new date etiquette

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GUys, im having a second date with cancerian man tonight after an amazing first date (still smiling)!! But, its sooo freaking cold (here in Scotland), that although i want to see him, i prefer be at home with him in my house. Is it too soon? All this dating etiquette is insane, but i wnder what other people think about inviting someone roundfor date night 2?
have him over for nice dinner and let him know ahead of time that the date is over at .... pick a time midnight and that's when he has to go ... you could even be up front that the reason you want the date at your house is because its too cold to go out. Lot's of ways to make it "not too forward" ... lol, but then if its too cold for him to go home, well then its too cold for him to go home. But if you set the expectation ahead of time, you kinda keep the power in the situation.
I agree with this.guy.
Too soon, try to pick a place nearby.
Where in Scotland are you?
Posted by jru2
have him over for nice dinner and let him know ahead of time that the date is over at .... pick a time midnight and that's when he has to go ... you could even be up front that the reason you want the date at your house is because its too cold to go out. Lot's of ways to make it "not too forward" ... lol, but then if its too cold for him to go home, well then its too cold for him to go home. But if you set the expectation ahead of time, you kinda keep the power in the situation.


I see what you are doing here. Men love their late night dinners don't they?
Midnight is waaaay to late. 9pm is too late for a in-house date. This is the 2nd date!
You don't want late evening hours.
A late afternoon lunch would be more appropriate. Once they get to know each other better.
Posted by Sola
GUys, im having a second date with cancerian man tonight after an amazing first date (still smiling)!! But, its sooo freaking cold (here in Scotland), that although i want to see him, i prefer be at home with him in my house. Is it too soon? All this dating etiquette is insane, but i wnder what other people think about inviting someone roundfor date night 2?


Just have him for dinner, don't fall for these silly social conventions. Every guy doesn't think that an invitation for a nice homemade dinner is a sign to "get in there". I think you should be cool, a man takes liberties only when he smells weakness in a woman.
well, we agreed it was so freezing that he should come round here. He did and we just hung about chatting, he didnt want to eat so that was cool. He left at 11pm, because we both work early morning so it was a good idea..very relaxed and informal. smile
..but since that day he has been w.e.i.r.d. He told me he wasnt able to meet over the weekend, didnt reply to my message over the weekend and then on Monday sent me a few words saying he was busy,, no "hey, how are you, how was your weekend?", just a pretty cold vibe. So i told him, i didnt want to meet this week, because i havent been getting a good energy from him over the last week. He hasnt answered me. Hmm, i could have sworn there was a mutual spark..i would have really liked to get somewhere with this guy. Never mind, his ilence is LOUD AND CLEAR!
Did you sleep with him? (Apologies for being so forward)...
Mocha
Holy shit my Give-A-Fuck meter just blew up.
ummm, well yes. But, as far as im concerned it was already established that we liked each other and both understood that neither of us was into one night stands. So, why couldnt it have been 2 ADULTS (which we both are) doing something we both wanted, instead of the whole "oh shes a slut..she enjoys sex..how i can i take anyone who wants to enjoy sex together as someone i REALLY see myself with in the future). That is such a dated, pathetic opinion, that if that is the sole reason he has for being a professional arsehole, that im glad hes over it.
And let this be a note to any cancerian men who are thinking about starting or involving themselves with a libra..get some balls!!
Posted by Sola
And let this be a note to any cancerian men who are thinking about starting or involving themselves with a libra..get some balls!!


Hi
You don't have a monopoly being a Libra I'm a Gemini with a Cancer rising and although my situation is slightly different I think my Cancer man is stringing me along ............ he is sweet thoughtful etc., but he is CONFUSED !! HE did answer my messages immediately he phoned every night he helps me out when I need help ............ but I feel he is using me ........ !!
And now, who cares what we are! Ignorance and double standards are my number1 turn off. So i would actually thank him..if i hadnt already deleted his number, shamazing smile
Posted by Sola
ummm, well yes. But, as far as im concerned it was already established that we liked each other and both understood that neither of us was into one night stands. So, why couldnt it have been 2 ADULTS (which we both are) doing something we both wanted, instead of the whole "oh shes a slut..she enjoys sex..how i can i take anyone who wants to enjoy sex together as someone i REALLY see myself with in the future). That is such a dated, pathetic opinion, that if that is the sole reason he has for being a professional arsehole, that im glad hes over it.


