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From what I gather from our phone call last night. He has insecurities. He wants us to not see anyone else and wants me to act the same way however, he wants to say that we are friends. Its pretty weird. He kept saying what is good for "our relationship." I told him that once we become friends, I don't know if I want to go back because of the instability it shows when it wants to change how things are conducted. He got all upset. He told me that if he doesn't get a chance to get rid of his insecurities, it will have an effect on our future together and that I had him all wrong. He said that he doesn't want to get married and then have something come up to were he has insecurities or doubt. I still don't understand it. Does he want a relationship or does he want a friendship? I feel like he wants me to still act like we are in a relationship, but call it a friendship.
Yeap Lady_M, be mentally stable. Nope, not a turn on to a Cancer man. A DRAMA QUEEN is IN! LOL!
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yup...your terms. this is easy for me and krobe...we are leos...life not on our terms is....ummm...someone else's life!
Yeap, I agree. If I have to change my schedule to fit into YOUR life on YOUR terms, it will not happen. I have to MAKE room for you to be with me on MY terms. I think it is a fair deal considering i give space and I don't wrap my complete life and focus on just a man.
I would say just be independent and do YOU. Any man Cancer or not who can sense you have a life outside of "him", he wants in.
Yeap, I agree. If I have to change my schedule to fit into YOUR life on YOUR terms, it will not happen. I have to MAKE room for you to be with me on MY terms. I think it is a fair deal considering i give space and I don't wrap my complete life and focus on just a man.
I would say just be independent and do YOU. Any man Cancer or not who can sense you have a life outside of "him", he wants in.
* but you need to at least kiss the girl before you plunk down that kind of moula.
Agreed!
I think it really depends. If she is into you, she would love it. If she isn't into it, she'll be uncomfortable. All my Libra friends that I have talked to this about, myself included, said that if she isn't as into you yet you are in danger of overdoing and pushing her out the door. My too much is much less than everyone else's. I am pretty sure baby_sparrow would be on board this one and my roomie too.
Agreed!
I think it really depends. If she is into you, she would love it. If she isn't into it, she'll be uncomfortable. All my Libra friends that I have talked to this about, myself included, said that if she isn't as into you yet you are in danger of overdoing and pushing her out the door. My too much is much less than everyone else's. I am pretty sure baby_sparrow would be on board this one and my roomie too.
"As most of the last few posts have proven, he rarely leaves his wife. He indulges in his fantasy from time to time as long as the other woman allows and he chooses to go home to his wife no matter how "sad" that may be."
Pathfinder, I agree with this 150% and yes the other woman (fantasy girl) has to make a decision to be a #2 or the only one. Some women are fine with it. I am just not one of those women. Yes I also believe it is bad karma to be involved with someone else's husband. Being an ex wife I would hate to be in the scorp's wife position (the one I know and the one bull is speaking of).
The one I know still and especially as of late calls, leaves songs on my phone. Hate it! (Ironically this is what the current scorp I am actually dating does which I love.) He continually tells me he understands and respects who I am and that I can no longer be involved with him, it has been several months since we were involved. We did get very close and we had tons of fun together, so yes, I can relate to where bull is coming from. Like her scorp he will try and stick around, or give me a break when I snap on him, and then pop back up. Because they are good at heart, but have major problems, one being a cheater or desiring to be one. It is hard to keep out of contact.
I can honestly say that it is sometimes painful to ignore him the way I do because we were more friends than anything and being a scorp myself. I like to keep people close who I care about even exes, but he can't get the "just friends" thing and will act a damn fool if he knew I was dating soemone. I have told him lately I am and he would wish me luck and then ask personal questions that I would refuse to answer. It pisses me off and I will ignor him. They are sick when rejected. He will have things delivered to my house for my daughter and me. I send it back. He knows where my daughter goes to school and has made afterschool payments for her. That I would send back to him. It is kind of scary and psycho. I had to threaten him awhile ago and he hasn't pulled any stunts like that lately.
Just leaves me messages and emails about how sick he is without me in his life. Blah, blah, blah. All I can do is remind him he is a married man and I am actually dating someoene. They don't give up!
Pathfinder, I agree with this 150% and yes the other woman (fantasy girl) has to make a decision to be a #2 or the only one. Some women are fine with it. I am just not one of those women. Yes I also believe it is bad karma to be involved with someone else's husband. Being an ex wife I would hate to be in the scorp's wife position (the one I know and the one bull is speaking of).
