Why Would a Capricon Get Married and Then have an affair (Page 2)

To the op,

He's compartmentalizing.

His wife is the marriage material and his mistress is the woman he can feel romantic or himself with.

Some men do this and it doesn't make sense to the female mind.

Men are more logical about choosing life partners (this one, in the extreme) and women are more comfortable making the emotional decision.

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Smh.

OP, I know you care for you friend but in truth she's just as selfish as the guy is...if not more. She found out he was engaged FOUR MONTHS before he got married which is plenty of time to break it off...but she refused to see past what she wanted and she got it. She's not a victim a d yes he's equally responsible.

What raises my ire is that no one ever thinks about the spouse in these situations. He/she is the one who is getting it the worst. It always involves some bull crap flight of fancy exaggerated love story which is only used in the service of covering up the fact that you dealing with two douchebags. It would be a different story if she didn't know he was engaged but she knew and went for it anyway. Be doesnt love her nor her him.

I hear you how ever it bothers me that everytime a spouse is unfaithful to the one that they chose to be "committed" to that it is always expected of the third party to be the one to walk away. Never faulting the who brought in the third person in the first place who should have never started the relationship. To my friends defense they were 7months in a relationship before she found out. And when she made the attempt to end it he didn't want to. So call them both what you may but its not her responsibility to have consideration for his fiancé feelings..... It my sound cold but all fair in love in war....

Bollocks all is fair in love and war. I found that out 7 months into a relationship. I'd have dumped his sorry ass there and then no matter how much I cared. He'll only do the same to her but then she sounds like a self-absorbed, heartless cow anyway.

I feel sorry for his wife she's the only one that deserves any form of sympathy and I hope karma comes around and gives them pair a smack in the face.

Ps. I'd put money on you being the "friend" you got very defensive in that last message.

——?? I didn't get defensive at all. You just lost that money cause I'm not the friend Is it was i would have said so you hold no power here your opinion matters to me NOT—— but I will say that you and all those who didn't answer my question instead got all in their feelings about what is been done I bet money that your either alone with noooooo one because someone cheated on you and left you for who ever or you wish..... Either way I could give 2 monkey phuck balls what you think....... Get out your feelings it was just a question that's what you do on forums.——— get out you feeling....You MAD?awww—?

As if you are going ti admit if it's you anyway!!

I know my opinion won't matter to you because you have come here looking for validation for your friends actions. However I'm still going to give it.

You've just lost your money. Just because I'm a decent person with morals and integrity and get on my high horse over something like this does not mean I've been at the receiving end of It. Which I can clarify I haven't. I'm not alone either I'm dating. I was married for a long time and before you jump the gun I left him and no it wasn't because he cheated. Infact it would have made my life a lot easier and I'd have left him immediately if he had because that's one thing I would never be able to come back from. I'm just an empathetic person and I know of people that have been cheated on (doesn't everyone,) and it's soul destroying to see what it does to someone but the extent of what her husband has done, still marrying after meeting your friend. He's a selfish men as is your friend. His wife deserves so much better.

—? again like it said if it was me I would admit it. BECAUSE DON'T CARE ABOUT WHAT OTHERS THINK!!!!! mash potato brains. I don't know how far you got in school but when the teacher ask a question after giving the situation or Scenario they just require an answer.... Not your judgment so again save that for church..... I asked a question not for validation because in my opinion people do what they want always have. What is right or wrong depends on who looking? But thats just me. So it clear that your to emotional to answer the simple question soooooo......be gone before someone drops a house on you..... Go find a forum where you can vent about how you husband/boyfriend like left you for the gym teacher or something. And yall can talk about how awful men are for cheating ?

I'm head of the finance department for a company so clearly I have shit for brains!!

I'm a very objective person. There's no question of who's right or wrong in this instance!

Be gone before someone drops a house on you ? what are you 12? ?

It's an open forum and I'm free to post what I like, when I like to whom I like.

Clearly literacy isn't one of your strongest points. If you read my post correctly you would have noticed that I left my husband and it wasn't because he cheated. This also has no relevance to the topic. I put responsibility for this at both the husband and your friends door. I never said all men cheat, for some reason because I don't agree with both of their actions you assume I'm a man hater?!

Yeah I read that collection of bovine feculence you spewed on the page. However when made the decision to place judgment...tha is only for the most high who you are not and once you made the decision to come for me at that point I could have cared less about your opinion because just like azz holes everybody has one. But clearly just how you got all defensive and all in your feelings no matter what you say it clearly displays otherwise. But again I don't care about that either.



Am I 12...?.Good one... Again coming for me..OK

Well mother Teresa hold on to your friars and veil.

I'm true to my sign im the queen of sarcasm and I love to dabble in the art. Patty-ism

So for shyts and giggles I like to get under people skin...like morphine that itich you just can't scratch..... anywho I have grown tired of this your your emotional display . Of disapproval for Mistresses no longer amuses me I must find something else to supply my laughter so let me Mortal Kombat this shyt and finish it.

I do find it funny when you call someone out or challenge their competency they must tell you their job position.... WTF.....WHO CARES! Oh wait you do....

I don't care about your job what you do for living your ex-husband that you so called left( I'm happy for him) and his mistress I don't care about your opinion all you had to do was answer the damn question if you didn't want to answer the question and you felt like this form was too personal for you you didn't have to answer s*** but you chose to so with that being said no one cares about how you feel and yes it is an open Forum but let's stick to the question next time save the personal stuff for your therapist that you so clearly need now good day to you sir or ma'am or whatever the hell you are I don't care about that either?(drop mic )Capricornruleforever

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Arguing with stupid people is like playing chess with a pigeon.

