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Posted by slugWhaaat?! An Aries!! Damn, I really nailed it then!! (pun intended) 😂Posted by IamTheRam
I don't know her Sun sign.
But Slug.
I like her snappy remarks, cute face, sexy hands and nails 👌
Woooo! Thanks I appreciate 😭. I'm also an Aries 🐏click to expand
Posted by AntiAnti2023His persistence shines but there's other Cardinals who I would consider even greater. Ronaldinho and Zidane come to mind. Many also forget that Messi was brought up by Barcelona and had the best opportunities and greatest teammates. He was spoiled and nurtured.Posted by Bumboklaat
Best Soccer players have been Fixed signs, Pele, Maradona. Cardinals are great too but usually have one or two good attributes.
If you look at greatest in all popular sports they're usually fixed signs.
Soccer is about reading the game. Which is why when you look at great players like Messi, they end up being one trick ponies, but if you want a well rounded player, look to the fixed ones.
Disciplined and cerebral would be why. I don’t understand the Messi hype either.click to expand
Posted by BumboklaatJust a note on the Ronaldo comming from "lower clubs".Posted by AntiAnti2023Posted by Bumboklaat
Best Soccer players have been Fixed signs, Pele, Maradona. Cardinals are great too but usually have one or two good attributes.
If you look at greatest in all popular sports they're usually fixed signs.
Soccer is about reading the game. Which is why when you look at great players like Messi, they end up being one trick ponies, but if you want a well rounded player, look to the fixed ones.
Disciplined and cerebral would be why. I don’t understand the Messi hype either.
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His persistence shines but there's other Cardinals who I would consider even greater. Ronaldinho and Zidane come to mind. Many also forget that Messi was brought up by Barcelona and had the best opportunities and greatest teammates. He was spoiled and nurtured.
Then compare to Ronaldo, who came from lower clubs and imo is not even the ideal body type for an offensive player of any kind (more like a defender) but has exceptional determination. More admirable imo.click to expand
Posted by IamTheRamLol. I was waiting for a Portuguese person to say that 😂Posted by BumboklaatPosted by AntiAnti2023Posted by Bumboklaat
Best Soccer players have been Fixed signs, Pele, Maradona. Cardinals are great too but usually have one or two good attributes.
If you look at greatest in all popular sports they're usually fixed signs.
Soccer is about reading the game. Which is why when you look at great players like Messi, they end up being one trick ponies, but if you want a well rounded player, look to the fixed ones.
Disciplined and cerebral would be why. I don’t understand the Messi hype either.
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His persistence shines but there's other Cardinals who I would consider even greater. Ronaldinho and Zidane come to mind. Many also forget that Messi was brought up by Barcelona and had the best opportunities and greatest teammates. He was spoiled and nurtured.
Then compare to Ronaldo, who came from lower clubs and imo is not even the ideal body type for an offensive player of any kind (more like a defender) but has exceptional determination. More admirable imo.
Just a note on the Ronaldo comming from "lower clubs".
Sporting's youth academy was at that time one of the best in the world, producing 2 Baloon D'or at that time, Ronaldo and Figo.
The most lucrative (aka #1) Youth football Academy in the world today, and ahead of Real Madrid that is 2nd with a very good margin, is Benfica (my club).
Just because we Portuguese clubs don't have money injected from the Arabias and Usa, it doesn't mean we are small...
Infact, for our total country population, what we manage to accomplish is astonishing, in the most played and watched sports in the world.
I know what you were trying to say, don't get me wrong mate lol..but it triggered me a bit so I had to say it heheclick to expand
Posted by MyStarsShinePrecisely because you went on a date for your own benefit of getting to know someone and they cannot expect anything physical from you. No free lunches in this world unless it’s your parents. 😆Posted by aquarius09Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by aquarius09Posted by AymillionPosted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
I don’t blame her for dumping you if this is a male and female date and you’re the male you should be paying every single time. I don’t care about all that new age “everybody’s equal and the exact same person” BS. Or fad. She’s the prize not you. You better earn it or show that you can. What else are you doing besides j acking off everyday and going to work. To a real woman if a man’s not showing his worth, you have none. The fact that who paid or pays is a huge issue to you “shows your character” and that’s all she needed to read. Or see. Real women are attracted to real men. That’s something I would argue with my girlfriends with lol not a man I’m looking to support a family with
Now this is what an entitled woman sounds like. Women like you irk me with your double standards, which are sooo outdated. Men paid before because women didn’t work so it logically followed that they did. That one sided financial means also made women cater a lot more for men back then which doesn’t happen when a woman is financially independent. Women are working and dates/first couple meetings are mutually beneficial. Why should the guy be paying? Because the woman is doing him a favour by meeting and assessing him as a dating prospect? Going by your weird logic, then men are okay to expect sex or kiss at the end of the date if they paid. Why is a random stranger paying for your drink or food? He’s not your family so why? Do you pay for strangers as a woman?
