what sign makes the best strategist?

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Interpreting the Scorpio glyph it should be remembered that Scorpio is Feminine although this sign has the projecting phallic marker of Masculine principles, Masculine projecting forces, perverse Masculine forces - in the esoterical sense Scorpio cannot be considered 'perverse' no that is not possible, Scorpio being Feminine is provisional and what's Feminine is more provisional than any Masculine force could possibly be (YES ONLY) only projecting Masculine forces could possibly be Perverse, you have to understand the esoterical symbolism in the sense that what's Passive is more all encompassingly powerful than anything that Masculinity can project, Masculinity 'needs' the Passive Feminine principle does not have any 'needs'. Think about - the Earth Masculine? or Feminine? Earth Masculine? No. Wrong. The Earth in the esoterical was just Passive Feminine Earth until it was projected upon by projections and projections in any manner is and was Masculine. Submarines and Ships invented by the Feminine? Unlikely. This is again a Force that needs to project, Masculine principles always 'Need' to Project. The Scorpio glyph is symbolic because it represent the conquer of every kind of projecting perversions and it does not mean or for that matter indicate that Scorpio is a projecting perversion itself becuase this is not possible, Only Masculine Forcers are Truely perverse. Not that you wouldn't find dejected types of Scorpios in just way you would find dejected types of Capricorns and when the Feminine principles are 'Dangerous' you can be sure that they are more encompassingly dangerous than anything the Masculine side of astrology has to offer. This is why one might say that Scorpio is a more dangerous sign than Aries.
Masculine 'needs' and Feminine 'has' is what I mean't.
mean't? or is it men't? I don't remember.
This is a good reason not to not Hurt a Feminine force. Do you know why? I know why but do you why? Which force invented the Nuclear Bomb? Masculine or Feminine? Do you know what a nuclear bomb looks like? Yes you do. If the Masculine Force attempts to destroy the Feminine force which force do you think wins? only the Masculine looses, it is not possible for the Feminine to loose afterall the Masculine extracted everything from the the Feminine organic and created it into a phallic weapon of destruction. And when the Masculine principle destroys Earth - which is Feminine - He (Yes He) destroys the very sustinace of His being. The Masculine can only then live in a state of contradictory Deformation. What do your children look like? total antithesis of what Masculine principiles are about or should I have instead stated duality? What was once beautiful has now become Deformed. Try to hurt and revenge will strike a deadly blow. My catch phrase is 'the cutting of the penis.' But then ordinarily a nice combination very erotic and sexy.
'sustinance'.
"do you know why" sht.
And you can keep stretching these kinds of esoterisms, for example would you consider Females born in Masculine signs Passive? Women born in masculine signs passive? No. This is not possible, Women born in masculine signs only imitate passivity they are not passive in the manner that females born in feminine signs are passive. Which Force rules the Subconscious? or Unconscious? or Dreams? or whatever you might describe it as? Masculine? or Feminine? Which force rules your dreams? Its the Feminine forces that rules the intangible Subconscious. When a man born in a masculine sign dreams about a woman who was born in a masculine sign all he gets is coldness, frigidity and nothing but total Ignoring. It is not possible for a man born in a masculine sign to conceive of a woman born in a masculine as yeilding (Yes Yeilding) and yes even in His dreams a woman born in a Masculine sign will not Yeild. Males born in Masculine signs Dream only (Yes Only) of women born in feminine signs because the passive Feminine is Yeilding, this is the Woman in your Dreams/Subconsciousness that gyrates her naked body on your Penis and this Woman that You should know about on some level is always born in a Feminine sign and Not a masculine sign becoz there are no truley passive women whose natural nativities are in Masculine signs. In dream time a Man born in a Masculine sign cannot submit and prosecute (to project) a woman born in Masculine signs not even in his dreams this is why he becomes reticent and the term 'reticent' is Masculine and the Masculine principles have to compete even though gender is female. You cannot say the say the same thing on a subliminal unconscious level about women born in feminine signs, this is the Woman - the Woman that you Know about on whaterever level of consciousness (and factual experience for that matter) that literally has intercourse with you, she's the One that is gyrating all her femininity on your Penis, all of her beautiful softness is on all of your cold hardness. Very frightning to say the least because this subliminal state would only make a man born in masculine signs............... shall I use the word 'intimidated'? (frigidity about the passive erotic) but then its very erotic, very sexy and shall I say ........ lots of fun? Certainly more memorable (dream wise - the subconscious remember?) becoz all you get from the Masculine is coldness - you could not possibly say the same thing about the Feminine plane of Dreaming since the
the Subconscious which is literally 'Dreaming' is ruled by Feminine forces. On the conscious level I would suppose that males born in masculine signs would find females born in feminine signs a few shades to feminine and a few shades too erotic. Think about it. Not even the most gorgeous and beautiful woman born in a masculine signs is anyway near as erotic as a Woman born in a Feminine sign and Feminine signs are passive and for this reason they possess an erotic power greater than anything (Yes Anything) a woman born in a masculine sign could possibly offer. This is a peculiarity or quirk that I suppose only males born in Masculine signs would find unusual.
