Venus Conjunct Pluto in Scorpio Synastry

Posted by saggurl88

Just seems like it would be intense and passionate. Typical Scorpio stuff

Posted by Bk201

It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.

In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc

Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton

Posted by lisabethur8

so you mean Pluto Libra on Venus Libra kind of thing? is that it?

or Pluto Scorpio on venus scorpio?

i find alot of Pluto Scorpio, Pluto Libra, Pluto Virgo ...and even ew.. Pluto Leo liking my synastry in the past.

Posted by perperuna

I have Venus sq. Pluto with my boyfriend. I am Pluto. Its a very deep and intense relationship.

Posted by Ellygant

I have venus/Pluto in Scorpio natally. So I have Pluto synastry pretty much with everyone 3/4 older or younger than me. I’ve been both the venus and the Pluto.

I don’t think there’s much difference honestly between which feels more or less. Other than the intensity is harder to process for the venus. Normally because they’re surprised by it.

The only way a Pluto/venus relationship could survive is if both actually stop obsessing over who has the power/upperhand and resolve to be a power couple. Fight the world instead of each other. Transform themselves and the relationship by transforming those they can influence through their joined forces. That’s my hope anyhow. All my relationships with that synastry (which has been most of them in general and every single serious one) ended because of dumb power plays and needing to have control for fear of losing the person. And it didn’t matter if I was venus or Pluto. I’ve been the initiator and the receiver in both positions. Worst tho was needing to have control for fear of losing the feeling of having power over another person (that relationship also had a lot of squares to Pluto tho).

Here’s to hoping it’s workable tho. And someone finds it less mystifying like myself. Or Maybe I just need to start dating a bit older.

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Posted by stillstillwater

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I have venus/Pluto in Scorpio natally. So I have Pluto synastry pretty much with everyone 3/4 older or younger than me. I’ve been both the venus and the Pluto.

I don’t think there’s much difference honestly between which feels more or less. Other than the intensity is harder to process for the venus. Normally because they’re surprised by it.

The only way a Pluto/venus relationship could survive is if both actually stop obsessing over who has the power/upperhand and resolve to be a power couple. Fight the world instead of each other. Transform themselves and the relationship by transforming those they can influence through their joined forces. That’s my hope anyhow. All my relationships with that synastry (which has been most of them in general and every single serious one) ended because of dumb power plays and needing to have control for fear of losing the person. And it didn’t matter if I was venus or Pluto. I’ve been the initiator and the receiver in both positions. Worst tho was needing to have control for fear of losing the feeling of having power over another person (that relationship also had a lot of squares to Pluto tho).

Here’s to hoping it’s workable tho. And someone finds it less mystifying like myself. Or Maybe I just need to start dating a bit older.

lol that's so interesting! I'm having this right now and like this Venus person doesn't even know the half of it or all these poems that were inspired by them i'm just hiding away. Will definitely present at the right time because I can sense that Venus person would not be ready for it at all! Baby steps. For me as Pluto it feels so natural to just dive in and who cares about the consequence because it feels good right now. Intuitively I know better. Also, being a Cap somewhat helps and other times makes it worse. Because when you get shunned as Pluto it hurts like hell and being a Cap you want to withdraw even more.

It really won’t be that bad if the other person has Pluto aspects natally.even when I was venus I was shocked, but more by the experience and how amazing it was and that it was really happening. It wasn’t by the person. I wasn’t frightened off. But my chart is also a Pluto palooza too. It aspects every plant in my chart except one I believe. And no angles. Someone with less Pluto influence would ben overwhelmed. Especially if they’re dominant in Taurus, leo or Aquarius.

However great sun-moon aspects both ways equalizes out outer planet astrology. Saturn aspects as well, especially soft aspects to the sun or moon or any Saturn aspect to the angles. Jupiter as well to the sun, moon or mars would add dimension and lighten synastry.

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Posted by saggurl88

Just seems like it would be intense and passionate. Typical Scorpio stuff

How about difference perspective of how the Venus person or how the Pluto person experiences the relationship/union?

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Posted by libraman20

I can speak at length on the topic (I have natal Venus conj Pluto in Scorp within 2-3 degrees) and my last two GFs were within 2 months of my age so their Pluto was also conjunct my Venus. That said, instead of writing a paper on it, I'll say this important point which often gets glossed over:

How familiar/comfortable one is with Plutonic energy makes ALL THE DIFFERENCE in how the relationship plays out.

Many debate on whether the Venus person or the Pluto person is more invested, but it depends more on which person is more Plutonic natally.

