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Posted by LostthoughtsBingo.Posted by Solo
@Astrobyn are you capable of admitting you were wrong that the US didn't launch the ATACMS and that it was Ukraine?
Hmm. Ive read your thread. You have a point. It's not mutually exclusive to Astrobyns. Let me take a crack out what she is implying and Russia is trying to say as well.
Missle systems have incredibly secure computer systems. It's not like a password to a home computer to operate. Requires technical know how and security keys on many levels to operate.They are intentionally complex.
Meaning digitally, those specific missle systems would require trained personal or be programed remotely. Which is enough of a involvment that Russia wants to point out as NATO&U.S being involved enough to be a joint operation rather then just Ukraine. So basically rather helping Ukraine defend themselves, it boarders on a proxy war. This is what Putin is trying say too eloquently to be understandable by most people. It's a kind of eleborate double speak that most willn't get without context. Context, that none of which is being told to the public.
He is also saying any military assets used in this way(too much input by another country to the point of a joint operation) is far game. And he will use hypersonic missile which can not be intercepted in response.
It's like they are playing political and military chess. If you play your rock, Ill play my rock. If you play your queen Ill play my queen.
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Posted by LostthoughtsYou'll have to forgive me for maintaining a healthy doze of skepticism with respect to the first two paragraphs since there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary but that is a whooooole other thread.Posted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by Astrobyn
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Gross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Begs: " 🥺Oh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it again🙏"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
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Wow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.
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I appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
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Yes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
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Good question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!
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Agreed. I'd like to point out the Agancies were doing there job what they were meant to how they where meant to during his administration.
He picked or whom ever picked for him picked very very well. It was back to the basics in a good way, these laws and regulations protected us from ourselves. Kept a lot of the big players in check. Which I'm sure made the lobbiest job much more difficult.
While trumps current picks are looking like a fox in then hen house. He doesn't have the sharpness to keeep his own people in check. This will be heavily relient on his senoir advisors and staff.click to expand
Posted by AstrobynBro literally will take any source that aligns with his warped view on things then call it fact. Some of his sources were likely made by crack heads in someone's basement, yet because it was worded in a way that coddled his world views he latches onto it like a leech, then vomits it out to the rest for the rest of the world to see. He's just young, and likely hasn't experienced anything real in his life. Hell I'm 34 and never experienced a world like my mom, dad, grandparents, or great grandparents did.Posted by SoloPosted by Astrobyn
See Puttin said it too.
https://x.com/Megatron_ron/status/1859673194199908426?t=HYVL6yxQWfqdUh5UpxURHQ&s=09
What did he say? He said "long range western weapons being used in the special military operation zone." He says that they can't use them without operators from manufacturing companies which is most likely wrong as I already went through with the weaponry before.
So, you believe the Russian government, but not your own. Weird. You don't trust your government because bad things have been done (every gov has done bad things) but then you cling to Russia's word. Weird.
Tbh I don't know why I'm bothering with you or anyone like you. You're all lost. You've already admitted you just want it all gone. You don't care about anything actually. You don't bother with any facts. It just fucking enrages me to watch people like yourself spew lies and it be viewed as equal to truth and equal to someone who actually goes and reads.
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I have a pretty good awareness of the kind of bullshit my government has done, so which lines up with our military having some kind of direct involvement in getting these missile into Russia.
idk what bullshit you are trying to project on to me. you don't know me, you don't understand me, you know thing about how I process information, on what foundations I base my point of view on.
But your the first on this forum to tell me who I am, and you make up shit about what i believe?
All you do is personally attack me when i don't agree with you. That's gay. Go read some more lies, it will make you feel better then talking to me.click to expand
Posted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by ArgusPosted by LostthoughtsPosted by Astrobyn
Given how Biden has escalated the war in Ukraine this week...
Is this man taking us into WWIII to punish all of us for taking away his Presidency? or are "they" just telling them what to do?
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Gross no. Escalation started with Russia. This was the western worlds and allies agreed response. Which is rather still hands off. Would you rather boots on the ground from foriegn countries in Ukraine like Russia had?
Begs: " 🥺Oh please russia please stop invading your nieghbors in a mondern world. We know we already let you anex part of a neighboring country, please don't do it again🙏"
As if Russia can act with impunity in this is ridiculous. Western society is helping Ukraine defend themselves for themselves.
Putin is a relic from the cold war era and still acts in that way. It's his personal golden years and what he believes russia shouldvreturn to for prosperity. My phrasing based on listening to his words and many many interviews of him.
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Wow thank you, that is a real source of "what's what" behind the curtains of what is actually going on. I happily stand corrected.
click to expand
I appreciate you taking your time to watch it with an open mind! There indeed is a whole lot more going on behind the scenes that general populace is either not being told or blatantly lied about.
The thing though is, most, if not all wars, are fought over resources (unsurprising) & this is one is no exception (amongst other things) which, if you do get a chance, I recommend watching the two previous videos posted above because I find it ties into it & bolsters what IAteMyGrandmothersMonkey said earlier as well.
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Yes true. Here is the kicker tho, does Biden know that?
People tend to forget, Presidents have a nose bleed it's a CEO level position. They only know what they are told, and completely dependent on thier staff and advisors. Which obviously one of those Advisors wasn't this guy.
This is also the main issue I have with Trump. Trump is trump easilylead by his ego, control what information he is given and how the info is presented, and you control him and the outcomes.