Take your own bill or don’t date. Alternatively, if you really want the guy to pay, then decide the play and pick the cheapest thing like Starbuckss for first couple dates. This Virgo chick has the right to reject for whatever reason but if it’s because of him expecting her to pay her share, then I’m glad the Op dodged a bullet with this entitled so called modern day woman with her outdated expectations.
Jeez.. this was almost a year ago, no idea why this thread was raised from the dead lol.
But anyway, in hindsight she was defensive from the beginning. She didn't socialize a ton so her friend had her get on a dating app, which is where we met.
I mentioned previously she ran a podcast with an emphasis on men's behavior and psychology. It seemed as if it was just women sharing negative experiences with men. That's why basically her opening line was asking if I had been to therapy a couple minutes after we got our wine. She's took the pessimistic route that all men have issues.
Now, we fast forward to where she asked me about my social media and I told her the truth, I barely use it. I never said I wouldn't add her but that could've sent off a trigger that i'm hiding something, considering how active she is. (She was frustrated because she couldn't find me when she could've just asked.)
There wasn't actual issue paying, the situation was that we went axe throwing and it was only an hour. She drove 1.5 hours and I didn't want to immediately invite her over considering she was fairly conservative, so I suggested a local bar down the street.
After eating the food, she asked about my cash app and I said she could sent it later. No need to have an awkward delay and then that was it. The bill was sitting there because we were still chatting... I wasn't waiting on her lol. Notice how critical the other Virgos are above.
No hard feelings towards her. Virgo in Venus is very critical and matter of fact behavior. I dated a Libra with a Virgo Venus about 4 months ago and she exhibited the similar behavior as Aymillion described. "That's YOUR job."
Libra paid twice after 3 months of dating. Actively, mind you. We seen each other 1-2 times a week and frequently went out.
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I know this is an old thread but it annoys me when women don’t want to pay their share but then also get upset that the men expected sex or physical intimacy. Similarly, I have an issue with when men expect sex or anything physical because they paid for the date. I rather men be honest with themselves and acknowledge that if they are paying then it’s because they want something physical in return. If you’re paying altruistically and have no expectation in return, then I’m all for that. However, most people do things with an ulterior motive and I can’t fault them for it. I mean why would a man pay for someone if he wasn’t expecting something.
I just keep it very clear and real for all parties involved that I’m paying for myself because I don’t want there to be an uncommunicated or ulterior expectations that if he’s paying for me so now I owe him physical intimacy. Usually men walk away butthurt when they get nothing. If a woman pays her share, then the dude is stripped off any ounce of entitlement he feels to sex or physical intimacy.
Agree
I’d much rather pay for myself
Not that I ever go on dates 😄click to expand
Posted by LuckyLibra7She drove 2 hours.. Did she pay for her own gas? Then ya kinda shouldn't be expecting her to pay for dinner :/
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
Posted by aquarius09Yes lolPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by aquarius09Posted by LuckyLibra7Posted by aquarius09Posted by AymillionPosted by LuckyLibra7
The second date consisted of axe throwing and food at a bar.
I'm not disagreeing it's not awkward, but if I've paid for 2 separate events now, it's polite to offer to pay her end at the very least.
It's pretty clear she had zero intention of paying, which might even be worse than not offering at all. Because now her character is in question.
Baffling as she drove almost 2 hours with traffic. So it's strange that she would sabotage herself.
I don’t blame her for dumping you if this is a male and female date and you’re the male you should be paying every single time. I don’t care about all that new age “everybody’s equal and the exact same person” BS. Or fad. She’s the prize not you. You better earn it or show that you can. What else are you doing besides j acking off everyday and going to work. To a real woman if a man’s not showing his worth, you have none. The fact that who paid or pays is a huge issue to you “shows your character” and that’s all she needed to read. Or see. Real women are attracted to real men. That’s something I would argue with my girlfriends with lol not a man I’m looking to support a family with
Now this is what an entitled woman sounds like. Women like you irk me with your double standards, which are sooo outdated. Men paid before because women didn’t work so it logically followed that they did. That one sided financial means also made women cater a lot more for men back then which doesn’t happen when a woman is financially independent. Women are working and dates/first couple meetings are mutually beneficial. Why should the guy be paying? Because the woman is doing him a favour by meeting and assessing him as a dating prospect? Going by your weird logic, then men are okay to expect sex or kiss at the end of the date if they paid. Why is a random stranger paying for your drink or food? He’s not your family so why? Do you pay for strangers as a woman?