My experiences:

1) My last ex-GF had a natal Moon square Pluto, and was overall more Plutonic than me (My Pluto also squared her Moon because were were within a month in age). My Pluto-side came out in relationships, but generally speaking, the Moon is more personal than Venus, so her Plutonic traits were more pronounced and visible. She was dark, mysterious, hot/cold, unpredictable and incredibly attractive. But the relationship ended up in flames because it became TOO Plutonic. Power plays, jealousy, all that nonsense that I'm aware is a part of my Venus-nature (but know better than to act on) were all part of her everyday personality, and she held more of the power generally speaking. Naturally, I ended up playing her game, and ended up leaving her when she took it too far. It messed both of us up, and we haven't spoken in over a year.

2) The current girl I'm seeing has no hard natal Pluto aspects (she might have a trine/sextile, but those are literally nothing compared to the Conjunction/Square tbh). Her Scorp Pluto is pretty much directly on my Scorpio Venus. Anyways, it's been a very balanced relationship thus far. I haven't felt any Pluto urges at all, because she hasn't done anything to spark that side. She does sometimes get hot/cold and I can tell there's something about the energy between us that's heavy and unsettling/unfamiliar to her, but she hasn't talked about it yet.

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Long story short, conjunctions with Pluto are no joke (Squares and Opps too, but they're different). Moon/Pluto connections might be even heavier than Venus/Pluto, but in a different way.

But the more Plutonic person will generally hold the power.

Posted by stillstillwater

As a Pluto person though any sign of rejection or lack of deep communication cuts deep.

Posted by libraman20

Posted by stillstillwater

As a Pluto person though any sign of rejection or lack of deep communication cuts deep.

Pretty much, but that's ironically how Pluto operates as well. That's why it's such a mess when both sides are playing Pluto games, but the potential is incredible if and only if both people are self-aware and communicative.

I'm pretty much bound to be in a Plutonic relationship because of my natal Scorp Venus/Pluto, so I have to find my balance and peace with it in order to be in a happy relationship (and she would have to have come to terms with hers as well). It's not easy, but it's hard to want anything else when you've felt that depth.

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Posted by stillstillwater

Why are you bound with it with Pluto and Venus Scorpio?

Venus relates to how you define love, what you find beautiful, and for a man, what you look for in a woman. When you have Venus/Pluto conjunct, especially in Scorpio, it completely transforms what you look for and crave in a relationship, and also the type of women I'm into.

So naturally, I'm drawn to women with Scorpio placements or Pluto aspects natally (or in synastry with me).

Not to mention, wherever Pluto touches on your chart (hard aspects namely), will be the deepest parts of you. And after experiencing a Venus/Pluto relationship, it hits deeper than anything else (Moon/Pluto too). And other non-Plutonic relationships won't hit that deep, and thus, feel unsatisfactory (even if they're much less painful).

To be honest, I was a skeptic of most astrology until my Venus/Pluto relationship. There was so much energy there that I couldn't understand or figure out.

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Posted by Bk201

It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.

In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc

Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton

oh that's interesting. Are you Pluto or Venus in that synastry? How do you view the relationship?

And yeah like how does Pluto and Venus experience the relationship differently if they do at all? Like which one is more into it? which one gets overwhelmed by it?

A lot of articles say that Pluto is more into it and Venus gets overwhelmed and tries to run.

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Posted by Bk201

It can be really intense ime. I'm currently in a relationship with venus pluto conjunction at 1 degrees synastry(as well as venus pluto trine, and we both have V-P aspects natally). Imo whoever has the upper hand depends on how stable the partnership. In my relationship, we both have a lot of influence over each other and I would consider our partnership to be very stable.

In regards to how both the venus and the pluto experience the relationship, in what way? Do you mean who feels more? Who wants greater commitment? etc etc

Another thing, i think one aspect that is often overlooked in venus-pluto is that your other interaspects also impact that aspect. Having venus trine venus, and mars trine mars helps a ton

oh that's interesting. Are you Pluto or Venus in that synastry? How do you view the relationship?

And yeah like how does Pluto and Venus experience the relationship differently if they do at all? Like which one is more into it? which one gets overwhelmed by it?

A lot of articles say that Pluto is more into it and Venus gets overwhelmed and tries to run.

Do you mind if I pm you this info, and you can ask me whatever? I'm just not a big fan of discussing my private life on dxp

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Posted by Impulsv

The Venus played the power games but I also sense fear on his end

I didn’t feel like the one with the upper hand

He kept ending it n ten return only to end it

Both seeking each other out

For me after six months of fighting it would bring me to knees n I’d reach out

For him I don’t know why he would

Did it twice

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The Venus played the power games but I also sense fear on his end

I didn’t feel like the one with the upper hand

He kept ending it n ten return only to end it

Both seeking each other out

For me after six months of fighting it would bring me to knees n I’d reach out

For him I don’t know why he would

Did it twice

That’s crazy. Why keep returning and leaving ?

