Advice on Cancer Silent Treatment
Posted by greylaternThis did a lot for me emotionally, thank you. I think I need to work on slowing my roll and trusting the process. It’s been whirlwind for me in recent weeks because of unrelated factors & after getting feedback on here I can see that I clung too hard too quickly and need to curve that if I’m going to render any success with this guy.
@aquariancrybaby
Your spiraling emotionally and your going to take your cancer with you.
Your smothering him.
Chill out. Cheer and support the poor guy. You know damn well he misses you too. What your doing is torturing him. If you become to distracting and he becomes not functional, you will blow up the relationship.
The fact you miss him so much that is causes you pain, means you love him just as much correct? The opposite of pain is Joy. Focus on that instead and go about your day knowing that you are lucky enough to have found someone like that. Cheerish it and express that to him instead.
Keep these in mind when your feeling down.
When you think he isn't there know that he is.
When you think you are not talking to him, know that you are.
Send him stuff about your day and ask about his. Time it if possible after the bulk of his day is done.
Send him a picture or meme that you will know he would love or laugh at.
Give him glimpses of things to look forward to when he gets home.
Most importantly Send him your love, support, and passion. Not the pain but the source of it. The love and joy you feel.
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or when a friend's loved one died?
loss of feelings... but why do i miss her? is this a "push-and-pull" kind of thing? i don't understand... it's like a schrodinger's cat... i don't love her anymore but i still love her. it's weird...
Posted by EffortlessNot hardly.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou have a lot to learn about the ugly changes going on in Europe.Posted by EffortlessLet's allow the fire inspectors determine what happened.
Construction Workers were not present at the time of the fire. Fifty bucks says this was intention, and 100 bucks says it was Mohammed's sons doing the arson.
Per Journalist report of Sotiri Dimpinoudis
"At the time of the fire, no construction work was going on at the iconic cathédrale Notre-Dame de #Paris church. #NotreDame #France"
Source:
https://twitter.com/sotiridi
I sincerely hope this was not intentional.click to expand
I literally passed through Keleti station a week before a bunch of migrants showed up. I had locals in several places sharing "discomfort" with the conduct of "migrants".
It's one of those potential powder keg things.
I don't engage in conspiracy theories except as entertainment.
That said....
It's one thing to put up with politically correct bullshit, it's quite another to have an incident on the scale of Notre Dame as an international act.
If the inspectors determine it was intentional, Charles Martel might rise from the grave.
Posted by Arielle83Posted by giaHe’s insecure and he’s testing your feelings.Posted by Arielle83
Call his bluff and say “ok break up then”.
Say it apathetically and don’t react to what he says next.
He’ll either say you’re done or he’ll say he’s joking.
If he says you’re done, go home and block his number.
If he says he’s joking, say you’re not and go home and block his number.
Thank you!! I'll try this next time. I tried this with my virgo male bestie who is eerily similar to my virgo boyfriend in nature - the extreme stubborn behavior, the threats if things are not done as per their wish, the impulsive aggressive actions, blaming the other person, ugly mouth when teased even a bit, 0 ability to take jokes on them but 100% ability to bully someone else, assuming they are more intelligent than everyone else. Only difference is that since my friend is 5 years older to us he is a wee bit matured now.
You advice worked on my friend each time he did the exact same thing but I doubt if it will work on my boyfriend because he's even more sensitive and egoistic than my virgo friend. But I'll still try it the next time.
Oh and I forgot to mention, I did try this on my virgo guy, last week. He was asking me to email him something I had genuinely deleted but he thought I am making excuses. So he said "I've begged you 100 times and I am warning you that you're making me mad and it will lead to a breakup". I playfully said "okay then breakup". He immediately blocked me from everywhere. Phone,sms, whatsapp,facebook. Hours later he texted a big paragraph on how he's done with me forever and I'm dead for him because I've hurt him way too much. The next day we had to meet in college and we always sit together. I didn't expect him to sit with me but he looked for me when he entered the class and sat next to me. He looked at me and sternly said that we are just best friends now and no amount of begging or explanation will change his mind. That pissed me off because I couldnt believe he could do that over such a small thing. He said he was mad at me for not sending him the email but what made him take the breakup step was the fact that when he said he'll breakup I replied "okay then breakup" so that made him mad and hurt. He said I take him for granted. I got mad at him and I started crying lol. Then he came and hugged and yeah.
He wants a reaction.
