Do People Really Change...
This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by dogsbody on Friday, November 5, 2010 and has 37 replies.
I think many people attempt to change their habits or behaviour but at the end of the day, you are who you are....
So no, I dont think that people really change....
So no, I dont think that people really change....
Posted by dogsbody
I think many people attempt to change their habits or behaviour but at the end of the day, you are who you are....
So no, I dont think that people really change....
Since when you start the process called ???thinking?? do Australians racist like you have any brain to use..??
Of coerce everything changes ???for better or worst doesn??t really matter?? do you still sleep in you cradle..?? (if you had any)??_
Of coerce=Of course
Things make you change, it doesn't come from willpower.
question is whether or not do one change...its whether or not if one "fundamentally' changes...
i personally think in general people change whether for better or worse.
i personally think in general people change whether for better or worse.
Nope.
How can you even think that way Dog look how much Obama changed the U.S.A. for the better.
HAHAHAHAHA I crack myself up.
HAHAHAHAHA I crack myself up.
Sure they do. I have.
Most people change when they HAVE to...when their backs are up against the wall. Then they'll change.
Most people change when they HAVE to...when their backs are up against the wall. Then they'll change.
Posted by Pesca2
i agree with mr. crabby on this one. incidents change you.
the more tragic something is, the more impact it will have, the more you will most likely change (even if it is only a point of view and not a habit.
Yes, I meant that situations and events make you change, or evolve, not "things". I really shouldn't start drinking so early.
It's not something you set in motion, it's a process that gets triggered by what happens in your life. For some people, it can be dramatic. It might even save you.
Lots of vodka. :/
You touch a hot stove you do it only once.
I think we are constantly in motion. Who we are 5 minutes ago, is not who we are now. We are constantly growing, learning, changing, and evolving.
Posted by Pesca2
vodka, ginger beer and lime....
No drinks, drinks are for girls.
Our actions change because we learn different ways to handle certain situations, through trial and error, however, our reactions are emotional responses that aren't pre-meditated, we don't, or more accurately, we cannot ..... act out our reactions.
How you emotionally 'react' to any given situation is exactly the same as how you learned to emotionally react to them during your formative years.
Example: Someone you really care about could tell you to fuck off ... your immediate reaction will be to tell them to fuck off right back ..... but, because this automatic reaction has caused you to lose friends in the past, you've learned to swallow your pride and suck up.
You've changed on how you handle yourself once you've thought about how you should ACT .... but, your initial emotional REACTIONS will be as they were since you were 6 years old, when you learned HOW to process information.
How you emotionally 'react' to any given situation is exactly the same as how you learned to emotionally react to them during your formative years.
Example: Someone you really care about could tell you to fuck off ... your immediate reaction will be to tell them to fuck off right back ..... but, because this automatic reaction has caused you to lose friends in the past, you've learned to swallow your pride and suck up.
You've changed on how you handle yourself once you've thought about how you should ACT .... but, your initial emotional REACTIONS will be as they were since you were 6 years old, when you learned HOW to process information.
Q Tip - dont assume that because i live in Australia, that im "Australian"
Im from James Tate Territory, I emigrated to Australia 10yrs ago, and its a fantastic country full of great people.
Posted by dogsbody
Q Tip - dont assume that because i live in Australia, that im "Australian"
Im from James Tate Territory, I emigrated to Australia 10yrs ago, and its a fantastic country full of great people.
Ohh, you are immigrant but you are also against immigration..!
Double standard at % 200 ??_.What a gee what guy..!
Posted by P-Angel
Our actions change because we learn different ways to handle certain situations, through trial and error, however, our reactions are emotional responses that aren't pre-meditated, we don't, or more accurately, we cannot ..... act out our reactions.
How you emotionally 'react' to any given situation is exactly the same as how you learned to emotionally react to them during your formative years.
Example: Someone you really care about could tell you to fuck off ... your immediate reaction will be to tell them to fuck off right back ..... but, because this automatic reaction has caused you to lose friends in the past, you've learned to swallow your pride and suck up.
You've changed on how you handle yourself once you've thought about how you should ACT .... but, your initial emotional REACTIONS will be as they were since you were 6 years old, when you learned HOW to process information.
Yup.
Im not against immigration....
Anyone who goes to another country in search of a better life, and is prepared to work hard to get it has my total admiration....
