Are the gods punishing us?
This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by Deedee86 on Friday, September 8, 2017 and has 44 replies.
Tornadoes, floods, fires, hurricanes and now an earthquake?
It's not just America so save the political comments. Mexico just got hit with an 8.5 earthquake. Saint Maarten is French and Dutch.
It's not just America so save the political comments. Mexico just got hit with an 8.5 earthquake. Saint Maarten is French and Dutch.
Saturn in Sagittarius... and it will move in to Capricorn. I would not say God but a karmatic back lash. I think no one even still understand how much this's will affect the US.
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Posted by EvilHare24 hour news cycle looking for ratings.
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
Just got out of a meeting and the big boss said
that our Texas locations said the news was
pretty accurate.
Did Texas folks find that to be true?
In March, we had the worst snowstorm I remember. Cars were lost on the road for days. I didn't think too much of it because we get snow. I was concerned a couple months ago when my area had several tornadoes which is rare, then the city next to me had a huge flood which has never happened.....ever! Not to the extent of Houston but cars on the hiway were literally underwater for a few hours. Now, we see the devastation in Texas, the fires out west, Irma, the earthquake, Jose is looking
They got our attention. I'm listening. What can we do to fix the karma of the world?
They got our attention. I'm listening. What can we do to fix the karma of the world?
Posted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
I feel on edge. For a few months after 9/11 I had the same feeling. I actually packed a suitcase with food, documents and cash and kept it with the dog and cat carriers by the door. I had just one kid at the time but he was an infant.
I'm contemplating doing that again. Maybe I'm being over dramatic but it's just me responsible for us.
I'm contemplating doing that again. Maybe I'm being over dramatic but it's just me responsible for us.
Posted by ShadowcatPosted by Deedee86Posted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
Do you believe in climate change?click to expand
I'm not in denial
Posted by Deedee86Yeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.click to expand
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Posted by Deedee86God has a capital "G" as all others are lower case; no ONE is above God. It's man. Global warming, smog, experimental bombs going off test sites, factories, etc., etc, etc. God doesn't do that to the world; read up on the Book of Revelation and/or remember God's covenant with man, "He will not destroy the world with waters again". Thus he sends us his rainbow.
Tornadoes, floods, fires, hurricanes and now an earthquake?
It's not just America so save the political comments. Mexico just got hit with an 8.5 earthquake. Saint Maarten is French and Dutch.
cyber hugs! Love,
Eva
Posted by blvckphaseAmen - we are the aliens here - greedy locusts - sucking every bit of life out of this beautiful place -Posted by Chance_12I couldn't agree more.. And this is why I have always had a strong distaste for humanity.. We think the whole world is ours.. we don't know how to share it with the other beings or respect the environment that is meant to sustain us ALL, not just humans. But there's too many of us.. and all we seem to care about is creating more crap for our convenience no matter how it effects the environment and the other beings who share it.. I don't see it getting any better unfortunately.Posted by blvckphaseIt's the new normal. The hallmark of climate change isn't noticeable temperature increases (although that is happening too), it's weather extremes...and despite some not taking it seriously enough or not believing it altogether, it's actually happening at a more accelerated rate than even scientists have predicted.
Mother Natures payback.. We deserve it for all we have done to her.
The dumping of carbon into the atmosphere not only heats up the oceans but makes them more acidic as well. The result is monster storms like Katrina, Harvey, and Irma.
For example, in Vermont where I'm from, we've had two hurricane events in the last 7 years. Hurricanes are almost unheard of in that area. Before that, something similar happened in 1930. In Colorado, the wildfire season has increased exponentially as the 10 biggest wildfires in state history have occurred since 2012.
Short term profit for long term calamity isn't something we can afford to backload anymore.click to expand
Amen - we are the aliens here - greedy locusts - sucking every bit of life out of this beautiful place -
I couldn't agree more.. And this is why I have always had a strong distaste for humanity.. We think the whole world is ours.. we don't know how to share it with the other beings or respect the environment that is meant to sustain us ALL, not just humans. But there's too many of us.. and all we seem to care about is creating more crap for our convenience no matter how it effects the environment and the other beings who share it.. I don't see it getting any better unfortunately.