You have to remember that 'esotericisms' are 'analogies' and for this reason 'esoterisms' are not (Yes Not) pathological delusions in the same manner that 'Religions' are delusions, 'Religions' are pathological delusions of mankind, there are no 'Gods' just as in this same line there are no 'Ghosts'. An esoterical idea is not (Yes Not) analogous with Religion. Religions are pathological projecting masculine forces (pathological delusions) that try (Yes Try) to control (Yes Control) every kind of material existence.
what the hell, can you simplify your posts Joe stickler?
I know you think deep , but a little more understandable would be good.
I'm a Gemini.
JS, I found your posts to be interesting indeed! - another perspective of things...cool.
However, I personally feel that the most powerful force in the Universe is, Love.
Every one of us has access to this beautiful quality within ourselves...there are those who simply choose not to use it nor do they know how to use it and some do not know how to access it.
*Love conquers all.
Yes you are right but then since 'love' is a provisional idea it is not possible for masculine signs that can be associated with all encompassing 'love' due to the fact that the masculine signs are also perverse, this is my point, masculine signs 'philosophize' about this 'love' concept - this is one of the most important reasons people born in Fire signs 'philosophize' (Philosophical Fire) - you will realize that you cannot make the same association with feminine principles due to the fact that Feminine signs are tremendously provisonal beyond the capacity of any Mascuine signs - for example Fire signs are egotistical, egotism at the very basis of esoteric astrology is a perversion and for this very basic reason what is provisionally Feminine encompasses the Masculine. Not that the two combinations are not ordinarily bad its very nice to say the least.
You need to realize that this concept of "love" has multitudes of meanings. If you didn't know "love" can be associated with multitudes hideous perversions. And what is hideous is 'masculine' in origin since it is not in the esoteric astrological sense possible for a Feminine sign to be perverse. Feminine signs cannot be perverse and provisional at the same time that is not a possibility. This is the reason why I extrapolated on the glyphic symbolism of Scorpio - this symbol projects and then one might assume that this symbol represents a masculine force - bull sht, no this is not possible Scorpio is Feminine and for this reason Scorpio is tremendously provisional beyound the capacity of a perverted masculine force and you could make the same deduction about Taurus the Bull in the manner that the bull has projecting horns and this is a phallic symbol of perversion but this in an esoterical astrological sense this cannot be true since Taurus is Feminine and tremendously provisonal, both Scorpio and Taurus are Passive Feminine signs that have no (Yes Absolutely No) connection with masculine perversions. And I'm sure that there are several other esoterical ideas out there about for example the Scorpio glyph or the Taurean horns, at the very least I will say that these symoblisms might relate to something such as "I will retaliate" although these projecting symbolisms are not masculine in origin they are associated with Feminine esoterical concepts. This is the reason why I mentioned that the Scorpio glyph represents the conquering of ever kind of projecting masculine perversion and not that the Scorpio itself can be truly (Yes Truly) associated with any kind of perversity.
or you might say "I will protect and I will retaliate."
And since this idea of 'love' is colored with so many gradations including perversions (for example I'd like to fck you turn around and bend over - which is a perverted idea and only masculine in orgin ) the idea of 'passivity' and even 'humility' are more encompassingly powerful than this idea of 'love' due to the fact that for example 'humility' which is a 'passive' term is the most and more encompassingly powerful concept than this 'idea' of love. You will realize that 'passivity' and 'humility' will in the 'universe' always (Yes Always) absorb (Yes Absorb) this idea of 'love' cannot always absorb, get it? Love also likes to project perversely. You will not be able to say the same thing about 'humility' or 'passivity'. And I will reiterate that ordinarily (Yes Ordinarily) that what's feminine and masculine are ordinarily nice combinations that compliment each other nicely.
and so you might say that "humility" conquers all but then (Yes But Then) since you are an Aries woman born in a masculine sign your inner self can never truely be subjected to humility, the concept of 'humility' would be totally deplorable to a woman born in a masculine sign since the inner self of a woman born in a masculine sign cannot truely in the inner essence of masculine signs be truly passive.