Did you sleep with him that day he came to your house for supper?
yeah, it was that night (i dont know why im laughing)!!
let us know when he pokes his head back out of his shell....i give him a week, two at the most.
No way..he cant have any time. Come on, double standards and ignorance..surely all female turn-offs?? He can "peek out" today, tomorrow, next month, it wont matter because he has acted no better than a child, and for that reason, he had his chance, and blew it royally.
Posted by Sola
No way..he cant have any time. Come on, double standards and ignorance..surely all female turn-offs?? He can "peek out" today, tomorrow, next month, it wont matter because he has acted no better than a child, and for that reason, he had his chance, and blew it royally.


Did you stop to think for a moment that he needs time to process what actually happened? You invited him to your place saying it was too cold to go out and then WHAM nailed him, I think that's a lot for any guy to think over for atleast a bit. He is a Cancer and is simply not going to move fast enough to suit your agenda. All the double standards nonsense is merely your speculation.
ummm, what agenda? Well he is 32, not exactly a virgin. We had sex..its not like analysing rocket science. I get that he could be thinking about it, but you know, why the kid gloves? When he came over it was SO obvious it was his intention..i didnt take him by surprise or just mount him mid conversation. He was practically sat there trembling with sexual anticipation. SO, anyway from that night on he has trckled away slowly but surely..its only speculation as to whether or not he will come back for more..i just dont bet on it.
Posted by Sola
ummm, what agenda? Well he is 32, not exactly a virgin. We had sex..its not like analysing rocket science. I get that he could be thinking about it, but you know, why the kid gloves? When he came over it was SO obvious it was his intention..i didnt take him by surprise or just mount him mid conversation. He was practically sat there trembling with sexual anticipation. SO, anyway from that night on he has trckled away slowly but surely..its only speculation as to whether or not he will come back for more..i just dont bet on it.


hunh? Maybe he wants to analyze whether there is relationship potential or not, I know I would. Cancers won't waste time if they feel no relationship potential in general, it will be, "had sex, move on". I think he might believe that's all you wanted as well (a night of sex), I don't think you understand the situation correctly here.
ok, so lets rewind. The day after the "passion" (and i would just like to add he spent the rest of that night telling me his life story) i text him just to say "hey what you doing today" etc. He texts me back almost at midnight, saying he'd had a busy day etc, all good. He told me he was tired, but that that wasnt the reason he wasnt going to be able to see me over the weekend but what about meeting the next week. I said ok, i will text you Monday or Tuesday and let you know what night suits me (because i have 2 kids and he has 1). So i did text him on Monday..and he sends me like 3 lines of attitude, no "hi, how are you, or how was your weekend". So i said, you know, i dont know if we should me meet, because im not getting a good vibe from you these past few days. You tell me there are reasons you cant se me and dont tell me what they are. You text me with an attitude. Obviously he doesnt answer and it pisses me off. So Tuesday i text him "what about the spark we had, or didnt you feel it?" he doesnt answer of course. I feel like i really let him know that i wanted to see him again in a dating scenario, i have never sent anything nasty to him. All i know is he has not contacted me in 5 days and it would have been nicer to have said something instead of nothing. Im not a little girl, i can handle it of someone has a change of heart. But guessing games are just gross.
I'm sorry it didn't go the way you planned Sola.
What exactly did you want from him?
You got the dinner at your house. You even got the sex.
Perhaps things didn't go as he planned, or maybe they did.
It's pretty much going the way I expected it to.
It's unfortunate the men on this site aren't completely forthcoming with women in these matters.
I didnt have a plan, so i cant say that i got what i wanted, i just went with what happened on the day. I wanted to know him, to see him regularly, and for things to develop..i guess all 3 are out of the window now.
Posted by Sola
ok, so lets rewind. The day after the "passion" (and i would just like to add he spent the rest of that night telling me his life story) i text him just to say "hey what you doing today" etc. He texts me back almost at midnight, saying he'd had a busy day etc, all good. He told me he was tired, but that that wasnt the reason he wasnt going to be able to see me over the weekend but what about meeting the next week. I said ok, i will text you Monday or Tuesday and let you know what night suits me (because i have 2 kids and he has 1). So i did text him on Monday..and he sends me like 3 lines of attitude, no "hi, how are you, or how was your weekend". So i said, you know, i dont know if we should me meet, because im not getting a good vibe from you these past few days. You tell me there are reasons you cant se me and dont tell me what they are. You text me with an attitude. Obviously he doesnt answer and it pisses me off. So Tuesday i text him "what about the spark we had, or didnt you feel it?" he doesnt answer of course. I feel like i really let him know that i wanted to see him again in a dating scenario, i have never sent anything nasty to him. All i know is he has not contacted me in 5 days and it would have been nicer to have said something instead of nothing. Im not a little girl, i can handle it of someone has a change of heart. But guessing games are just gross.


