I don't even know why I bother anymore

This topic was created in the Cancer forum by Cancer2448 on Wednesday, December 2, 2015 and has 91 replies.
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Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!
Just women being idiots, move on and date someone else. It just usually means they aren't looking for a relationship and you're relationship material. I have been through this Manu times.
She honestly cancelled the original first date scheduled. I left her alone for a couple days, and starting texting again. She said she cancelled because she needed to come out of her shell. She was afraid of getting hurt! Huh I guess after going on a date and getting her back on her feet. She thinks she's too good for me now! Unbelievable
@heart. Trust me when I say I'm not rich. I work at golf course and barely make enough to live on. I really hope the money I make wasn't a factor for her deciding if we should continue. I have a huge heart! I "raised" $ 1000 and more worth of stuff for this libra girl's sister when her house got burned down....and now we are no longer friends. She ignores me. That's what I got in return! So please don't question about my heart. I'm starting to understand why nice guys finish last!
Posted by Cancer2448
@heart. Trust me when I say I'm not rich. I work at golf course and barely make enough to live on. I really hope the money I make wasn't a factor for her deciding if we should continue. I have a huge heart! I "raised" $ 1000 and more worth of stuff for this libra girl's sister when her house got burned down....and now we are no longer friends. She ignores me. That's what I got in return! So please don't question about my heart. I'm starting to understand why nice guys finish last!



Aww, don't feel bad about yourself because she's manipulating asshole. You're playing into her little game now. Stop.
Leave her to some ass hole who will just dick her and leave her, then she'll find your value. Hopefully by then, youve found someone who is way better looking.
Posted by Greentea
Leave her to some ass hole who will just dick her and leave her, then she'll find your value. Hopefully by then, youve found someone who is way better looking.


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Posted by Cancer2448
@heart. Trust me when I say I'm not rich. I work at golf course and barely make enough to live on. I really hope the money I make wasn't a factor for her deciding if we should continue. I have a huge heart! I "raised" $ 1000 and more worth of stuff for this libra girl's sister when her house got burned down....and now we are no longer friends. She ignores me. That's what I got in return! So please don't question about my heart. I'm starting to understand why nice guys finish last!


You need to be calm. Move on and meet other women, there are lots of them out there and they will all fuck with you the same way. The moment you show interest, they're no longer interested. Most women just want attention and their need is satisfied once you give it to them. Unfortunate but true.
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Posted by Cancer2448
@heart. Trust me when I say I'm not rich. I work at golf course and barely make enough to live on. I really hope the money I make wasn't a factor for her deciding if we should continue. I have a huge heart! I "raised" $ 1000 and more worth of stuff for this libra girl's sister when her house got burned down....and now we are no longer friends. She ignores me. That's what I got in return! So please don't question about my heart. I'm starting to understand why nice guys finish last!


You need to be calm. Move on and meet other women, there are lots of them out there and they will all fuck with you the same way. The moment you show interest, they're no longer interested. Most women just want attention and their need is satisfied once you give it to them. Unfortunate but true.
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Agree, thank you.
Cancer woman here -
I am sorry you are going through this, she is honestly scared to settle. Let me explain to you why. We have this idea of the person were supossed to be with & when a guy who makes us happy comes along, although we might think theyre great etc , deep down were always thinking you lack something. Tbh, if you care about her you have to be very persistant speaking from my own experience. Im the type of girl who easily gets lads interested & ive never had a problem w that, yet ive only been in a relationship w one guy. What was diff in him? Persistance . & the reason why im not w him anymore is because he was very manipulative. So combine persistance w pure intentions/honesty & youll see the outcome.
Then again, you could go find another girl and i wouldnt blame you because its hard to win a cancers heart. But the outcome will deff be worth it. Once youve managed to do it , well be loyal , caring, fun & we will love you unconditionally. No joke - prob the reason why my ex still messages me almost every week after ages. Cause He knows he wont find better. Good luck!
Ps: i see some negative comments. Dont let people tell you youre wrong. You have every right to feel the way you do & youre not hurting anybody - so dont even bother replying. You yourself wil learn from your own experience how you should react - everybody has a diff way of dealing w shit & thats what makes this world a beautiful place. Diversity , so be youself cause this world needs people like yo too.
Posted by Cancer2448
Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!


I just don't think she's all that interested. So sorry. You sound like a fun date. Her loss!
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Posted by incandescentcancer
Just women being idiots, move on and date someone else. It just usually means they aren't looking for a relationship and you're relationship material. I have been through this Manu times.