Still confused trying to figure his side

Either the worst man ever using me to feed his ego

Or felt the pull too

But mine I swear i say done never

But the pain depression n battled for six month but the pain of separation was so much bringing me to my knees n I’d reach out

He was always happy though to hear from me

Then cycle again

Then he’d leave I move on again pain but then six months pass n he reached out.

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Posted by Arielle83

I have it in Virgo with a Capricorn

Posted by Impulsv

You ask why would you answer the call

Well it was thanksgiving n was with sister

I swear the night before I had a knowing he was going to call

I

Tossed and turned battleting wether to forgive him n not. Then that morning I turn the radio n it’s a song he dedicated. Now I was embarrassed to tell my sister of my strong premonition but I told her if what I think will happen

Happens I’ll tell you I won the lottery n explain what I mean by that.

So I got on the plane back home n read a spiritual book n then I vowed I was letting it in God’s hands if he is meant to return with or without him I’ll be happy.

As I walk down that plane stairs n turn on my phone

I got his message. I called back

Only for him to leave three

weeks later of meeting n talking

Cruel universe eh

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like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.

They do act non cholant

But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break

Skin n bone , depression too.

We’d catch up n talk about things we’ve learned or changes for n life

O e break was because I wasn’t open n I told him

Six months later first thing he says I’m much open to life now.

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Posted by Arielle83

I have it in Virgo with a Capricorn

How do you feel about it?

Really intense dirty sex

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Posted by Impulsv

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like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.

They do act non cholant

But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break

Skin n bone , depression too.

We’d catch up n talk about things we’ve learned or changes for n life

O e break was because I wasn’t open n I told him

Six months later first thing he says I’m much open to life now.

so did he open up with you about the reasons?

No, when I asked is when he’d run????

Made no sense

Assuming you are asking the reason he left

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like we could be trying and crying for million reasons. And venus will smile and be like but why? Assholes lmao.

They do act non cholant

But me ex lost a lot of weight during a break

Skin n bone , depression too.

We’d catch up n talk about things we’ve learned or changes for n life

O e break was because I wasn’t open n I told him

Six months later first thing he says I’m much open to life now.

so did he open up with you about the reasons?

No, when I asked is when he’d run????

Made no sense

Assuming you are asking the reason he left

smh in this aspect Pluto always is portrayed as the bad guy...manipulator in power..but I think really Pluto is more expressive, honest, and true. Venus just runs and denies.

Like the dynamic in this song

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I have it in Virgo with a Capricorn

How do you feel about it?

Really intense dirty sex

lol details?

He’s 12 yrs older. He’s cheeky with me at work.

First time I was at his drinking as mates. Then I fell on his couch cuz I was tired and he just lifts my dress and starts going down on me.

Since then, intense eye contact. I role play out of the blue and he gets into it. I’m akways the naive younger girl and he plays the dirty old man taking advantage.

He’s has no boundaries. I let him push mine.

We fuvk for hours and watch porn while were into it. It’s just a lot of sex and chemistry.

All that and we can do normal things too.

He holds my hand when he drives.

Takes me out. It all feels balanced.

He’s fiery and I think he gets a bit sexually dominant but I let him

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Posted by stillstillwater

Venus folks? how do you feel?

Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.

While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.

I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?

In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.

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Venus folks? how do you feel?

Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.

While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.

I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?

In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.

Wow see from Venus position you think this person is playing games. But i guarantee they showed you some kind of vulenrabilty that you dismisses and that's what is causing the imbalance. They feel rejected. Tehy want you to finally accept the intense feelings you have between the two of you. They want you to stop denying it. Because Pluto does not deny it and they let you know but may be you just dont' see they way they're expressing it. For Plut they feel like they put their whole heart at your feet and it's your time to reciprocate.

I get the rejected part, but Pluto's reactions are so hardcore, and the signs they show (if they show any) are so subtle.

Random example from early in our relationship:

- I lay out all my feelings out for her one night when we were out drinking, she downplays hers, even though there's clearly a crazy obsession from both sides. I feel like crap, so we call it a night.

- Next day she gives me longing looks as if she wants me to come home with her that day, but in my head, I'm still thinking about what she said the day before. I don't go back with her.

- She ignores me for a few days and flirts heavily with a guy I know she's not interested in. She does this more if she sees that it's affecting me...but when I show that I'm unbothered, she starts staring at me longingly and starts tearing up.

Like, its a terrible cycle that would never happen if she would've just admitted her feelings too.

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Posted by Impulsv

You know what I think Venus did think of it as bending the knee power struggle but that was farthest from the truth

Not sure why they see it that way

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You know what I think Venus did think of it as bending the knee power struggle but that was farthest from the truth

Not sure why they see it that way

yeah i think from Pluto aspect it's like don't deny it. just accept it and give in to it.