I don't know where the guessing game is here, looks like things didn't work out the way you want it that's all. If you had a good time on the night of "passion" that's all, move on. Women tend to expect more once they sleep with a guy, men don't, that's pretty much it. This doesn't have anything at all to do with him judging you.
we "met online" about a month ago..we were chatting everyday, texting, so it led me to belive that we were starting to date with the mutual criteria that we were looking for a long-term relationship. He didnt need to meet me ever, or plan a second date if he wasnt interested after the first one. By sleeping with me and then fucking off, im thinking what did i do wrong? Thats wrong, thats what you dont get. He should just have said that he wasnt interested in keeping contact or date 3..simple.
Posted by LunarMaiden

It's unfortunate the men on this site aren't completely forthcoming with women in these matters.



Men are not a monolithic bloc, what works for one doesn't work for others. Further there are so many differences, cultural, nationality based, race and then there are those little town/big cities differences. I can offer only my perspective, can't speak for others. Why don't you tell me why women seek relationship from every sexual contacts? Why can't we all just have sex, be friends and live comfortably....
Posted by Sola
we "met online" about a month ago..we were chatting everyday, texting, so it led me to belive that we were starting to date with the mutual criteria that we were looking for a long-term relationship. He didnt need to meet me ever, or plan a second date if he wasnt interested after the first one. By sleeping with me and then fucking off, im thinking what did i do wrong? Thats wrong, thats what you dont get. He should just have said that he wasnt interested in keeping contact or date 3..simple.


Now it's clearer, he just used the dating website as a "have sex in your neighborhood with a horny chick this weekend" website. You were just late catching on to the game. Hate the game don't hate the player Winking.
Women dont expect a relationship from every sexual encounter, unless they are led to believe thats going to be the case (as in mine). Thats the instance where someone ends up hurt (me).
Posted by Sola
Women dont expect a relationship from every sexual encounter, unless they are led to believe thats going to be the case (as in mine). Thats the instance where someone ends up hurt (me).


I am still unable to understand what were his actions that led you to believe he wanted more? Because he told you his life story?
Come over, pants down, do the deed, goodbye. Thats what i call just looking for sex. Not asking about me, my life, calling me, texting me, dating, telling me about your family, job, children, blh de blah. Hes confused, clearly.
Posted by Sola
Come over, pants down, do the deed, goodbye. Thats what i call just looking for sex. Not asking about me, my life, calling me, texting me, dating, telling me about your family, job, children, blh de blah. Hes confused, clearly.


He is Cancer, it's just this version of wham bam thank you ma'am. Cancers prattle on about things despite their motivation being totally sexual. I would even tell a stripper all those things...lol. Cancers use these conversations for stimulating emotions so that it enhances the quality of the sex.
So thats the bottom line then. They arent all feeling, emotional, lovey dovey souls..they are hard nosed screwers just like everybody else smile Thanks for clearing that up. Have a nice day!
Posted by Sola
So thats the bottom line then. They arent all feeling, emotional, lovey dovey souls..they are hard nosed screwers just like everybody else smile Thanks for clearing that up. Have a nice day!


Pretty much, sorry that I had to be the one to break it to you in all this pain. I just prefer to be straight forward and honest. Have a nice day too!
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by LunarMaiden

It's unfortunate the men on this site aren't completely forthcoming with women in these matters.



Men are not a monolithic bloc, what works for one doesn't work for others. Further there are so many differences, cultural, nationality based, race and then there are those little town/big cities differences. I can offer only my perspective, can't speak for others.


