Police shoot and kill pregnant black mother of four who called them for help regarding a break in...

Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!! On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting. On Sunday, shortly be...

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Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
Posted by bubblebath
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Posted by bubblebath
America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops

also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
yep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
so much for America land of the free

no one expect to call the police for help and get shot. police have too much power, that when they take advantage of it. the woman didn't deserve to get shot, despite what her history was
Free for the white man, if the Britain hadn't been so arrogant, slavery would have ended long before the civil war, and guns wouldn't be the 2nd amendment.

all these laws came during the revolutionary war to twart British law.

Blacks assumed wrongly that equal under the law meant them and probably just wanted their freedom so fought for the patriots, even that lame FUKER Washington, who kept his slaves till he died, and was curious why they fuking ran away from his pathetic a $ 4. Ummm bytch didn't black men fight for your revolution, you can't even see them as a HUMAN BEING ...

i would have not fought for the colonists...i would have defected and said fuk all ya'll

but everything is in hindsight

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Women fought in the revolutionary war as well, its documented. But according to history books there was no women in america until Florence Nightingale.

The real legacy our 'Land of the Free' has is oppression and intolerance.
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Posted by Nevermore
There's still need to have a full investigations there. I don't like to react right away while this happened suddenly.

http://www.theroot.com/seattle-police-release-more-video-of-charleena-lyles-sh-1796364709

Has audio in it of 911 call. She's to darn calm or tired for the sounds of it.
they're just trying to prove their case, but they already knew she had mental issues so at the least they're negligent...at the most they're trigger happy
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Where is the footage from the officers body cam???

If it supported the police right to violent action they would've released it. The fact they haven't tells me everything I need to know.

This murder was not justified.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.

Read again hun.

The incident with the shears was a separate incident entirely.

She called the police to investigate a possible break in. They gunned her down presumably in front of her kids. And of course the police body cam footage is missing from the released footage by the police.
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She got it right, with two separate incidents

acknowledged.
Posted by CheVirgo
I remember as a 15 year old playing basketball with my friends who were Black and Spanish got stopped by police looking for a black guy with a hoodie height description 5'6 to 6'7 ????? that can be any black person. I really hate when white people say things like " you won't go to jail if you don't dress like a thug " Martin Luther King went to jail, Malcolm X, Rosa Parks and they wore suites and dresses. People need to read the constitution it shows how racist America is with black people being 3/5 of a human being and how the gov't can still practice slavery in prison which is why cops go into black and Spanish communities, to force slave labor. Most black and Spanish men are in jail for none violent crime like selling weed but unlike the white guy who sells and smoke weed too that black and Spanish person will go to jail because they look like a " bad dude ".

Sorry for the long paragraph and terrible gramma.
Yes prisons are a left over relic from slavery days...meant to oppress and enslave people of color.
Posted by Damnata
Posted by Adreamuponwaking
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
0 excuses for this fuckery.
Have you seen 12 angry men?

Watch it. Might give you perspective on making such a strong statement without proof, because you're only feeling reactive.

I'm not being facetious or sarcastic btw. Really good movie.
Have you watched Fruitvale?

Do you know who oscar grant or treyvon martin is?

or alex nieto?

or Tamir rice?



Yep.

Were they in that apartment? I missed that in the article let me go look again.

(do you realize how ridiculous you are because you can't take it on a case by case basis or has it yet to dawn on you?)
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Do you realize how ridiculous you are as a non-American white person commenting on an American social --political problem that has been proven time and time again to exist?

Scratch that. I don't think you are ridiculous.

You're simply ignorant ( which is not an insult).

Your specific argument whether you realize it or not is based on your own identity and experience and not reason as you would like to make it out to be.

Your argument is actually in line with those who have never experienced harassment or less than favorable treatment at the hands of law enforcement.

Using logic.....what are they odds that this woman had an assault rifle that fired multiple rounds and at the time of her death was an active shooter? Because that would be the only appropriate time to shoot someone multiple times ( shoot to kill) .