Posted by incandescentcancer
Move on and meet other women, there are lots of them out there and they will all fuck with you the same way. The moment you show interest, they're no longer interested. Most women just want attention and their need is satisfied once you give it to them. Unfortunate but true.

Contrary to what most female dxp members may say, this is the sad reality IRL.

Posted by Heart
If it were me, in the early part of dating it would be just a coffee, walks, and long conversations over wine. Wait before spending money on her, as much as you would love to show off.

NEVER take a date to a restaurant until you have at least 2-3 dates with her under your belt. The number of stories I've heard of women just going through the motions, for either a free meal or night out, with no intention of seeing the man ever again, is shocking. Those first few dates should be about getting to know each other - not about impressing her with your money.

Posted by Greentea
Leave her to some ass hole who will just dick her and leave her, then she'll find your value. Hopefully by then, youve found someone who is way better looking.

Unfortunately, it's another sad reality that, I'm sure, the majority of female dxpers have been through themselves but are reluctant to admit it.

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Ehhh....maybe. Or maybe it appears that way. On a dinner date, you talk and can get to know each other, but if its just not clicking, then I wouldn't want a 2nd date. Then again, sometimes it takes 2-3 to be able to relax enough for things to click. If he's a good guy, then I'll go on 2-3 just to give it some time. But, if the guy does something that turns me off on the 1st date (like be rude to a waiter, for example), then I won't go on a 2nd one.

And something less expensive than dinner, like coffee or a free concert, is always a good idea because it's all about getting to know each other.
Let me ask you this, OP.

If you didn't respond to a text for four hours, what would be the reason?

It's not inappropriate with her to be responding to the other dude on Facebook, by the way. It was only one date afterall and at this point you should both be keeping your options open.

Just wanted to point that out.
Posted by truecap
It's not inappropriate with her to be responding to the other dude on Facebook, by the way. It was only one date afterall and at this point you should both be keeping your options open.

Just wanted to point that out.


I have other options, I just wanted this cancer girl because I thought she was sweet. Guess not, I'm seeing the ugly side here. I don't understand how it goes from her texting and calling me so much, to come to a screeching HALT! Makes no sense. She initialed contact a lot between the two of us. Never saw this coming, she talked about asking me to come to some of her cheerleading practices which she coaches. In return she would attend some of my tournaments. She brought that up not me.
I went on a date with a Gemini woman Monday, don't think we click. Our lifestyles are way too opposite. I seem to attract a lot of gemini's and Capricorns. But I'm a libra rising. I wish I could attract Scorpios, I had one great relationship with one. Until she cheated on me.
Posted by notafollower
Cancer woman here -
I am sorry you are going through this, she is honestly scared to settle. Let me explain to you why. We have this idea of the person were supossed to be with & when a guy who makes us happy comes along, although we might think theyre great etc , deep down were always thinking you lack something. Tbh, if you care about her you have to be very persistant speaking from my own experience. Im the type of girl who easily gets lads interested & ive never had a problem w that, yet ive only been in a relationship w one guy. What was diff in him? Persistance . & the reason why im not w him anymore is because he was very manipulative. So combine persistance w pure intentions/honesty & youll see the outcome.
Then again, you could go find another girl and i wouldnt blame you because its hard to win a cancers heart. But the outcome will deff be worth it. Once youve managed to do it , well be loyal , caring, fun & we will love you unconditionally. No joke - prob the reason why my ex still messages me almost every week after ages. Cause He knows he wont find better. Good luck!


Thank you for your kind words. But I worry about persistence. I was persistent on libra girl, the one I mentioned about raising over $ 1000 for her sister and her family. I was given advice to be persistent with her because of how libra like to play mind games. That didn't work, she hates my guts. I deleted her off all social media, she in return blocked me on everything. And won't give me the time of the day. I don't ever see her again. So I'm alittle gun shy of being persistent with this cancer girl.
Posted by BlackMamba
Does anybody else hate the OP???

Damn this vagina!


Wow! I don't have time to waste with going back and forth with an idiot like you! But i will say this, on my 22nd birthday I had a gun pointed at my face 1 foot away! I was protecting a girl (friend) from a psycho ex boyfriend who followed her to our local grocery store around our college and started trashing her car. Once she called the police, he came charging with the gun, and I pushed him back and stepped in front of my friend protecting her! I eventually got the guy to calm down and drop the gun and run off before the police came! I acted calm during that whole sequence! My uncle was a witness! Would have loved to see how you would have reacted in that situation "vagina!"
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Does anybody else hate the OP???