I’m saying to do that to give yourself space from him to see what you want.
Not to see if he’ll beg for you.
It’s all push and pull to see who has the upper hand.
You gotta step back and clear your head of this drama.click to expand
He definitely is insecure. Actually a lot ,internally. And I only see it.
I know it's not a good thing to say but he sees how much our classmates respect me and ask for my opinions right in front of him, and our professors praise me a lot right in front of him, and this guy from our class looks at me way too much(and my bf hates him). He puts me down by making me feel like I am stupid and I look bad. I realized it all stems from his own insecurity that everyone at college respects me so much. When he realizes it's hurtful and he's crossing the line,he'll stop.
And you're absolutely right about wanting the reaction. He has this habit of teasing people to see how they react.
About stepping back - he said he needs a little break after college is done because he has to focus on an entrance exam he has been preparing for. I think that will be a good time where we'll be focused on our own thing and some space from each other and meet once or twice a month. Gives time to clear your head.
**FYI Super detailed and written on my phone, so may need some editing lol ***
New here, but have been reading a lot in this forum and the Scorpio forum ( I am a Scorpio). Not exactly well versed in Astrology, but I'm learning. I have a ton of questions about this woman I am seeing and have learned a ton already by reading the forums.
She is absolutely amazing! The perfect combo of tough and soft being a red headed cowgirl! I'm a cowboy/rancher, so that tends to be my type lol She is 34 and I'm 32. It wasn't like love at first sight, but the more time I spend with her and the more I learn about her, the more I realize I am developing some seriously strong feelings for her.
Now, I'm an emotional Scorprio and some times mistake love for lust, but there is only one girl I can look back on in my life and still feel like it was real love. I still don't trust my "Love Sensor" but this is close to what I felt for that girl. However, it is so different and unique from what I've felt before.
She is so hard to read, which I understand most Virgos are from everything I am reading. Yet, I find I understand her better than anyone I know. She makes so much sense to me (well for the most part lol Have a lot to learn about her!). She is opposite me in so many ways, but they all seem to be the kind that compliment my weaknesses. Which is how I always thought a relationship should be, but never really experienced that. Usually they bring out my weaknesses.
I've been friends with this woman for 5+ years. We were never really super close but she has been there for me and vise versa. We would hang out maybe a 1-2 times a month, if that... usually at the bar or go to a concert. If one of us was at the bar alone and asked if the other wanted to come, there was rarely a time we didn't show up for one another. I've always been attracted to her but, never realized I actually have feelings for her until more recently.
Anyway, we started spending more time with each other after her ex cheated on her 8 times... I'm glad I never met him because I probably would have relocated his face to the back of his head! She finally ended the relationship last year some time (don't know when specifically). We didn't get to see / talk tk each other nearly as much in the 3-4 yrs they were together, so I think he was really controlling from what everything she's told me. At the same time, I never met him because he never went out with her. So can't say for sure.
Being a Virgo woman and having been hurt by so many men, she will open up about somethings, but she is very guarded about her past relationships. Maybe she is afraid to face the emotions like it seems would be normal for a Virgo? She just tells me "There are some things I just don't talk about." Which is ok with me, I'm extremely patient and not pushy about it (usually). Some things are better left in the past, but not everything. I want her to trust me and to get to know her at her pace though, so I'm in no hurry. I do honestly want to know her on a deeper level some day though and I've told her this.
When we got around to hanging out like we used to it was obvious to me that she was into me and we kind of hit it off and after a couple weeks it became intimate (though she is dodgy about kissing me even to this day). After the second time, I asked her where she saw this going because I don't do FWB. She said she would like to see if it leads somewhere but she wasn't ready for something serious and needed to go slow.
Something I understand very well and need myself. At least I have learned to need it to prevent my emotions from overriding my logic.
After that we began spending more and more time together on more than a friend basis, she even allowed me to be around her 10 yr old son. I've taken them to the zoo and to dinner several occasions now. She doesn't let me sleep over there when he is there, but the thing is, I'm a dad too and totally respect her for it. Lot of women say that, but the next night they want you to stay... She never bends that rule. I like that kind of stuff about her.
We have only been "unofficially dating" for 3 months and the first month or two was amazing. She started to get a little distant after that... Stopped liking my Facebook posts, became a little stand offish in public, etc. It was hard for me at first until I started reading about Virgos and once I understood why they do that, she made perfect sense to me. Though my insecurities still creep on me every now and then. The thing is, she has never stopped initiating contact. If I'm quiet too long, she will send me a meme or a picture of what she is up to (she is a nanny).
