Life - what’s must important?

This topic was created in the Miscellaneous forum by PuzzlePieces on Wednesday, January 15, 2020 and has 17 replies.
Everyone has a different answer I suppose. Some people it’s a romantic relationship, whether married or not, some kids, some career. What else?

I was always a relationship person had a career. I suppose did what I was supposed to do. When my marriage fell apart & wasn’t salvageable .. it became the kids. I sacrificed career and post-divorce relationships for them. I had two kids with some big issues so it seemed what was most important. I’m so proud of both of them at the moment, and I don’t regret being there for them. I wish I’d been able to maintain healthy relationship also but I see my 19 yo and what she’s overcome and it makes my heart warm. Maybe all the maternal cap placements? . Now that they are okay, hopefully the rest of life will get figured out. Although career is less important and creative endeavors, travel, romance seem more important. Weird the stages you go through in life 🙃 Maybe it’s time for the Sag to truly come out, seems more so as I get older. Exploring! Lol

What’s Important to you? What’s your sun moon Venus mars ?
Relationships. Good and lasting ones.

Your career is not going to fulfil you, if it's lonely at the top, your employees are undermining you, your achievements are easily forgotten, your network lets you down.

Your money and possessions are not going to fulfil you, if you don't have anyone to admire you for them.

Your hobbies are not going to fulfil you, if they are not shared with someone.

Your addictions are not going to fulfil you, just temporary fill the hole in your heart, while wasting your life.
I think your right about stages. Depends where you are in life.

When your younger it’s about career and finding ‘the one’. When you have kids your needs and dreams get put on hold for them. Then once their grown you can concentrate on yourself again.

Personally I’m coming to the realization that although tangible goals and chasing success is a cornerstone in my life, slowing down and enjoying the moment is what really matters. Things can change in an instant, life is fragile.
Posted by Undine

Relationships. Good and lasting ones.

Your career is not going to fulfil you, if it's lonely at the top, your employees are undermining you, your achievements are easily forgotten, your network lets you down.

Your money and possessions are not going to fulfil you, if you don't have anyone to admire you for them.

Your hobbies are not going to fulfil you, if they are not shared with someone.

Your addictions are not going to fulfil you, just temporary fill the hole in your heart, while wasting your life.


That's such a one-dimensional view on life. 🙄

It's not like everyone aspires to own a company or to become a CEO. And yet, even the ones that do may find a sense of fulfillment in that type of job - if that's their thing (management). Anyway, there's all kinds of professions in this world (doctor, photographer, designer, musician, teacher, scientist, firefighter, actor, YouTuber and so on and so forth) - that have very little to do with being at a top - but more importantly - they did/do bring a sense of fulfillment to those who made a career out of that. In some cases - far more than their relationship. What can i say... some people are lucky at both (both career and relationship), some just at one of the two - while others at none. C'est la vie. You talk as if all the people are the same (obsessed with romantic relationships - as if that's the only thing that can bring anyone a sense of fulfillment).
Love, family, friends, safe home and good health....

...and peace of mind and freedom
This topic reminds me of a poem by Kenneth Koch...



Posted by LadyNeptune

I think your right about stages. Depends where you are in life.

When your younger it’s about career and finding ‘the one’. When you have kids your needs and dreams get put on hold for them. Then once their grown you can concentrate on yourself again.

Personally I’m coming to the realization that although tangible goals and chasing success is a cornerstone in my life, slowing down and enjoying the moment is what really matters. Things can change in an instant, life is fragile.
The balance is important. I think today’s generation thinks a lot differently than when I was young. Internet may have a lot to do with that & the ability to share opinions. The only constant is change, and you must do what is important to you & not others. Cuz in the end, you must be okay with what your life was.

I know that’s what happened with me but not everyone is the same.
Posted by PuzzlePieces
Posted by LadyNeptune

I think your right about stages. Depends where you are in life.

When your younger it’s about career and finding ‘the one’. When you have kids your needs and dreams get put on hold for them. Then once their grown you can concentrate on yourself again.