Damn straight girl! Power to Mother Nature.
So many do not respect her and do not give her the credit she is due. Whatever Superior being made this planet or however it came about - it was always everything we ever needed and nothing more. We are, in essence, destroying ourselves.
Posted by ShadowcatPosted by Deedee86Posted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
Do you believe in climate change?click to expand
This rant isn't directed to anyone specifically
I don't see how people still don't at this point. Scientists have been warning about this for decades now. Yet the hundreds of studies that show its an actual thing at this point isn't enough to bring people into reality.
If you don't believe this go watch time-laps videos of deforestation around the world. Get and idea of how much humans take, so much it can be seen and noticed by the ISS. Then go watch videos on landfills and polluted water. You think your trash just magically disappear's each week? And people actually think these changes that become massive over long periods of time don't effect the earth?
If living matter start messing up the environment on a mass scale the earth will eventually react, just like any other lifeform on this planet. If I was to get an infection on by body I would react to it, and try to clean it by any means possible. It's a common trait of anything living.
It's not God, Gods, or any other type of spiritual entity. I'm not disproving these types of entity's, but that's alway been a cop out for humans since the dawn of time to blame something other then themselves. It's our own lack of care, intelligence, and deep denial that will try to force us into extinction.
Dont worry. White man will make spaceship and we will plunder something new in a few decades. gg wp
Posted by Dead_KermitAn ice age is a real possibility imo. I don't have any actual fact to back up an ice age happening due to overpopulation and the destruction of the earth thb. We know the earth had 1 for sure. We just don't know if it was from dinosaurs destroying more then the earth could provide, an impact from a meteor, or whatever else deep space can throw at us. I do believe if the earth suffers a great deal of destruction it will eventually react to it and attempt to rejuvenate itself.Posted by SoulQuestion is if we have such big impact on things indeed. Climate change always existed and there has been more than one ice age before. In terms of that we are long overdue after a fairly stable period.Posted by ShadowcatPosted by Deedee86Posted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
Do you believe in climate change?
This rant isn't directed to anyone specifically
I don't see how people still don't at this point. Scientists have been warning about this for decades now. Yet the hundreds of studies that show its an actual thing at this point isn't enough to bring people into reality.
If you don't believe this go watch time-laps videos of deforestation around the world. Get and idea of how much humans take, so much it can be seen and noticed by the ISS. Then go watch videos on landfills and polluted water. You think your trash just magically disappear's each week? And people actually think these changes that become massive over long periods of time don't effect the earth?
If living matter start messing up the environment on a mass scale the earth will eventually react, just like any other lifeform on this planet. If I was to get an infection on by body I would react to it, and try to clean it by any means possible. It's a common trait of anything living.
It's not God, Gods, or any other type of spiritual entity. I'm not disproving these types of entity's, but that's alway been a cop out for humans since the dawn of time to blame something other then themselves. It's our own lack of care, intelligence, and deep denial that will try to force us into extinction.click to expand
Posted by tizianiDuring the storms, yes.Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Deedee86Yeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Did you stay in FL?click to expand
Posted by tizianiI'm staying now, too.Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Deedee86Yeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Did you stay in FL?click to expand
totally !
She is the superior being.. at least to me. Mother Nature has always been my "God".. She is the closest thing to God any of us will ever physically see. She strives to provide for us and sustain for us no matter how shitty we treat her.. that's God before your very eyes.
Posted by tizianiPosted by MontgomeryPosted by tizianiI'm staying now, too.Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Deedee86Yeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Did you stay in FL?
All right, I trust you know what you're doing.click to expand
I'm not too far from Georgia, relatively speaking.
And the ocean is not a threat where I am-- river
is close but that's a little different I think.
My family is close and I'm doing what they do.
is this the new leading theory among conservatives?
Posted by hydorah
is this the new leading theory among conservatives?
