Police shoot and kill pregnant black mother of four who called them for help regarding a break in...
Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!! On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting. On Sunday, shortly be...
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Posted by seraphYou have no idea what my point is dude. Because what you said in response was completely irrelevant.Posted by cornmaizesharkYour point is exactly as you wrote it, word for word. There are no lines to read in-between. To your credit it's at least simple, but for the fact that it's juvenile nonsense. I can't really blame you, though; there wasn't any other way to say it, once you paint yourself into a corner like that.Posted by seraphWhat is the point I was trying to make?Posted by cornmaizesharkBut they very likely wouldn't have been "ruled" in the way you suggest. I know the point you were trying to make, and it isn't applicable. They would have been ruled by their *own people* (though still requiring Crown assent for certain legislation), except they wouldn't have been revolutionaries.Posted by seraphThat's a different what-if scenario that's not applicable to the point I'm making.Posted by cornmaizesharkA United States under Britain would have formed its own government anyway, likely as a Constitutional Monarchy.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou take that back....Posted by bubblebathyep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops
also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.click to expand
Juvenile? jfc.
#tryhard
God bless America?
The land full of hate.
The land full of hate.
Posted by seraphThe point is that it was a joke. Get over yourselfPosted by cornmaizeshark"Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents."Posted by seraphYou have no idea what my point is dude. Because what you said in response was completely irrelevant.Posted by cornmaizesharkYour point is exactly as you wrote it, word for word. There are no lines to read in-between. To your credit it's at least simple, but for the fact that it's juvenile nonsense. I can't really blame you, though; there wasn't any other way to say it, once you paint yourself into a corner like that.Posted by seraphWhat is the point I was trying to make?Posted by cornmaizesharkBut they very likely wouldn't have been "ruled" in the way you suggest. I know the point you were trying to make, and it isn't applicable. They would have been ruled by their *own people* (though still requiring Crown assent for certain legislation), except they wouldn't have been revolutionaries.Posted by seraphThat's a different what-if scenario that's not applicable to the point I'm making.Posted by cornmaizesharkA United States under Britain would have formed its own government anyway, likely as a Constitutional Monarchy.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou take that back....Posted by bubblebathyep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops
also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.
It's self-evident, though. How would she feel having had to answer to people that you've belittled, etc.
And once again, it doesn't even apply, for reasons already mentioned.
If there was some other point you were trying to make that I didn't catch, you're welcome to explain. You did say you had one.click to expand
Posted by seraphlol ok dude, sure. Explain back to me what it is I'm trying to do here.Posted by cornmaizesharkBut it wasn't even funny. I know what you were trying to do, you don't need to stall by having me explain it back to you. It's just cheap, and it lowers the property value of whatever you're trying to contribute, dxp or not.Posted by seraphThe point is that it was a joke. Get over yourselfPosted by cornmaizeshark"Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents."Posted by seraphYou have no idea what my point is dude. Because what you said in response was completely irrelevant.Posted by cornmaizesharkYour point is exactly as you wrote it, word for word. There are no lines to read in-between. To your credit it's at least simple, but for the fact that it's juvenile nonsense. I can't really blame you, though; there wasn't any other way to say it, once you paint yourself into a corner like that.Posted by seraphWhat is the point I was trying to make?Posted by cornmaizesharkBut they very likely wouldn't have been "ruled" in the way you suggest. I know the point you were trying to make, and it isn't applicable. They would have been ruled by their *own people* (though still requiring Crown assent for certain legislation), except they wouldn't have been revolutionaries.Posted by seraphThat's a different what-if scenario that's not applicable to the point I'm making.Posted by cornmaizesharkA United States under Britain would have formed its own government anyway, likely as a Constitutional Monarchy.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYou take that back....Posted by bubblebathyep, wish we never won the war against the arrogant British.
America's cops are so corrupt, no wonder people don't have as much respect for them tbh. went to new york to visit family, and there were posters around fining people who shot cops
also with your guys gun laws, the system is messed up. if you didn't have this problem, you guys can blame your gun laws.
Or you think long and hard how you'd feel being ruled by what has been voted the ugliest country in the world, where the men are about 5'5 on average and they all speak with "posh" accents.
It's self-evident, though. How would she feel having had to answer to people that you've belittled, etc.
And once again, it doesn't even apply, for reasons already mentioned.
If there was some other point you were trying to make that I didn't catch, you're welcome to explain. You did say you had one.click to expand
Posted by tctaThey are supposed to be trained to deescalate, yet when it comes to black people that goes out the window.
