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Posted by TheApparitionThis is not true.Posted by Black-Mamba
my thread title was going to be lesbians should get monthly stimulus checks cause they broke as hell being a couple
but this matter is a struggle for all women
we make less then men
pay us
White men make more money than white women; however, black women make more money then black men on average. so if anything black men should get a stimulus checkclick to expand
Posted by LittleStar_IIThey are also promoted up the ladder at a disproportionate rate.Posted by TheApparitionPosted by Black-Mamba
my thread title was going to be lesbians should get monthly stimulus checks cause they broke as hell being a couple
but this matter is a struggle for all women
we make less then men
pay us
White men make more money than white women; however, black women make more money then black men on average. so if anything black men should get a stimulus check
Black men still get paid more than black women. Where did you get that info?
https://iwpr.org/publications/gender-wage-gap-2018/click to expand
Posted by LoggerPosted by LittleStar_IIPosted by WitchmitchAries
Would if these White people are Jews? They earned everything they have.
holocaust survivor
Good lord. You realize neo Nazi far right idiots are anti-Jew, right?
Wrong - that's the far-left nazi's and communists. There aren't any anti-jews in this country except the muslim lovers and lefty lunatics that hate Israel.click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAries
Do any of you know the story of poor White Irish people and what they went through? that was one people who got no privilege and nether did the italians.
Posted by _DazedPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by _DazedPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by _Dazed
You forgot this part..
"Also, while the United States is not a fascist country, it does have fascist roots and a conservative party that uses fascist technique to corral it's base. Were it not for a constitution that separates and checks branches of government, Fascism could have easily taken hold in the US."
I didn't forget it, I figured I addressed how the fascism is irrelevant to my argument and quoted the part that covers it as not to confuse what Im addressing.
And you can say that about any democracy on this planet. "Were it not for this constitution/piece of paper/whathaveyou facism could easily have set its root" .
I'd argue that the Democrats and the leftist media as wind in the sail with the fake news, fear-mongering and race baiting of present day, is a more urgent threat to democratic values and the black communities than fascism.
News, fearmongering, etc.. are opinions that one can choose to believe or ignore.
I understand that you may not follow politics in the US as closely as I do, but my concern is at the judicial level where laws are interpreted. Judicial appointments are being made in record time under Trump and being filled by those with ideals based in nationalist and fascist beliefs. Laws and supreme court decisions that effect real lives.. not talking head media outlets I can turn off. Our courts are not the place for far-right ideologies. Judges are supposed to be impartial, middle of the road.
I've stated here many times before that I don't watch too much news media. Most of my days are spent watching CSPAN to witness with my own eyes the testimony in judiciary committees and US Supreme Court rulings. What I'm seeing is a far bigger threat than any protest could be.
What fascist beliefs, exactly? Hasn't the type of fascism you're talking about always been present in domestic US politics, and sort of accepted by the public? What's new now? That Republicans are in office and not the Democrats?
"News, fearmongering, etc.. are opinions that one can choose to believe or ignore."
So you acknowledge that news are basically opinions at this point? And which side owns most of the media space in the US? The president doesn't sway public opinion, mainstream media does and the way things are going that's a far greater threat to democracy and free speech than Trump.
What about liberal fascism, shut-down culture and the war on free speech in universities around the country and in the media?
And you're telling me a couple of MAGA hats on the far right who no one even takes seriously is what's wrong with America today?
So, no... you cannot just choose to shut off and pretend it isn't there, " believe or ignore". If the alt.right was the mainstream narrative in the media climate I could tell you the same, "shut off and ignore it". Could you?
Completely ignoring where my fear resides.. the Judicial branch of government in the US (where impartiality should reign supreme) , and instead focus on the media (which I've stated I don't watch much of).click to expand
Posted by Enfant-Terrible-IIYou don't understand what the branches of government in the US are or how they work, do you? Is that why you're avoiding that aspect and why media isn't my concern?Posted by _DazedPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by _DazedPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by _Dazed
You forgot this part..
"Also, while the United States is not a fascist country, it does have fascist roots and a conservative party that uses fascist technique to corral it's base. Were it not for a constitution that separates and checks branches of government, Fascism could have easily taken hold in the US."
I didn't forget it, I figured I addressed how the fascism is irrelevant to my argument and quoted the part that covers it as not to confuse what Im addressing.
And you can say that about any democracy on this planet. "Were it not for this constitution/piece of paper/whathaveyou facism could easily have set its root" .
I'd argue that the Democrats and the leftist media as wind in the sail with the fake news, fear-mongering and race baiting of present day, is a more urgent threat to democratic values and the black communities than fascism.
News, fearmongering, etc.. are opinions that one can choose to believe or ignore.