"since you are an Aries woman born in a masculine sign your inner self can never truely be subjected to humility,"
really? and do you absolutely without a doubt know this to be true?
"the concept of 'humility' would be totally deplorable to a woman born in a masculine sign since the inner self of a woman born in a masculine sign cannot truely in the inner essence of masculine signs be truly passive."
are these your thoughts JS or are you getting this from some other source? again, really? do you know this to be true?

"for example Fire signs are egotistical,"
I know a Gemini man who is VERY egotistical....I personally do not feel that you can say that fire signs are egotistical...anyone can be just as well as anyone can choose not to be. Perhaps your mind might be a bit closed on some things here?
When our mind is closed, our heart will be closed. When our mind is open, our heart will also be open...so, if you want to open your heart - question your thinking.
JS...I do not believe that one can go strickly by the signs...we each grow and learn on our path here...all it takes is changing our thoughts about something.
(( When our mind is closed, our heart will be closed. When our mind is open, our heart will also be open...so, if you want to open your heart - question your thinking. ))
really? and do you absolutely without a doubt know this to be true? Tongue
Hi Libran....
good question! for me personally, yes. In the past, when my mind has been closed, so was my heart. When I have changed my thoughts, my heart has opened. I have personally felt and experienced this. (we learn by experience)
how bout you? what are your thoughts on this?
Ofcourse Gemini being a Masculine sign is egotistical on separate zodiacal platitudes compared for example with Aries. I'm not trying to disagree with your personal opinions although I'm speaking from an elemental and esoterical perspective. Actually since the planet Mercury is hermaphroditic and rules every kind of dualism Gemini which is also Virgo which is also Gemini which is also - get the point is more evolved and a more progressive planet than Mars - Mars is just spontanious combustion compared with Mercury Mars is primitive - not that Mars isn't basic its just that on separate platitudes Mercury is actually if not more powerful than Mars. This is the reason why Mercury is more progressive than Mars/Mars - Aries if you think about (Yes Think and Mercury rules 'thinking')it is just primitive energy - not that this is not really bad since Mars induces incentives to get over all obstacles, remove them (Masculine force) - destroy them and shall I say 'create space?' for development? such as upward pointing phallic structures? or maybe aeroplanes? And what do Aeroplanes remind you of? You might say that Pluto and Uranus are more progressive planets than even Mercury and Mars but then these two planets are unfathomable. When Man tried to fathom the void (Yes Void) or you might consider 'black holes' all that He could do was write 'scriptures' (Mercury rules Writing) Man created 'Gods', Man created 'Religions' and whatever else and these concepts are pathological delusions (which is a contradiction of Mercury - yes Mercury is dual and Mercury is contradictory) just in the manner that 'Capitalism' is a 'perversion' - think about it - 'Capitalism' is perversion but then the contradiction (Yes Contradiction) is that you and me are typing on a keyboard (Typing is ruled by Mercury) try to argue against that you will not succeed.
or is it suceed?
successful.
It depends on how you undersand Fire signs - Fire signs are Positive in polarity - and women born in Fire signs usually maintain positive progressive perspectives - no doubt about this but then for this very reason Women born in Masculine signs cannot be truely passive Women born in Feminine signs are passive maybe you didn't notice this, Women born in Masculine signs have Masculinized cognitive processes and so the idea of 'passivity' is actually a totally alien idea since they can only imitate true passivity which is really not possible - this is a weakness (not necessarily its just a quality that you lack which your opposite sign has) although I would say that compared with Women born in Feminine signs it balances out okay. Its alright and ordinaily what is masculine and what is feminine is great, its awesome! nobody would disagee with that.
(( how bout you? what are your thoughts on this? ))
I have a brain which process so much of data using the inputs gathered from my eyes, ears, tongue, skin, nose and the input medium which I prefer to call as X. It also access information from my stored memory cells and automatically processes various pattern matching and help itself in reaching a better accurate output. The processing pattern of brain remains almost the same at all times but the intensity of the processing varies with various time periods. I can only assume that it is due the magnetic influence of various planets until I figure out a better reason. The 6th component which I prefer to call X, provides me with binary inputs - a basic yes or no depending on the various probabilities my brain has constructed based on existing memory patterns and inputs. That determines the timing of my decision and the choices I make on a day to day basis.
My heart pumps necessary amount of blood(like electricity) required for the functioning of my brain(an engine) and I don't have any thing called mind nor soul nor spirit. If my food intake is not sufficient enough for the maintaining the necessary electricity for my engine, it exhibits variations in its accuracy of calculation based on voltage fluctuation.
'opposite polarity'.
What!? lol you're a Libra so that shouldn't be so strange.

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