Houses and mother figure

This topic was created in the Astrology Houses forum by EtherealTraveler on Sunday, July 23, 2017 and has 15 replies.
Literally having lots of aspects about females and in particular my own mother. Can anyone interpret the relationship between me and my mom? I'll put down the obvious aspects and placements (All Cancer related placements, all 4th house related placements and all moon aspects)

Pisces moon in 3rd house

Moon sextile sun

Moon sextile mercury

Moon sextile saturn

Moon square venus

Moon square pluto

Moon semi square neptune

Moon sesquiquadrate true lunar node

Jupiter in 4th house

Saturn in 4th house

Aries in the 4th house cusp (despite this my saturn is in taurus in the 4th house)

Cancer in the 7th house cusp

All these aspects especially moon square pluto and cancer in 7th house worries me since it hints bad relationships with the mother Sad
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Posted by Koniuchaa
Hmm, I have Cancer moon in my 7th house and moon square Pluto.

Moon square Pluto is hard. I was actually thinking about starting a topic on it. How do you deal with it?
Suppress it. Honestly its that simple and it's a bit easier suppressing it when you've been mocked and insulted in one way or the other about the things you talk about and want to know more about.

My moon's in Pisces, 3rd house while Pluto's in Sag, 12th house. In my opinion, I have a bit of an edge as Pluto in 12th house and Pisces moon gave me the ability to understand what I'm feeling. And 3rd house just kinda made me talk about it because I can't shut up before. I still can't shut up but I suppressed myself to a good degree now.

When I first got into astrology, my excuse was to study about emotions. Which is true, because every sign has their own way of behaving and react differently to situations. Some are more extroverted and outgoing and quick to jump like fire signs, while some are more sensitive and introverted like water signs. Mixing them up just felt fascinating for me.

And so I kinda shared my findings to other people minus the astrology part. Guess what? People were like "oh studying emotions doesn't get you a girl" and "oh that showed a LOT of emotion" while in fact I'm just being cold and detached towards someone I don't want to talk about. This sarcasm made me nervous, as if I'm being judged and mocked for something I like. To add onto the fact, one of the teachers which somewhat hated my guts (She's a Taurus with Gemini placements most likely with her sharp tongue and sarcasm) said I was hypersensitive and I shouldn't. I take it as judging too. From these two examples, I concluded that emotional extremes will be judged by others and they shouldn't be shown to others or even been talked about. It's taboo and unacceptable by the modern world.

So I learned to be more reserved and suppressed said feelings. I still feel a lot and go into emotional extremes, but it's mostly under control because I don't want to be judged by the public eye. It's tough but I learned it the hard way personally.
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Hmm, I have Cancer moon in my 7th house and moon square Pluto.

Moon square Pluto is hard. I was actually thinking about starting a topic on it. How do you deal with it?
Suppress it. Honestly its that simple and it's a bit easier suppressing it when you've been mocked and insulted in one way or the other about the things you talk about and want to know more about.

My moon's in Pisces, 3rd house while Pluto's in Sag, 12th house. In my opinion, I have a bit of an edge as Pluto in 12th house and Pisces moon gave me the ability to understand what I'm feeling. And 3rd house just kinda made me talk about it because I can't shut up before. I still can't shut up but I suppressed myself to a good degree now.

When I first got into astrology, my excuse was to study about emotions. Which is true, because every sign has their own way of behaving and react differently to situations. Some are more extroverted and outgoing and quick to jump like fire signs, while some are more sensitive and introverted like water signs. Mixing them up just felt fascinating for me.

And so I kinda shared my findings to other people minus the astrology part. Guess what? People were like "oh studying emotions doesn't get you a girl" and "oh that showed a LOT of emotion" while in fact I'm just being cold and detached towards someone I don't want to talk about. This sarcasm made me nervous, as if I'm being judged and mocked for something I like. To add onto the fact, one of the teachers which somewhat hated my guts (She's a Taurus with Gemini placements most likely with her sharp tongue and sarcasm) said I was hypersensitive and I shouldn't. I take it as judging too. From these two examples, I concluded that emotional extremes will be judged by others and they shouldn't be shown to others or even been talked about. It's taboo and unacceptable by the modern world.

So I learned to be more reserved and suppressed said feelings. I still feel a lot and go into emotional extremes, but it's mostly under control because I don't want to be judged by the public eye. It's tough but I learned it the hard way personally.
I'm sorry to hear you were ridiculed. Showing emotions is actually a strength, especially in men. My brother also has this aspect. I asked him how he feels once, and he said that it's hard sometimes.

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Men have a harder time with Moon square Pluto usually :/ What about your mother or mother figure though? Were they a strong and devastating influence towards you?
traditionally 4th house has been represented by the mother, but 10th house can do this as well, especially in modern society, list those aspects too

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traditionally 4th house has been represented by the mother, but 10th house can do this as well, especially in modern society, list those aspects too

10th house in Libra, midheaven

Uranus trine midheaven

Venus sextile midheaven

Mercury square midheaven

Sun square midheaven

There you go
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Hmm, I have Cancer moon in my 7th house and moon square Pluto.