All of the accounts of police brutality involve killing someone unarmed, or a child or armed with anything less lethal than a gun. Even in taking in account what the police report says as being true.....this incident still counts as involving excessive force.




Posted by Damnata
Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Use your brain.

Lack of critical thinking is boring.

LMAO.

Alright, I'll go do that.


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No seriously.

Try to really be objective and take in account your own biases / blind spots may be.

And they say Americans are anti-intellectual.

One of the officers was a certified crisis intervention specialist according to this article.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/seattle-cops-fatally-shot-pregnant-mother-identified-article-1.3265050
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Use your brain.

Lack of critical thinking is boring.

LMAO.

Alright, I'll go do that.


No seriously.

Try to really be objective and take in account your own biases / blind spots may be.

And they say Americans are anti-intellectual.

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Yeah seriously I am laughing at the irony of your statements.
Posted by Damnata
Posted by Adreamuponwaking
Posted by Damnata
Posted by Adreamuponwaking

Use your brain.

Lack of critical thinking is boring.

LMAO.

Alright, I'll go do that.


No seriously.

Try to really be objective and take in account your own biases / blind spots may be.

And they say Americans are anti-intellectual.

Yeah seriously I am laughing at the irony of your statements.
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That's all I get?

I was expecting this to be a more fruitful debate.

I know what my biases are btw..it's just surprising that you aren't aware of yours.

Your opinion would even be more credible if you simply owned up to them.



Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
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Americans fear the police.
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.

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Here's my issue...why is killing the BLACK person always the only option? How do you capture terrorists who planted bombs around the city & fugitives who broke out of prison ALIVE but you can't handle a mentally disturbed woman holding shears? Have we not all heard the saying don't bring a knife to a gun fight? I've said my piece & I'm done

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Posted by CheVirgo
I remember as a 15 year old playing basketball with my friends who were Black and Spanish got stopped by police looking for a black guy with a hoodie height description 5'6 to 6'7 ????? that can be any black person. I really hate when white people say things like " you won't go to jail if you don't dress like a thug " Martin Luther King went to jail, Malcolm X, Rosa Parks and they wore suites and dresses. People need to read the constitution it shows how racist America is with black people being 3/5 of a human being and how the gov't can still practice slavery in prison which is why cops go into black and Spanish communities, to force slave labor. Most black and Spanish men are in jail for none violent crime like selling weed but unlike the white guy who sells and smoke weed too that black and Spanish person will go to jail because they look like a " bad dude ".

Sorry for the long paragraph and terrible gramma.
Yes prisons are a left over relic from slavery days...meant to oppress and enslave people of color.
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as well as the very poor

and mentally ill.

Posted by bubblebath
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
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watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
Posted by tcta
Not sure why they didn't just shoot her in the leg or something to stop her from advancing with a weapon - there was no reason to kill her if she could be stopped. Now there are 2 dead and 4 children homeless.
You don't know her mental stability. If she's crazy enough to entice the police to her home via a bogus 911 call, try to stab them (presumably) then what's to say she wouldn't attempt to harm her children? People do crazy stuff when they're messed up
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.

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Advancing with what dipshit? How fast can a pregnant lady move? That was a previous report against her not now she had no weapon or at least we'll never know! Because that's just like when white people ask 'Would Martin Luther King be dissapointed in you saying nigga?" Like 'uhm hello bitch we'll never know now because he's dead'! No offense to any white people I loooovee yoooouu all i Just can't tolerate the ignorance of this post.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


sheet
Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
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I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%


Missing body cam footage. How suspicious that the police officer 'forgot' to turn on his cam. No they erased the footage because its incriminating.

The police protect their own first.
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Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


sheet
Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
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Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.

Edit: this year so far
Just cause the media would rather report on Trumps tweets instead of police brutality doesn't mean its not happening.
I refuse to believe they could not have avoided this. Racist killing ...I am calling it crazy. The police should be charged.
Posted by CheVirgo
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.