Damn this vagina!



Only u and it seems like you want a response from him


I don't! I just can't handle his weakness!

sheez dude needs to get some cajones!



I wanna know what you call strong or your idea of masculinity is
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She wants attention, so she says provocative things. Don't feed her habits.
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Does anybody else hate the OP???

Damn this vagina!



Only u and it seems like you want a response from him


I don't! I just can't handle his weakness!

sheez dude needs to get some cajones!



I wanna know what you call strong or your idea of masculinity is


My idea of Masculinity is never treat a woman like a princess. Ever!

I'm African we're second class citizens. Shrugs
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This is an unnecessary thought process. Granted he is going overboard with his rush to the rescue approach but there's no harm in treating a woman decently. If she doesn't reciprocate, eventually you move on.
Posted by YourFavoriteDXPMember
Crab goes with Fish, you whackos.



No the fuck they don't.

Crab WOMEN, go well with Pisces MEN (or so you say). Just your Cancer hasn't metastasized yet don't think it won't.

Don't be setting fishes up for failure, shoot.
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Does anybody else hate the OP???

Damn this vagina!



Only u and it seems like you want a response from him


I don't! I just can't handle his weakness!

sheez dude needs to get some cajones!



I wanna know what you call strong or your idea of masculinity is


My idea of Masculinity is never treat a woman like a princess. Ever!

I'm African we're second class citizens. Shrugs


This is an unnecessary thought process. Granted he is going overboard with his rush to the rescue approach but there's no harm in treating a woman decently. If she doesn't reciprocate, eventually you move on.


Did I say treat her indecently?

Men like this kid end up being jaded! He needs to know who to give his kindness towards. He thinks every chick deserves it!

Cut your losses man! You try and you move on! It's not neuroscience
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Almost all women behave the same way, they pull back and cut you off etc. It's become a norm in society and this guy is just a product of that.
Posted by Cancer2448
She honestly cancelled the original first date scheduled. I left her alone for a couple days, and starting texting again. She said she cancelled because she needed to come out of her shell. She was afraid of getting hurt! Huh I guess after going on a date and getting her back on her feet. She thinks she's too good for me now! Unbelievable


I'm sorry, but I feel that this was your first sign, and you ignored it?

Also, I don't believe fancy restaurant is appropriate for a first date. Nor do I think meeting each other's families was best at that time. Too much investment, too soon, it seems. But what do I know? I am asocial.
My co-worker, who just recently got out of a relationship, was dating a guy who showered her with gifts, spending $ 50 on a necklaced once and they barely knew each other a month. He took her to the beach, the Renaissance Fair, and he paid for everything. She texted me telling me she felt bad that he keeps spending all that money on her. I told her that she was so used to paying for everything for her other boyfriend (who used to blatantly ask to borrow money from her and ask her to drive her places) and that maybe she should just enjoy it because she deserves kind treatment. I told her that, if she still feels uncomfortable, she can gently suggest that he let her pay once in a while. Anyway, she's moving out of state now, and he got upset because he thinks she is going to find another guy. She didn't feel like dealing with him so she dumped him. Now, he's invested all of that in her, and for what?

I don't feel comfortable taking things from people, but that was how I was raised. But I am aware that it IS a level of investment, and I don't want guys making an investment thinking it will lead to something more. Pisces guy dated a girl for TWO WEEKS and was already making her bed in breakfast until one day he walked in on her and her ex doing it in her bed! Just...no. Men. Embrace the friend-zone. Let the woman stand on her own so you can see her as an individual. When you pour so much into us, it goes to our heads. It honestly does.
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My co-worker, who just recently got out of a relationship, was dating a guy who showered her with gifts, spending $ 50 on a necklaced once and they barely knew each other a month. He took her to the beach, the Renaissance Fair, and he paid for everything. She texted me telling me she felt bad that he keeps spending all that money on her. I told her that she was so used to paying for everything for her other boyfriend (who used to blatantly ask to borrow money from her and ask her to drive her places) and that maybe she should just enjoy it because she deserves kind treatment. I told her that, if she still feels uncomfortable, she can gently suggest that he let her pay once in a while. Anyway, she's moving out of state now, and he got upset because he thinks she is going to find another guy. She didn't feel like dealing with him so she dumped him. Now, he's invested all of that in her, and for what?

