Are Libras Abusive? (Page 3)

The Libran, I'm NOT ready to move on. I just don't give up on people. Yeah, that may make me gullible but I sure have seen some miracles by "hanging in there." IF she doesn't respond at all, that's one answer.

Then you can start experimenting on her Atom. One easy way is to explain to her what exactly what you want in the simplest direct fashion and ask her what you have to do to get that.

***Atom, as long as you don't run away from us. We want you✨**

Huh? Libra, please elaborate...

Dam fire signs are persistant.... It might pay off in the end though but it isn't supposed to be this hard.

I think Libra means .... not to run away from us on the board?

What's wrong with being persistant?? and yeah, its not meant to be that hard...no wonder we've all got sore heads all the time from banging them against the wall so much!!!

* It might pay off in the end though but it isn't supposed to be this hard.

Agreed.

Atom, I don't think anyone will celebrate or say, "I told you so." I think everyone just wants your happiness. No one wins in these things.

I think at this point if she comes around then it will be for you and not for her. She will ignore the her feelings of not wanting to be with you because she feels bad that you have gone through so much just to get her.

If, and I am not saying this is the case. If she has been concealing negative feelings towards you for your tenacity in an area that she does not want you feeling for you then she will see it as a confrontation of sorts. There are several ways to end a confrontation....and there are no rules in one, only the end objective as far as the Libran is concerned. The reason you need to pull away and accept the possibility of never getting her romantically is if she does feel as described she will hurt you more in the end. One last blow to make sure you get it so she doesn't have to deal with it again.

I think you provide some sort of comfort for her, that you have peaked her curiosity for either you or through you in a concept or idea that you gave her without knowing it. But she may just want to be friends.

She may just be frustrated too. Your persistant but your not take-charge and in any initial physical adventure with a Libra....there has to be a lot of raw passion in the initiation especially for Libra women.

It is honestly really hard to tell which scenario you are in. I will say this, if a Libra girl is frustrated enough and does want you really bad no matter how passive you are she would have taken the lead and dominated you. The fact this hasn't happened in this long shows me that she does not have those kinds of feelings for you.

I just thought of something.

She may not be sure if she wants a romantic relationship with you, and thinks after watching and analyzing you that if you do become intimate you will become very attatched and that itself to her is more than enough reason to not.

Honestly I think that is it. She knows she could break your heart and she doesn't want that kind of power or responsibility.

A lot of your actions and personality in this, while true to yourself does show that you put her first, before yourself to the point of sacrafice and that is going to turn her off. I don't mean that sexually but in the sense of seeing you as a mate. We, and mroeso the women of our sign wants an assertive mate who is not going to look past what needs to happen or what they really want in favor for what we want. Libra women are really sensitive to this and I have a feeling she is taking your succumbing to her as a kind of pressure. She has to really think about what she does and says and hold back more than she would because your putting her above you and that isn't romantic to us it is silly.

She hasn't figured out yet that your flair and romance and charm are genuine. She is keeping in strong consideration that it could be or is a show to try and get her. A libra woman is not going to fall in love with you over a perfectly prepared dinner that took a lot of planning, skill, and technique to accomplish. She is going to fall in love with when after walking through town talking you stop in front of a hole in the wall mom and pop resteraunt and you insist that is the place you eat.

She wants to see the real you, the things you really like not you while you are at your best. She wants to see you overcome with dominance and stride a hard situation, she doesn't want to see or hear you perfectly play a classic compostion on the piano...she wants to hear you struggling in the corner, frustratingly trying to figure out how you should play the next part of a song you have been secretly trying to write.

This is the kind of woman your dealing with.

Thank you, nic'. I think I have it pretty much figured out that I'm just me with her---take it or leave it. Yeah, I've done the dinner thing and the concert thing, etc. But she's also seen me in all sorts of other moods, not "on" to try to impress her. That's not me. The making dinner, etc., is just my way of showing how much I care. Frankly, there's probably nothing I can do to "win" her. I'm with Chatz as far as ramming (yeah, yeah, Aries humour) my head against wall after wall.

I HAVE put her first, maybe more so than I should have---geesh, most women like that! (Right, Leo Lass?).

She certainly won't get any pressure from me from now on. I certainly didn't see it that way, nic', but you were very succinct in your explanation----(yeah, we Fire Signs can be logical at times too).

So I have an "Oh well," attitude right now. It's to the point where no matter what I ATTEMPT to do w/ Libra Girl, I've blown it.

Case in point: I haven't heard from her AT ALL since Wednesday----and that feels as if being with her really didn't matter (notice: FEELS---so I may be wrong). I haven't quite figured out the art of Libra where they can go away or be incommunicado for a few days and it's like they totally forgot about you (please note, LS, I don't even do that with my FRIENDS).

My take on this right now, especially from nic's comments, is that Libra Girl has all of this figured out and is weighing (oh, yeah, the scales things) all my actions, etc., deciding what to do. You Libran are GENIUSES! 'Cause I certainly couldn't do that.

I "think" she's going to come out of the woodwork with one of her little enticements to get together. Maybe because she really IS just lonely and doesn't want to be. Maybe because I've always been a loyal friend running to her every beck and call. But I think all of you have mirrored / made it clear that her communication / persuasion would certainly not be for romantic reasons.

The main thing I was trying to show, the basic theme is that in her eyes (i was writing based on her perspective ie how she sees you, what you do, regardless if that is how you really are or who you really are) is that it is her, not you. It is obvious to all of us that she would be lucky to have a guy like you, any woman would...but she just isn't opening up to the possibility. And from another libra, that is one of the hardest things to articulate because from the outside it looks like rejection. to us, the way we see it is that it isn't rejection, it is not accepting. I know, symmantics but for some reason there seems to be a difference to us, and it might just be because we don't like to FEEL like we hurt someone else. An intention versus the outcome thing. In the end it is the same but we have a hard time feeling like we were hurtful even when we werent trying to be but we were just being ourselves.

Not the one I know. They are too busy crying over 2-week old road-kill.

nic', your comments are MOST appreciated. I've been thinking a lot about all this (hey, have to come to some kind of conclusion!) and the main thing I am aiming for is to make sure she doesn't feel like she has hurt me in ANY way. That may take time or distance or just better communication. Anyway, I'm content I've reached that conclusion. Even if I have to move on, hopefully she'll know how I've felt about her.