I had to go out of state twice and of course I got a little insecure but actually did a good job not showing it. That was until I was visiting my oldest son in Seattle. Things were kind of up and down with her and I knew she was stressed so didn't think much of that.
One morning I ask her how she slept and she said she had been up since 1 am. I asked why and all she told me was a friend called. Then on Facebook a while later, I see a picture of a guy kind of laying on her side sleeping with his arm around her waist. Now we haven't had the "mutually exclusive" status yet, but I think we both feel that way.
My initial reaction was that she slept with this guy, given my own insecurities. The real issue for me was a misunderstanding because I thought this guy had come to her house and slept over while her son was there. That is what bothered me the most, because I have never known her to sleep around. We cleared that up. She also told me she didn't sleep with him. I believe her. She ha a lot of male friends and I have a lot of female friends. The thing is, I would never do something like that with a female friend out of respect for their relationship and mine. Even though it was nothing sexual. I did tell her that if she wants to sleep with other men, she can and I still want to date her, but I can't be intimate with her, so she had to honest and upfront about it. She didn't really respond to that.
Anyway, we worked it out and honestly it wasn't as big of a deal as it felt in the moment. I'm fine with her having male friends as long as I can trust her and I think I do for the most part (maybe my insecurities hold me back?). I've never known her to sleep around, even when single. I told her I trust her and wouldn't be with her if I thought she was that kind of woman, but it would take me some time to be 100% comfortable with it. Basically saying she still has to earn my trust in the relationship before I can completely let go of my insecurities (and I intend on earning hers).
After that, she was almost like she was the first month we were together... Super excited to talk to me and talking about making future plans. Well this only lasted a couple days, but mainly because she found out she may be loosing her current clients and will have to look for different work. So I know she was stressed and didn't think much of it.
So now for what all that rambling was background for:
I suffer from severe depression, PTSD, and other anxiety issues. I function ok 90% of the time, but when I hit bottom, I crash hard. This time of year is always hard for me because my dad passed away in April of 1990, so I usually get down. Add in the fact that I get emotional when I have to leave my son again and the fact that I don't get to see my youngest son (who is my biological son) at all and I can't help but feel bad about all that.
Anyway, I got emotional while we were messaging and told her I was down. I could tell she didn't know what to say. She said "I know" which kind of was hard to remember in my emotional state that to her, that is her way of acknowledging it, not a lack of caring like I felt at that moment. After a while of me not responding, she ask if there was anything she could do for me... Which meant a lot to me, because she rarely asks that. So that was all fine and I pulled myself out of my emotions after talking to her for a bit.
Then today, being the actual anniversary of my father's death, I was having a much harder time. I've told her about everything and why I was depressed. I know she thinks it's because of her some times, so I try to reassure her it's not and that she might just see my insecurities showing through.
Well I stayed strong most of the day, though I know I sounded depressed still. But when I got home (and most likely because I've 2 hrs of sleep every night for the last week), I was feely drained and couldn't contain my emotions anymore.
I told her I was down. We had talked about doing dinner tonight earlier but we were both too tired. I asked her if she would come over and cuddle with me for a little because I really needed someone. She just she had to be up early in the morning morning. I told her it was just for an hour at the most to get me out of my head a little. She still said she couldn't. I asked why she would get up at 1 am to go to that guy's house to lay with him because he needed her, but she couldn't do that for the guy she was actually dating (though she has done it for me before when we were just friends).
Her response was that at the moment, all she could to is talk to me and try to distract me. So I opened up and we talked, though her responses were very short and spaced out, but I know she was busy getting ready for the morning. Anyway, we ended the conversation and said our goodnight. Now here I am... Lol
So I'm not entirely sure what advice I am looking for exactly... Maybe some help understanding the situation from her perspective and what I could have done differently? I'm worried she will pull away from me now that I've shown too much emotion and weakness in the way of insecurities. But obviously I can't be sure one way or another until tomorrow when I can see how we interact.
So what are your thoughts or advice on how I should proceed or what I could have done differently?
New here, but have been reading a lot in this forum and the Scorpio forum ( I am a Scorpio). Not exactly well versed in Astrology, but I'm learning. I have a ton of questions about this woman I am seeing and have learned a ton already by reading the forums.