Moon square Pluto is hard. I was actually thinking about starting a topic on it. How do you deal with it?
Suppress it. Honestly its that simple and it's a bit easier suppressing it when you've been mocked and insulted in one way or the other about the things you talk about and want to know more about.

My moon's in Pisces, 3rd house while Pluto's in Sag, 12th house. In my opinion, I have a bit of an edge as Pluto in 12th house and Pisces moon gave me the ability to understand what I'm feeling. And 3rd house just kinda made me talk about it because I can't shut up before. I still can't shut up but I suppressed myself to a good degree now.

When I first got into astrology, my excuse was to study about emotions. Which is true, because every sign has their own way of behaving and react differently to situations. Some are more extroverted and outgoing and quick to jump like fire signs, while some are more sensitive and introverted like water signs. Mixing them up just felt fascinating for me.

And so I kinda shared my findings to other people minus the astrology part. Guess what? People were like "oh studying emotions doesn't get you a girl" and "oh that showed a LOT of emotion" while in fact I'm just being cold and detached towards someone I don't want to talk about. This sarcasm made me nervous, as if I'm being judged and mocked for something I like. To add onto the fact, one of the teachers which somewhat hated my guts (She's a Taurus with Gemini placements most likely with her sharp tongue and sarcasm) said I was hypersensitive and I shouldn't. I take it as judging too. From these two examples, I concluded that emotional extremes will be judged by others and they shouldn't be shown to others or even been talked about. It's taboo and unacceptable by the modern world.

So I learned to be more reserved and suppressed said feelings. I still feel a lot and go into emotional extremes, but it's mostly under control because I don't want to be judged by the public eye. It's tough but I learned it the hard way personally.
I'm sorry to hear you were ridiculed. Showing emotions is actually a strength, especially in men. My brother also has this aspect. I asked him how he feels once, and he said that it's hard sometimes.

Men have a harder time with Moon square Pluto usually :/ What about your mother or mother figure though? Were they a strong and devastating influence towards you?
My mom has always been very controlling of us. I am the only single one of my siblings, so she still tries with me. I love her and enjoy having her around, but we can't be together for very long because I get upset. It's a conflicted relationship. for me.

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Interesting, I wanna get more results before I comment on my relationship with my mom because I don't exactly fall into the moon square pluto pattern of having a "bad mom". Maybe it's my Jupiter in 4th house? But Saturn is also in 4th house and it felt like the odds are stacked against me for having a good relationship with my parents especially my mom :/
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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
Never really told my dad about how I feel mostly Tongue It's only my mom that knows and even then I keep it secretive so in reality barely anyone knows how much I feel. My dad's a sag and he just kinda spreads his philosophy and antics about climbing and being successful I guess... He does try to control and manipulate me in subtle ways about some of my behavior though (I'm mostly immune to it).

I can also relate to being cold and closed off, like I bet I intimidated many people (especially girls) with my cold behavior at times. Those cold stares and glares combined with sometimes sarcastic, toxic remarks. All of those are ways to hide my vulnerability.
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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
Never really told my dad about how I feel mostly Tongue It's only my mom that knows and even then I keep it secretive so in reality barely anyone knows how much I feel. My dad's a sag and he just kinda spreads his philosophy and antics about climbing and being successful I guess... He does try to control and manipulate me in subtle ways about some of my behavior though (I'm mostly immune to it).

I can also relate to being cold and closed off, like I bet I intimidated many people (especially girls) with my cold behavior at times. Those cold stares and glares combined with sometimes sarcastic, toxic remarks. All of those are ways to hide my vulnerability.
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I was the same way in high school, but for me in my opinion appearing intimidating kept the assholes far away from me, but sometimes it had a negative effect on my friends if they'd upset me they were always scared I'd snap when I'm in reality pretty patient. My mom's a Pisces and she's super emotionally driven sometimes I get her but other times I feel she's too emotionally driven it's just a weird situation.

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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
Never really told my dad about how I feel mostly Tongue It's only my mom that knows and even then I keep it secretive so in reality barely anyone knows how much I feel. My dad's a sag and he just kinda spreads his philosophy and antics about climbing and being successful I guess... He does try to control and manipulate me in subtle ways about some of my behavior though (I'm mostly immune to it).

I can also relate to being cold and closed off, like I bet I intimidated many people (especially girls) with my cold behavior at times. Those cold stares and glares combined with sometimes sarcastic, toxic remarks. All of those are ways to hide my vulnerability.
I was the same way in high school, but for me in my opinion appearing intimidating kept the assholes far away from me, but sometimes it had a negative effect on my friends if they'd upset me they were always scared I'd snap when I'm in reality pretty patient. My mom's a Pisces and she's super emotionally driven sometimes I get her but other times I feel she's too emotionally driven it's just a weird situation.