Read again hun.

The incident with the shears was a separate incident entirely.

She called the police to investigate a possible break in. They gunned her down presumably in front of her kids. And of course the police body cam footage is missing from the released footage by the police.
100% agree police get trigger happy when it come to blacks because blacks form gangs and produce more violence than any other race.


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According to the FBI, whites lead in incest, child pornography,abduction of children, U.S terrorist attacks, insurance fraud, police brutality convictions, hate crimes, mass murder, inside trading convictions over 11 millions, malpractice suits and convicted politicians. You don't see Michael the black cop, shooting Alex the 16 year old, who is shooting up the schools do you? No you don't! A white kid will literally go in the school and shoot people because he has a hard time making friends mean while a civilized black women with 4 kids and one on the way calls for help and is instead killed.Leaving all those kids behind for the system to not take care of. i wonder why there is gangs and violence maybe, because 4 kids lost 2 people in one day ALL because their mother wanted HELP!!!!! Open your fucking eyes fuckface! How is that justifiable?

And I don't deny that there are good police officers. But the system is protecting the bad cops that put on the uniform and go out and commit murder.
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Posted by Lala1393
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.



Sorry but in my country, that is NOT a valid reason to kill a woman and her baby.


What the hell is wrong with you americans that you even find this ok ?

Why is there not a country riot ?

Are you really excusing all these killings ?

I'm not American.

You don't know what happened, neither do I. All we know is officers tell her to back away repeatedly. We don't know how she was advancing and this is someone who advanced with metal shears before so ...what if she had a gun? But we don't know.

Not a country riot because despite proof to the contrary...majority of people in the world are still sane and have common sense.

No? Don't know what killings you are on about. Also not up for me to excuse since there are avenues for that, aka investigations into it.

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PLEASE EXIT THE THREAD! YOUR IGNORANCE MIGHT BE CONTAGIOUS!
Lol at trying to remain neutral when there's an obvious bias in this country especially when it comes to law enforcement.
Posted by P-Angel
According to the article, she confronted the police officers with two knives .... I'm not talking about before with the shears.


I'm talking at the time she was shot .... she advanced on the cops with knives.


It's sad when a person loses their life .. but, life would be worse without being policed.


she shouldn't have confronted cops with knives. had she practiced being sensible, then she'd probably still be alive today
As always we only know what the police say why don't we ask the kids who where there. Or are they to young to know what they saw. Just wait till the police get a hold of them and change what they saw with the reverse psychology they will use! Mix up the words confusing and badgering them.
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Posted by Damnata
Posted by Lala1393
Posted by Damnata
Posted by LadyNeptune
She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
So..she harasses police with metal shears...then at the time of the shooting officers are heard saying "get back" which means she was advancing...

...we still don't get the full details of the case but time to assume and be outraged.

I agree..it has to stop. And by "it" I mean unfounded outrage by the public. It's embarrassing to not use mental faculties and be driven by passion.



Sorry but in my country, that is NOT a valid reason to kill a woman and her baby.


What the hell is wrong with you americans that you even find this ok ?

Why is there not a country riot ?

Are you really excusing all these killings ?

I'm not American.

You don't know what happened, neither do I. All we know is officers tell her to back away repeatedly. We don't know how she was advancing and this is someone who advanced with metal shears before so ...what if she had a gun? But we don't know.

Not a country riot because despite proof to the contrary...majority of people in the world are still sane and have common sense.

No? Don't know what killings you are on about. Also not up for me to excuse since there are avenues for that, aka investigations into it.

I totally agree with you and need the facts before I make assumptions. If police are shooting without a good reason then yes, outrage is warranted - but give me the real story here first. This is all just "media hype" to me and should be banned completely. This type of thing alone is what is causing disparity in our country.