I don't know. We would have to find some and ask
Posted by MontgomeryPlease stay safe Monty!Posted by tizianiI'm staying now, too.Posted by MontgomeryPosted by Deedee86Yeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Did you stay in FL?click to expand
Posted by justagirlI will... thanks, jag.Posted by MontgomeryPlease stay safe Monty!Posted by tizianiI'm staying now, too.Posted by MontgomeryPosted by OhYeah I've been here mostly my whole life-- in allPosted by EvilHare
No.
These things have always happened.
We just didn't have a 24 hour news cycle and the real time communication capability we have today.
I gotta disagree. Just in my area alone we have had weather events that rarely occur. 4 separate tornadoes touched down in one month. Maybe we see one every few years and they rarely touch down.
The city next to me had a 100 year flood. Nobody had flood insurance because it's not in a flood zone.
They were not devastating like what we see on the news but there was quite a bit of damage.
that time, we got Katrina and only some people
were affected by Matthew.
So I'm also wondering etc.
Did you stay in FL?click to expand
❤
Posted by Deedee86I had been always understanding to having crap going for us here in USA...because we are IT and everyone hates us for being IT and it's kind of...ok! We can deal with crap...
Tornadoes, floods, fires, hurricanes and now an earthquake?
It's not just America so save the political comments. Mexico just got hit with an 8.5 earthquake. Saint Maarten is French and Dutch.
But when I hear France, Germany, India...all these insignificant places - I go like WHY?
What do these matter that they get hit?
Right? Who cares about those small or poor or...lets get Mongolia! ????
Good question, I've wondered the same thing. Nothing is coincidence.
This is worrying ??
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollRelatively speaking, not very long at all.Posted by tizianiI've been looking it up and the Central England Temperature has been recorded since 1659. The first attempt at global weather recording was atound 1837 by the International Meteorological Organisation.Posted by AliensusedourbogrollI don't know. Hand drawn records must go a long time back. I only know computing changed things in the 1950s and 60s.
When did we start keeping weather records?click to expand
Good point.
There was the dark moon+éclipse, Mercury retro, the full moon!!! A few days ago....
And since about a week or more, and until around the 22nd of September, Mars conjunct Mercury, opposite Neptune...so a lot of mental anger in the air, contradicting the dream world...turning into illusions...idk...smth like that. Itls not too good. Squares to Uranus also, sudden shocks.
And since about a week or more, and until around the 22nd of September, Mars conjunct Mercury, opposite Neptune...so a lot of mental anger in the air, contradicting the dream world...turning into illusions...idk...smth like that. Itls not too good. Squares to Uranus also, sudden shocks.
Earth is headed into a mini ice age, due to solar activity diminishing (Sun has it's own cycle), due to fluctuations in the 23 degree tilt (which governs at what angle sunlight hits and gets reflected off the surface), due to fluctuations in the orbit around the Sun distance (going towards maximum)
These are all natural events it just happens that they will all converge on each other and reinforce each other's effects creating this mini ice age.
Human input in all of this is mostly the carbon dioxide emissions, which are the main reason for global warming. Throughout the ages the carbon in the air (this is measured by drilling through ice-taking samples from the past) has been steady but now it has almost the double value of this long time average (timescale roughly under a million years). We have been kinda lucky with the fact that oceans trap a lot of this heat, but that has it's own consequences to which i will come below.
The silver lining is, we'd be fucked either way but i prefer hurricanes and tornadoes and tsunamis to a full blown glacial ice age. You can go back after hurricanes and rebuild, can't do much on a one km thick sheet of ice apart from running to overpopulated Africa (for Europeans, 'muricans would run to Mexico and lower).
God will punish you (us) when the Yellowstone caldera pops. That should be closer to hell on earth as this is. Much closer.
A wildcard is also the time at which the oceans get so warm, the ice that traps methane gas gets melted and all that methane escapes in the atmosphere. Inhaling rotten eggs anyone?
If these two both happen at the same time (a large chance that the heat from the supervulcano eruption will trigger the release of methane eventually) we are truly fucked. Now it's eazy peazy.
Just some thought on relativity.
These are all natural events it just happens that they will all converge on each other and reinforce each other's effects creating this mini ice age.