Not sure why they didn't just shoot her in the leg or something to stop her from advancing with a weapon - there was no reason to kill her if she could be stopped. Now there are 2 dead and 4 children homeless.
Posted by TheLibraMudra
This happened in my area.
Mixed emotions. Yea, they didnt need to shoot her dead. Yea, she was crazy. The kids suffer the most.
How do you know she was crazy?
Posted by WarAngel1Given the history of non convictions with these types of crimes how can you confidently say they will be prosecuted.Posted by LadyNeptuneI did read what you've posted. My point is: give it some more time. Humans don't start pulling out of a room with a gun drawn unless they are hesitating to shoot as much as possible.Posted by WarAngel1She wasn't armed. The shears incident happened on the 5th. Read more carefully.Posted by LadyNeptuneA known crazy lady (with a weird history) coming at me with some kind of weapon is going to get two in the chest. If the investigation proves one or both are in the wrong, hang'em. Not enough information yet to get a full picture.Posted by WarAngel1According to the press release that the cops put out they both were equipped with 'less lethal force options'. 0 excuses for this fuckery.Posted by LadyNeptuneI believe when the story first broke, one cop told the other to use a taser, but neither had one available. I'm willing to wait and see how this fleshes out before I give judgement.
Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!!
On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting.
On Sunday, shortly before 9 a.m., Lyles called 911 to report a break-in and told the operator that her door was open and that "there's stuff missing," from her home. She told him that she had left about two to three hours ago and when she came back, the door was open.
The hallway video from her apartment showed Lyles leaving and entering, but didn't show anyone else going inside her unit.
Two police officers, identified as Steven McNew and Jason Anderson, responded to her call.
They arrived to her apartment knowing of a previous incident she had with police earlier in the month. She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.
The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
Three children were in the apartment at the time of the shooting, police said.
"When we call police for help, we expect protection. We expect safety. It was their responsibility to protect her and they didn't," James Bible, an attorney representing family members of Lyles, told CNN affiliate KIRO.
Both officers were equipped with less lethal force options, police said.
McNew and Anderson are currently on paid administrative leave while the shooting is under investigation.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/us/seattle-police-shooting-charleena-lyles-protest/index.html
Pregnant women are dangerous too sometimes. Time will tell.
Shooting an unarmed pregnant woman 5 times in front of her children is justified to you?? I can't think of any scenario that makes that justified...
She called them for HELP. They shot her dead. Where is the grey area here???!!!
She did call for help, but things quickly went downhill and here we are.
If it is found out that they fucked up, they will be prosecuted. A jury will decide at that point.click to expand
Based on past precedence I would say that they won't be prosecuted. No justice will be served.
What are you talking about?? Stop while your ahead. Stop talking.
Posted by TheTinManStop making excusesPosted by LadyNeptuneok so they repeatedly told her to get back and they blasted her. it is totally fucked up what they did and no they had no f'ing right to do that. still besides the point tho. she should have just obeyed them and stayed put. but nooo she had to keep coming. but still doesn't give them the right to shoot her dead especially if she was unarmed. just goes to show that cops today are a bunch of pussies to shoot and kill an unarm pregnant woman. fucking pathetic.Posted by TheTinManRead the op. Until then shut up.Posted by LadyNeptunemy question is why they shot her? did she advance them with knives? look I'm just going by what I'm reading from p Angel. I know she probably wrong and probably assuming that's what you or the press said. for now that's the only information there is to go by until I click on that link and read the whole story.Posted by TheTinManPeople can't read.
why the fuck was she threatening the officers for? what was her reasoning for her with knives? she should know these crooked cops gone shoot her thinking their lives in danger. if that theory is true she the one had that coming.
The incident with the pruning shears is completely separate incidents. She called the cops for help. They shot her dead with her kids in the house.click to expand
She was unarmed point blank period. If it were white skin you think they would be dead??
Posted by WarAngel1Move around. You don't belong here.
Meh, some of you folks have already made up your minds from the get go. I remain to be surprised.
Posted by TheLibraMudraYou believe anything the media or police say. You don't belong here either. Beat it.Posted by bkbella86lol.Posted by TheLibraMudra
This happened in my area.
Mixed emotions. Yea, they didnt need to shoot her dead. Yea, she was crazy. The kids suffer the most.
