One more shot!
"he gets out of the shower and .....all of a sudden.......I feel pressure on my face....I open my eyes to a bare ass directly on my face........"
lol, damn, he's giving you signs all over the board .. you got to love those Fish, eh? There's no guessing what we like, you just have to watch. Doesn't sound gross at all.
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You don't need fancy lingerie or role playing outfits, necessarily .. just SEXY bra and matching thong .. maybe some leather straps hanging around wouldn't hurt .. roles don't have to include certain clothes .. you could be his sex slave, that doesn't require much.
lol, damn, he's giving you signs all over the board .. you got to love those Fish, eh? There's no guessing what we like, you just have to watch. Doesn't sound gross at all.
< salad tosser
You don't need fancy lingerie or role playing outfits, necessarily .. just SEXY bra and matching thong .. maybe some leather straps hanging around wouldn't hurt .. roles don't have to include certain clothes .. you could be his sex slave, that doesn't require much.
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P-Angel, I agree with you that I am causing confusion in him. But, believe me, it's totally unintentional for I do value him and wouldn't want to hurt him in any way.
I think we clearly have a communication problem. I am not a direct person. I like to give hints and expect the others to get them. He seems to act in the same way. I think we are making assumptions about one another, but those assumptions are wrong in most cases, but we are so preoccupied with our own thoughts that we never check those assumptions with reality.
I know what I want. I want a relationship with this man. But, I don't want him to think that I'm desparate or needy or clingy. I am too proud... This causes problems when I start sending signals to him.
"Most people just walk away .. for fear of losing their own sense of pride and dignity. Just make sure you take care of yourself first."
This is exactly how I feel. And it complicates matters...
I think we clearly have a communication problem. I am not a direct person. I like to give hints and expect the others to get them. He seems to act in the same way. I think we are making assumptions about one another, but those assumptions are wrong in most cases, but we are so preoccupied with our own thoughts that we never check those assumptions with reality.
I know what I want. I want a relationship with this man. But, I don't want him to think that I'm desparate or needy or clingy. I am too proud... This causes problems when I start sending signals to him.
"Most people just walk away .. for fear of losing their own sense of pride and dignity. Just make sure you take care of yourself first."
This is exactly how I feel. And it complicates matters...
scopigoat, I don't enjoy misery at all, and that's why I tried to put an end to things.
Maybe you're right. Maybe we can't be friends. But I want him to be in my life in one way or the other. I enjoy having conversations with him. We talk about a lot of stuff that I can't talk with other people. Most of these things are impersonal, things like philosophy, movies, history, etc. It's the personal and, most important of all, the emotional stuff that we have trouble talking about...
I am so confused right now. I don't know what to do...
Maybe you're right. Maybe we can't be friends. But I want him to be in my life in one way or the other. I enjoy having conversations with him. We talk about a lot of stuff that I can't talk with other people. Most of these things are impersonal, things like philosophy, movies, history, etc. It's the personal and, most important of all, the emotional stuff that we have trouble talking about...
I am so confused right now. I don't know what to do...
Yeah, i?ll have to change because attracting Scorpios is NOT good for a li?l libra like me 
Hey Ya'll,
You know, just when I think I'm making progress in saving my money, I just end up being right where I started. I have not problem pulling in the funds, but keeping it is another whole story. Yesterday, at Papa Johns it was payday and at the end of the workday, I manage to make 80 something dollars in tips. When I went to deposit it into my Checkings account, the negative over-draft chopped down my $ 320.00 to $ 106.00. I got so angry with myself because, because I don't know how to train myself into being disciplined with my money. It was really hard when I was living with my Capricorn father, because when I was trying to discipline myself into not spending my money at all, he'll talk me into buying things I don't really want or he'll ask me to borrow cash. Each time the amount he wants to borrow goes up another $ 50.00. As a result, I now suck at saving money. Do any of you have any advice on that?