Human input in all of this is mostly the carbon dioxide emissions, which are the main reason for global warming. Throughout the ages the carbon in the air (this is measured by drilling through ice-taking samples from the past) has been steady but now it has almost the double value of this long time average (timescale roughly under a million years). We have been kinda lucky with the fact that oceans trap a lot of this heat, but that has it's own consequences to which i will come below.
The silver lining is, we'd be fucked either way but i prefer hurricanes and tornadoes and tsunamis to a full blown glacial ice age. You can go back after hurricanes and rebuild, can't do much on a one km thick sheet of ice apart from running to overpopulated Africa (for Europeans, 'muricans would run to Mexico and lower).
God will punish you (us) when the Yellowstone caldera pops. That should be closer to hell on earth as this is. Much closer.
A wildcard is also the time at which the oceans get so warm, the ice that traps methane gas gets melted and all that methane escapes in the atmosphere. Inhaling rotten eggs anyone?
If these two both happen at the same time (a large chance that the heat from the supervulcano eruption will trigger the release of methane eventually) we are truly fucked. Now it's eazy peazy.
Just some thought on relativity.
Mother nature has
her moods, as we.
She can be peace.
She can be violent.
Happy sunshine or
raging disasters...
Her choice of mood.
her moods, as we.
She can be peace.
She can be violent.
Happy sunshine or
raging disasters...
Her choice of mood.
Posted by xghyDejavu of what?Posted by Mr_PinchyI doubt the ice age. The amount of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases would be the best lead to our possible end.
Earth is headed into a mini ice age, due to solar activity diminishing (Sun has it's own cycle), due to fluctuations in the 23 degree tilt (which governs at what angle sunlight hits and gets reflected off the surface), due to fluctuations in the orbit around the Sun distance (going towards maximum)
These are all natural events it just happens that they will all converge on each other and reinforce each other's effects creating this mini ice age.
Human input in all of this is mostly the carbon dioxide emissions, which are the main reason for global warming. Throughout the ages the carbon in the air (this is measured by drilling through ice-taking samples from the past) has been steady but now it has almost the double value of this long time average (timescale roughly under a million years). We have been kinda lucky with the fact that oceans trap a lot of this heat, but that has it's own consequences to which i will come below.
The silver lining is, we'd be fucked either way but i prefer hurricanes and tornadoes and tsunamis to a full blown glacial ice age. You can go back after hurricanes and rebuild, can't do much on a one km thick sheet of ice apart from running to overpopulated Africa (for Europeans, 'muricans would run to Mexico and lower).
God will punish you (us) when the Yellowstone caldera pops. That should be closer to hell on earth as this is. Much closer.
A wildcard is also the time at which the oceans get so warm, the ice that traps methane gas gets melted and all that methane escapes in the atmosphere. Inhaling rotten eggs anyone?
If these two both happen at the same time (a large chance that the heat from the supervulcano eruption will trigger the release of methane eventually) we are truly fucked. Now it's eazy peazy.
Just some thought on relativity.
Slow improvements have been made though. Hopefully it catches up.
Im having a deja vu rn.click to expand
Posted by RindarooSo you are saying we could had change ANYTHING weather related? How? If we shared and say please and thank you and think before we vote? HOW?
Well Mother Nature gave Oregon a breather yesterday & gave us rain
Well anyway there have always been times like this - some worse than others. Mother Nature screams when she's not happy. Maybe we should pay attention..
What is Nature trying to tell us except that it's Nature???
I am amazed to read all this bullcrap!
Posted by EvilHareWhen you smart - you can pass for sexy
Interesting fact:
NOAA has two different hurricane climate models.
One shows that a warmer Atlantic will increase winds aloft and actually decrease the number of hurricanes overall as wind shear breaks them apart before they can form.
A second model shows an increase in the intensity of hurricanes trending towards more rain/flooding effects and less wind related effects.
So regardless of which side of the debate you're on, there's a study to validate your opinion.
