing...
the problem is though, this guy seems to be good for her...and ultimately i want her happiness...she is really the realtionship type of girl, even though she has things to work on, i know she is very giving, loyal, and sweet...but with all that said...im not so sure i can be best for her right now, giving my recent feelings of dissapointement.
im considering it...but i want to do what is right for her and not be seflish...
i'll write more in my next break.
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back...
on the other hand there is this scorpio girl who has liked me for a while, i didnt know...she met me while i was dating ms. libra and she was dating someone else...we went on doubles dates with them at the time. we all became acquaintances. she and her bf broke up months ago...and she confessed me last night that she had a crush on me for a while...and she kissed me...i was in shock.
i like the fact that she is very smart...i work with many engenieers and she herself is an engenieer too...so that's how we connect...but the fact that i knew her bf and that i knew how much he loved her, even thougth thinks didn't work out between them...makes me a bit unsure...plus although she is beautiful and fun...i don't know that i have the energy right now to jump into anything serious right away.
how are you doing lady m?
vgurl,
i think this time...i'll pass...i tried for close to 2 years now to understand this girl..and i may love her much, but she got issues and until she doesn't resolve them and wins my trust again (which i doubt will happen soon) then im pretty much gone from the situation. i got too much going on...stressing about it won't help me much right now. i'll give her the freedom she needs to do her things...and just be open to what the future holds...but it will take time for me to trust her again, even as a friend...
mr balloon,
i understand you and can relate sooo much. i will write more about your comments soon bro. hope your day is great.
vll
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oh, vll...i think you need to just go out and have fun and do your own thing for a while...don't even worry about dating at the moment. i am sure you will not have a problem finding someone to settle down with eventually, as you seem to be a great guy and a great catch for someone who will appreciate you!!! it's her loss, not yours...and i think you are well aware of that Winking
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everyone...NEWS!
the re-thinking is happening sooner than what i thought.
the mutual friend that introduced me and the aqua girl called me today...and she invited me to eat dinner with her and her boyfriend...and maybe some friends tomorrow night...to which i said "okay" since i hadn't seen them in a while and i didn't had any set plans yet...
get this!!
by the end of the conversation...she says..."oh and by the way ---- (the name of the aqua) will be in town and we will meet her just a bit before or after"
i was like..."what? what is she doing here, do you know?" and she said "i don't know, i think she wanted to hang out with old friends for a bit"
:o
so...something tells me that this is a bit planned, since she lives 2 hours away and hasn't seen these people in a long long time...
maybe i'm reading too much into it...i don't know what's going on and if i should go to that dinner, because if i see her there...i think im going to have a hard time trying to fight my feelings...
i can't believe she is coming to town after she's been silent all week.
oh this aqua girl...she never cease to surprise me...for good or for bad...
im kinda nervous.
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i think i may need a drink.
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go to dinner and have a good time...mask all your feelings that you are having right now about her...and act completely normal with her, as if nothing ever happened. b/c you know that is how she is going to act...so play her own game.
and if she wants to hang out with you after dinner, tell her that you already have plans to meet with someone else, or even better...just tell her that you are tired and just want to go home and go to sleep...
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"i think i may need a drink."
ok...maybe one drink!!! not too many b/c you need to stay strong.
do not fall into her trap...
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if i were on you shoes, i'll go with the "relationship-material kinda girl" .. i think that is your ms. libra.
it takes a lot of struggle to make a relationship successful. cooperation is a key as well as compromise.
i wouldn't invest all my energy, time and love with just a second best because i know who's worth my love.
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vll...you must stop being the nice guy with her unless you want to continue being put through this vicious cycle with her. learn a lesson here. be strong and stand your ground with her...DO NOT give in to her at all!!!
if you want anything to change between the two of you, YOU must change first and start being a lot tougher with her. no more Mr. Nice guy Winking
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"She hasn't learned yet"
-no, she hasn't learned yet...but neither has he. that is quite obvious...
he must stop being so convenient for her. he needs to start challenging her and showing her his strong side.
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it'll always be your choice, mr. virgowithalittlelibra.
you can find gazillion reasons and ways to stay in a relationship, but you can also find gazillion reasons to fall out of that relationship.
you're old enough to know what's good for you.
