Never be silent!!
Animals used for food, clothing and exploited in a myriad of other ways have been striped of their voice! Even if you ea...
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Posted by venusianbullPosted by wgamador2Posted by Sizzurp
Hunting/trapping and fishing for meat are perfectly acceptable and natural in my book. I take serious issue with SPORT hunters because I think they are lower than dirt and have zero respect for the natural order. Additionally, the way animals are "kept" in the US is disgusting. Chickens for example, are kept immobile in cages that are barely larger than the chicken itself and turned into "egg machines." That's revolting but it does force one to question our ever-expanding population.
I applaud McDonald's for firing those farmers who were containing pigs in tiny cages. I would become CEO of McDonald's just to change the way animals are treated. Most farmers complain that its expensive to make these facilities more humane. There shouldn't be a price to being HUMAN. I hope I never end up in hell. I would miss animals there.
I think i posted the article a few pages back in here.
I wish animal suffering didn't affect me so much. I love animals. Insects too.
So i watched a program about an expedition to New Guinea and there is this crater that is basically closed off from human contact, it was explored and they found "the biggest rat on Earth", when they found it, the rat WAS NOT AFRAID of the humans and just chilled with them, just like your family pet is chillin' with you right now.
It showed no fear, never showed any aggression. It was a nice moment to witness this animal who had no idea how horrible human beings can be to it. When I die, I want to go there, to that place.
The thought of that rats sack dragging the ground sends a shiver through me.click to expand
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COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! I am not afraid of rats, snakes, insects or arachnids. I find them fascinating.
Posted by venusianbull
COOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!! I am not afraid of rats, snakes, insects or arachnids. I find them fascinating.
My kind of woman!!
*deep curtsy* 
Posted by Sizzurp
No.
You're making the elephant out to be a highwayman. Elephants are long-remembered creatures and if people decide to erect a village in an elephant migratory path, they will suffer the consequences. Thus, it's not a simple manner of "one has to do what one has to do," rather its an issue of human of expansion/ENCROACHMENT. I'm not trolling you but the "pioneer" mindset is dead and people really NEED to stop being so tunnel-visioned.
I recently read an article about a biologist who specialized in Polar Bear behavior. He was mortally stalked briefly but he did NOT engage the bear in any mortal affect. The biologist realized that the bears would be hibernating soon and were seeking any form of nourishment, including human flesh. This relevant, particular case has nothing to do with "one must do what one must do," but realizing that YOU, the HUMAN are the invader and will not be seen as a superior creature but rather subject to the law of fang and claw: Can I kill and devour you? or will you kill and devour me?
I'm with you on this debate my man.
I think that either way the destruction of the elephant is fucked up.
But regardless wether a village was built in an elephant path, we cannot change that, so what i was saying is that for me the only time I would be "okay" with the killing of any wild animal is if he posed a threat to human life.
I totally agree, if you were to build a village, shit, do your research before you build. Find out what other species will you have to live with, etc.
Posted by SizzurpPosted by wgamador2Posted by Sizzurp
No.
I think that either way the destruction of the elephant is fucked up.
But regardless wether a village was built in an elephant path, we cannot change that, so what i was saying is that for me the only time I would be "okay" with the killing of any wild animal is if he posed a threat to human life.
I totally agree, if you were to build a village, shit, do your research before you build. Find out what other species will you have to live with, etc.
I know what you mean dude. I watched a documentary recently and I was pretty angry afterwards. I'm not entirely sure what to do about it other than post rants on a random forum
Collect your friends empty beer cans and turn them in and take that money and send it to the ASPCA or other Anti-cruelty to animal organizations in which you can actually get a report on how the money is being spent.
Volunteer at an animal shelter where you can be kind to animals rescued from abuse.
When you have a party, put out a jar for donations. Then write a check to the ASPCA but take a photo of it first and at the next get together show everyone the copy of the check and they will all feel good that they helped.
Surround yourself with great people and you will figure a way to help.
Besides that, there is nothing else we can do.