I don't feel comfortable taking things from people, but that was how I was raised. But I am aware that it IS a level of investment, and I don't want guys making an investment thinking it will lead to something more. Pisces guy dated a girl for TWO WEEKS and was already making her bed in breakfast until one day he walked in on her and her ex doing it in her bed! Just...no. Men. Embrace the friend-zone. Let the woman stand on her own so you can see her as an individual. When you pour so much into us, it goes to our heads. It honestly does.

What's his number? Big Grin
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Which one? Her ex that made her drive her everywhere? Tongue
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My co-worker, who just recently got out of a relationship, was dating a guy who showered her with gifts, spending $ 50 on a necklaced once and they barely knew each other a month. He took her to the beach, the Renaissance Fair, and he paid for everything. She texted me telling me she felt bad that he keeps spending all that money on her. I told her that she was so used to paying for everything for her other boyfriend (who used to blatantly ask to borrow money from her and ask her to drive her places) and that maybe she should just enjoy it because she deserves kind treatment. I told her that, if she still feels uncomfortable, she can gently suggest that he let her pay once in a while. Anyway, she's moving out of state now, and he got upset because he thinks she is going to find another guy. She didn't feel like dealing with him so she dumped him. Now, he's invested all of that in her, and for what?

I don't feel comfortable taking things from people, but that was how I was raised. But I am aware that it IS a level of investment, and I don't want guys making an investment thinking it will lead to something more. Pisces guy dated a girl for TWO WEEKS and was already making her bed in breakfast until one day he walked in on her and her ex doing it in her bed! Just...no. Men. Embrace the friend-zone. Let the woman stand on her own so you can see her as an individual. When you pour so much into us, it goes to our heads. It honestly does.

What's his number? Big Grin


Which one? Her ex that made her drive her everywhere? Tongue


oh no the good one ....the generous one Winking
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Lol, Lou!Laughing I don't know his number and there is no way to get it without seeming creepy! "Hey, girl, remember that ex of yours that spent money recklessly and then you dumped? Yeah, can I have his number to give to a woman I met on an online astrology site? 'Ppreciate it."
Posted by Cancer2448
Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!


Hey guy, the following can apply with a woman of any zodiac sign:

Don't invest so much right off the line.
You don't know what's going on in her head/going on in her life. Chances are she doesn't have her shit together, or just wasn't into you--not problem with you, and you're probably better off (as in you could be wasting your time and stressing yourself overthinking about a female who fits either of the two cases I mentioned).
Chalk it up to having a nice time with a member of the opposite sex and move on.

And once again, don't invest too much in any woman so early on.

Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
Posted by Cancer2448
Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!


Hey guy, the following can apply with a woman of any zodiac sign:

Don't invest so much right off the line.
You don't know what's going on in her head/going on in her life. Chances are she doesn't have her shit together, or just wasn't into you--not problem with you, and you're probably better off (as in you could be wasting your time and stressing yourself overthinking about a female who fits either of the two cases I mentioned).
Chalk it up to having a nice time with a member of the opposite sex and move on.

And once again, don't invest too much in any woman so early on.


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This is exactly why I think being a douchebag pays. In today's world, being nice to a woman I think is no longer a requirement.
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Posted by Cancer2448
Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!


Hey guy, the following can apply with a woman of any zodiac sign:

Don't invest so much right off the line.
You don't know what's going on in her head/going on in her life. Chances are she doesn't have her shit together, or just wasn't into you--not problem with you, and you're probably better off (as in you could be wasting your time and stressing yourself overthinking about a female who fits either of the two cases I mentioned).
Chalk it up to having a nice time with a member of the opposite sex and move on.

And once again, don't invest too much in any woman so early on.




This is exactly why I think being a douchebag pays. In today's world, being nice to a woman I think is no longer a requirement.
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One doesn't have to be a douchebag IMHO. One can be a gentleman who doesn't suffer fools gladly.
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One doesn't have to be a douchebag IMHO. One can be a gentleman who doesn't suffer fools gladly.


Tell me what's the incentive to be a gentleman? So that I can have the pleasure of taking care of a bastard she had with some douchebag before she met me?
Sad thing is, people get jaded in situations like this and the next person that come in to their lives pay for it. Not fair.
Posted by Cancer2448
Once I again I went on a first date, this time with a cancer girl. Took her to a fancy restaurant, than a Dave and buster's for games and stuff. I thought things went well. She brought up making bets when we played games, if I won she would give me a kiss at the end of the night. If she won, I would do a cartwheel in the parking lot. Both of us won, so that was settled. Then came thanksgiving break. So we travelled to see each other families, but she texted a lot over the break, even snapchat. When we both got back I started asking her out for a second date....first try, nope " i can't I work that day." Ok what's your next week schedule like? " I'm off Tuesday but have projects to do." Ok no big deal. That was Sunday. Well I got my schedule today and wanted to ask if she was off Friday. I first asked how her day went....never got a response for 4 hours. I go on her Facebook and she's commenting back and forth with this guy. I sent a funny snap to her earlier today. She viewed it but didn't send anything back. I don't understand, things I thought were going well enough for a 2nd date to happen in the future. And now I'm being ignored by her! What the heck!