That is the power of the worker and back office staff. Why his policies could very well work, but his agency and staffing picks make me incredibly nervous.
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Good question! I genuinely don't belive he has a full grasp of his faculties any longer. Something general public has been repeatedly & blatantly lied about. I get it though! Its a flex in an attempt to paint certain picture to the world, but it's not like the rest of the world is blind either.
That being said, Biden didn't enter political race just yesterday though. If anything, he made it his carrier & thus was privy to a great deal of things & was cognizant of while... well... while he was cognizant. So yes, that poses somewhat scary question as to who really IS running the country.
Not that any president is fully in charge ( in no small part thanks to them being beholden to their donors among other factors) & indeed, great deal of 3 letter agencies are fighting for control & influence but that's neither ever nor there.
As for Trump, I'm not his supporters either. If anything, I had great many things to criticize during his past presidency. With that being said, economically speaking... short of a miracle or WWIII, US is in such deep fiscal shit creek I do not see us crawling out it without going through a devastating recession. To think we are paying back more in interest on servicing national debt than Pentagon's budget is something to ponder over.
With that said, I am bracing myself for an uncomfortably bumpy ride for at least the next decade!
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Agreed. I'd like to point out the Agancies were doing there job what they were meant to how they where meant to during his administration.
He picked or whom ever picked for him picked very very well. It was back to the basics in a good way, these laws and regulations protected us from ourselves. Kept a lot of the big players in check. Which I'm sure made the lobbiest job much more difficult.
While trumps current picks are looking like a fox in then hen house. He doesn't have the sharpness to keeep his own people in check. This will be heavily relient on his senoir advisors and staff.
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You'll have to forgive me for maintaining a healthy doze of skepticism with respect to the first two paragraphs since there is overwhelming evidence to the contrary but that is a whooooole other thread.
What I do know with certainty is they (politicians) & oligarchs alike belong to one big club and most of us aren't part of it! 🤷🏻♀️click to expand
Posted by ArgusOkay so you don't know how NATO works and that any one country doesn't speak for NATO as a unit. Understood.
@Solo
This is my last time addressing your lack of basic comprehension skills ass! Let me break it down for you so perhaps then you'll get it through your thick skull. Jeffrey never claimed nor aserted Bill Clinton signed anything. He simply stated there was an agreement which apparently a whole fuckin world is well aware of except you.
Baring that in mind, before you say anything about how the agreement is invalid becuase there was no signatories, does that then give Russia or China or Iran etc carte blanche to establish their bases in the vicinity of US borders? Oh, right, we have precedence for that. NO da fuck they would not which is why we had Cuba misle crisis. Which, in about of irony, is what i pointed out to you just the other day. So apperently there was no signatories to that agreement either, but Russia honored it!
Furthermore, should you bring Crimea into the equation (like you did during our last interaction during which, may I remind you, you hurled personal insults at me sense any provocation)... they had a referendum back in 2014 in which the residents overwhelmingly voted in favor of joining Russia. To which the US took an affront, but when Kososvo voted to split away from Serbia -which has been a part of for centuries (minus the brief stint during wwii when Italy invaded the region & annexed it to Albania)- NATO swooped in a bombed the shit out of Belgrade!
Serbia is a whole other discussion, however, what the example does, is perfectlyy highlight the hypocrisy of the US policy makers.
Additionally, it is exceptionally hypocritical of you to sit here & argue shit about Russia-Ukraine but when called out on Palestine- Israel bullshit, what's your response?! Exactly! You don't have time & energy to deal with that! Same excuse when I provided link after link, article after article pointing out lies and inconsistencies pertaining Russia-Ukraine, you came back with the same excuse as to how overwhelming it was & you weren't going to read it.
Bottom line, it's really reassuring to know how much more informed you are than Jeffrey Sachs or Saymour Hersh, or Aaron Mate or Chris Hedges (and the list goes on) most of whom are award winning, indipendant, journalists! Sure, I'll trust your judgment & the propaganda used to manufacture consent!
Posted by MyStarsShineThere are lotsPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
Oi shut up m8
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😆 I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.
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You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.
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Can we see a pic of you?click to expand
Posted by MyStarsShineThere are lotsPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
Oi shut up m8
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😆 I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.
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You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.
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Can we see a pic of you?click to expand
Posted by Jumpin_Jupiter🤣 just a trash talkin gemini as usualPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
Oi shut up m8
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😆 I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.
You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.
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Don't have to. I don't feel the need to. I don't owe nobody a thing. I like to keep private about everything in life. I'm low key and like to remain low key.click to expand
Posted by Walk_on_byI'll let you have your fun and think I'm trash talking. I'm not finna go back and forth about posting my guitar playing with you especially at a time like this while I'm watching rassling. That is childish. Just accept I'm private and don't have to post notta. Now how bout goodnight to ya and I still loves ya.Posted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_JupiterPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by Jumpin_Jupiter
Is that Biden's chart? No wonder he so soft. Scorpio by itself is weak.
Oi shut up m8
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😆 I see it look like I done start ruffling up a feather. Can't take a little dose of reality, uh. Das aight. Big Los still loves you.
You still wont post yourself playing guitar ya big wuss.
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Don't have to. I don't feel the need to. I don't owe nobody a thing. I like to keep private about everything in life. I'm low key and like to remain low key.
🤣 just a trash talkin gemini as usualclick to expand
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