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Scared away many potential romantic interests with my cold self Sad I think all my crushes thus far see me as a cold, silent, awkward person that seemed very bitter in a sense and arrogant too. But its fine. On the other hand, I've attempted to seek emotional intimacy and failed and as a result I turned a lot more bitter than I should. My friends are fine I guess, I just never really trusted them completely and sometimes I get isolated by my own will or just forced to be isolated.

My mom's a Cap with Gem moon I think and she's fairly critical but loves me all the same. She influenced a lot of my life and I love her too, she rarely cries and gets emotional and is stern and hardworking like a typical Cap Tongue but she can be nice. I'm the odd one here with feeling emotions so well and so much it's sometimes painful.
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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
Never really told my dad about how I feel mostly Tongue It's only my mom that knows and even then I keep it secretive so in reality barely anyone knows how much I feel. My dad's a sag and he just kinda spreads his philosophy and antics about climbing and being successful I guess... He does try to control and manipulate me in subtle ways about some of my behavior though (I'm mostly immune to it).

I can also relate to being cold and closed off, like I bet I intimidated many people (especially girls) with my cold behavior at times. Those cold stares and glares combined with sometimes sarcastic, toxic remarks. All of those are ways to hide my vulnerability.
I was the same way in high school, but for me in my opinion appearing intimidating kept the assholes far away from me, but sometimes it had a negative effect on my friends if they'd upset me they were always scared I'd snap when I'm in reality pretty patient. My mom's a Pisces and she's super emotionally driven sometimes I get her but other times I feel she's too emotionally driven it's just a weird situation.

Scared away many potential romantic interests with my cold self Sad I think all my crushes thus far see me as a cold, silent, awkward person that seemed very bitter in a sense and arrogant too. But its fine. On the other hand, I've attempted to seek emotional intimacy and failed and as a result I turned a lot more bitter than I should. My friends are fine I guess, I just never really trusted them completely and sometimes I get isolated by my own will or just forced to be isolated.

My mom's a Cap with Gem moon I think and she's fairly critical but loves me all the same. She influenced a lot of my life and I love her too, she rarely cries and gets emotional and is stern and hardworking like a typical Cap Tongue but she can be nice. I'm the odd one here with feeling emotions so well and so much it's sometimes painful.
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I find that I connect with people a lot easier than most people like if someone is upset or something. Seeing others cry or hurt just effects me deeper than most people I know, and I admire people that are unapologetic about their emotions.

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I have a Pisces Moon square Pluto (in Sagittarius) as well and I really understood where you said you were judged for your emotions. I know it's a lot harder for guys because of the stigma, but for me my dad (A Taurus with mostly Aries placements) has always been a "toughen up" kind of guy, and to this day he always says I need to stop being so soft hearted all the time. For the longest time I've tried to be the coldest most closed off person I could be and really I can (I believe it might help that my sun is Virgo.) It just you know...it's weird lol for me I'm still learning about aspects and the tiny details of Astrology, and I never knew my moon squared pluto was the reason I've felt so put down for my "soft heart" (Still love my dad to death though)
Never really told my dad about how I feel mostly Tongue It's only my mom that knows and even then I keep it secretive so in reality barely anyone knows how much I feel. My dad's a sag and he just kinda spreads his philosophy and antics about climbing and being successful I guess... He does try to control and manipulate me in subtle ways about some of my behavior though (I'm mostly immune to it).

I can also relate to being cold and closed off, like I bet I intimidated many people (especially girls) with my cold behavior at times. Those cold stares and glares combined with sometimes sarcastic, toxic remarks. All of those are ways to hide my vulnerability.
I was the same way in high school, but for me in my opinion appearing intimidating kept the assholes far away from me, but sometimes it had a negative effect on my friends if they'd upset me they were always scared I'd snap when I'm in reality pretty patient. My mom's a Pisces and she's super emotionally driven sometimes I get her but other times I feel she's too emotionally driven it's just a weird situation.

Scared away many potential romantic interests with my cold self Sad I think all my crushes thus far see me as a cold, silent, awkward person that seemed very bitter in a sense and arrogant too. But its fine. On the other hand, I've attempted to seek emotional intimacy and failed and as a result I turned a lot more bitter than I should. My friends are fine I guess, I just never really trusted them completely and sometimes I get isolated by my own will or just forced to be isolated.

My mom's a Cap with Gem moon I think and she's fairly critical but loves me all the same. She influenced a lot of my life and I love her too, she rarely cries and gets emotional and is stern and hardworking like a typical Cap Tongue but she can be nice. I'm the odd one here with feeling emotions so well and so much it's sometimes painful.


I find that I connect with people a lot easier than most people like if someone is upset or something. Seeing others cry or hurt just effects me deeper than most people I know, and I admire people that are unapologetic about their emotions.

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Because they're showing their vulnerable side and that takes a lot of courage and promotes us Pisces mooners to drop our guard.