But Venus thinks that if they do that they'll lose their power. But it's not true. I think Pluto gives back more than they receive. But they want to feel sane and have a reason to give back.

So can you imagine borderline being crazy and in love with this person but not knowing why. that's Pluto. so they need reassurance from Venus.

I’m starting to believe in astrology

This is exactly it

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Venus folks? how do you feel?

Because being Pluto feels like shit. lol. It's like this person is an inspiration to you but you think that you are to them just another option.

While there's obviously more to it than just being "the Pluto" or "the Venus", it sucked to be the Venus person with my ex.

I could feel/sense the deep obsession on her part, but she'd never admit to it, and would act coldly whenever I put my feelings out on the table. And then she'd stare longingly at me, which would just baffle me more...like is having the "upper hand" that much more important than having a healthy relationship?

In retrospect, I think she wanted me to fully submit and "bend the knee", but why would I do that when she never showed any love back? I naturally started to distance myself, which made her act even more erratically/angrily.

Wow see from Venus position you think this person is playing games. But i guarantee they showed you some kind of vulenrabilty that you dismisses and that's what is causing the imbalance. They feel rejected. Tehy want you to finally accept the intense feelings you have between the two of you. They want you to stop denying it. Because Pluto does not deny it and they let you know but may be you just dont' see they way they're expressing it. For Plut they feel like they put their whole heart at your feet and it's your time to reciprocate.

I get the rejected part, but Pluto's reactions are so hardcore, and the signs they show (if they show any) are so subtle.

Random example from early in our relationship:

- I lay out all my feelings out for her one night when we were out drinking, she downplays hers, even though there's clearly a crazy obsession from both sides. I feel like crap, so we call it a night.

- Next day she gives me longing looks as if she wants me to come home with her that day, but in my head, I'm still thinking about what she said the day before. I don't go back with her.

- She ignores me for a few days and flirts heavily with a guy I know she's not interested in. She does this more if she sees that it's affecting me...but when I show that I'm unbothered, she starts staring at me longingly and starts tearing up.

Like, its a terrible cycle that would never happen if she would've just admitted her feelings too.

Woww! That's crazy. You guys got any double pluto/etc aspect?

Because as just a Venus/Pluto conjunct, i wait for an olive branch and give back a whole tree. Like whatever I get what I give back is 100x more.

My Venus (Scorp) conjunct her Pluto (Scorp): 2 degrees

My Pluto (Scorp) square her Moon (Leo): 2 degrees

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My Moon (Virgo) sextile her Pluto (Scorp): 3 degrees

My Pluto (Scorp) sextile her Mars (Virgo): 2 degrees

We had some other sextiles too, but the top two are the big ones.


And lots of sextiles with Pluto too

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Posted by peachy06

I have this conjuction and it's tiring tbh

Posted by Impulsv

He did have me behaved in ways I’d never do

He’d try to get me jealous talking about so n so likes him


So I’d bring up my conquest lol

Said how this 22 year old at work was flirting with him .

So I’m like yeah I get younger guys hitting on me too.( which is true lol) fml

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Posted by stillstillwater

Whoa so you had it both ways that each was Pluto and the other aspect. That makes it so much more complicated. Holy!! GOd bless. Don't know how you survived it.

We just have this one Pluto aspect and half the time I'm drowing. The other half pretending lol.

Yeah we had lots of conjunctions between our personal planets too.

It's kinda saddening to hear it affecting you guys from the Pluto spot so much, because she definitely had the power as the Pluto person from my experience. If she ever said any of those things to me, things might've been different. And most sites will say that Pluto has more power, but through action (i.e. not showing their feelings). Both sides feel very vulnerable but Venus is more likely to express it. Venus is also more likely to flirt with others, so that can drive Pluto insane.

And she finally took it too far (involved aforementioned guy she had no feelings for), and I ended it on the spot. I couldn't take it anymore. Soon after she moved and went into hiding across the country, she's completely gone off the map and word is she's very depressed. And that's sad to me, but if I think about how she was acting when we were together, it's hard for me to feel that bad. She was being so cold, erratic, and also being emotional without ever sharing them with me.

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Posted by Impulsv

Although he knew I loved him

I never told him until year four

For Pluto we might think we are obvious n vulnerable

He did say he knew all along

But remember how can I saw it after 1st rejection

Then after year four I said regardless of his answer

It needed to be out

I hope libraman u can forgive

I’m sure weren’t perfect in it either

Posted by Impulsv

Although he knew I loved him

I never told him until year four

For Pluto we might think we are obvious n vulnerable

He did say he knew all along

But remember how can I saw it after 1st rejection

Then after year four I said regardless of his answer

It needed to be out

I hope libraman u can forgive

I’m sure weren’t perfect in it either