Funny you didn't mention this with the initial response it was, "oh go have that late night dinner with the Cancer man." Of course he's got the tail so now it's easy to come back and say all men are different. I swear some of you men are as wicked as the devil himself. She asked you for your help and you blew it! Why didn't you tell her the truth. That when a man enters a woman's home the first thing on his mind is where is the bedroom and which couch would be more comfortable for the pile drive.
Posted by incandescentcancer
Why don't you tell me why women seek relationship from every sexual contacts? Why can't we all just have sex, be friends and live comfortably....
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Now I'm coming for you with my spears. You really need to stop it! Men and women are NOT friends! Unless you are a hedonist it is not possible to fuck, chuck and be friends. A comfortable life for who, You? It's not comfortable for someone looking for a monogamous relationship. Laying up with a guy who wants no commitment doesn't work in MY favor. And it's about me, not you! And if you only want sex, then say so and stick to those kind of women who meet your needs. But then again straightforward sex with no complications and manipulations just isn't fun I guess.
Now to answer your other question, I assume you mean why do women seek relationships from men after sexual encounters? Right? Well because women are foolish when it comes to men. She wanted a committed relationship before the sex. But did not stay the course. We actually think sex will bring us closer together but it actual pulls us further apart. Much of what we think of a man is part of a fantasy. Many of us have not learned to categorize men, comes from inexperience.
You are insanely naive m'dear.
One, it's not a dating etiquette thing, it's a COMMON SENSE thing. Inviting a guy over for a date = sex in their heads. They are male after all.
The fact that you fucked him the same night is what left you in this bind because he lost respect for you. When are some of you ladies going to learn that when you fuck a guy too soon, he will up and leave and be a total jerk? Not all guys are like this but far too many are and you can't expect them to stay the same. It's frustrating when you want to go into it as "just sex" and be "adult" about it, but it just doesn't work that way with these guys. If you really want to get to know a guy and be more in any sense, giving it up after the second date is pure failure. Asking things about you and sharing his stuff does not equate wanting a long term relationship. It just indicates interest. Had you held out longer, you probably would have seen his intention.
Plain and simple- you pretty much turned yourself into an easy target on this one. You invited him over too soon and you gave it up too fast. He got what he wanted and he's gone. It sucks, but you seriously set yourself up. COMMON SENSE. Use it. :/
Also, fuck the guys who responded in the beginning of this, encouraging you to do so. What the hell? THEY even know it's a bad idea, yet they encouraged it. Always looking out for eachother's penises...
Posted by Sola
I didnt have a plan, so i cant say that i got what i wanted, i just went with what happened on the day. I wanted to know him, to see him regularly, and for things to develop..i guess all 3 are out of the window now.



Sola come on now, woman to woman. You didn't have visions of you two lip locking, and twisted up in a naked embrace after dinner at your place? You wanted this man in your home. Per your first post. It wasn't THAT cold outside. I checked the weather in Scotland it was 49-50F that is not cold. It's a bit of a bite but not to cold to be in a restaurant or some place where you too can keep your clothes on. You may not have planned to have sex but when there is a strong attraction there is a likelihood it will lead in that direction.
There is a reason for dating etiquette and it for this situation right here. To protect our interests. The fact that you started this thread says you had misgivings about your choice. Why did you create this thread?
If you wanted to know him, see him regularly you can't be having sex as you get to know him. Sex is powerful, you can't give your power away and expect to be seen as an equal. Protect yourself, get to know him first, when he has shown he truly cares for you and is in it for the long haul then you may introduce sex. Not everyone can handle sex early before relationship. Especially Cancer men! And the guys here know this. If he can handle/want it, he will contact you shortly. And you have to understand that you made a choice. He didn't force you, you took a chance. You can't just be out there doing willy nilly stuff with men. They have categories. I hope this helps.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
You are insanely naive m'dear.
One, it's not a dating etiquette thing, it's a COMMON SENSE thing. Inviting a guy over for a date = sex in their heads. They are male after all.
The fact that you fucked him the same night is what left you in this bind because he lost respect for you. When are some of you ladies going to learn that when you fuck a guy too soon, he will up and leave and be a total jerk? Not all guys are like this but far too many are and you can't expect them to stay the same. It's frustrating when you want to go into it as "just sex" and be "adult" about it, but it just doesn't work that way with these guys. If you really want to get to know a guy and be more in any sense, giving it up after the second date is pure failure. Asking things about you and sharing his stuff does not equate wanting a long term relationship. It just indicates interest. Had you held out longer, you probably would have seen his intention.
Plain and simple- you pretty much turned yourself into an easy target on this one. You invited him over too soon and you gave it up too fast. He got what he wanted and he's gone. It sucks, but you seriously set yourself up. COMMON SENSE. Use it. :/
Also, fuck the guys who responded in the beginning of this, encouraging you to do so. What the hell? THEY even know it's a bad idea, yet they encouraged it. Always looking out for eachother's penises...