The one I know still and especially as of late calls, leaves songs on my phone. Hate it! (Ironically this is what the current scorp I am actually dating does which I love.) He continually tells me he understands and respects who I am and that I can no longer be involved with him, it has been several months since we were involved. We did get very close and we had tons of fun together, so yes, I can relate to where bull is coming from. Like her scorp he will try and stick around, or give me a break when I snap on him, and then pop back up. Because they are good at heart, but have major problems, one being a cheater or desiring to be one. It is hard to keep out of contact.
I can honestly say that it is sometimes painful to ignore him the way I do because we were more friends than anything and being a scorp myself. I like to keep people close who I care about even exes, but he can't get the "just friends" thing and will act a damn fool if he knew I was dating soemone. I have told him lately I am and he would wish me luck and then ask personal questions that I would refuse to answer. It pisses me off and I will ignor him. They are sick when rejected. He will have things delivered to my house for my daughter and me. I send it back. He knows where my daughter goes to school and has made afterschool payments for her. That I would send back to him. It is kind of scary and psycho. I had to threaten him awhile ago and he hasn't pulled any stunts like that lately.
Just leaves me messages and emails about how sick he is without me in his life. Blah, blah, blah. All I can do is remind him he is a married man and I am actually dating someoene. They don't give up!
Yeap, the operative words. IF THE man cares about you. IF he is pushing and pulling away regularly saggirl, believe it or not your actions are causing him to pull away.
He may not be ready for a relationship with you right now. I really don't think another man has anything to do with it. If he really wanted to be with you, ANOTHER man would not bother him. He would do what he needed to do to show you that he wants to be with you.
Imacancer
What I mean by dating. If a man is not telling you and showing you with his actions that you are the only one he wants to be with in his life. You don't owe him a commitment. And any woman with a life would not give him or his sitution of pushing and pulling away a mental thought.
Saggirl,
The reason the man comes back around is to see what he can get out of the deal. Alot of men know women care about them so they play on their emotions. They get what they want out of the pull away deal. The man comes back, he gets feed and then he is off again.
In my own personal opinion, alot of women accept the push pull behavior and make up all kinds of excuses-going into shell, sulking etc. A man can really only feel love towards a woman when he is putting in work to get her.
I don't know any man on this earth who will admit to putting in work for a easy woman. All he has to do is call and set up a date with a sealed deal. Why would he call? Why would he chase? Why would he pursue? He will feel the next man can have you and your love just as easy.
He may not be ready for a relationship with you right now. I really don't think another man has anything to do with it. If he really wanted to be with you, ANOTHER man would not bother him. He would do what he needed to do to show you that he wants to be with you.
Imacancer
What I mean by dating. If a man is not telling you and showing you with his actions that you are the only one he wants to be with in his life. You don't owe him a commitment. And any woman with a life would not give him or his sitution of pushing and pulling away a mental thought.
Saggirl,
The reason the man comes back around is to see what he can get out of the deal. Alot of men know women care about them so they play on their emotions. They get what they want out of the pull away deal. The man comes back, he gets feed and then he is off again.
In my own personal opinion, alot of women accept the push pull behavior and make up all kinds of excuses-going into shell, sulking etc. A man can really only feel love towards a woman when he is putting in work to get her.
I don't know any man on this earth who will admit to putting in work for a easy woman. All he has to do is call and set up a date with a sealed deal. Why would he call? Why would he chase? Why would he pursue? He will feel the next man can have you and your love just as easy.
hee hee Kry that is all very true.
Oddly, a Sag girl told me Libra was her favorite sign because we keep her sane. In a crisis, we just keep our cool, calm everyone down, and take care of business. I had never looked at it like that before but it is true.
Oddly, a Sag girl told me Libra was her favorite sign because we keep her sane. In a crisis, we just keep our cool, calm everyone down, and take care of business. I had never looked at it like that before but it is true.
Bull couldn't have "just been platonic friends" with him. I don't buy that at all.
it's funny the attention Zen gets from Red_aries considering Zen's actually never spoken to Red_aries or acknowledged the existence of said avatar before... didn't think stalking was an Arian characteristic, mmmm?