What I "am" against is those who do move to another country and try to inflict their religion and customs on society in that country.....some that may be contrary to the laws of their adopted country, they when they find out its not accepted, they cry "Racism"
You sound like you'd be one of those people , OMG im in England and nobody speaks "Norwegian" yeah, i imagine "Just The Type"
Anyone who goes to another country in search of a better life, and is prepared to work hard to get it has my total admiration....
What I "am" against is those who do move to another country and try to inflict their religion and customs on society in that country.....some that may be contrary to the laws of their adopted country, they when they find out its not accepted, they cry "Racism"
You sound like you'd be one of those people , OMG im in England and nobody speaks "Norwegian" yeah, i imagine "Just The Type"
Pigeonpie - I am so glad I emigrated , actually I emigrated to New Zealand, lived there for 6yrs then came over to Melbourne - what a fantastic city, its got everything
Best move I ever made......
Best move I ever made......
Australia is a suburb of Wales. Q you ass its part of the U.K. we can move about unlike the Norway stuck in one place trash.
I know its hard but try to understand Q Austrilias, Canadas, South Africans,New Zelanders, and even Americans are a people we are the english speaking people we all at some point came from the U.K. most of us anyway.
Just what the hell are you talking about..??
I??ve had the same discussion with the ???doggy?? in ???political?? forum just a month ago, he is just pure idiot racist ask others to assimilate and respect but he don??t want to respect the others and their way of life.
Dude we live in a multicultural world does this wake you up from the coma you were spending the last 30 years? Multiculture means multireligion, multiethnicities, multicolour as this representing the humanity as whole not a flock of cattle and sheeples left here and there on the face of the planet forcing their will proud of being ignorant and arrogant.
Wake up??_ get change before change gets you ..!
I??ve had the same discussion with the ???doggy?? in ???political?? forum just a month ago, he is just pure idiot racist ask others to assimilate and respect but he don??t want to respect the others and their way of life.
Dude we live in a multicultural world does this wake you up from the coma you were spending the last 30 years? Multiculture means multireligion, multiethnicities, multicolour as this representing the humanity as whole not a flock of cattle and sheeples left here and there on the face of the planet forcing their will proud of being ignorant and arrogant.
Wake up??_ get change before change gets you ..!
To change or not to change
If I have to accept there fucked views of how they feel life should be like stoning people
killing everyone who isn't there religion then they will have to kill me.
Why never a word out of you about the people who are a threat to the world ?
Its only the americans are the fault the brits are the fault!
If I have to accept there fucked views of how they feel life should be like stoning people
killing everyone who isn't there religion then they will have to kill me.
Why never a word out of you about the people who are a threat to the world ?
Its only the americans are the fault the brits are the fault!
Fucking commy
Threat to the world? Lol ...
Fucking imperalist..! Fucking threat to the world are those psycho nations who enjoy invading and murdering other nations under the deceitful name of their version of democracy to rob their resources..!
Threat to the life, world, freedom and liberties are those nations who have built arsenal of thousands of nuclear/biological/chemical weapons ready to blow up the planet and humanity all together 10 times over.
Fucking imperalist..! Fucking threat to the world are those psycho nations who enjoy invading and murdering other nations under the deceitful name of their version of democracy to rob their resources..!
Threat to the life, world, freedom and liberties are those nations who have built arsenal of thousands of nuclear/biological/chemical weapons ready to blow up the planet and humanity all together 10 times over.
your right we can do that next week is my turn to keep my finger on the button
HAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHA
Well then, you and a like can do whatever fuck you like to do as history shows..
Just don??t play the stupid retard games of martyrs and victims and act as innocents again??_!
Just don??t play the stupid retard games of martyrs and victims and act as innocents again??_!
Why never a word out of you about the people who are a threat to the world ?
Its only the americans are the fault the brits are the fault!
Dose the name of Enrico Fermi and his associations with J. Robert Oppenheimer in Manhattan project and the detonation of the world??s first nuclear bombe ring a bell to you..?
Have you ever read in anyway Oppenheimer??s side of the story..?
Try it once??_??_??_??_??_.. it makes you wiser..!
Its only the americans are the fault the brits are the fault!
Dose the name of Enrico Fermi and his associations with J. Robert Oppenheimer in Manhattan project and the detonation of the world??s first nuclear bombe ring a bell to you..?
Have you ever read in anyway Oppenheimer??s side of the story..?
Try it once??_??_??_??_??_.. it makes you wiser..!
Hide it because couple of stupid typos..!