No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon will knock over over the pieces, shit on the the board and strut about like it won.

To the OP, I think the confusion starts in the way framed your question vs the timeline in your version of events. You ask "why would he get married and then have an affair" but it is clear that this affair was already taking place BEFORE he got married. Thus making the answer to your question painfully obvious.

The morality of those involved is a subjective to say the least-- each of us will see it the way we will.

With that said, what is it you are actually trying to figure out?

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To the OP, I think the confusion starts in the way framed your question vs the timeline in your version of events. You ask "why would he get married and then have an affair" but it is clear that this affair was already taking place BEFORE he got married. Thus making the answer to your question painfully obvious.

The morality of those involved is a subjective to say the least-- each of us will see it the way we will.

With that said, what is it you are actually trying to figure out?

I don't think there's anything left to figure out...

Basically, he couldn't find exactly what he wanted in just one women. Hence, why he has two. One to play house with and one to freak.

They're basically sister wives, one involuntarily and the other voluntary.

To answer the question as to why he would: it's because he can. And he can, because it's being allowed.

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Oh, I agree with you completely. I'm just curious as to her confusion because, 6+ pages later- and plenty of clear rational answers, she still seems confused. And lord knows I'm a sucker for a good riddle.

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Cap guy friend cheated with Libra friend while his wife was going through breast cancer. Wife passed away, about 5 years later the Libra was diagnosed with breast cancer... For those of you that don't believe in karma, read this again.

For me you can put any sign into this equation.

plus: it is not karma. it is the increasing probabilty of dying from cancer.



and that women better go yearly to doc than trying to please men. but maybe one year of getting laid tastes good enough and can replace all the years they lose.

I agree, it has nothing to do with astrology and everything to do with human nature.

Reading this reminded me of this situation...And the Libra used to harrass me often for smoking, but she got cancer.

PSA of the day: Ladies get your mammograms!

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yep, co-signed.

First off I was never confused about anything. There was and will never be a sound answer to the questions. Because no can really know why what he is/ was doing this but him. However I saw several post ago that the was answered with several different perspectives. Some gave simple answers based off of their emotions and some were answered based from on an Analysis of the information that was given.

I only asked the question once. I was never confused about anything.

But since your the one who were clearly confused about my question I will word it better.

Q1.Why would a man get engaged be engaged for some time seek,find and start a whole new relationship while still in one the get married to one and still continue the second one?

Q2.Why not end the second one its only a fling right?

Q3. Why not go into the marriage clean?

Q4. Why not stay single?

Q5. Why invest time and energy in to a whole other relationship?

Are those clear enough for you?



Most people are in marital bliss after they get married instead a week after he was married he flew his mistress to Egypt for two weeks...... Now throwing the zodiac in it. I have read that Capricorns are loyal and being unfaithful is not something one would have to worry about.

Now let me give you a little Insight This is a 20 year old situation. I posted to prove a point To my man That no matter what information you give in this type of Scenario people are going to judge. And they are quick to pick the worst of outcomes using GOD or karma for the reason of the bad outcome but never talking about or Acknowledging any of the situations that had a good outcome with the same scenario. Many will never really anawer the question they will find someway to make it about them.Why? For shyts and giggels .... Becaues they will only see unjust deep down making it personal... we threw the zodiac thing in because that what this forum topics are based on. So for all of you He-Man Woman Haters and she woman man haters as for this situation as much as you would like to believe that she got her just deserve my friend of course that man intern divorced his wife after only being married for six months The Intern he married my. My friend to home he has been married to for now over 20 years whom he has never cheated on ever and has been a wonderful husbands and still takes care of to this day they have four beautiful children you ask them or him does he regret the decision that he made with the last wife he will still tell you to this day it was the best decision he ever made.

Now I will answer my own question.... he did it because he married the first women out of convenience he felt that he was getting old and she was there and they had been together for a while so why not. He never felt complete and something was always missing.Then he met my friend and he fell inlove and she was everything that he needed.

And since you like a good riddle

a man is cheating on another mans wife. the husband comes home to find the man he thinks is the cheater. so he knocks him unconsious and tosses him out the window. but because hes really angry he tosses the fridge on him as well. in heaven two men come up to god because they died. one is the man who was thrown out the window who is the second man and how did he die?

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

So what happens when your missing one of those elements and tthe person you've chosen can not provide all.Do you find it somewhere else or settle?

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Good question.! Let me put it in a different way if she not a sack of bricks in bed, if she can hold a conversation and stimulate my mentally, and is not too clingy. Then I will never cheat. It takes time to build, patience is a good quality of mines.

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

I'm the same way.

It's funny, if you were a Cancer Ascendant, we would have the exact same placements.

Your wife is a Gemini, correct?

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Yes she is and how you know ?? Exact same except for ascendant tell me more about yourself

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

I'm the same way.

It's funny, if you were a Cancer Ascendant, we would have the exact same placements.

Your wife is a Gemini, correct?

Yes she is and how you know ?? Exact same except for ascendant tell me more about yourself

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I saw it on another post the other day.

Well, I'm shy and I can't stand being the center of attention, despite what people usually say about our Moon. I'm Very hard working and always put work before play. I'm a homebody who by choice doesn't have much of a social life. My Capricorn being in Mercury, makes me very quiet and I will usually only talk when there's a purpose behind what I'm saying, and I overthink everything.