I understand that you may not follow politics in the US as closely as I do, but my concern is at the judicial level where laws are interpreted. Judicial appointments are being made in record time under Trump and being filled by those with ideals based in nationalist and fascist beliefs. Laws and supreme court decisions that effect real lives.. not talking head media outlets I can turn off. Our courts are not the place for far-right ideologies. Judges are supposed to be impartial, middle of the road.
I've stated here many times before that I don't watch too much news media. Most of my days are spent watching CSPAN to witness with my own eyes the testimony in judiciary committees and US Supreme Court rulings. What I'm seeing is a far bigger threat than any protest could be.
What fascist beliefs, exactly? Hasn't the type of fascism you're talking about always been present in domestic US politics, and sort of accepted by the public? What's new now? That Republicans are in office and not the Democrats?
"News, fearmongering, etc.. are opinions that one can choose to believe or ignore."
So you acknowledge that news are basically opinions at this point? And which side owns most of the media space in the US? The president doesn't sway public opinion, mainstream media does and the way things are going that's a far greater threat to democracy and free speech than Trump.
What about liberal fascism, shut-down culture and the war on free speech in universities around the country and in the media?
And you're telling me a couple of MAGA hats on the far right who no one even takes seriously is what's wrong with America today?
So, no... you cannot just choose to shut off and pretend it isn't there, " believe or ignore". If the alt.right was the mainstream narrative in the media climate I could tell you the same, "shut off and ignore it". Could you?
Completely ignoring where my fear resides.. the Judicial branch of government in the US (where impartiality should reign supreme) , and instead focus on the media (which I've stated I don't watch much of).
It doesn't matter that YOU don't watch media. The rest of the population does. Public opinion is not dictated by the White House, it hasn't been for a single day during the Trump administration.
And if you don't watch the media, if not necesserily for the content and the honesty, but for how things are spun, then you can't possibly have the full picture.
I tried unwinding from it all.. but unless you're gonna live without internet in the outskirts of society somewhere there's no avoiding having contrieved narrative of of the progressive left shoved down your throat.
We simply disagree about where the real power lies. Trump is not forever.click to expand
Posted by Black-MambaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Black-MambaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by Black-MambaPosted by Enfant-Terrible-IIPosted by akitu
Racism is lifelong trauma. Thinking about how much potential has been wasted because of it is so depressing.
Usually it's bred and cultivated within the minority community, not by whites. If you are a black kid and your mother, brother, father, sister keep telling you that your life is mapped out for you due to the white boogeyman, before you even had a chance to make your own choices in life, your vision and potential is going to be tainted by that, and with that your prospects.
It starts at home. Before the black kid even has an honest chance to interact with white people, he is destroyed by his own culture.
Y'll need to take accountability for that.
This is partially true, but not completely - do the opposite
and eventually the kid learns on their own that racism exists anyways at school, work, etc
There are all kinds of variations, circumstances and exceptions, sure. Not saying racism doesn't exist.. not saying it's possible to have 0% racism in any society either. And that's ok.
But if it's hammered into your head before you even had a shot at the world, your judgement and motivation is going to be clouded by that. I guarantee the success rate among blacks from similar backgrounds is way higher for those who have been raised in a home that doesn't cultivate victimhood.
The fact that a person's feelings alone is enough to call something racist also brings into question what privileges other people enjoy that will get a white person into trouble or fired without much questioning.
my father has the same argument
but no matter how much you stick your head in sand micro aggressions and racism happens daily
Micro-agressions? You mean that thing our parents called Interacting With People From Different Walks Of Life
I mean it starts when you're in school and the teacher treats you like shit cause of your color
that stuff affects you for life dudeclick to expand
Posted by SoulIt's no wonder all you want to do is sit on an astrology site and whine day after day, and opine about god knows what next, given the fact you dropped out of high school. How well do you think life can possibly go for you without even a rudimentary education?Posted by xy_sigh
I was wondering, what if I was born white, would I be less submissive. Would I be more abrasive and confident? Would I feel more free to express myself without too many thoughts to weight me down?
The way I think, the way I speak and the way I behave - were all coded from a young age?
Am I me or am I suffering from colonialist views? Who are you?
I'm white, and always felt extremely insecure and afraid to chase my real dreams/ goals due to fear of rejection and embarrassment. My parents divorc at a young age, and I'm a high school drop out. I ended up reclusive with trust issues and deep tormentors. On top of alcohol addiction.
I always felt real white privilege is just following the rest of sheep without asking questions, and forcing yourself to seem happy.click to expand
Posted by WitchmitchAriesI watched this a few days ago and enjoyed it. A conservative friend sent it to me, claiming that Owens "destroyed" Marc Lamont Hill in debate, but I think Hill had the better of the exchanges. Overall its an informative and respectful dialogue, other than maybe the gender discussion, a good entry point for anyone unfamiliar with both sides of these issues.
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