fading out without ghosting (getting someone to lose interest in you)
Posted by Findingbalanceyou’re right. he knows i’m with someone but he’s like one of those people who think if someone isn’t married yet, it’s fair game.Posted by serenidadPosted by MyStarsShine
I’d tell him it’s not working out and return the money he spent …
i offered. he declined.
he said the money was well spent cuz he had a great time. :/
he’s a really nice guy.
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I think you're a bit stuck because he's not able to remove himself from his fantasy that it could work. But that a guess entirely. Maybe try to redirect the convo into how he's going about meeting someone who he CAN have a relationship with?
I feel like trying to fade out won't work if someone is deluded already. Quite honestly though fading out isnt any better than ghosting, people still know what you're doing and it's not any less annoying/frustrating/hurtful (whatever you're trying to avoid by not ghosting, except that is, if you're trying to avoid adult in and speaking up on what's going on...which as someone that prefers to avoid confrontationI understand).
There's also the off possibility that he knows it's not going anywhere, he has a partner and this is a fantasy game for him. I've heard of stranger things. But really, how many people come here to post about (insert sun sign) that they think is coming onto them, having feelings etc but that person is in a relationship and when they actually tried to make it something it crashed and burned because the other person was only enjoying sone recreational flirting?
There's so many possibilities here.
If he's on your socials i imagine he knows you're in a committed relationship.click to expand
he says he’s single but whether he really is or not is none of my concern cuz i’m not trying to go anywhere with this dude if you know what i mean lol 😅
i gotta man up. that’s the only solution lol 😂
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You wanna be a boss babe, goahead. Enjoy your single life
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click to expand
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I know single moms are doing their best but I think it's not enough without a father.
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And then there's social media and the hookup culture facilitating cheating
It's really difficult now a days to keep a relationship alive.
I think there's some interesting points, but a lot of nuances.
Agree the manosphere and the more extremist elements of third wave feminism are toxic and create a phony narrative of girls vs boys mainly to younger people.
I think hookup culture existed way before Tinder. Ask any man whose been out on the pull in a bar or club.
I think some single parents are great at taking care of their children, while some plop their brats down in front of cocomelon and go out, but not to work. I've known single parents who are great parents.
Relationships have always been difficult I think less people stay together for convenience that's all that's changed.
click to expand
Much of that actually has to do with culture I think. Dating expectations, gender, feminism, rights, raising kids - all that has to do with where you are living. From my perspective there are no gender wars, toxic feminism or incel stuff. Much of that seems centric to the English speaking world, or just the USA.
Here it’s common to live together without being married. It actually is the most common way. We have a lot of single parents too and no one perceives that as a bad thing. It doesn’t come with any stigma.
Regarding hook up culture, how do people meet each other? You are horny, so you go to a club and hook up with someone. Later, if all is good, you maybe go and get a coffee together. You may meet again for more sex. If all is good more casual dating follows, eventually leading into a relationship somewhere down the line. It’s “I want sex, and I’m going to go for it”. Sex is a natural thing here – talked about, encouraged, and considered a healthy and fun thing to do – rather than being kept under lock and key until a man goes through a series of courting rituals to win the woman over. We cannot grasp the idea of waiting to have sex. That’s how it works here. But maybe in other parts of the world, the man is expected to chase and seduce the woman, while the woman holds back on sex because that’s the way to get commitment.
Gender roles are considered antiquated here. Ladies, this means you will open your own door and pay your own bills. The man is not expected to lead or plan the dates; it’s an equal job. And it is not unusual that a Scandinavian woman might be the one to approach a guy in a bar.
Because Scandinavian women LOOKS like a guys so they HAVE to so guy knows it’s a woman…click to expand
I think they are hot and put many others to shame because Vikings didn’t abduct the ugly ones 😉
But in the end, the idea of what you consider beautiful simply differs from place to place.
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does it make a difference if you already know them or not?
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state your moon and venus
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This has always been hard for me, especially if they've been part of my circle for a long time. Can't explain it but I have a problem with differentiating love between friends vs love between individuals.
does it make a difference if you already know them or not?
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...if you would like to keep a friendship with them?
Yeah, friendships are important to me but I realise it's not always possible.
state your moon and venus
Pisces, Pisces
Posted by StubbornSagittariusYeah I think I remember reading something like that along those lines about Saturn in the 8th house. As far as my chart as a whole goes, I don't think I can relate to it that much.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by StubbornSagittariusPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by StubbornSagittariusPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by StubbornSagittariusPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by StubbornSagittariusPosted by cersei
Omg it’s been so long since an astrologer has been in here! I’d appreciate if you could look at my chart (: thank you 😊
Wow your 1st and 12th are packed! You may appear like an Aquarius to most people because of your ascendant ofc but it doesn't mean that's how you are. And since you have so packed 12th house you will feel Piscean to the fullest Mars in 7th house suggests difficulties in long term relationships from what I know so far. And since your 7th house is im Leo you need someone who is kind, warm and big hearted. It also means you put an emphasize on relationships. I don't do readings, this is just a very small observation because I found your chart so interesting, due to these two houses so packed
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I have a fully packed 9th house and I don't feel like a Sagittarius. Charts are full of balony.
Yeah, but you're not Sag and she is a Pisces 😁 I have packed 8th house but I don't feel like Scorpio either. I only feel those things that are there in Scorpionic way, because my 8th house is in Scorpio in fact.
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A loaded 8th house? Damn. That sound worst than a packed 12th house. I bet you got tons of fear. And probably living with it.
5 objects in it, but only 2 are planets - Saturn and Pluto. I think saturn brings stability to that house and Pluto in it's own house can be both good and bad. Others are asteroids and SN. I have certain fears, but definitelly not that many. It's mainly related to loss of loved ones, loss of health and poverty...which are all pretty basic fears for most people I think
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Oh yeah I can relate to having a fear of lost loved ones. I'm more fear about ME dying. I know that nobody lives forever and we all must let go of the past and move on. But it's hard for some people.
I sort of don't have fear of that, just wouldn't want it to be long and painful, that would be my fear regarding that. Saturn's been shaking my fear in last half a year as it transits my 12th house, facing me with all my fears but I'm hoping for coming out of it stronger and braver as it's supposed to be... In which house is your Saturn?
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I have Saturn in the 8th house in Gemini. I did once tried looking that up to see what that mean and it's not anything exciting or interesting. Sound like a boring placement.
Saturn in 8th house indicates long life span and death of natural causes. Unless otherwise afflictedclick to expand
Gemini sun ❎
Libra rising ✅❎ yes and no. Being a people pleaser, nope. Pretty, yep
Gemini moon ❎
I don't know what benefit those cancers gives me (cancer Mars and Venus).
For true self presentations I now turn to personality types. I found that it's that that tells everything about me to a tee it's scary. I drop astrology like a hot potato.