We need a thank you button. These guys were looking out for a fellow Cancer male. Plain and simple! You would think that guys have a secret contract to allow another guy to sniff his penis after he scores.
Posted by LunarMaiden
Funny you didn't mention this with the initial response it was, "oh go have that late night dinner with the Cancer man." Of course he's got the tail so now it's easy to come back and say all men are different. I swear some of you men are as wicked as the devil himself. She asked you for your help and you blew it! Why didn't you tell her the truth. That when a man enters a woman's home the first thing on his mind is where is the bedroom and which couch would be more comfortable for the pile drive.


Firstly calm down. Second this rant is absolutely unfair, the question she asked was if it was ok to invite him for dinner since it was too cold outside and it had nothing to do with sex so I said yes. Not just that on this very same thread she lied, initially when someone asked her how the date went she said it was fine and he left at 11, later she admitted she had sex. Her intentions were not as pure as you are making it out to be. If he was the only one who wanted to have sex and she didn't it would be called "rape", that's not what happened here. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant. this men are all evil and women are angels angle really has to stop, it makes you look very biased.
Posted by LunarMaidenNow I'm coming for you with my spears. You really need to stop it! Men and women are NOT friends! Unless you are a hedonist it is not possible to fuck, chuck and be friends. A comfortable life for who, You? It's not comfortable for someone looking for a monogamous relationship. Laying up with a guy who wants no commitment doesn't work in MY favor. And it's about me, not you! And if you only want sex, then say so and stick to those kind of women who meet your needs. But then again straightforward sex with no complications and manipulations just isn't fun I guess.
Now to answer your other question, I assume you mean why do women seek relationships from men after sexual encounters? Right? Well because women are foolish when it comes to men. She wanted a committed relationship before the sex. But did not stay the course. We actually think sex will bring us closer together but it actual pulls us further apart. Much of what we think of a man is part of a fantasy. Many of us have not learned to categorize men, comes from inexperience.


1) To answer the first part, I have several female friends and your view that men and women can't be friends is absolutely invalid. In some (not too often) of these cases the women have even slept with me and we still continue to be friends, nothing hedonistic about it. This guy never told her he wanted commitment from her, heck this was the second date they couldn't even have talked about it. Who knows maybe the sex wasn't very good...we don't know the facts here, we only know what she told us. You are getting mad at me for no reason. So there was no manipulation as far as I can see.
2) Women seek relationships with men after sex because a lot of women are just uncomfortable with the idea that they could seek free sex as easily as any men. They simply don't feel equal in their own heads, nothing more to it.
Your anger at me is completely misguided.
Posted by LunarMaiden
We need a thank you button. These guys were looking out for a fellow Cancer male. Plain and simple! You would think that guys have a secret contract to allow another guy to sniff his penis after he scores.


You're really twisting the facts to suit your mental image of a wronged woman now.
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by LunarMaiden
Funny you didn't mention this with the initial response it was, "oh go have that late night dinner with the Cancer man." Of course he's got the tail so now it's easy to come back and say all men are different. I swear some of you men are as wicked as the devil himself. She asked you for your help and you blew it! Why didn't you tell her the truth. That when a man enters a woman's home the first thing on his mind is where is the bedroom and which couch would be more comfortable for the pile drive.


Firstly calm down. Second this rant is absolutely unfair, the question she asked was if it was ok to invite him for dinner since it was too cold outside and it had nothing to do with sex so I said yes. Not just that on this very same thread she lied, initially when someone asked her how the date went she said it was fine and he left at 11, later she admitted she had sex. Her intentions were not as pure as you are making it out to be. If he was the only one who wanted to have sex and she didn't it would be called "rape", that's not what happened here. But hey, let's not let facts get in the way of a good rant. this men are all evil and women are angels angle really has to stop, it makes you look very biased.

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Completely not what I was saying. The point was 2nd date at her house = bad idea. Sex is always involved when two people are attracted to each other and are dating. It was obvious where it was going. I never claimed she was innocent, check post directed at her. You mistake passion for anger.
Posted by LunarMaiden
Completely not what I was saying. The point was 2nd date at her house = bad idea. Sex is always involved when two people are attracted to each other and are dating. It was obvious where it was going. I never claimed she was innocent, check post directed at her. You mistake passion for anger.