Hmm, what else.. I don't know, what would you like to know? Do you feel that you relate to anything I wrote?

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Sounds like the typical Cap male.

Imo, it's like marriage for them is a weapon to attract even more women, and they know it. Women LOVE married Cap men, and Cap men LOVE a good mistress.

I've seen it happen more than I can count. This is honestly typical behavior. Post about a Cap man that doesn't cheat on his wife and I'll be shocked.



This is why I think I want a guy that has a lot of hobbies and activities to keep him busy. Imo, if a Cap male isn't working, his hobby will most likely be entertaining another woman.

Cap 'men' or your dad who you despise?

You're always saying stuff like this. I don't know a single cap man that cheats..most are fairly principled. I think it's the least likely sign to cheat as most look for real relationships. Are Cap women like this too or just the men?

I don't despise my dad you duck, and I said Cap MEN and meant it. Yes, Cap MEN. More than one. More than two or three that I've known to have mistresses. How about 4-5 married with a mistress on the side and more than half of the unmarried Caps I know that have cheated on their girlfriends.

By the way, my Dad has never been married so my post wouldn't apply to him even if I did despise him. She asked about a married Cap male.

Well that settles it then lol. I almost always disagree with your cap depictions since they seem to be inconsistent with what virtually every cap here says..so just wondering what accounts for that perspective given that you are one..perhaps the environment you're in? As an aside and possibly not related, I read an article on how monied, successful black men are rampant cheaters. The conclusion drawn by the article was that black women prefer to date black men in their socio-economic range. The problem is that black women hold 80% of the degrees, so supply and demand creates cheaters because of the over demand for successful black males.

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You are absolutely correct.

None of this is related to anything I've posted about Caps and their mistresses. Assumptions, generalizations, and true ignorance. I just cannot deal.

Thank goodness there are mutiple women on here posting stories of Cap cheaters. I mean maybe you can come up with more assumptions to make, idk, but I can't entertain you anymore.

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

I'm the same way.

It's funny, if you were a Cancer Ascendant, we would have the exact same placements.

Your wife is a Gemini, correct?

Yes she is and how you know ?? Exact same except for ascendant tell me more about yourself

I saw it on another post the other day.

Well, I'm shy and I can't stand being the center of attention, despite what people usually say about our Moon. I'm Very hard working and always put work before play. I'm a homebody who by choice doesn't have much of a social life. My Capricorn being in Mercury, makes me very quiet and I will usually only talk when there's a purpose behind what I'm saying, and I overthink everything.

Hmm, what else.. I don't know, what would you like to know? Do you feel that you relate to anything I wrote?

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Wow yeah pretty much that is me. My moon makes me lively but I definitely don't like being the center of attention. I read that Leo moons put their partners on a pedestal which holds true for me. My Cap Mercury makes me the same way other wise I probably wouldn't say much. My ascendant makes people either like me or don't which confuses me sometimes because I don't know what I did wrong. I'm laid back and chill on top of that very respectful. I think because of my Venus sign I am picky on mates. Also my Virgo in Mars makes me asexual at times(I read that somewhere) but I like sex a lot but not very verbal and action oriented behind. I do move slowly. Does your ascendant make you a homebody? How you go about your relationships?

Earth sign holds to practical solution.

Earth sign holds to conservative solution.

Maintaining a side chic while being in marriage has been a practical and conservative solution for all the centuries we could write down those stories. Well, from a certain level of income.

For me (my mistake) prostitute=side-chic=2ndWife=FWB=ONS, in cases there is a wife.

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Earth sign holds to practical solution.

Earth sign holds to conservative solution.

Maintaining a side chic while being in marriage has been a practical and conservative solution ... ...

catalyzing parameters:

- how it's done in the whole family? did the uncle and grandpa maintain a 2nd wife too?

- how was the father/mother?

did the father totally damage the family by his cheating? high chances that the sensitive sons would not want to the same.

did the father cheated and the family worked somewhat? at least one son would copy his behavior.

- plus other zodiac signs in the chart which need excitement||drama and have been neglected (or never stopped triggering).

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Sounds like the typical Cap male.

Imo, it's like marriage for them is a weapon to attract even more women, and they know it. Women LOVE married Cap men, and Cap men LOVE a good mistress.

I've seen it happen more than I can count. This is honestly typical behavior. Post about a Cap man that doesn't cheat on his wife and I'll be shocked.



This is why I think I want a guy that has a lot of hobbies and activities to keep him busy. Imo, if a Cap male isn't working, his hobby will most likely be entertaining another woman.

Cap 'men' or your dad who you despise?

You're always saying stuff like this. I don't know a single cap man that cheats..most are fairly principled. I think it's the least likely sign to cheat as most look for real relationships. Are Cap women like this too or just the men?

I don't despise my dad you duck, and I said Cap MEN and meant it. Yes, Cap MEN. More than one. More than two or three that I've known to have mistresses. How about 4-5 married with a mistress on the side and more than half of the unmarried Caps I know that have cheated on their girlfriends.

By the way, my Dad has never been married so my post wouldn't apply to him even if I did despise him. She asked about a married Cap male.

