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Posted by hydorah
it's pretty cool, it's even better that it triggers the OP and sultrykitty

But seiously it's cool

I'm not triggered, I'm enjoying reading. But Obama was a huge failure and an empty suit.

Why?


Why was he a failure? Because he brought America out of the brink of devestation or cause he's black

Because neither. Economic stats (real ones) say it all. I'm all about results and couldn't care less about what a president thinks about social issues. Let society hash it out. Obama wasn't any different than Bush, tbh.

Exactly. It’s all business.


If people expect one man to fix all of this messed up societies problems, they are in for a lifetime of disappointment

Same could be said about one man fixing the economy.

The economy is much less complex

A $ 20 billion dollar wall surely won't be what fixes the economy.

Are you certain?


Gotta spend money to make money

I know that the large majority of our agri industry is dependent upon illegal workers. They go.. and it all falls apart. It's already been proven in Alabama.


So yeah.. in this case, we'd be spending money to lose money.


The wall is not an economic benefit. It's a social benefit.

Then agri needs to work with the Feds to come up with a legal way to be able to hire migrant workers at lower than minimum wage if they need them so badly.


As far as that goes, the number of agri workers sure doesn't amount to the number of illegals coming across, and more and more farms in the US are using automation for picking and processing.

Ask Alabama how it worked out for them.

They didn't negotiate to pay what the migrants would accept? I mean, farmers have used migrants for years, the difference is that now they don't move on when the season ends. There's no reason that the migrants have to be illegal unless the farmer is paying too much under the table to avoid payroll taxes and insurance.

1. That's exactly what farmers do. Farmers can't afford the payroll taxes by employing legal workers.


2. There was no negotiation. The Governor basically said that we will find you and deport you. And farmers than are employing them will be held accountable and jailed.


What happened? Illegal workers packed up their families and moved.


The result?


An Alabama agri industry took a huge hit from not being able to harvest and ship. Lost crops. Lost money.


Also.. the Alabama economy took a huge hit because the illegal population was so large, that when they left.. that was money NOT being spent on goods and services.


Folks like to complain that illegal workers take American jobs and don't pay taxes. But the fact is that they take the jobs no American is willing to work, and spend all their hard earned money in the cities that would struggle without them there.


Fun fact: When I was working in the ER collecting money from patients, you know who the least likely to pay copays were? White men and women on disability.


You know who paid their copays 95% or the time, and payed their self pay bills in full with cash at time of service? Illegal Hispanics working down the road at the chicken plant.

It's the bed WE made and we're going to have to lay in it. I have a hard time believing that people will just throw uo their hands and let it collapse completely. There is more than one way to fix the situation. There's absolutely no reason to allow illegal immigration, period. Doesn't matter if it's a migrant worker fro Mexico or a grad student from Norway.


Be here legally, no worries. Here illegally? Go back and come in legally.

Making that bed will take decades to fix. And until it's fixed.. throwing out all illegal immigrants overnight is a sure fire way to send us into a depression we might not escape.

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Posted by hydorah
it's pretty cool, it's even better that it triggers the OP and sultrykitty

But seiously it's cool

I'm not triggered, I'm enjoying reading. But Obama was a huge failure and an empty suit.

Why?


Why was he a failure? Because he brought America out of the brink of devestation or cause he's black

Because neither. Economic stats (real ones) say it all. I'm all about results and couldn't care less about what a president thinks about social issues. Let society hash it out. Obama wasn't any different than Bush, tbh.

Exactly. It’s all business.


If people expect one man to fix all of this messed up societies problems, they are in for a lifetime of disappointment

Same could be said about one man fixing the economy.

The economy is much less complex

A $ 20 billion dollar wall surely won't be what fixes the economy.

Are you certain?


Gotta spend money to make money

I know that the large majority of our agri industry is dependent upon illegal workers. They go.. and it all falls apart. It's already been proven in Alabama.


So yeah.. in this case, we'd be spending money to lose money.


The wall is not an economic benefit. It's a social benefit.

Then agri needs to work with the Feds to come up with a legal way to be able to hire migrant workers at lower than minimum wage if they need them so badly.


As far as that goes, the number of agri workers sure doesn't amount to the number of illegals coming across, and more and more farms in the US are using automation for picking and processing.

Ask Alabama how it worked out for them.

They didn't negotiate to pay what the migrants would accept? I mean, farmers have used migrants for years, the difference is that now they don't move on when the season ends. There's no reason that the migrants have to be illegal unless the farmer is paying too much under the table to avoid payroll taxes and insurance.

1. That's exactly what farmers do. Farmers can't afford the payroll taxes by employing legal workers.


2. There was no negotiation. The Governor basically said that we will find you and deport you. And farmers than are employing them will be held accountable and jailed.