Why would second date at her home be a bad idea if she had no intention of having sex? You're just being an apologist for her inability to say no. I have been to someone's home for a second date and no we did not have sex. I even mentioned in my post that every guy doesn't come home with an intention of having sex. The pertinent question you should be asking her is if he seduced her...that would clear up a lot of things. But you making it out that I was somehow encouraging her to have sex with him on the second date is unacceptable.
IC, I am in no way an apologist for her. I try to be a realist in these matters!
If everyone could stick to intentions we wouldn't have so many unplanned pregnancies.
Which is why I encouraged her to go to a restaurant or have an afternoon lunch.
I agree not every man has the intention to have sex with a woman on a date but that's not the point.
Sexual attraction and action is the point and the best intention can and do go out the window in a sensual environment which would be her home. There is a reason she posted this thread.
IC are you saying you didn't think there was a possibility that it could turn out the way it did?

Posted by aurora
There is nothing wrong with having second date at your house for whatever reasons. There is nothing wrong with not having sex at this kind of date. There is also nothing wrong with having sex at second date.
But it's wrong, really wrong to be so inconsistent with yourself. You opened a thread with a question, is it wrong to invite a guy to a second date at my house? Because you didn't want to send him a wrong message, and that is to invite him to have sex. So, you clearly wasn't comfortable with an idea to have sex with him. So, why did you do it? That's the important question. Did you think that you owe him that by inviting him so soon? Did you think, the hell with my fears/doubts/whatever and I'll just do it? You didn't even want to admit here that you did have sex, so you've must be ashamed. My conclusion is that the sex was bad with so much pressure from your side. And my honest advice, never do that again. Make a decision which is natural to you, and keep it.


Atleast someone has the right perspective here...cheers!
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by aurora
There is nothing wrong with having second date at your house for whatever reasons. There is nothing wrong with not having sex at this kind of date. There is also nothing wrong with having sex at second date.
But it's wrong, really wrong to be so inconsistent with yourself. You opened a thread with a question, is it wrong to invite a guy to a second date at my house? Because you didn't want to send him a wrong message, and that is to invite him to have sex. So, you clearly wasn't comfortable with an idea to have sex with him. So, why did you do it? That's the important question. Did you think that you owe him that by inviting him so soon? Did you think, the hell with my fears/doubts/whatever and I'll just do it? You didn't even want to admit here that you did have sex, so you've must be ashamed. My conclusion is that the sex was bad with so much pressure from your side. And my honest advice, never do that again. Make a decision which is natural to you, and keep it.


Atleast someone has the right perspective here...cheers!
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Posted by Sola
Women dont expect a relationship from every sexual encounter, unless they are led to believe thats going to be the case (as in mine). Thats the instance where someone ends up hurt (me).


Did he say it was okay to have sex on the 2nd date and that he would still be interested?
Posted by LunarMaiden

Sexual attraction and action is the point and the best intention can and do go out the window in a sensual environment which would be her home. There is a reason she posted this thread.
IC are you saying you didn't think there was a possibility that it could turn out the way it did?




The possibilities are irrelevant. The question she asked was very simple and innocent, is it ok to invite a dude over for dinner and I said yes. I don't have to think about whether she can control her emotions or not, that's really none of my business. You are asking me to imagine hypothetical scenarios and devise answers which I really don't need to. I wish every woman would accept your "the best intention can and do go out the window in a sensual environment" argument when a man cheats.
Posted by incandescentcancer
Posted by LunarMaiden

Sexual attraction and action is the point and the best intention can and do go out the window in a sensual environment which would be her home. There is a reason she posted this thread.
IC are you saying you didn't think there was a possibility that it could turn out the way it did?




The possibilities are irrelevant. The question she asked was very simple and innocent, is it ok to invite a dude over for dinner and I said yes. I don't have to think about whether she can control her emotions or not, that's really none of my business. You are asking me to imagine hypothetical scenarios and devise answers which I really don't need to. I wish every woman would accept your "the best intention can and do go out the window in a sensual environment" argument when a man cheats.
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Come on now if you felt it was enough of your business to respond to her question why not follow through and give insight into how men think. We aren't talking about men cheating. Stay on topic please.
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