Well that settles it then lol. I almost always disagree with your cap depictions since they seem to be inconsistent with what virtually every cap here says..so just wondering what accounts for that perspective given that you are one..perhaps the environment you're in? As an aside and possibly not related, I read an article on how monied, successful black men are rampant cheaters. The conclusion drawn by the article was that black women prefer to date black men in their socio-economic range. The problem is that black women hold 80% of the degrees, so supply and demand creates cheaters because of the over demand for successful black males.

You are absolutely correct.

None of this is related to anything I've posted about Caps and their mistresses. Assumptions, generalizations, and true ignorance. I just cannot deal.

Thank goodness there are mutiple women on here posting stories of Cap cheaters. I mean maybe you can come up with more assumptions to make, idk, but I can't entertain you anymore.

No, you just forget what you've posted that's revealed your bias. I just pointed it out. No problem with people posting their specific experiences..but 'all cap men are cheaters' is just dumb.

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Point me to where I said that all Cap men are cheaters?

Yes, its typical Cap male behavior, especially in my experience, but I don't recall saying all. Heck, I probably have, but I don't remember saying all.

Either way, if you are a Cap male that hasn't cheated then continue on. Dont get so offended by what I post.

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... more access due to an enormous disparity. ...

"The United States Census Bureau estimated that 18,423,000 males over the age of 18 held a bachelor's degree, while 20,501,000 females over the age 18 held one. In addition, fewer males held master's degrees: 6,472,000 males compared to 7,283,000 females. However, more men held professional and doctoral degrees than women. 2,033,000 males held professional degrees compared to 1,079,000, and 1,678,000 males had received a doctoral degree compared to 817,000 females."

I don't know what the others think but I feel very thankful for your effort and sharing this info.

back to discussion:

maybe you both are right. We all have no doubt that Cap has high ambitions and also high chance of success. on the long run. So as a successful man he'll offer the access. alternative wording: he is exposed to the chasing women.

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Sounds like the typical Cap male.

Imo, it's like marriage for them is a weapon to attract even more women, and they know it. Women LOVE married Cap men, and Cap men LOVE a good mistress.

I've seen it happen more than I can count. This is honestly typical behavior. Post about a Cap man that doesn't cheat on his wife and I'll be shocked.



This is why I think I want a guy that has a lot of hobbies and activities to keep him busy. Imo, if a Cap male isn't working, his hobby will most likely be entertaining another woman.

Cap 'men' or your dad who you despise?

You're always saying stuff like this. I don't know a single cap man that cheats..most are fairly principled. I think it's the least likely sign to cheat as most look for real relationships. Are Cap women like this too or just the men?

I don't despise my dad you duck, and I said Cap MEN and meant it. Yes, Cap MEN. More than one. More than two or three that I've known to have mistresses. How about 4-5 married with a mistress on the side and more than half of the unmarried Caps I know that have cheated on their girlfriends.

By the way, my Dad has never been married so my post wouldn't apply to him even if I did despise him. She asked about a married Cap male.

Well that settles it then lol. I almost always disagree with your cap depictions since they seem to be inconsistent with what virtually every cap here says..so just wondering what accounts for that perspective given that you are one..perhaps the environment you're in? As an aside and possibly not related, I read an article on how monied, successful black men are rampant cheaters. The conclusion drawn by the article was that black women prefer to date black men in their socio-economic range. The problem is that black women hold 80% of the degrees, so supply and demand creates cheaters because of the over demand for successful black males.

Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat. They get maried because "it's the right thing to do". And settle for women who will make good wives/mothers, but whom they may feel little passion for. It's a whore/Madonna complex. The mistress satisfies their romantic needs, but the wife satisfies their security needs.

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Did you actually read what I wrote? wtf lol "Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat." There's a revelation. Where did anyone dispute that? Cheating isn't a sign thing. That's just ignorant. It's a character issue with possible judgment and upbringing undertones.

What group in the U.S. is most likely to come from fatherless homes (i.e. lacking positive adult influence)? Here's your answer: 57.6% of black children, 31.2% of Hispanic children, and 20.7% of white children are living absent their biological fathers..probably fairly prevalent in the areas where the 2 black chics that are like 'Omg, all Cap men are cheaters' live. No need to extrapolate that into anything other than it's probably a contributing factor, don't you think?

But that wasn't my original point..

To reiterate, black women prefer to date black men. It's their overwhelming #1 choice. The issue is that (according to the numbers I saw) 80% of the degrees are held by black women..so black men that are educated and somewhat successful are in high demand due to those numbers..and the fact that the women highly prefer to date people in their socio-economic range. It's not a race issue, it's an ACCESS issue.

It's the same reason celebrities cheat as well. Take Tiger Woods (not using him because he's black btw). Everywhere he goes, he has 50 girls on the last tee and in hotel lobbies trying to fuck him. Draw what conclusions you will about his character, but most people don't have that kind of access staring them in the face. It's a study in what people would do if they had access and they feel they could get away with it.

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Too bad cc isn't around to read this.

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Posted by lnana04
Sounds like the typical Cap male.

Imo, it's like marriage for them is a weapon to attract even more women, and they know it. Women LOVE married Cap men, and Cap men LOVE a good mistress.

I've seen it happen more than I can count. This is honestly typical behavior. Post about a Cap man that doesn't cheat on his wife and I'll be shocked.



This is why I think I want a guy that has a lot of hobbies and activities to keep him busy. Imo, if a Cap male isn't working, his hobby will most likely be entertaining another woman.

Cap 'men' or your dad who you despise?

You're always saying stuff like this. I don't know a single cap man that cheats..most are fairly principled. I think it's the least likely sign to cheat as most look for real relationships. Are Cap women like this too or just the men?