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How do you expect to truly get the story. The victim is dead you know there is 2 sides to every story and we always get one side where the black people are the bad guys, even when there is video graphic proof!

http://weheartit.com/entry/286156266?context_page=5&context_set=125910567-woke&context_type=collection
Posted by P-Angel

If you advance on a cop with a knife, expect to be shot.
If your black and see a cop expect to be shot...let that sink in
Posted by tcta
Not sure why they didn't just shoot her in the leg or something to stop her from advancing with a weapon - there was no reason to kill her if she could be stopped. Now there are 2 dead and 4 children homeless.
You never shoot someone in the limbs. You shoot to kill or not at all.

If you need to shoot someone, then it must mean it's imminent threat to your life/safety. If you're shooting to incapacitate someone, then they live- and it's easy for them to argue that there was no imminent threat, no need to shoot. And then they sue you for crippling them for life.

Also, shooting to hit a limb isn't that easy.
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Posted by bubblebath
America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops

also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
yep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
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You take that back....


Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.
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Posted by CheVirgo
Posted by tcta
Posted by CheVirgo
Most cops in America have Irish and Italian heritage. Let that sink in.
and they are dick hicks and these are the only jobs they can do with their limited ability for education
When I was in the military I had an Irish racist chief who told my Tibetan friend " I hope you don't eat spiders I know how you asian motherfuckers are ". I know for a fact white peole use the word nigger 10 times more than black people in public or private. It's just the way they are and wonder why some blacks or Spanish people are not attracted to them or keep their distance from them.
People can be racist all they want.

Its when Cops whose salaries are paid by tax payers start slaughtering people of color without provocation is when we have a problem.

And the system protects them. The two officers are on paid leave (aka vacation) while this is investigated. The police are withholding the body cam footage...

No justice will be served.
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Almost feels like their doing it just so they can get a paid leave...but i don't know I'm just a kid. Right
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Posted by bubblebath
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Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


sheet
Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
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How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
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Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!!


On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting.

On Sunday, shortly before 9 a.m., Lyles called 911 to report a break-in and told the operator that her door was open and that "there's stuff missing," from her home. She told him that she had left about two to three hours ago and when she came back, the door was open.

The hallway video from her apartment showed Lyles leaving and entering, but didn't show anyone else going inside her unit.

Two police officers, identified as Steven McNew and Jason Anderson, responded to her call.

They arrived to her apartment knowing of a previous incident she had with police earlier in the month. She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.

The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.

Three children were in the apartment at the time of the shooting, police said.

"When we call police for help, we expect protection. We expect safety. It was their responsibility to protect her and they didn't," James Bible, an attorney representing family members of Lyles, told CNN affiliate KIRO.

Both officers were equipped with less lethal force options, police said.

McNew and Anderson are currently on paid administrative leave while the shooting is under investigation.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/us/seattle-police-shooting-charleena-lyles-protest/index.html
I believe when the story first broke, one cop told the other to use a taser, but neither had one available. I'm willing to wait and see how this fleshes out before I give judgement.
According to the press release that the cops put out they both were equipped with 'less lethal force options'. 0 excuses for this fuckery.
A known crazy lady (with a weird history) coming at me with some kind of weapon is going to get two in the chest. If the investigation proves one or both are in the wrong, hang'em. Not enough information yet to get a full picture.

Pregnant women are dangerous too sometimes. Time will tell.
She wasn't armed. The shears incident happened on the 5th. Read more carefully.

Shooting an unarmed pregnant woman 5 times in front of her children is justified to you?? I can't think of any scenario that makes that justified...

She called them for HELP. They shot her dead. Where is the grey area here???!!!

I did read what you've posted. My point is: give it some more time. Humans don't start pulling out of a room with a gun drawn unless they are hesitating to shoot as much as possible.

She did call for help, but things quickly went downhill and here we are.