Also, another thing I'm worried about is what I've read about Pisces guys, because I'm one. It's the part about being hard to pin down. I haven't been in a serious relationship ever because for so long I've been wrestling with my sexual identity. Now that the wrestling is over, I'm at peace with myself. Dating? I don't know. I'm just afraid of being that guy who'll hurt someone just as they are emotionally vulnerable to me. My friend Stephanie is making it seem as if my friend, Jesse cares for me more than I may know. Honestly, I enjoy my friendship with him because he's not threatened by my sexuality. Sure he's a sweet and thoughful guy, but that's just Jesse. (He's "Mr. Jovial".)I'm sure he's like that with everyone. I don't even take him seriously in a romantic sense, so it's easy to be friends. Basically, I'm just not trying to hear my friends taking about how he possibly may have a crush on me. That could ruin a beautiful friendship. Well, Take Care you all. Let Me know something. -Dreamy-Eyez, out-
You know, just when I think I'm making progress in saving my money, I just end up being right where I started. I have not problem pulling in the funds, but keeping it is another whole story. Yesterday, at Papa Johns it was payday and at the end of the workday, I manage to make 80 something dollars in tips. When I went to deposit it into my Checkings account, the negative over-draft chopped down my $ 320.00 to $ 106.00. I got so angry with myself because, because I don't know how to train myself into being disciplined with my money. It was really hard when I was living with my Capricorn father, because when I was trying to discipline myself into not spending my money at all, he'll talk me into buying things I don't really want or he'll ask me to borrow cash. Each time the amount he wants to borrow goes up another $ 50.00. As a result, I now suck at saving money. Do any of you have any advice on that?
Also, another thing I'm worried about is what I've read about Pisces guys, because I'm one. It's the part about being hard to pin down. I haven't been in a serious relationship ever because for so long I've been wrestling with my sexual identity. Now that the wrestling is over, I'm at peace with myself. Dating? I don't know. I'm just afraid of being that guy who'll hurt someone just as they are emotionally vulnerable to me. My friend Stephanie is making it seem as if my friend, Jesse cares for me more than I may know. Honestly, I enjoy my friendship with him because he's not threatened by my sexuality. Sure he's a sweet and thoughful guy, but that's just Jesse. (He's "Mr. Jovial".)I'm sure he's like that with everyone. I don't even take him seriously in a romantic sense, so it's easy to be friends. Basically, I'm just not trying to hear my friends taking about how he possibly may have a crush on me. That could ruin a beautiful friendship. Well, Take Care you all. Let Me know something. -Dreamy-Eyez, out-
"But, believe me, it's totally unintentional for I do value him and wouldn't want to hurt him in any way."
I know .. I was just trying to explain that because the Virgo gets confused over what "signals" mean .. that this causes them to be cold one minute, friendly the next, MIA out of nowhere, flirty .. they don't have the capability to process with the effecientcy as others do as to exactly what something means when it comes to romantic interaction .. the whole capture "game" that must be played in order to secure.
Game sounds like a bad word .. but, in reality, that's exactly what it is .. I bend this way, you bend that way .. I comprimise here, you comprimise there .. and they just fall short on this and because they are such perfectionist .. this confuses them because they can't understand why they are so right-on with everything else in their life.
That IS what they think about when they go MIA in a relationship, btw .. everything seems so simple to compute, it has it's place, there's order .. except the other person in a relationship is unpredictable, there's chaos in the mind, uncertainty .. this jambs up their mental processing .. usually what a person gets back is a vague response, a limmerick, or complete evasion .. it's not that they aren't thinking about you, it's that they don't know how to respond accordingly because they can't find logic in the illogical .. feelings are illogical .. even thier own.
Anyway, I know you care about him .. I'm just trying to give you some insight as to how they operate in a relationship and WHY they do some of the odd things they do.
He gives you mixed signals because he can only do what he "thinks" you require, and since you are human, requirements change .. he doesn't know how to change with it, without deep analysis.
I know .. I was just trying to explain that because the Virgo gets confused over what "signals" mean .. that this causes them to be cold one minute, friendly the next, MIA out of nowhere, flirty .. they don't have the capability to process with the effecientcy as others do as to exactly what something means when it comes to romantic interaction .. the whole capture "game" that must be played in order to secure.
Game sounds like a bad word .. but, in reality, that's exactly what it is .. I bend this way, you bend that way .. I comprimise here, you comprimise there .. and they just fall short on this and because they are such perfectionist .. this confuses them because they can't understand why they are so right-on with everything else in their life.
That IS what they think about when they go MIA in a relationship, btw .. everything seems so simple to compute, it has it's place, there's order .. except the other person in a relationship is unpredictable, there's chaos in the mind, uncertainty .. this jambs up their mental processing .. usually what a person gets back is a vague response, a limmerick, or complete evasion .. it's not that they aren't thinking about you, it's that they don't know how to respond accordingly because they can't find logic in the illogical .. feelings are illogical .. even thier own.
Anyway, I know you care about him .. I'm just trying to give you some insight as to how they operate in a relationship and WHY they do some of the odd things they do.
He gives you mixed signals because he can only do what he "thinks" you require, and since you are human, requirements change .. he doesn't know how to change with it, without deep analysis.