But let's look at these objectively and in the context of both Harvey and Irma (and hopefully NOT Jose):
Harvey did it's damage with rain and flooding. Irma, while a Cat 5, actually has a very compact but intense core (Puerto Rico didn't get hurricane force winds until the eye wall was about 60 miles out). They match the increased intensity model.
The US hasn't been hit by a major hurricane in about a decade. That matches the overall decrease model.
Posted by bricklemark
There was the dark moon+éclipse, Mercury retro, the full moon!!! A few days ago....
And since about a week or more, and until around the 22nd of September, Mars conjunct Mercury, opposite Neptune...so a lot of mental anger in the air, contradicting the dream world...turning into illusions...idk...smth like that. Itls not too good. Squares to Uranus also, sudden shocks.
Mental anger in the air. I wonder if this affects the air signs.
Posted by RindarooOh! Paleze...Posted by GemitatiJust taking better care of the earth. The planet will take care of itself by adjusting, we just might not like the answers. But in the case of fires, poor forest management makes things worse. Having resources to fight fires is a better situation than the current one.Posted by RindarooSo you are saying we could had change ANYTHING weather related? How? If we shared and say please and thank you and think before we vote? HOW?
Well Mother Nature gave Oregon a breather yesterday & gave us rain
Well anyway there have always been times like this - some worse than others. Mother Nature screams when she's not happy. Maybe we should pay attention..
What is Nature trying to tell us except that it's Nature???
I am amazed to read all this bullcrap!click to expand
Throw virgins in volcano?
God takes care of the Earth!
Read @EvilHare...sometimes he makes sense...when he isn't beered up to an eye brows!
Posted by GoldenRatioThis.
... stop living in fear of the world ending (they want that) because fearful people are the easiest to control.
Ever wonder why the news is so sensational?
What he said ^^ is a huge part of it.
I think so. I think the end of the world is near
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If by "gods" you mean "global warming" then yes.
Posted by rockyroadicecream
If by "gods" you mean "global warming" then yes.
I kept gods as generic as possible to be all inclusive.
Posted by xBruceCampbellxPosted by Montgomery+ If it's all vanilla, they can't make money off it either. News is business, big business, these days.Posted by GoldenRatioThis.
... stop living in fear of the world ending (they want that) because fearful people are the easiest to control.
Ever wonder why the news is so sensational?
What he said ^^ is a huge part of it.click to expand
One minute 19 seconds.
Posted by rockyroadicecreamNah, she meant Cthulhu.
If by "gods" you mean "global warming" then yes.
Posted by AliensusedourbogrollWHAT?Posted by MontgomeryWhy have I never heard of this movie?!Posted by xBruceCampbellxPosted by Montgomery+ If it's all vanilla, they can't make money off it either. News is business, big business, these days.Posted by GoldenRatioThis.
... stop living in fear of the world ending (they want that) because fearful people are the easiest to control.
Ever wonder why the news is so sensational?
What he said ^^ is a huge part of it.
One minute 19 seconds.
click to expand
Time Bandits... go watch, now, my friend. o.O
Your god huh?- 
these events certainly arent anything new. however i do believe humanity has made a significant impact on the speed of the course... thanks for the interesting HAARP video! i think with overpopulation and pollution, the mass production of NEW items instead of refurbishing or reusing things... the waste we as a race put out is deplorable. tech waste is building up now too which concerns me... i remember worrying about things like this when i was a kid... id think... if we keep burying dead bodies, we're gonna run out of spots and be aaaaaall cemetaries as far as the eye can see... and where does all the trash go since there's SO MUCH? and this was 20 years ago. we haven't pushed recycling and awareness as much as we should have and now we are trying to instill new behaviors in people at the last minute. sure it will help but we already made this bed a while ago... there is simply too much right now. i think the world is just trying to find a balance. i hate that so many people are experiencing tragedy through this but it's necessary in a way. out of the ashes, new life will grow...
Posted by GoldenRatioYes! Me too. But that's a slippery slope right there, it's almost like we are so bored of ourselves and/or so tired of our own b.s, we can't wait to meet other peoplealiens :/
I'm just waiting for ET contact already.
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