I don't despise my dad you duck, and I said Cap MEN and meant it. Yes, Cap MEN. More than one. More than two or three that I've known to have mistresses. How about 4-5 married with a mistress on the side and more than half of the unmarried Caps I know that have cheated on their girlfriends.

By the way, my Dad has never been married so my post wouldn't apply to him even if I did despise him. She asked about a married Cap male.

Well that settles it then lol. I almost always disagree with your cap depictions since they seem to be inconsistent with what virtually every cap here says..so just wondering what accounts for that perspective given that you are one..perhaps the environment you're in? As an aside and possibly not related, I read an article on how monied, successful black men are rampant cheaters. The conclusion drawn by the article was that black women prefer to date black men in their socio-economic range. The problem is that black women hold 80% of the degrees, so supply and demand creates cheaters because of the over demand for successful black males.

Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat. They get maried because "it's the right thing to do". And settle for women who will make good wives/mothers, but whom they may feel little passion for. It's a whore/Madonna complex. The mistress satisfies their romantic needs, but the wife satisfies their security needs.

*facepalm*

Did you actually read what I wrote? wtf lol "Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat." There's a revelation. Where did anyone dispute that? Cheating isn't a sign thing. That's just ignorant. It's a character issue with possible judgment and upbringing undertones.

What group in the U.S. is most likely to come from fatherless homes (i.e. lacking positive adult influence)? Here's your answer: 57.6% of black children, 31.2% of Hispanic children, and 20.7% of white children are living absent their biological fathers..probably fairly prevalent in the areas where the 2 black chics that are like 'Omg, all Cap men are cheaters' live. No need to extrapolate that into anything other than it's probably a contributing factor, don't you think?

But that wasn't my original point..

To reiterate, black women prefer to date black men. It's their overwhelming #1 choice. The issue is that (according to the numbers I saw) 80% of the degrees are held by black women..so black men that are educated and somewhat successful are in high demand due to those numbers..and the fact that the women highly prefer to date people in their socio-economic range. It's not a race issue, it's an ACCESS issue.

It's the same reason celebrities cheat as well. Take Tiger Woods (not using him because he's black btw). Everywhere he goes, he has 50 girls on the last tee and in hotel lobbies trying to fuck him. Draw what conclusions you will about his character, but most people don't have that kind of access staring them in the face. It's a study in what people would do if they had access and they feel they could get away with it.

This is kind of a passive aggressive swipe at her post. Basically you saying she mostly see caps as cheaters because she is a black woman and most black men worthy of dating have so many options they struggle to keep their dick in their pants. Women are the most educated in the country period. And women tend to out number men in most major cities.That means non-black women have to suffer with dating men who are probably educationally inferior, and thus have to struggle with said educated men having pussy thrown at them all the time. So maybe women should just start dating other women, since the men here can't keep up.

I said they had more access due to an enormous disparity.

There's nothing passive about it. I like Inana but what she said was ignorant and she's said it multiple times before. It may be 'her experience' but what accounts for that?

Does this look like 80/20 to you?

"The United States Census Bureau estimated that 18,423,000 males over the age of 18 held a bachelor's degree, while 20,501,000 females over the age 18 held one. In addition, fewer males held master's degrees: 6,472,000 males compared to 7,283,000 females. However, more men held professional and doctoral degrees than women. 2,033,000 males held professional degrees compared to 1,079,000, and 1,678,000 males had received a doctoral degree compared to 817,000 females."

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Consider that having a degree does not guarantee high earning potential or success. In fact going to trade school tends to be a much more lucrative route.

This is coming from someone who has degrees (me) who is with a man who doesn't.

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The wife isn't giving head

or the wife is a diva and the side chic is needy.

the two must be different in one or the other way.

e.g. educated/business/suphisticated/dominant/plotting vs. uneducated/poor/emotional/daydreamer/naive/needy.

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Sounds like the typical Cap male.

Imo, it's like marriage for them is a weapon to attract even more women, and they know it. Women LOVE married Cap men, and Cap men LOVE a good mistress.

I've seen it happen more than I can count. This is honestly typical behavior. Post about a Cap man that doesn't cheat on his wife and I'll be shocked.



This is why I think I want a guy that has a lot of hobbies and activities to keep him busy. Imo, if a Cap male isn't working, his hobby will most likely be entertaining another woman.

Cap 'men' or your dad who you despise?

You're always saying stuff like this. I don't know a single cap man that cheats..most are fairly principled. I think it's the least likely sign to cheat as most look for real relationships. Are Cap women like this too or just the men?

I don't despise my dad you duck, and I said Cap MEN and meant it. Yes, Cap MEN. More than one. More than two or three that I've known to have mistresses. How about 4-5 married with a mistress on the side and more than half of the unmarried Caps I know that have cheated on their girlfriends.

By the way, my Dad has never been married so my post wouldn't apply to him even if I did despise him. She asked about a married Cap male.

Well that settles it then lol. I almost always disagree with your cap depictions since they seem to be inconsistent with what virtually every cap here says..so just wondering what accounts for that perspective given that you are one..perhaps the environment you're in? As an aside and possibly not related, I read an article on how monied, successful black men are rampant cheaters. The conclusion drawn by the article was that black women prefer to date black men in their socio-economic range. The problem is that black women hold 80% of the degrees, so supply and demand creates cheaters because of the over demand for successful black males.

Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat. They get maried because "it's the right thing to do". And settle for women who will make good wives/mothers, but whom they may feel little passion for. It's a whore/Madonna complex. The mistress satisfies their romantic needs, but the wife satisfies their security needs.

*facepalm*

Did you actually read what I wrote? wtf lol "Bull. There are cap men of all races who cheat." There's a revelation. Where did anyone dispute that? Cheating isn't a sign thing. That's just ignorant. It's a character issue with possible judgment and upbringing undertones.

What group in the U.S. is most likely to come from fatherless homes (i.e. lacking positive adult influence)? Here's your answer: 57.6% of black children, 31.2% of Hispanic children, and 20.7% of white children are living absent their biological fathers..probably fairly prevalent in the areas where the 2 black chics that are like 'Omg, all Cap men are cheaters' live. No need to extrapolate that into anything other than it's probably a contributing factor, don't you think?

But that wasn't my original point..

To reiterate, black women prefer to date black men. It's their overwhelming #1 choice. The issue is that (according to the numbers I saw) 80% of the degrees are held by black women..so black men that are educated and somewhat successful are in high demand due to those numbers..and the fact that the women highly prefer to date people in their socio-economic range. It's not a race issue, it's an ACCESS issue.

It's the same reason celebrities cheat as well. Take Tiger Woods (not using him because he's black btw). Everywhere he goes, he has 50 girls on the last tee and in hotel lobbies trying to fuck him. Draw what conclusions you will about his character, but most people don't have that kind of access staring them in the face. It's a study in what people would do if they had access and they feel they could get away with it.

This is kind of a passive aggressive swipe at her post. Basically you saying she mostly see caps as cheaters because she is a black woman and most black men worthy of dating have so many options they struggle to keep their dick in their pants. Women are the most educated in the country period. And women tend to out number men in most major cities.That means non-black women have to suffer with dating men who are probably educationally inferior, and thus have to struggle with said educated men having pussy thrown at them all the time. So maybe women should just start dating other women, since the men here can't keep up.

I said they had more access due to an enormous disparity.

There's nothing passive about it. I like Inana but what she said was ignorant and she's said it multiple times before. It may be 'her experience' but what accounts for that?

Does this look like 80/20 to you?

"The United States Census Bureau estimated that 18,423,000 males over the age of 18 held a bachelor's degree, while 20,501,000 females over the age 18 held one. In addition, fewer males held master's degrees: 6,472,000 males compared to 7,283,000 females. However, more men held professional and doctoral degrees than women. 2,033,000 males held professional degrees compared to 1,079,000, and 1,678,000 males had received a doctoral degree compared to 817,000 females."

Consider that having a degree does not guarantee high earning potential or success. In fact going to trade school tends to be a much more lucrative route.

This is coming from someone who has degrees (me) who is with a man who doesn't.

True. Of course there are no guarantees given outliers and exceptions, but it is an indicator of earning potential overall. I'm sure you've seen the graphs comparing education/skill level and economic success versus those without them. It was more of a singular example.

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I feel you.

I've learned not to put much stock into degrees/yearly earnings. Success and money can be fleeting. But finding someone with ambition and drive and same page status is worth more than all that.

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

I'm the same way.

It's funny, if you were a Cancer Ascendant, we would have the exact same placements.

Your wife is a Gemini, correct?

Yes she is and how you know ?? Exact same except for ascendant tell me more about yourself

I saw it on another post the other day.

Well, I'm shy and I can't stand being the center of attention, despite what people usually say about our Moon. I'm Very hard working and always put work before play. I'm a homebody who by choice doesn't have much of a social life. My Capricorn being in Mercury, makes me very quiet and I will usually only talk when there's a purpose behind what I'm saying, and I overthink everything.

Hmm, what else.. I don't know, what would you like to know? Do you feel that you relate to anything I wrote?

Wow yeah pretty much that is me. My moon makes me lively but I definitely don't like being the center of attention. I read that Leo moons put their partners on a pedestal which holds true for me. My Cap Mercury makes me the same way other wise I probably wouldn't say much. My ascendant makes people either like me or don't which confuses me sometimes because I don't know what I did wrong. I'm laid back and chill on top of that very respectful. I think because of my Venus sign I am picky on mates. Also my Virgo in Mars makes me asexual at times(I read that somewhere) but I like sex a lot but not very verbal and action oriented behind. I do move slowly. Does your ascendant make you a homebody? How you go about your relationships?

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I figured you would be able to identify with me.

Yes, I can definitely agree with you about putting my partners on a pedestal. In my relationships I devote myself to the person unconditionally, and I won't walk away unless they mess it up somehow. I'm patient and I like to get to know the person and build a foundation, but at the same time I also need there to be a commitment to each other through the process, at the very least consistency and reciprocation. If I'm talking to someone and they are inconsistent or give me too much space, I will question their interest and start doubting my own. If that continues, I will emotionally and mentally detach completely. I only play for the long haul, so once I decide I want to be with someone, it's after a long time of being by myself and they have somehow shown me that they are worth giving up some of my freedom, space, and accepting the responsibility of being in a relationship. I'm also very picky such as yourself. But, that's just because I won't waste my time. I don't date or anything like that usually, although I did recently give it a chance with someone and after 2 short coffee meetings and one time spending a couple of hours alone talking, I realized quickly why I don't do the dating thing.. Geez, I sound like a handful.

I'm also very laid back and easy going for the most part, as well as very respectful. I do believe though, that respect is earned.