She is absolutely amazing! The perfect combo of tough and soft being a red headed cowgirl! I'm a cowboy/rancher, so that tends to be my type lol She is 34 and I'm 32. It wasn't like love at first sight, but the more time I spend with her and the more I learn about her, the more I realize I am developing some seriously strong feelings for her.
Now, I'm an emotional Scorprio and some times mistake love for lust, but there is only one girl I can look back on in my life and still feel like it was real love. I still don't trust my "Love Sensor" but this is close to what I felt for that girl. However, it is so different and unique from what I've felt before.
She is so hard to read, which I understand most Virgos are from everything I am reading. Yet, I find I understand her better than anyone I know. She makes so much sense to me (well for the most part lol Have a lot to learn about her!). She is opposite me in so many ways, but they all seem to be the kind that compliment my weaknesses. Which is how I always thought a relationship should be, but never really experienced that. Usually they bring out my weaknesses.
I've been friends with this woman for 5+ years. We were never really super close but she has been there for me and vise versa. We would hang out maybe a 1-2 times a month, if that... usually at the bar or go to a concert. If one of us was at the bar alone and asked if the other wanted to come, there was rarely a time we didn't show up for one another. I've always been attracted to her but, never realized I actually have feelings for her until more recently.
Anyway, we started spending more time with each other after her ex cheated on her 8 times... I'm glad I never met him because I probably would have relocated his face to the back of his head! She finally ended the relationship last year some time (don't know when specifically). We didn't get to see / talk tk each other nearly as much in the 3-4 yrs they were together, so I think he was really controlling from what everything she's told me. At the same time, I never met him because he never went out with her. So can't say for sure.
Being a Virgo woman and having been hurt by so many men, she will open up about somethings, but she is very guarded about her past relationships. Maybe she is afraid to face the emotions like it seems would be normal for a Virgo? She just tells me "There are some things I just don't talk about." Which is ok with me, I'm extremely patient and not pushy about it (usually). Some things are better left in the past, but not everything. I want her to trust me and to get to know her at her pace though, so I'm in no hurry. I do honestly want to know her on a deeper level some day though and I've told her this.
When we got around to hanging out like we used to it was obvious to me that she was into me and we kind of hit it off and after a couple weeks it became intimate (though she is dodgy about kissing me even to this day). After the second time, I asked her where she saw this going because I don't do FWB. She said she would like to see if it leads somewhere but she wasn't ready for something serious and needed to go slow.
Something I understand very well and need myself. At least I have learned to need it to prevent my emotions from overriding my logic.
After that we began spending more and more time together on more than a friend basis, she even allowed me to be around her 10 yr old son. I've taken them to the zoo and to dinner several occasions now. She doesn't let me sleep over there when he is there, but the thing is, I'm a dad too and totally respect her for it. Lot of women say that, but the next night they want you to stay... She never bends that rule. I like that kind of stuff about her.
We have only been "unofficially dating" for 3 months and the first month or two was amazing. She started to get a little distant after that... Stopped liking my Facebook posts, became a little stand offish in public, etc. It was hard for me at first until I started reading about Virgos and once I understood why they do that, she made perfect sense to me. Though my insecurities still creep on me every now and then. The thing is, she has never stopped initiating contact. If I'm quiet too long, she will send me a meme or a picture of what she is up to (she is a nanny).
I had to go out of state twice and of course I got a little insecure but actually did a good job not showing it. That was until I was visiting my oldest son in Seattle. Things were kind of up and down with her and I knew she was stressed so didn't think much of that.
One morning I ask her how she slept and she said she had been up since 1 am. I asked why and all she told me was a friend called. Then on Facebook a while later, I see a picture of a guy kind of laying on her side sleeping with his arm around her waist. Now we haven't had the "mutually exclusive" status yet, but I think we both feel that way.
My initial reaction was that she slept with this guy, given my own insecurities. The real issue for me was a misunderstanding because I thought this guy had come to her house and slept over while her son was there. That is what bothered me the most, because I have never known her to sleep around. We cleared that up. She also told me she didn't sleep with him. I believe her. She ha a lot of male friends and I have a lot of female friends. The thing is, I would never do something like that with a female friend out of respect for their relationship and mine. Even though it was nothing sexual. I did tell her that if she wants to sleep with other men, she can and I still want to date her, but I can't be intimate with her, so she had to honest and upfront about it. She didn't really respond to that.