Personally I’m coming to the realization that although tangible goals and chasing success is a cornerstone in my life, slowing down and enjoying the moment is what really matters. Things can change in an instant, life is fragile.


The balance is important. I think today’s generation thinks a lot differently than when I was young. Internet may have a lot to do with that & the ability to share opinions. The only constant is change, and you must do what is important to you & not others. Cuz in the end, you must be okay with what your life was.

I know that’s what happened with me but not everyone is the same.
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For sure. And what you want changes as well. The older I get the more space I want. Used to live in a downtown area and loved being walk-able to everything as a trade off for the noise pollution and sharing walls with neighbors. Now I'm like... give me the big ass lot where I don't need to see my neighbors at all and I go outside and its quiet af.


Good health!!!

It is overlooked and taken for granted time and again, until malady strikes... then all else pales in comparison.

Although, one might want to have a loved one, or two, in their corner during those trials.
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Posted by neves

This topic reminds me of a poem by Kenneth Koch...




That bit at the end is very clever if it means what I think it means.
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It's pretty straight forward if you ask me: it's about a writer who found love and started having a social life in his 30s - but sacrificed his work (writing) for that. As he mentioned in the beginning... "there's not enough time - to do all 3 things right (to be a good a lover, to have a social life with friends - and do a good job as well). Come to think of it... that might be possible if you're a bartender. (:
It's really simple. Being genuine about who you are and focusing on what makes you content.

(And if what makes you "content" is something that causes destruction on the world, then you're not truly content. It's just a reflection of who you are inside. so then you would need to work from the inside, out)
To give more then you take so at the end of life you can be comfort with death. To live a life absorbing everything around you is a disease. To actually have the ability give back even though its not in life's nature to do so is a miracle.
Nothing matters cause we all die, can virg tau
Tbh...fuck if I know. Things constantly change and I'm not going to limit myself to sticking to one thing or another or feeling like I have to have one thing or another. I'm just going with the flow of life.

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Posted by neves

This topic reminds me of a poem by Kenneth Koch...




That bit at the end is very clever if it means what I think it means.


It's pretty straight forward if you ask me: it's about a writer who found love and started having a social life in his 30s - but sacrificed his work (writing) for that. As he mentioned in the beginning... "there's not enough time - to do all 3 things right (to be a good a lover, to have a social life with friends - and do a good job as well). Come to think of it... that might be possible if you're a bartender. (:


Perhaps it's because it was my first time encountering it. I was thinking it was a general musing about life, and then the last line made me quite sure he was talking about himself, and this poem was his confession.
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That's quite likely as well. Most writers do that (use their personal life as inspiration). Charles Bukowski - is another writer who did that quite often...

Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by PuzzlePieces
Posted by LadyNeptune

I think your right about stages. Depends where you are in life.

When your younger it’s about career and finding ‘the one’. When you have kids your needs and dreams get put on hold for them. Then once their grown you can concentrate on yourself again.

Personally I’m coming to the realization that although tangible goals and chasing success is a cornerstone in my life, slowing down and enjoying the moment is what really matters. Things can change in an instant, life is fragile.


The balance is important. I think today’s generation thinks a lot differently than when I was young. Internet may have a lot to do with that & the ability to share opinions. The only constant is change, and you must do what is important to you & not others. Cuz in the end, you must be okay with what your life was.

I know that’s what happened with me but not everyone is the same.


For sure. And what you want changes as well. The older I get the more space I want. Used to live in a downtown area and loved being walk-able to everything as a trade off for the noise pollution and sharing walls with neighbors. Now I'm like... give me the big ass lot where I don't need to see my neighbors at all and I go outside and its quiet af.
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Ya that’s what we did moving to Oregon. Lived with my ex husband & kids in the country on 8 acres. It was amazing for the first couple of years but then not so much. Now I’m back to sharing walls lol and miss the things city provides. 🤷‍♀️
Posted by neves

This topic reminds me of a poem by Kenneth Koch...


Hmm yes. All about the choices.