Is it really that complicated?
She communicated with you and were still looking.
Now she found one she will probably meet and dumped for another one.
Until she will meet THE ONE she will fall for head over hills...
She was simply spending free time with you. Move on.
Posted by LuckyLibra979You have to be a selective gentleman tho. U can't treat every woman the same some women don't like romance. Some do, some are bitches and will ignore u even on the date. Its a variety out there but the last thing u wanna do is come off soft


I agree with you. As far as the bitchy/ignoring part-I have cut off dates with a short explanation why.
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.
The only thing where I think the girl is wrong is where she ignores you and is being a coward about what she feels for you, but then again that's what cancerian sign is all about; being evasive and side stepping.

Her behaviour shouldn't prevent you from doing this for someone else. However, if you should go all out and be extravagant, then do so without any expectation of reciprocity.
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OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


im like this, it's not trying to buy someone's affections, its because we care so much we are very giving, especially if you have leo placements

i love to show love through taking care of my mate

problem is i also need reciprocation so when im not even getting a third of the effort im putting in

well it becomes a problem

so really we need to find people like us

people who love to shower their mates with attention and love

not cardboards or robots or users
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If you wanna be like that, that's fine and dandy but don't think that the person you spent money on should love you back or date you. It's not that you have to find people like you, you have to find people who like you back in order to reciprocate your generous actions.
My aunt has Leo placements and she showers me with affection and gifts and because I love her right back, I shower her with gifts and affection right back, but if I didn't like my aunt, I wouldn't reciprocate her sentiments but that doesn't make me a robot or a user.
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


HOW in the world did you planned on getting him OFF your back by going out with you
knowing that he WANT you?
Posted by BlackMamba
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


im like this, it's not trying to buy someone's affections, its because we care so much we are very giving, especially if you have leo placements

i love to show love through taking care of my mate

problem is i also need reciprocation so when im not even getting a third of the effort im putting in

well it becomes a problem

so really we need to find people like us

people who love to shower their mates with attention and love

not cardboards or robots or users
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You're full of shit. The reason why you're so stuck on your virgo is because he shots on you. Face it, you're just like othe women. Treat you too good, you're bored and you walk all over them
Posted by BlackMamba
Posted by aquarius09
My aunt has Leo placements and she showers me with affection and gifts and because I love her right back, I shower her with gifts and affection right back, but if I didn't like my aunt, I wouldn't reciprocate her sentiments but that doesn't make me a robot or a user.


actually it does if you stick around receiving such gifts knowing that you don't like your aunt.

that's a user.
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Absolutely! I agree with you but imagine a scenario where you tell your aunt or lover that you don't like them like that and they still continue to shower gifts? What does that make the person who likes you?
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


HOW in the world did you planned on getting him OFF your back by going out with you
knowing that he WANT you?
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If I list each and every thing that he did to annoy me, then it would make sense. One would be to threaten to slit his wrist and I was young so I actually believed suicidal threats.
Posted by BlackMamba
Posted by aquarius09
Posted by BlackMamba
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


im like this, it's not trying to buy someone's affections, its because we care so much we are very giving, especially if you have leo placements

i love to show love through taking care of my mate

problem is i also need reciprocation so when im not even getting a third of the effort im putting in

well it becomes a problem

so really we need to find people like us

people who love to shower their mates with attention and love

not cardboards or robots or users


If you wanna be like that, that's fine and dandy but don't think that the person you spent money on should love you back or date you. It's not that you have to find people like you, you have to find people who like you back in order to reciprocate your generous actions.


im also talking about after establishing a relationship, not prior.
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Alright, I'm gonna take astrological standpoint now. Virgo is treating you shitty and your cancerian self is not only sticking around but you're probably showering him with gifts. You're not some philanthropist showering him with gifts hoping nothing in return.
Yoru want him to reciprocate which he isn't. There's an ulterior motive. Him reaping the benefits you give him make him a user? How does that work?
If somebody wants to buy me goods and I tell them I'm not interested in you like that and they persist, how does that make me a user?