How do you know she was crazy?click to expand
Posted by WarAngel1Seem to think?Posted by bkbella86You seem to believe they won't be prosecuted. I say with recent events and people's eyes being opened to police procedures, I think they will if they are accused of a crime.Posted by WarAngel1Given the history of non convictions with these types of crimes how can you confidently say they will be prosecuted.Posted by LadyNeptuneI did read what you've posted. My point is: give it some more time. Humans don't start pulling out of a room with a gun drawn unless they are hesitating to shoot as much as possible.Posted by WarAngel1She wasn't armed. The shears incident happened on the 5th. Read more carefully.Posted by LadyNeptuneA known crazy lady (with a weird history) coming at me with some kind of weapon is going to get two in the chest. If the investigation proves one or both are in the wrong, hang'em. Not enough information yet to get a full picture.Posted by WarAngel1According to the press release that the cops put out they both were equipped with 'less lethal force options'. 0 excuses for this fuckery.Posted by LadyNeptuneI believe when the story first broke, one cop told the other to use a taser, but neither had one available. I'm willing to wait and see how this fleshes out before I give judgement.
Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!!
On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting.
On Sunday, shortly before 9 a.m., Lyles called 911 to report a break-in and told the operator that her door was open and that "there's stuff missing," from her home. She told him that she had left about two to three hours ago and when she came back, the door was open.
The hallway video from her apartment showed Lyles leaving and entering, but didn't show anyone else going inside her unit.
Two police officers, identified as Steven McNew and Jason Anderson, responded to her call.
They arrived to her apartment knowing of a previous incident she had with police earlier in the month. She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.
The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
Three children were in the apartment at the time of the shooting, police said.
"When we call police for help, we expect protection. We expect safety. It was their responsibility to protect her and they didn't," James Bible, an attorney representing family members of Lyles, told CNN affiliate KIRO.
Both officers were equipped with less lethal force options, police said.
McNew and Anderson are currently on paid administrative leave while the shooting is under investigation.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/us/seattle-police-shooting-charleena-lyles-protest/index.html
Pregnant women are dangerous too sometimes. Time will tell.
Shooting an unarmed pregnant woman 5 times in front of her children is justified to you?? I can't think of any scenario that makes that justified...
She called them for HELP. They shot her dead. Where is the grey area here???!!!
She did call for help, but things quickly went downhill and here we are.
If it is found out that they fucked up, they will be prosecuted. A jury will decide at that point.
Based on past precedence I would say that they won't be prosecuted. No justice will be served.
What are you talking about?? Stop while your ahead. Stop talking.
If they are prosecuted, they will never be cops again regardless. If they were not found at fault being tried by a jury of their peers, would you still hold it against them?
I think justice will be served, eventually. Even if you do or don't approve of the eventual outcome.click to expand
I don't care if a jury finds them innocent as if the American justice system is a just one. It means nothing. There are many innocent people in jail and guilty people who are free. The system consist of people, humans. And they make mistakes.
Posted by WarAngel1You need to watch thisPosted by bkbella86You seem to believe they won't be prosecuted. I say with recent events and people's eyes being opened to police procedures, I think they will if they are accused of a crime.Posted by WarAngel1Given the history of non convictions with these types of crimes how can you confidently say they will be prosecuted.Posted by LadyNeptuneI did read what you've posted. My point is: give it some more time. Humans don't start pulling out of a room with a gun drawn unless they are hesitating to shoot as much as possible.Posted by WarAngel1She wasn't armed. The shears incident happened on the 5th. Read more carefully.Posted by LadyNeptuneA known crazy lady (with a weird history) coming at me with some kind of weapon is going to get two in the chest. If the investigation proves one or both are in the wrong, hang'em. Not enough information yet to get a full picture.Posted by WarAngel1According to the press release that the cops put out they both were equipped with 'less lethal force options'. 0 excuses for this fuckery.Posted by LadyNeptuneI believe when the story first broke, one cop told the other to use a taser, but neither had one available. I'm willing to wait and see how this fleshes out before I give judgement.
Once again trigger happy police gun down a person of color... When will this end!!!
On Thursday, Seattle police released Lyles' 911 call and a video recording from her hallway, showing the 24 hours leading up to the shooting.
On Sunday, shortly before 9 a.m., Lyles called 911 to report a break-in and told the operator that her door was open and that "there's stuff missing," from her home. She told him that she had left about two to three hours ago and when she came back, the door was open.
The hallway video from her apartment showed Lyles leaving and entering, but didn't show anyone else going inside her unit.
Two police officers, identified as Steven McNew and Jason Anderson, responded to her call.