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Burger King to use eggs from cage-free hens
By Chris Isidore @CNNMoney April 25, 2012: 1:40 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Breakfast at Burger King is about to get more humane.
The nation's No. 2 fast food chain announced an agreement Wednesday with the Humane Society of the United States to switch to eggs from hens not kept in cages, and to only use pork products from pigs also not kept and bred in small cages.
While rivals McDonald's, Wendy's and other food-service companies already have policies or agreements with the Humane Society on the humane treatment of pigs, Wednesday's announcement was the first by a major chain that it would switch to cage-free eggs.
"What this does is send a clear message to these industries that their customers and the public don't want animals confined for their entire lives in cages. They will have to make changes," said Matt Prescott, food policy director for the Humane Society.
Burger King is privately held, but is planning an initial public offering later this summer.
McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500) did not have an immediate comment on move. Wendy's (WEN) spokesman Denny Lynch said his company doesn't sell breakfast at most locations, so it is concentrating on implementing more humane rules for slaughtering chickens for their meat than on the treatment of egg-producing hens.
"You can't focus on everything," he said.
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Thank You, BK.
"What this does is send a clear message to these industries that their customers and the public don't want animals confined for their entire lives in cages. They will have to make changes," said Matt Prescott, food policy director for the Humane Society.
....Thank You God and Thank You universe. Less suffering of any type is a great thing.
By Chris Isidore @CNNMoney April 25, 2012: 1:40 PM ET
NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Breakfast at Burger King is about to get more humane.
The nation's No. 2 fast food chain announced an agreement Wednesday with the Humane Society of the United States to switch to eggs from hens not kept in cages, and to only use pork products from pigs also not kept and bred in small cages.
While rivals McDonald's, Wendy's and other food-service companies already have policies or agreements with the Humane Society on the humane treatment of pigs, Wednesday's announcement was the first by a major chain that it would switch to cage-free eggs.
"What this does is send a clear message to these industries that their customers and the public don't want animals confined for their entire lives in cages. They will have to make changes," said Matt Prescott, food policy director for the Humane Society.
Burger King is privately held, but is planning an initial public offering later this summer.
McDonald's (MCD, Fortune 500) did not have an immediate comment on move. Wendy's (WEN) spokesman Denny Lynch said his company doesn't sell breakfast at most locations, so it is concentrating on implementing more humane rules for slaughtering chickens for their meat than on the treatment of egg-producing hens.
"You can't focus on everything," he said.
------------------------------------------------------
Thank You, BK.
"What this does is send a clear message to these industries that their customers and the public don't want animals confined for their entire lives in cages. They will have to make changes," said Matt Prescott, food policy director for the Humane Society.
....Thank You God and Thank You universe. Less suffering of any type is a great thing.
---cont'ed...
The United Egg Producers, an industry trade group, says that cage-free eggs make up only 5% of the U.S. market, and have some environmental downsides, including a larger "carbon footprint" because the hens require more water, acreage and cropland than caged chickens.
It said uncaged chickens can have more health problems and a shorter lifespan than those that are caged.
It also said that cage-free eggs typically have a retail cost more than triple that of traditional eggs -- $ 1.18 for eggs from caged hens compared to an average of $ 3.59 for cage-free eggs. A 2009 UEP study found that banning cages for hen-laying eggs would raise production costs by 25% , or $ 2.7 billion annually.
But Prescott said that a 2006 study done for UEP showed a much lower cost increase. He doubts that Burger King will have to pay significantly more for its cage-free eggs.
"If retailers are jacking the price up for people who want cage-free eggs, that's not representative of the costs," he said. "I think what Burger King is doing is going to open the market up for cage-free producers and consumers who want that product."
Prescott said he doubts the UEP claims that caged chickens are healthier or more environmentally sound.
"It doesn't take a scientist to look at five to eight animals crammed into a cage the size of a file cabinet drawer and say this is wrong," said Prescott.