About your Ascendant, to be honest it's kind of like that for me too. But, I think that with my Leo Moon when I meet people (because they have approached me), I'm warm and very positive so I do tend to make friends pretty easily. But, I do know that there are some that don't like me and I feel it right away. I have the feeling that the people that like you, outweigh the ones that don't?

My Ascendant might be the reason I'm a homebody, I'm not too sure. But, I was the total opposite when I was growing up. I'm also an INFJ, and I think that also contributes to it too.

With your Cap Mercury, did you ever find it difficult in your relationships?

I always find it intriguing when I meet someone who has the same placements as me.

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Smh.

OP, I know you care for you friend but in truth she's just as selfish as the guy is...if not more. She found out he was engaged FOUR MONTHS before he got married which is plenty of time to break it off...but she refused to see past what she wanted and she got it. She's not a victim a d yes he's equally responsible.

What raises my ire is that no one ever thinks about the spouse in these situations. He/she is the one who is getting it the worst. It always involves some bull crap flight of fancy exaggerated love story which is only used in the service of covering up the fact that you dealing with two douchebags. It would be a different story if she didn't know he was engaged but she knew and went for it anyway. Be doesnt love her nor her him.

I hear you how ever it bothers me that everytime a spouse is unfaithful to the one that they chose to be "committed" to that it is always expected of the third party to be the one to walk away. Never faulting the who brought in the third person in the first place who should have never started the relationship. To my friends defense they were 7months in a relationship before she found out. And when she made the attempt to end it he didn't want to. So call them both what you may but its not her responsibility to have consideration for his fiancé feelings..... It my sound cold but all fair in love in war....

In regards to something being said to the person who "initiated the affair" I agree...but my premise is they're both equally responsible at this point. Whether it's three weeks or seven months, the fact still remains that she found out about it and could've ended it. I'm sorry but for me personally, this not one of those situations where we "get to blame the man." Just my opinion 🙂

What's ironic, is by saying your friend isn't responsible for his fiancé's feelings is exactly what allows cheating and affairs to take place. It gives them permission to do it because of lack of consideration. She's not responsible for the now wife's feelings, but she is responsible for helping this man violate the integrity of his marriage in which the wife's feelings are tied to through trust. It's called being an accessory after the fact. It's no different than a friend taking a friend to a bank and that friend they're giving a ride to robs it and they drive them away and split the money. The original friend may not have even been aware that the robbery was going to take place, but once they consciously take part in the spoils, they're equally held responsible as if they planned it from the beginning. That's what realistically takes place. Good luck

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Why is the woman responsible for men's gf feelings if man doesn't give a damn?

Before he is married - he is available.

Things can change in a second and he is marrying someone else!

Never heard of it?

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I totally agree. I think most people's definition of 'success' is skewed and warped by societal expectations. The purpose of life is to live it..not to slave away in an office or repetitive job for 30 years so you can retire at 60..and then what? My uncle noticed a disturbing trend at his IBM job. People would have no life working themselves to the bone so they could retire early. Within a couple years time after retiring, many would pass away..so what was it all for?! At the end of their lives, people don't say they wish they would have made a few more thousand, they wish they had taken that trip to Spain, asked that girl out, or went on that adventure. Life is short. Me, I could pull 150 working myself year round. Instead, I take 3 months off a year..and trying to find a way to push it to 4.

That's admirable. It never made sense to me how so many slave away their whole lives and once they do retire they are too frail and old to enjoy life. Or, worse yet, by being married to their job they drove away their family/spouse/friends and are alone.

I'm a workaholic right now but I'm building something so that eventually I can have those I trust to run the business. Work smarter not harder. Luckily my SO is also focused on his career so we are on the same page with priorities.

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First off I was never confused about anything. There was and will never be a sound answer to the questions. Because no can really know why what he is/ was doing this but him. However I saw several post ago that the was answered with several different perspectives. Some gave simple answers based off of their emotions and some were answered based from on an Analysis of the information that was given.

I only asked the question once. I was never confused about anything.

But since your the one who were clearly confused about my question I will word it better.

Q1.Why would a man get engaged be engaged for some time seek,find and start a whole new relationship while still in one the get married to one and still continue the second one?

Q2.Why not end the second one its only a fling right?

Q3. Why not go into the marriage clean?

Q4. Why not stay single?

Q5. Why invest time and energy in to a whole other relationship?

Are those clear enough for you?



Most people are in marital bliss after they get married instead a week after he was married he flew his mistress to Egypt for two weeks...... Now throwing the zodiac in it. I have read that Capricorns are loyal and being unfaithful is not something one would have to worry about.

Now let me give you a little Insight This is a 20 year old situation. I posted to prove a point To my man That no matter what information you give in this type of Scenario people are going to judge. And they are quick to pick the worst of outcomes using GOD or karma for the reason of the bad outcome but never talking about or Acknowledging any of the situations that had a good outcome with the same scenario. Many will never really anawer the question they will find someway to make it about them.Why? For shyts and giggels .... Becaues they will only see unjust deep down making it personal... we threw the zodiac thing in because that what this forum topics are based on. So for all of you He-Man Woman Haters and she woman man haters as for this situation as much as you would like to believe that she got her just deserve my friend of course that man intern divorced his wife after only being married for six months The Intern he married my. My friend to home he has been married to for now over 20 years whom he has never cheated on ever and has been a wonderful husbands and still takes care of to this day they have four beautiful children you ask them or him does he regret the decision that he made with the last wife he will still tell you to this day it was the best decision he ever made.