They arrived to her apartment knowing of a previous incident she had with police earlier in the month. She had been arrested and charged with obstruction of a public officer and harassment of a law enforcement officer on June 5. That police report described Lyles as having "armed herself with a pair of extra long metal shears" and that she had been "threatening the officers." She was released conditionally June 14.
The encounter between the officers and Lyles started calmly as heard in an audio recording. But it suddenly escalated with the officers saying "get back" repeatedly. Shots were heard in the audio.
Three children were in the apartment at the time of the shooting, police said.
"When we call police for help, we expect protection. We expect safety. It was their responsibility to protect her and they didn't," James Bible, an attorney representing family members of Lyles, told CNN affiliate KIRO.
Both officers were equipped with less lethal force options, police said.
McNew and Anderson are currently on paid administrative leave while the shooting is under investigation.
http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/23/us/seattle-police-shooting-charleena-lyles-protest/index.html
Pregnant women are dangerous too sometimes. Time will tell.
Shooting an unarmed pregnant woman 5 times in front of her children is justified to you?? I can't think of any scenario that makes that justified...
She called them for HELP. They shot her dead. Where is the grey area here???!!!
She did call for help, but things quickly went downhill and here we are.
If it is found out that they fucked up, they will be prosecuted. A jury will decide at that point.
Based on past precedence I would say that they won't be prosecuted. No justice will be served.
What are you talking about?? Stop while your ahead. Stop talking.
If they are prosecuted, they will never be cops again regardless. If they were not found at fault being tried by a jury of their peers, would you still hold it against them?
I think justice will be served, eventually. Even if you do or don't approve of the eventual outcome.click to expand
Posted by TheLibraMudraYou're making things up to suit your agenda.Posted by bkbella86Do you call the police and threaten them with shears? With kids in your house? Get released then do it again with a knife?Posted by TheLibraMudraYou believe anything the media or police say. You don't belong here either. Beat it.Posted by bkbella86lol.Posted by TheLibraMudra
This happened in my area.
Mixed emotions. Yea, they didnt need to shoot her dead. Yea, she was crazy. The kids suffer the most.
How do you know she was crazy?
Fuck right off.
She shouldn't have been shot dead. Perhaps tazed in the face? Whatever. She is lucky she even had custody of her kids with that behavior.click to expand
You fuck off bitch. You're not qualified to discuss this. Dummy.
Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYes, it is. Gotta look at the confrontation rate as well though. 60% of violent crime is committed by blacks. That means the confrontation % will triple. That puts the chance even.Posted by Ssupermandid you know the US population of blacks is 12% so 26% deaths is huge!!!Posted by LadyNeptuneDid you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?Posted by SsupermanDefine altercation?Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, out of how many altercations with police though?Posted by SsupermanI would have to read through each incident to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneHow many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?Posted by SsupermanWow where are you getting those numbers from??Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%Posted by bubblebathwatch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.Posted by LadyNeptunethen why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not allPosted by bubblebathAmericans fear the police.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeCanada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US
but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them
sheet
but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.
102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Only 26% were blackclick to expand
Posted by Lala1393Hundreds though. Many white people the majority are not racist. So why don't they protest? If there was a nationwide strike. This would stop.Posted by CheVirgoNot thousands...
This is similar to lynching blacks and leaving the body so the other negroes wont retaliate against their slave masters. It's psychological warfare thats been going on for thousands of years.click to expand
Posted by SsupermanI don't think crime statistics should be allowed report the race or gender of criminals.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYes, it is. Gotta look at the confrontation rate as well though. 60% of violent crime is committed by blacks. That means the confrontation % will triple. That puts the chance even.Posted by Ssupermandid you know the US population of blacks is 12% so 26% deaths is huge!!!Posted by LadyNeptuneDid you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?Posted by SsupermanDefine altercation?Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, out of how many altercations with police though?Posted by SsupermanI would have to read through each incident to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneHow many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?Posted by SsupermanWow where are you getting those numbers from??Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%Posted by bubblebathwatch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.Posted by LadyNeptunethen why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not allPosted by bubblebathAmericans fear the police.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeCanada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US
but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them
sheet
but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.