Twice ................ makes you puke...!
Thrice................. makes you where I am standing...!!
Now go on and research if you dare??_(of course.. chickens never dare)..!
Twice ................ makes you puke...!
Thrice................. makes you where I am standing...!!
Now go on and research if you dare??_(of course.. chickens never dare)..!
Julius Robert Oppenheimer
J. Robert Oppenheimer was born in New York City on April 22, 1904. After graduating from Harvard and studying under Ernest Rutherford at Cambridge University, Oppenheimer received his Ph.D. in Germany in 1925. In 1929, he returned to the United States to teach at the University of California Berkeley and at Cal Tech.
Upon hearing of discovery of fission in 1939, Oppenheimer immediately grasped the possibility of atomic bombs. In 1941, he was brought into the atomic bomb project and was asked to calculate the critical mass of uranium-235, the amount needed to sustain a chain reaction. The next year he assembled a group of some of the best theoretical physicists in the country to discuss the design of the actual bomb. General Leslie Groves, the army officer in charge of the Manhattan Project, named Oppenheimer the scientific director of the program, and together they decided on Los Alamos, New Mexico, as the site for the nuclear weapons laboratory. Groves said of Oppenheimer, "He's a genius. A real genius...Why, Oppenheimer knows about everything. He can talk to you about anything you bring up. Well not exactly. I guess there are a few things he doesn't know about. He doesn't know anything about sports."
Germans did. On the day of the test, Oppenheimer fully realized the enormity of what he had just accomplished. As he stood watching the mushroom cloud, he recalled later, a phrase from the Baghavad Gita, the Hindu scripture, floated through his mind, "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." This responsibility weighed heavily on his shoulders, and when he met with President Harry Truman in 1946, he exclaimed, "Mr. President, I have blood on my hands."
He set up a research station for the Project at Los Alamos, New Mexico.
Following World War II, Oppenheimer chaired the US Atomic Energy Commission. On December 21, 1953, during the height of anti-communist sentiment in the US, Oppenheimer was accused of delaying the naming of Soviet agents, and also of opposing the building of the hydrogen bomb. Although he was not found guilty of treason, his security access was taken away and his contract as adviser to the Atomic Energy Commission was terminated.
In 1963, President Lyndon B. Johnson presented Oppenheimer with the Enrico Fermi Award of the Atom
A fucking commi to you who brought and makes the fucking Americans super power..! and he paid the price as a thanks for bein
J. Robert Oppenheimer was born in New York City on April 22, 1904. After graduating from Harvard and studying under Ernest Rutherford at Cambridge University, Oppenheimer received his Ph.D. in Germany in 1925. In 1929, he returned to the United States to teach at the University of California Berkeley and at Cal Tech.
Upon hearing of discovery of fission in 1939, Oppenheimer immediately grasped the possibility of atomic bombs. In 1941, he was brought into the atomic bomb project and was asked to calculate the critical mass of uranium-235, the amount needed to sustain a chain reaction. The next year he assembled a group of some of the best theoretical physicists in the country to discuss the design of the actual bomb. General Leslie Groves, the army officer in charge of the Manhattan Project, named Oppenheimer the scientific director of the program, and together they decided on Los Alamos, New Mexico, as the site for the nuclear weapons laboratory. Groves said of Oppenheimer, "He's a genius. A real genius...Why, Oppenheimer knows about everything. He can talk to you about anything you bring up. Well not exactly. I guess there are a few things he doesn't know about. He doesn't know anything about sports."
Germans did. On the day of the test, Oppenheimer fully realized the enormity of what he had just accomplished. As he stood watching the mushroom cloud, he recalled later, a phrase from the Baghavad Gita, the Hindu scripture, floated through his mind, "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds." This responsibility weighed heavily on his shoulders, and when he met with President Harry Truman in 1946, he exclaimed, "Mr. President, I have blood on my hands."
He set up a research station for the Project at Los Alamos, New Mexico.
Following World War II, Oppenheimer chaired the US Atomic Energy Commission. On December 21, 1953, during the height of anti-communist sentiment in the US, Oppenheimer was accused of delaying the naming of Soviet agents, and also of opposing the building of the hydrogen bomb. Although he was not found guilty of treason, his security access was taken away and his contract as adviser to the Atomic Energy Commission was terminated.