The United Egg Producers, an industry trade group, says that cage-free eggs make up only 5% of the U.S. market, and have some environmental downsides, including a larger "carbon footprint" because the hens require more water, acreage and cropland than caged chickens.
It said uncaged chickens can have more health problems and a shorter lifespan than those that are caged.
It also said that cage-free eggs typically have a retail cost more than triple that of traditional eggs -- $ 1.18 for eggs from caged hens compared to an average of $ 3.59 for cage-free eggs. A 2009 UEP study found that banning cages for hen-laying eggs would raise production costs by 25% , or $ 2.7 billion annually.
But Prescott said that a 2006 study done for UEP showed a much lower cost increase. He doubts that Burger King will have to pay significantly more for its cage-free eggs.
"If retailers are jacking the price up for people who want cage-free eggs, that's not representative of the costs," he said. "I think what Burger King is doing is going to open the market up for cage-free producers and consumers who want that product."
Prescott said he doubts the UEP claims that caged chickens are healthier or more environmentally sound.
"It doesn't take a scientist to look at five to eight animals crammed into a cage the size of a file cabinet drawer and say this is wrong," said Prescott.
"It said uncaged chickens can have more health problems and a shorter lifespan than those that are caged."
hahahahaha.
You could say that about inmates in prisons also.
Lets see as someone who unfortunately had to experience incarceration...would i rather live longer in a cell or live shorter and have freedom?
As crazy as it sounds, i rather live shorter but live free.
Feds close California slaughterhouse after video shows terrible abuse??
Dairy cows were electrocuted and even shot multiple times before they were slaughtered at the Central Valley Meat Co., according to the USDA.
FRESNO, Calif. ??? Federal regulators have shut down a Central California slaughterhouse after receiving undercover video showing dairy cows ??? some unable to walk being repeatedly shocked and shot before being slaughtered.
Officials with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which inspects meat facilities, suspended operations Monday at Central Valley Meat Co. in Hanford, Calif., which slaughters cows when they lose their value as milk producers.
The USDA received hours of videotape Friday from Compassion Over Killing, an animal welfare group, which said its undercover investigator was employed by the slaughterhouse and made the video over a two-week period in June.
"USDA considers inhumane treatment of animals at slaughter facilities to be unacceptable and is conducting a thorough investigation into these allegations," said Justin DeJong, spokesman for the Food Safety Inspection Service.
Four minutes of excerpts the animal welfare group provided to The Associated Press showed cows being prepared for slaughter. One worker appears to be suffocating a cow by standing on its muzzle after a gun that injects a bolt into the animal's head had failed to render it unconscious. In another clip, a cow is still conscious and flailing as a conveyor lifts it by one leg for transport to an area where the animals' throats are slit for blood draining.
"The horror caught on camera is sickening," said Erica Meier, executive director of Compassion Over Killing, based in Washington, D.C. "It's alarming that this is not only a USDA-inspected facility but a supplier to the USDA."
Cont'd......
Dairy cows were electrocuted and even shot multiple times before they were slaughtered at the Central Valley Meat Co., according to the USDA.
FRESNO, Calif. ??? Federal regulators have shut down a Central California slaughterhouse after receiving undercover video showing dairy cows ??? some unable to walk being repeatedly shocked and shot before being slaughtered.
Officials with the U.S. Department of Agriculture, which inspects meat facilities, suspended operations Monday at Central Valley Meat Co. in Hanford, Calif., which slaughters cows when they lose their value as milk producers.
The USDA received hours of videotape Friday from Compassion Over Killing, an animal welfare group, which said its undercover investigator was employed by the slaughterhouse and made the video over a two-week period in June.
"USDA considers inhumane treatment of animals at slaughter facilities to be unacceptable and is conducting a thorough investigation into these allegations," said Justin DeJong, spokesman for the Food Safety Inspection Service.
Four minutes of excerpts the animal welfare group provided to The Associated Press showed cows being prepared for slaughter. One worker appears to be suffocating a cow by standing on its muzzle after a gun that injects a bolt into the animal's head had failed to render it unconscious. In another clip, a cow is still conscious and flailing as a conveyor lifts it by one leg for transport to an area where the animals' throats are slit for blood draining.