Take your own bill or don’t date. Alternatively, if you really want the guy to pay, then decide the play and pick the cheapest thing like Starbuckss for first couple dates. This Virgo chick has the right to reject for whatever reason but if it’s because of him expecting her to pay her share, then I’m glad the Op dodged a bullet with this entitled so called modern day woman with her outdated expectations.
Jeez.. this was almost a year ago, no idea why this thread was raised from the dead lol.
But anyway, in hindsight she was defensive from the beginning. She didn't socialize a ton so her friend had her get on a dating app, which is where we met.
I mentioned previously she ran a podcast with an emphasis on men's behavior and psychology. It seemed as if it was just women sharing negative experiences with men. That's why basically her opening line was asking if I had been to therapy a couple minutes after we got our wine. She's took the pessimistic route that all men have issues.
Now, we fast forward to where she asked me about my social media and I told her the truth, I barely use it. I never said I wouldn't add her but that could've sent off a trigger that i'm hiding something, considering how active she is. (She was frustrated because she couldn't find me when she could've just asked.)
There wasn't actual issue paying, the situation was that we went axe throwing and it was only an hour. She drove 1.5 hours and I didn't want to immediately invite her over considering she was fairly conservative, so I suggested a local bar down the street.
After eating the food, she asked about my cash app and I said she could sent it later. No need to have an awkward delay and then that was it. The bill was sitting there because we were still chatting... I wasn't waiting on her lol. Notice how critical the other Virgos are above.
No hard feelings towards her. Virgo in Venus is very critical and matter of fact behavior. I dated a Libra with a Virgo Venus about 4 months ago and she exhibited the similar behavior as Aymillion described. "That's YOUR job."
Libra paid twice after 3 months of dating. Actively, mind you. We seen each other 1-2 times a week and frequently went out.
click to expand
I know this is an old thread but it annoys me when women don’t want to pay their share but then also get upset that the men expected sex or physical intimacy. Similarly, I have an issue with when men expect sex or anything physical because they paid for the date. I rather men be honest with themselves and acknowledge that if they are paying then it’s because they want something physical in return. If you’re paying altruistically and have no expectation in return, then I’m all for that. However, most people do things with an ulterior motive and I can’t fault them for it. I mean why would a man pay for someone if he wasn’t expecting something.
I just keep it very clear and real for all parties involved that I’m paying for myself because I don’t want there to be an uncommunicated or ulterior expectations that if he’s paying for me so now I owe him physical intimacy. Usually men walk away butthurt when they get nothing. If a woman pays her share, then the dude is stripped off any ounce of entitlement he feels to sex or physical intimacy.
Agree
I’d much rather pay for myself
Not that I ever go on dates 😄
Precisely because you went on a date for your own benefit of getting to know someone and they cannot expect anything physical from you. No free lunches in this world unless it’s your parents. 😆click to expand
Posted by Bumboklaathaha yeah 😂Posted by IamTheRamPosted by BumboklaatPosted by AntiAnti2023Posted by Bumboklaat
Best Soccer players have been Fixed signs, Pele, Maradona. Cardinals are great too but usually have one or two good attributes.
If you look at greatest in all popular sports they're usually fixed signs.
Soccer is about reading the game. Which is why when you look at great players like Messi, they end up being one trick ponies, but if you want a well rounded player, look to the fixed ones.
Disciplined and cerebral would be why. I don’t understand the Messi hype either.
click to expand
His persistence shines but there's other Cardinals who I would consider even greater. Ronaldinho and Zidane come to mind. Many also forget that Messi was brought up by Barcelona and had the best opportunities and greatest teammates. He was spoiled and nurtured.
Then compare to Ronaldo, who came from lower clubs and imo is not even the ideal body type for an offensive player of any kind (more like a defender) but has exceptional determination. More admirable imo.
Just a note on the Ronaldo comming from "lower clubs".
Sporting's youth academy was at that time one of the best in the world, producing 2 Baloon D'or at that time, Ronaldo and Figo.
The most lucrative (aka #1) Youth football Academy in the world today, and ahead of Real Madrid that is 2nd with a very good margin, is Benfica (my club).
Just because we Portuguese clubs don't have money injected from the Arabias and Usa, it doesn't mean we are small...
Infact, for our total country population, what we manage to accomplish is astonishing, in the most played and watched sports in the world.
I know what you were trying to say, don't get me wrong mate lol..but it triggered me a bit so I had to say it hehe
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Lol. I was waiting for a Portuguese person to say that 😂
You got me. But he didn't shine right away mainly due to his style . It was in Manchester where he outran the fastest and one of the most physical leagues.
Also comparing Messi's initial teammates being the best of that decade and him relying on them is the biggest difference.
Also related to what you said, add that Ronaldo is from Portugal and Messi Argentina. It's like Messi was made to shine while Ronaldo was meant to work his way through.
Side note: Definitely think the world cup was rigged in Argentinas favor.click to expand
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