There are bunch of desperate people like that out there that don't comprehend disinterest.
Posted by Gemitati
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


HOW in the world did you planned on getting him OFF your back by going out with you
knowing that he WANT you?
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He was very persistent to the point of annoying the crap out of me but mind you he was a great friend that I didn't want to lose. I kept saying I'm not compatible with you and nor am I physically attracted to you. Normal person would be too hurt to even consider such a mean love interest but he said why don't u just give me one chance. Let me take you out. So I gave him that one chance that he kept asking for.
Posted by BlackMamba
i dont' shower him with gifts, but i am thoughtful of him, for instance i saw a throw that he really loves of mine for $ 10 at Fred Meyer. So i bought it, but i wont' give it to him.

that's just how my mind works, not like i need to give him a gift, but i think of him as a person, meeting his needs, like he needs gloves, and a hat, if i see a good price ill think about buying them, but i wont.

my problem stems from the fact that i took care of my siblings for the last 15 years in terms of "fun' activities, things, movies, coffees, etc etc...so it's become a habit to think about people in my life.

it has nothing to do with the Virgo...but i hate that the virgo makes me feel like i have to not be myself...i have to protect myself...

i want to be able to cook a lasagna just cause i want to please my dude without thinking how is he going to fuk this up.


Aww, CC you're such a beautiful person. Why don't you go and give all this to someone who doesn't make you think "how is he going to fuck this up?"
Posted by BlackMamba
Posted by aquarius09
Yoru want him to reciprocate which he isn't. There's an ulterior motive. Him reaping the benefits you give him make him a user? How does that work?



i don't have ulterior motives, that's just how i roll, you can say we're incompatible. I'm a giver, he's a miser.

I've already explained to him what my motives are. Marriage and Kids. I'm highly attracted to him. I think he'd be a great dad, because he's smart, he can teach my kids math and science. To me that's important.

other than that what other motives do i have.

i just want to love and be loved.
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I think like that as well but what marriage and kids are you gonna have with a dude that makes you miserable?
Posted by LuckyLibra979
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by CancerOnTheCusp
One doesn't have to be a douchebag IMHO. One can be a gentleman who doesn't suffer fools gladly.


Tell me what's the incentive to be a gentleman? So that I can have the pleasure of taking care of a bastard she had with some douchebag before she met me?



O that's your take on fatherhood? Taking care of another persons bastard huh?
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If the child is not mine and it is born to another person out of wedlock, technically the child is a bastard.
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


All this sounds great and I agree with most of what you said. But, women today for the most parts are spoilt and entitled. The disrespect men put up with is extraordinary, personally I maintain distance from most women both due to lack of trust and active dislike. I may reach a point where I use women purely for sex and keep them out of every other aspect of my life. Frankly, each day I hear women and their shallow nonsense that add sounds more attractive.
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by aquarius09
OP, the girl is not interested in you. Her reason for going on a date can vary from giving you a chance to see what's out there to simply enjoying your company minus romantic interest.

YOU chose to spend so much money and do all the great things you did. She never told you to do that for her. Somehow you have this expectation/sense of entitlement that she should now reciprocate your feelings. That seems to be cancer male dilemma. I personally find cancer men in my life to be the type to buy someone's affection. I had a cancer guy friend who had a crush on me and after all his persistence I decided to give him a chance and went out with him. I only did it to get him off my back. He did go all out and I felt overwhelmed. After that date I told him that I don't think this is gonna work out and in his emotional outburst he said most of the things you're saying in your OP. Boy, oh, boy, did he go all crazy. He said, "WTF is your problem?! What kinda guy do you want anyways? The one that treats you like shit! I got your flowers and put candles all around! It took time to put candles all around. Who's fucking gonna do that for you? No one's gonna love you like I do" blah blah blah and once he was done I told him "Wow! You were trying to buy my affection...." Anyways after his outburst where his ulterior motive was showing, I didn't feel so bad.


All this sounds great and I agree with most of what you said. But, women today for the most parts are spoilt and entitled. The disrespect men put up with is extraordinary, personally I maintain distance from most women both due to lack of trust and active dislike. I may reach a point where I use women purely for sex and keep them out of every other aspect of my life. Frankly, each day I hear women and their shallow nonsense that add sounds more attractive.
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Oh, I hear you. I use to work in a female dominated office and while conversing with most of them, I would zone out and think to myself, "Well, I know turning a lesbian isn't an option if I ever completely give up on men." LOL Seriously, I'm glad I'm in a new office.
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