Anyway, we worked it out and honestly it wasn't as big of a deal as it felt in the moment. I'm fine with her having male friends as long as I can trust her and I think I do for the most part (maybe my insecurities hold me back?). I've never known her to sleep around, even when single. I told her I trust her and wouldn't be with her if I thought she was that kind of woman, but it would take me some time to be 100% comfortable with it. Basically saying she still has to earn my trust in the relationship before I can completely let go of my insecurities (and I intend on earning hers).
After that, she was almost like she was the first month we were together... Super excited to talk to me and talking about making future plans. Well this only lasted a couple days, but mainly because she found out she may be loosing her current clients and will have to look for different work. So I know she was stressed and didn't think much of it.
So now for what all that rambling was background for:
I suffer from severe depression, PTSD, and other anxiety issues. I function ok 90% of the time, but when I hit bottom, I crash hard. This time of year is always hard for me because my dad passed away in April of 1990, so I usually get down. Add in the fact that I get emotional when I have to leave my son again and the fact that I don't get to see my youngest son (who is my biological son) at all and I can't help but feel bad about all that.
Anyway, I got emotional while we were messaging and told her I was down. I could tell she didn't know what to say. She said "I know" which kind of was hard to remember in my emotional state that to her, that is her way of acknowledging it, not a lack of caring like I felt at that moment. After a while of me not responding, she ask if there was anything she could do for me... Which meant a lot to me, because she rarely asks that. So that was all fine and I pulled myself out of my emotions after talking to her for a bit.
Then today, being the actual anniversary of my father's death, I was having a much harder time. I've told her about everything and why I was depressed. I know she thinks it's because of her some times, so I try to reassure her it's not and that she might just see my insecurities showing through.
Well I stayed strong most of the day, though I know I sounded depressed still. But when I got home (and most likely because I've 2 hrs of sleep every night for the last week), I was feely drained and couldn't contain my emotions anymore.
I told her I was down. We had talked about doing dinner tonight earlier but we were both too tired. I asked her if she would come over and cuddle with me for a little because I really needed someone. She just she had to be up early in the morning morning. I told her it was just for an hour at the most to get me out of my head a little. She still said she couldn't. I asked why she would get up at 1 am to go to that guy's house to lay with him because he needed her, but she couldn't do that for the guy she was actually dating (though she has done it for me before when we were just friends).
Her response was that at the moment, all she could to is talk to me and try to distract me. So I opened up and we talked, though her responses were very short and spaced out, but I know she was busy getting ready for the morning. Anyway, we ended the conversation and said our goodnight. Now here I am... Lol
So I'm not entirely sure what advice I am looking for exactly... Maybe some help understanding the situation from her perspective and what I could have done differently? I'm worried she will pull away from me now that I've shown too much emotion and weakness in the way of insecurities. But obviously I can't be sure one way or another until tomorrow when I can see how we interact.
So what are your thoughts or advice on how I should proceed or what I could have done differently?
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Last year, we ended each battle of wits by saying "ole ignant ass" in competing greasy slimy tones, Lol, making each other laugh at whoever was the most greasy sounding.
When we exhausted all greasiness, we revamped by who could mumble or whisper it most nonchalantly. That one was about the best timing... we'd do it at restaurants, at the check out line, lol.
We have humorous battles over which one of the children's flaws belong to who. Whenever they do something stupid, we say "that's ya boy" or "that's ya girl." Virgo added a twist by saying it sarcastically when it is blatantly a flaw they inherited from him. The indicator is that he'll make a goofy ugly face when he knows it's his flaw but still say, "that's ya boy."
When we exhausted all greasiness, we revamped by who could mumble or whisper it most nonchalantly. That one was about the best timing... we'd do it at restaurants, at the check out line, lol.
We have humorous battles over which one of the children's flaws belong to who. Whenever they do something stupid, we say "that's ya boy" or "that's ya girl." Virgo added a twist by saying it sarcastically when it is blatantly a flaw they inherited from him. The indicator is that he'll make a goofy ugly face when he knows it's his flaw but still say, "that's ya boy."