If it is found out that they fucked up, they will be prosecuted. A jury will decide at that point.
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Your smoking dick if you believe that shit your dropping out of your mouth!
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Posted by bubblebath
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by bubblebath
Posted by CaramelizedCoffee
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


sheet
Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
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I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
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Just talking about unarmed African Americans in any given year alone

it's more like hundreds... ( more like 1-4 a week)

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/unarmed/


if you include unarmed poor whites

latina/os

the number is much higher.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
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Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
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Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
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Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
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America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops

also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
yep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
You take that back....


Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.
A United States under Britain would have formed its own government anyway, likely as a Constitutional Monarchy.
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That's a different what-if scenario that's not applicable to the point I'm making.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
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It's not just about physical numbers it's more about probability due to

socioeconomic status and race.

It shouldn't matter if it's one loss life or many....

You can not and should not quantify grief based on a number of lives lost.



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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
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@Ssuperman

And keep in mind that the same police that kill are the ones 'investigating' the incident. The number of unarmed black people murdered is probably much larger. The 102 were the ones that couldn't be proven otherwise even with tampering/withholding of evidence.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
It's not just about physical numbers it's more about probability due to

socioeconomic status and race.

It shouldn't matter if it's one loss life or many....

You can not and should not quantify grief based on a number of lives lost.



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Couldn't agree more. That's why I brought up altercations. Statistically there are more whites so there will be more altercations and more dead
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
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Link your sources.
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Wow! US police are dangerously trigger happy.
That's the way it should be. Ever see a small hanful of the American people?

When something has gone completely haywire beyond repair you have to put it down.

That's why it's a positive thing humans get old and die.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
Link your sources.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
At least you admit they were "murdered"
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Of course they were
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
It's not just about physical numbers it's more about probability due to

socioeconomic status and race.

It shouldn't matter if it's one loss life or many....

You can not and should not quantify grief based on a number of lives lost.



Couldn't agree more. That's why I brought up altercations. Statistically, there are more whites so there will be more altercations and more dead
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Adjusting for socioeconomic status...they aren't though.

That just part of the issue.

I will say there is a higher number of poor white people than any other demographic in this country

but they aren't killed as much during altercations especially when they are armed.

Poor white people aren't AS* demonized as African Americans or Latino/as by media representation.

Poor white people and the conditions they face ( lack infrastructural support, education, economic opportunities, access to clean water and hunger) aren't really acknowledged at all...


I don't believe the majority of these police officers are intentionally trying to eradicate minorities

but more so that suffer from a paranoia that is rooted is unconscious racist beliefs that they have.Moreover these beliefs are often fostered by media representation.

Think about domestic terrorism and the language used to describe poor white men

vs the very few incidents in which domestic terrorism was carried out by a person of color.

Also think about the outcomes. In a large percentage in which the assailant was a poor white man

who was armed and actually killed someone...the police were STILL somehow able to arrest them without killing them.

Dylan Roof even got Burger King because he was hungry after evading the police for serval days because he had killed several black people who were attending Bible study.

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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


sheet
Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
Link your sources.
Ask him about how he assaulted two police officers and didn't die in the process.. Or even go to prison.
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I've heard this story.
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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
Link your sources.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
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Daily wire pushes a conservatist agenda.
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America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops

also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
yep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
You take that back....


Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.
A United States under Britain would have formed its own government anyway, likely as a Constitutional Monarchy.
That's a different what-if scenario that's not applicable to the point I'm making.
But they very likely wouldn't have been "ruled" in the way you suggest. I know the point you were trying to make, and it isn't applicable. They would have been ruled by their *own people* (though still requiring Crown assent for certain legislation), except they wouldn't have been revolutionaries.
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What is the point I was trying to make?

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LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US

but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them


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Canada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact

but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
Americans fear the police.
then why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not all
watch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.
I'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%
Wow where are you getting those numbers from??

According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
How many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?
I would have to read through each incident to know.

According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.

102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.

https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
Ok, out of how many altercations with police though?
Define altercation?

I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Did you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?

Only 26% were black
Link your sources.
http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler
Daily wire pushes a conservatist agenda.
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Who cares? They're quoting FACTS here