"The horror caught on camera is sickening," said Erica Meier, executive director of Compassion Over Killing, based in Washington, D.C. "It's alarming that this is not only a USDA-inspected facility but a supplier to the USDA."
Cont'd......
Online USDA records show the company has contracted to sell ground beef to USDA food programs.
Within hours of seeing the video, the USDA's Office of Inspector General sent investigators who found evidence of "egregious inhumane handling and treatment of livestock."
"FSIS suspended operations at the facility and is prepared to take further action as warranted by the investigation," DeJong said.
The USDA had at least two inspectors stationed at the site, and federal officials, when asked whether there was evidence the inspectors had neglected their duties, said the investigation is ongoing.
Central Valley Meat Co., owned by Brian and Lawrence Coelho, declined to comment on the video, saying company officials had not seen it.
"We were extremely disturbed to be informed by the USDA that ... our plant could not operate based upon a videotape that was provided to the Department by a third party group that alleged inhumane treatment of animals on our property," said a company statement.
Brian Coelho added, "Our company seeks not just to meet federal humane handling regulations, but exceed them."
Meier said pay stubs confirm the undercover operative's stint working at the slaughterhouse.
The videos show workers pulling downed cows by their tails and kicking them in an apparent attempt to get them to stand and walk to slaughter. Others shoot downed cows in the head over and over as the cows thrash on the ground. In one instance, the video shows workers trying to get cattle to back out of a chute while repeatedly spraying them with water and shocking them.
Veterinarians specializing in humane handling were a part of the USDA's rapid initial inspection that led to the shutdown at Central Valley Meat Co. The USDA told plant officials Sunday that it was withholding inspection marks and "immediately suspending the assignment of inspectors at the facility."
"It's a good sign that the USDA is taking this seriously, but I want to see what comes next," said Meier, adding the video will be posted on the organization's website Tuesday. "The footage clearly speaks for itself, but this is not an isolated incident. Investigation after investigation of these places is revealing cruelty."
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Great job by the USDA shutting that place down. Animal cruelty is an insult to God himself.
Within hours of seeing the video, the USDA's Office of Inspector General sent investigators who found evidence of "egregious inhumane handling and treatment of livestock."
"FSIS suspended operations at the facility and is prepared to take further action as warranted by the investigation," DeJong said.
The USDA had at least two inspectors stationed at the site, and federal officials, when asked whether there was evidence the inspectors had neglected their duties, said the investigation is ongoing.
Central Valley Meat Co., owned by Brian and Lawrence Coelho, declined to comment on the video, saying company officials had not seen it.
"We were extremely disturbed to be informed by the USDA that ... our plant could not operate based upon a videotape that was provided to the Department by a third party group that alleged inhumane treatment of animals on our property," said a company statement.
Brian Coelho added, "Our company seeks not just to meet federal humane handling regulations, but exceed them."
Meier said pay stubs confirm the undercover operative's stint working at the slaughterhouse.
The videos show workers pulling downed cows by their tails and kicking them in an apparent attempt to get them to stand and walk to slaughter. Others shoot downed cows in the head over and over as the cows thrash on the ground. In one instance, the video shows workers trying to get cattle to back out of a chute while repeatedly spraying them with water and shocking them.
Veterinarians specializing in humane handling were a part of the USDA's rapid initial inspection that led to the shutdown at Central Valley Meat Co. The USDA told plant officials Sunday that it was withholding inspection marks and "immediately suspending the assignment of inspectors at the facility."
"It's a good sign that the USDA is taking this seriously, but I want to see what comes next," said Meier, adding the video will be posted on the organization's website Tuesday. "The footage clearly speaks for itself, but this is not an isolated incident. Investigation after investigation of these places is revealing cruelty."
Read more: #ixzz24DgxpJ7Z
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Great job by the USDA shutting that place down. Animal cruelty is an insult to God himself.
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