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yeah, but if vll doesn't go to dinner, then his aqua is going to think he is not going b/c she will be there...which leads her to believe that she has control of the situation. why should he have to alter his plans b/c of her??? i think he should go and act like nothing ever happened, and play it really cool...that will make her wonder what's up.
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leo...i agree, he is too nice of a guy. and i don't think he would be able to mask his feelings...
just by reading his last post, it seems that he was elated to hear that she was going to be there for dinner. like he couldn't wait to see her...
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it will never work between the two of them...at least not right now. it's all about timing, and in this case the timing is way off! they are obviously at two different points in their lives... and in that respect, they do not mesh.
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oh, yeah leo...what are you making your aqua for dinner?
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I think this Aqua girl of VLL is very confused with her feelings. She doesn't really know what she wants so she flip flops back and forth. This causes confusion and frustration. VLL should let her be so she has time to figure out what it is she really wants. Right now is not a good time for them to be in a relationship at all. VLL is too emotional (which is good to see in a Virgo as mostly on the Virgo there are always girls saying the Virgo guy is so cold) and the Aqua girl seems a bit detached from the situation. She seems a bit immature also. However, I think she is doing some of Aqua testing we are so famous for. However, after two years she shouldn't have to test him like she is. This just shows her maturity level.
As for the dinner that is a bit tricky. I would advise VLL to go, but to stay detached (Virgos are good at that when they want to) but act like a friend. This will confuse her because she more than likely is expecting him to act moody and upset around her. If he acts like normal she won't know where she stands and she shouldn't either.
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hmmm these are all good points.
i am not getting back with her...i'm strong in that decision, but i'm just nervous with the thought of bumping into her because i obviously still love her, not matter how hard this has been. but this isn't about love anymore...it is about integrity and character in our relationship...and she isn't fostering that...i know that.
im unsure about what to do...because if i dont go to that dinner she will find ways to find me, i know that...she knows where i go out when i go out and where i live...but maybe i can try to avoid all those places as much as possible...if i see her i'll be strong...
i could bring a date there if i wanted to...i just don't know what is best...i think i'll call that friend of ours to figure out more, in a casual way, about the timing and plans...
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"I would advise VLL to go, but to stay detached (Virgos are good at that when they want to) but act like a friend. This will confuse her because she more than likely is expecting him to act moody and upset around her. If he acts like normal she won't know where she stands and she shouldn't either."
- i absolutely agree!!!
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"aquas usually don't like having to report back to someone the day's events. so, if she did lie, then i can see why his mind might start to meander a bit and imagine all sorts of things."
-yes, aquaaqi...that is very true. and you could be right about your conclusion...it sounds right to me...
like i said before, this whole situation will give him a chance to learn as well!
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Maybe it's because love is blind in some cases.
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yeah, he is not ready to let her go...i think we can all see that.
if you read his post earlier about finding out that she is going to dinner, it is quite obvious.
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Well, when I was younger I would see past faults of the guys I liked. I'd gloss them over and think things will get better. They never did. Then I had this Virgo guy who is completely the opposite of me. I completely disregarded everything. No matter how much he pushed me away, I'd come back for more, like a fool. I just couldn't accept that I was wrong about this person. Finally, I came to my senses and realized I had to let go to keep my sanity. So the one and only true time love was blind for me was with this Virgo guy and it really messed me up. However, I got back to myself and have no more contact with him. I've even shut my phone off (I have another cell phone also) so he can't call me if he so chooses. He would call me up late at night drunk and everything. The more he opened up to me, the more involved I got. I learnt my lesson very well.
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Absolutely very familiar. I thought if I just kept hanging in there that he would see I was for real. Instead, the Virgo guy got scared because he knew I was for real and couldn't handle it so he ran scared. The Virgo guy and I are complete opposites. He's into drinking and partying, and I'm not. It was like opposites attract. It was hard to go through. To be honest, I don't think I'll ever forget about it. That is how deep it went. He will always be the one guy that had me question myself which I didn't like for one minute.
Yes, VLL has found this person, and he's having a tough time with it also. He will gain strength from it.
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