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Thank you for the insight P-Angel. I really appreciate it.
What do you think my next move should be? Just wait and see or do something?
What do you think my next move should be? Just wait and see or do something?
"by co-operative,I guess you mean the Cappy submitting"
i wont deny it... there are moments that call for that. quite happily
but come on... can even a scorpio deny the joy of being taken every once in a while? hehe... iiiiiiii know the answer... lol especially one with a splash of libra?? 
bluestar... i know exactly what you mean. i've been the cap in this pairing and I'm incredibly guilty of this, but i also quickly stepped down when i became aware of what i was doing and how it was affecting everything. we caps cant help but want to do whats best. and you can look at it as that certain annoying 'tude, but give us some credit... it's because our hearts are all in it and we just want to see success. yes, it can be dangerously blinding, but we're not always aware... and it doesnt come from some superiority complex, just a strong desire.
and i agree... two evolved anything should have the sense to make differences work to advantage rather than the other way around.
i wont deny it... there are moments that call for that. quite happily
but come on... can even a scorpio deny the joy of being taken every once in a while? hehe... iiiiiiii know the answer... lol especially one with a splash of libra?? bluestar... i know exactly what you mean. i've been the cap in this pairing and I'm incredibly guilty of this, but i also quickly stepped down when i became aware of what i was doing and how it was affecting everything. we caps cant help but want to do whats best. and you can look at it as that certain annoying 'tude, but give us some credit... it's because our hearts are all in it and we just want to see success. yes, it can be dangerously blinding, but we're not always aware... and it doesnt come from some superiority complex, just a strong desire.
and i agree... two evolved anything should have the sense to make differences work to advantage rather than the other way around.
FFV .. I know it's hard, for I can be indirect too .. wanting to give hints.
But, seriously .. you have to find a way to come to terms with being open and direct without worrying about respect. In fact, the Virgo works the complete opposite than that .. they respect the person who WILL be direct with them .. what you're fearing is all within yourself, for he won't think that way of you. It's the women who sit back and wait for months, years, even on them, are the ones who they likely lose respect for because this suggests to them that the woman isn't sure enough within herself what she wants. You say you know what you want, and I don't doubt that .. but, he may be doubting it because you aren't forthcoming with what you feel.
Maybe try writing it down. Make yourself a list of everything you feel the two of you need to overcome, address, comprimise on, whatever you think is necessary in order for this relationship to become a better and happier one. Then, you will have a guide to follow, one you wrote yourself .. he's not going to think you're desperate if you approach him .. he will, however, likely think you're desperate if you hang back in the shadows for months on end, waiting for him to decide .. now, that's desperation because it indicates to him that you would believe that you can't get any better than him.
In his eyes .. everybody is better than him. Just as critical as they are with other people, they are moreso with themselves. For every woman who continues to wait for an unreasonable amount of time for a male Virgo is only serving to lose him because sine he believes that he is the worst of the crop .. then the woman must be desperate.
Trust me .. I know that I spout off at the mouth alot .. but, I've been living with a Virgo for 25 years .. they respect directness and honesty, FFV.
But, seriously .. you have to find a way to come to terms with being open and direct without worrying about respect. In fact, the Virgo works the complete opposite than that .. they respect the person who WILL be direct with them .. what you're fearing is all within yourself, for he won't think that way of you. It's the women who sit back and wait for months, years, even on them, are the ones who they likely lose respect for because this suggests to them that the woman isn't sure enough within herself what she wants. You say you know what you want, and I don't doubt that .. but, he may be doubting it because you aren't forthcoming with what you feel.
Maybe try writing it down. Make yourself a list of everything you feel the two of you need to overcome, address, comprimise on, whatever you think is necessary in order for this relationship to become a better and happier one. Then, you will have a guide to follow, one you wrote yourself .. he's not going to think you're desperate if you approach him .. he will, however, likely think you're desperate if you hang back in the shadows for months on end, waiting for him to decide .. now, that's desperation because it indicates to him that you would believe that you can't get any better than him.
In his eyes .. everybody is better than him. Just as critical as they are with other people, they are moreso with themselves. For every woman who continues to wait for an unreasonable amount of time for a male Virgo is only serving to lose him because sine he believes that he is the worst of the crop .. then the woman must be desperate.
Trust me .. I know that I spout off at the mouth alot .. but, I've been living with a Virgo for 25 years .. they respect directness and honesty, FFV.
Yeah, im an airy Libra!!
The attraction is instant every time...it just never seems to last....!!
The attraction is instant every time...it just never seems to last....!!