What happened? Illegal workers packed up their families and moved.


The result?


An Alabama agri industry took a huge hit from not being able to harvest and ship. Lost crops. Lost money.


Also.. the Alabama economy took a huge hit because the illegal population was so large, that when they left.. that was money NOT being spent on goods and services.


Folks like to complain that illegal workers take American jobs and don't pay taxes. But the fact is that they take the jobs no American is willing to work, and spend all their hard earned money in the cities that would struggle without them there.


Fun fact: When I was working in the ER collecting money from patients, you know who the least likely to pay copays were? White men and women on disability.


You know who paid their copays 95% or the time, and payed their self pay bills in full with cash at time of service? Illegal Hispanics working down the road at the chicken plant.

It's the bed WE made and we're going to have to lay in it. I have a hard time believing that people will just throw uo their hands and let it collapse completely. There is more than one way to fix the situation. There's absolutely no reason to allow illegal immigration, period. Doesn't matter if it's a migrant worker fro Mexico or a grad student from Norway.


Be here legally, no worries. Here illegally? Go back and come in legally.

Making that bed will take decades to fix. And until it's fixed.. throwing out all illegal immigrants overnight is a sure fire way to send us into a depression we might not escape.

Interesting read:


https:// fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-8/agribusiness_rev.pdf

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Posted by hydorah
it's pretty cool, it's even better that it triggers the OP and sultrykitty

But seiously it's cool

I'm not triggered, I'm enjoying reading. But Obama was a huge failure and an empty suit.

Why?


Why was he a failure? Because he brought America out of the brink of devestation or cause he's black

Because neither. Economic stats (real ones) say it all. I'm all about results and couldn't care less about what a president thinks about social issues. Let society hash it out. Obama wasn't any different than Bush, tbh.

Exactly. It’s all business.


If people expect one man to fix all of this messed up societies problems, they are in for a lifetime of disappointment

Same could be said about one man fixing the economy.

The economy is much less complex

A $ 20 billion dollar wall surely won't be what fixes the economy.

Are you certain?


Gotta spend money to make money

I know that the large majority of our agri industry is dependent upon illegal workers. They go.. and it all falls apart. It's already been proven in Alabama.


So yeah.. in this case, we'd be spending money to lose money.


The wall is not an economic benefit. It's a social benefit.

Then agri needs to work with the Feds to come up with a legal way to be able to hire migrant workers at lower than minimum wage if they need them so badly.


As far as that goes, the number of agri workers sure doesn't amount to the number of illegals coming across, and more and more farms in the US are using automation for picking and processing.

Ask Alabama how it worked out for them.

They didn't negotiate to pay what the migrants would accept? I mean, farmers have used migrants for years, the difference is that now they don't move on when the season ends. There's no reason that the migrants have to be illegal unless the farmer is paying too much under the table to avoid payroll taxes and insurance.

1. That's exactly what farmers do. Farmers can't afford the payroll taxes by employing legal workers.


2. There was no negotiation. The Governor basically said that we will find you and deport you. And farmers than are employing them will be held accountable and jailed.


What happened? Illegal workers packed up their families and moved.


The result?


An Alabama agri industry took a huge hit from not being able to harvest and ship. Lost crops. Lost money.


Also.. the Alabama economy took a huge hit because the illegal population was so large, that when they left.. that was money NOT being spent on goods and services.


Folks like to complain that illegal workers take American jobs and don't pay taxes. But the fact is that they take the jobs no American is willing to work, and spend all their hard earned money in the cities that would struggle without them there.


Fun fact: When I was working in the ER collecting money from patients, you know who the least likely to pay copays were? White men and women on disability.


You know who paid their copays 95% or the time, and payed their self pay bills in full with cash at time of service? Illegal Hispanics working down the road at the chicken plant.

It's the bed WE made and we're going to have to lay in it. I have a hard time believing that people will just throw uo their hands and let it collapse completely. There is more than one way to fix the situation. There's absolutely no reason to allow illegal immigration, period. Doesn't matter if it's a migrant worker fro Mexico or a grad student from Norway.


Be here legally, no worries. Here illegally? Go back and come in legally.

Making that bed will take decades to fix. And until it's fixed.. throwing out all illegal immigrants overnight is a sure fire way to send us into a depression we might not escape.

Interesting read:


https:// fairus.org/sites/default/files/2017-8/agribusiness_rev.pdf

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Dang...I just typed in the link. Maybe I can find the pathway. I'd copy/paste the highlights,

but the site is on my desktop and I'm on my phone.

PM it to me when you find a working link

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