In 1963, President Lyndon B. Johnson presented Oppenheimer with the Enrico Fermi Award of the Atom
A fucking commi to you who brought and makes the fucking Americans super power..! and he paid the price as a thanks for bein
Destroyer of the of the world as you have mentioned it..!
Now tell me about some nomads with machete are a threat the world???aint that funny..??
Now tell me about some nomads with machete are a threat the world???aint that funny..??
All they want and ask is to live and left in peace from the ???known destroyers????_. CAN YOU UNDERSTAND THIS..??
If not... then you deserve the outcome... Whatever it is or might be..!
If not... then you deserve the outcome... Whatever it is or might be..!
Youre missing my point....
I said I have admiration for people who move to another country to make a better life.....
Ill give you an example....
I lived in New Zealand, our neigbours were cook islanders, one day they beat a pig to death in their backyard right next to ours, it was horrific. Apparently that is customary in the Cook Islands but it is "Illegal" in New Zealand, yet if any action is taken against them, they cry "Racism"
There have been a few cases of that.......
If "Thats" multiculturalism, then no, i dont embrace it.....
I also dont believe that local councils should have to remove pictures of Santa Claus from shop windows because it offends certain minorities....
It it offends them so much then they should make use of that other great western right that we have - the right to "Leave"
Multiculturalism is great, I do embrace it, but i start hitting back when other customs start "invading my space"
You have your customs, and I have mine.....
I said I have admiration for people who move to another country to make a better life.....
Ill give you an example....
I lived in New Zealand, our neigbours were cook islanders, one day they beat a pig to death in their backyard right next to ours, it was horrific. Apparently that is customary in the Cook Islands but it is "Illegal" in New Zealand, yet if any action is taken against them, they cry "Racism"
There have been a few cases of that.......
If "Thats" multiculturalism, then no, i dont embrace it.....
I also dont believe that local councils should have to remove pictures of Santa Claus from shop windows because it offends certain minorities....
It it offends them so much then they should make use of that other great western right that we have - the right to "Leave"
Multiculturalism is great, I do embrace it, but i start hitting back when other customs start "invading my space"
You have your customs, and I have mine.....
I am waiting for the nomads to behead Q all in the name of change.
Posted by dogsbody
I think many people attempt to change their habits or behaviour but at the end of the day, you are who you are....
So no, I dont think that people really change....
People change, we all have to change at some point, it's human nature -- those that change slowly are the ones that don't want nature to take it's course, so they push back against it.
And some welcome it.
Posted by dogsbody
Youre missing my point....
I said I have admiration for people who move to another country to make a better life.....
Ill give you an example....
I lived in New Zealand, our neigbours were cook islanders, one day they beat a pig to death in their backyard right next to ours, it was horrific. Apparently that is customary in the Cook Islands but it is "Illegal" in New Zealand, yet if any action is taken against them, they cry "Racism"
There have been a few cases of that.......
If "Thats" multiculturalism, then no, i dont embrace it.....
I also dont believe that local councils should have to remove pictures of Santa Claus from shop windows because it offends certain minorities....
It it offends them so much then they should make use of that other great western right that we have - the right to "Leave"
Multiculturalism is great, I do embrace it, but i start hitting back when other customs start "invading my space"
You have your customs, and I have mine.....
No one can't take anything from you, if you want to do your stuff than do it. No one else's custom's can invade your space. What you do in your home is what you do and what people do out in the open is what they do.
Out in the open shouldn't bother anyone if it's what they are doing Like if I choose to dye my hair electric purple, does that mean others have to do it? No.
It makes sense to learn how to deal with many types of people early, it stops a lot confusion as you get older.
There was this older guy in my class a few weeks ago that kinda echoed the same thing, he felt invaded. And I said the same thing in class but in more detail because it was like a small debate going on and I wanted to make sure my team won she we would get the extra points ^_^.
Like I said, people can change, it depends on what you are willing to embrace and accept. Change has many aspects but acceptance being one of them.
I do understand what he was getting at but I have a different perspective.
Like if I choose to dye my hair electric purple, does that mean others have to do it? No. It makes sense to learn how to deal with many types of people early, it stops a lot confusion as you get older.
There was this older guy in my class a few weeks ago that kinda echoed the same thing, he felt invaded. And I said the same thing in class but in more detail because it was like a small debate going on and I wanted to make sure my team won she we would get the extra points ^_^.
Like I said, people can change, it depends on what you are willing to embrace and accept. Change has many aspects but acceptance being one of them.
I do understand what he was getting at but I have a different perspective.
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