Now I will answer my own question.... he did it because he married the first women out of convenience he felt that he was getting old and she was there and they had been together for a while so why not. He never felt complete and something was always missing.Then he met my friend and he fell inlove and she was everything that he needed.

And since you like a good riddle

a man is cheating on another mans wife. the husband comes home to find the man he thinks is the cheater. so he knocks him unconsious and tosses him out the window. but because hes really angry he tosses the fridge on him as well. in heaven two men come up to god because they died. one is the man who was thrown out the window who is the second man and how did he die?

Only addressing the bold part. Some people view loyal & faithful as the same word & meaning since they are synonyms. For the sake of this post, I'll go against the grain and view them as individual words so please bare with me.

In this example the cap man IS loyal. Here's why...

he's loyal to both the wife and friend in the aspect of the wife has a place to come home to everyday, the bills are paid, the kids are picked up from school, there's food on the table, etc. As you mentioned the friend was well taken cared of, etc.

That is the loyal used when describing caps. Provide, sense of duty, if you need something he will be there - that type of loyalty. Dependable, reliable, etc.

Now he allowed both women to enter his inner circle so he felt a sense of duty to both hence the overlap in relationships.

Now faithful on the other hand, he was not, to either woman.

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Gotta play the devils advocate on this one...Well when it comes to the other woman I suppose you could argue that he WAS faithful to her. As she entered the relationship knowing that he had a finance and still stayed with him, ergo she accepted the way things were. For all we know he had an arrangement with the wife where it was a marriage of convenience or an open marriage. Definition of faithful can be fluid.

I agree with caprisun. The man was loyal to both women until he divorced the wife.

I don't agree with lady neptune. He was not faithful to the second wife, cause he did not beg for her permission when he married the first wife.

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I am always straight forward and expect the same in return. Im a builder so would be more than happy with one woman. If she can keep my attention, give me my space, and be a freak in the sheets then I will never cheat.

I'm the same way.

It's funny, if you were a Cancer Ascendant, we would have the exact same placements.

Your wife is a Gemini, correct?

Yes she is and how you know ?? Exact same except for ascendant tell me more about yourself

I saw it on another post the other day.

Well, I'm shy and I can't stand being the center of attention, despite what people usually say about our Moon. I'm Very hard working and always put work before play. I'm a homebody who by choice doesn't have much of a social life. My Capricorn being in Mercury, makes me very quiet and I will usually only talk when there's a purpose behind what I'm saying, and I overthink everything.

Hmm, what else.. I don't know, what would you like to know? Do you feel that you relate to anything I wrote?

Wow yeah pretty much that is me. My moon makes me lively but I definitely don't like being the center of attention. I read that Leo moons put their partners on a pedestal which holds true for me. My Cap Mercury makes me the same way other wise I probably wouldn't say much. My ascendant makes people either like me or don't which confuses me sometimes because I don't know what I did wrong. I'm laid back and chill on top of that very respectful. I think because of my Venus sign I am picky on mates. Also my Virgo in Mars makes me asexual at times(I read that somewhere) but I like sex a lot but not very verbal and action oriented behind. I do move slowly. Does your ascendant make you a homebody? How you go about your relationships?

I figured you would be able to identify with me.

Yes, I can definitely agree with you about putting my partners on a pedestal. In my relationships I devote myself to the person unconditionally, and I won't walk away unless they mess it up somehow. I'm patient and I like to get to know the person and build a foundation, but at the same time I also need there to be a commitment to each other through the process, at the very least consistency and reciprocation. If I'm talking to someone and they are inconsistent or give me too much space, I will question their interest and start doubting my own. If that continues, I will emotionally and mentally detach completely. I only play for the long haul, so once I decide I want to be with someone, it's after a long time of being by myself and they have somehow shown me that they are worth giving up some of my freedom, space, and accepting the responsibility of being in a relationship. I'm also very picky such as yourself. But, that's just because I won't waste my time. I don't date or anything like that usually, although I did recently give it a chance with someone and after 2 short coffee meetings and one time spending a couple of hours alone talking, I realized quickly why I don't do the dating thing.. Geez, I sound like a handful.

I'm also very laid back and easy going for the most part, as well as very respectful. I do believe though, that respect is earned.

About your Ascendant, to be honest it's kind of like that for me too. But, I think that with my Leo Moon when I meet people (because they have approached me), I'm warm and very positive so I do tend to make friends pretty easily. But, I do know that there are some that don't like me and I feel it right away. I have the feeling that the people that like you, outweigh the ones that don't?

My Ascendant might be the reason I'm a homebody, I'm not too sure. But, I was the total opposite when I was growing up. I'm also an INFJ, and I think that also contributes to it too.

With your Cap Mercury, did you ever find it difficult in your relationships?

I always find it intriguing when I meet someone who has the same placements as me.

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Wow that's me pretty much. I can meet and befriend anyone. Consistenty is very important because reciprocate what I get. Friendship first then go from there. I'm a ten toes down type of person meaning I ride and die to the end. Yes my Cap Mercury makes me too straightforward sometimes about things close to the heart. It is no grey area for me and don't like to guess unless it is something casual. Don't like mind games either because I think it is a waste of time. Yes they love me because I'm honest with and don't change up on people. Scorpio rising makes me magnetic or mysterious either way it draws too much unwanted attention ??