Posted by greylaternThank you for your reply. You're spot on about literally having to teach each other about our different personality. Communication is the most essential key here and he's not too good at that. I am all up for a fair argument or discussion but when he's angry he just won't listen to one word you say but just keep exploding his angry feelings. He gets highly impulsive, aggressive and ugly mouthed. If you say something bad on the scale of 1/10, he'll hurt you back on the scale of 10/10. That's how he behaves when angry. I call him out on this behavior. I tell him he's too impulsive and irrational when angry and he internally agrees with me. He is way too high on personal attacks.Posted by giaVirgos picses work just fine.Posted by NoName282Posted by giaPisces and Virgos don't get a long
My title says it all - how frustrated I am. How can someone lack even basic to basic sense of understanding ?!?! Is this a Virgo thing or my boyfriend is just being a controlling jerk? He has to have everything his way and if I don't, then he gets so mad that he doesn't even hesitate breaking up. You'll laugh at the immaturity if I give you 1 example which happened less than 5 minutes ago.
We both are working on an important project which is expensive and we are equally contributing but he's paying from his card and I have transferred my amount of share to his account. We are supposed to buy some important parts for the project today and we can't delay it any further so he's suppose to make the payment today. Yesterday, I changed my whatsapp display photo and he said that it looks bad and i am must change it. I changed it to something else and again he said it looks bad. So I asked him for his opinion because he has tonnes of photos of me clicked by him. He picked out one and asked me to change it to that. Now the thing with that photo is that he altered the original photo and edited and increased the size of my boobs and ass (weird, IK!!).
I have cousins and family on whatsapp and they are pretty conservative(I told him about it) and so I put up the original photo as my DP and not the altered one which he asked me to. HE STOPPED TALKING and it didn't make sense to me because i told him the reason!! Half an hour ago I texted him that he's gotto pay now for the project else we'll be screwed. He said "first change your DP, or forget about the project".
I can't believe that the guy lacks basic sense of understanding. Is this typical of a virgo guy? How do i handle this? I can't let him control me this way. He clearly lacks understanding,even basic sense of it. A relationship can never ever work this way. Please don't bash him,I've done that already. I just need some good suggestions on how to handle this behavior.
Thanks!!
(talking from experience - my parents)
I have read it all over the internet that it can be either a hit or a miss relationship. It all depends on how much can you adjust.
Do you mind sharing some bits about their relationship? as to why and how they don't get along? Feel free to ignore if it's too personal xD
.... after you realise you litterally have to teach each other about yourselves, point of view, and stick to your guns/call each other on our shit. You will have to stop filter as much and speak your mind with a explaination. Opposition relationships can be actually worth having. Communication is key. My picses friend taught me to ease up and stop being so critical. I was the one who engaged this way admittedly. I was new to astrology, so I was very inquisitive in general. The important thing is I worked to understand her and spoke my mind without jugdement on either end.
You already pointed out he is spoiled. Controlling because he has always had his way. It was allowed without concesqunce. Is it his fault he was trained that way? No. It's adult time now.
Anyone else might kick him to the curb but God bless picses. You need to set your boundaries. Remind him when he crosses the line of said line. Focus on understanding and the exchange rather then result at first. Avoid personal attacks.
If things get toxic, don't care how much you care walk away. When you do though let him know why. That way he can't ego up and find a excuse as to why you left other then the truth. Which is his behavior( words and actions).click to expand
Sometimes I really wonder just how did he survive in his previous serious relationship of 2.5 years with his Leo ex girlfriend. He used to love her way too much until she cheated on him twice. He said they hardly fought in comparison to how much we do.
I know I haven't been the best girlfriend either because even I have done things which would drive anyone crazy but I am trying to get better for us. I hope this gets better, that's all I hope.
Posted by Gemitattinaah
Does the picture has anything to do with a project?
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspAgain, you don't know shit.Posted by EffortlessNot hardly.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspYou have a lot to learn about the ugly changes going on in Europe.Posted by EffortlessLet's allow the fire inspectors determine what happened.
Construction Workers were not present at the time of the fire. Fifty bucks says this was intention, and 100 bucks says it was Mohammed's sons doing the arson.
Per Journalist report of Sotiri Dimpinoudis
"At the time of the fire, no construction work was going on at the iconic cathédrale Notre-Dame de #Paris church. #NotreDame #France"
Source:
https://twitter.com/sotiridi
I sincerely hope this was not intentional.
I literally passed through Keleti station a week before a bunch of migrants showed up. I had locals in several places sharing "discomfort" with the conduct of "migrants".
It's one of those potential powder keg things.
I don't engage in conspiracy theories except as entertainment.
That said....
It's one thing to put up with politically correct bullshit, it's quite another to have an incident on the scale of Notre Dame as an international act.
If the inspectors determine it was intentional, Charles Martel might rise from the grave.click to expand
...And the evidence will provide the truth, which sets me free as usual.