102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Only 26% were blackclick to expand
Posted by MagicMonaWhatever the stats ..melanin is not an indicator of character. It's not a character trait. Dark skin means nothing culturally and despite what CC says being white skinned does not indicate anything about your character either.Posted by SsupermanTo be honest, more whites have committed and continue to commit the worst and most crimes. We all know the media just does not report them. But everything blacks and other colored people do will always be scrutinized and put under a microscope.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYes, it is. Gotta look at the confrontation rate as well though. 60% of violent crime is committed by blacks. That means the confrontation % will triple. That puts the chance even.Posted by Ssupermandid you know the US population of blacks is 12% so 26% deaths is huge!!!Posted by LadyNeptuneDid you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?Posted by SsupermanDefine altercation?Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, out of how many altercations with police though?Posted by SsupermanI would have to read through each incident to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneHow many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?Posted by SsupermanWow where are you getting those numbers from??Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%Posted by bubblebathwatch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.Posted by LadyNeptunethen why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not allPosted by bubblebathAmericans fear the police.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeCanada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US
but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them
sheet
but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.
102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Only 26% were black
A 12 year old colored boy plays cops and robbers in the park with a toy gun = a group of police shooting him dead without so much of a word. White man with a real gun goes crazy and holds up traffic, threatening to kill others = police spend hours negotiating with him until they finally took him down with one shot to the leg, and gave him hospital treatment. Crime is prominent in black areas due to poverty and them having to struggle to survive. I could see if they owned everything and were evil bastards trying to keep everyone else down, but they aren't. Police isn't the answer to their unrest, jobs and equal opportunity is.click to expand
Posted by MagicMonaWell, I can't disagree with you on that. There are lots of ways to get money without committing crime to get it. That's the lazy way, quick way.Posted by SsupermanTo be honest, more whites have committed and continue to commit the worst and most crimes. We all know the media just does not report them. But everything blacks and other colored people do will always be scrutinized and put under a microscope.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYes, it is. Gotta look at the confrontation rate as well though. 60% of violent crime is committed by blacks. That means the confrontation % will triple. That puts the chance even.Posted by Ssupermandid you know the US population of blacks is 12% so 26% deaths is huge!!!Posted by LadyNeptuneDid you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?Posted by SsupermanDefine altercation?Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, out of how many altercations with police though?Posted by SsupermanI would have to read through each incident to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneHow many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?Posted by SsupermanWow where are you getting those numbers from??Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%Posted by bubblebathwatch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.Posted by LadyNeptunethen why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not allPosted by bubblebathAmericans fear the police.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeCanada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US
but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them
sheet
but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.
102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Only 26% were black
A 12 year old colored boy plays cops and robbers in the park with a toy gun = a group of police shooting him dead without so much of a word. White man with a real gun goes crazy and holds up traffic, threatening to kill others = police spend hours negotiating with him until they finally took him down with one shot to the leg, and gave him hospital treatment. Crime is prominent in black areas due to poverty and them having to struggle to survive. I could see if they owned everything and were evil bastards trying to keep everyone else down, but they aren't. Police isn't the answer to their unrest, jobs and equal opportunity is.click to expand
Blacks use drugs at the same or a lesser rate than Whites even though they are more likely than Whites to be arrested for drug use. This, is strong evidence of bias in the justice system.
They use drugs no more than whites do but are more likely to be incarnated for it.
Posted by SsupermanIf you are white wear a suit and have a good lawyer. You can get away with committing a crime for money. They don't call it crime then.Posted by MagicMonaWell, I can't disagree with you on that. There are lots of ways to get money without committing crime to get it. That's the lazy way, quick way.Posted by SsupermanTo be honest, more whites have committed and continue to commit the worst and most crimes. We all know the media just does not report them. But everything blacks and other colored people do will always be scrutinized and put under a microscope.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeYes, it is. Gotta look at the confrontation rate as well though. 60% of violent crime is committed by blacks. That means the confrontation % will triple. That puts the chance even.Posted by Ssupermandid you know the US population of blacks is 12% so 26% deaths is huge!!!Posted by LadyNeptuneDid you even know that in 2015 50% of people murdered by police were WHITE?Posted by SsupermanDefine altercation?Posted by LadyNeptuneOk, out of how many altercations with police though?Posted by SsupermanI would have to read through each incident to know.Posted by LadyNeptuneHow many of those were black? And how many were in an altercation with police?Posted by SsupermanWow where are you getting those numbers from??Posted by LadyNeptuneI'd say the odds are very low. Hundreds of thousands get pulled over each year. How many get gunned down? 2-3 a year? That's less than .02%Posted by bubblebathwatch some of the videos posted in this thread. The point is black people are gunned down whether or not they are cooperating. So even if you lay on the ground with your hands in the air not resisting, the police will still shoot you.Posted by LadyNeptunethen why would they pick fights with cops or not listen to them. maybe some do. not allPosted by bubblebathAmericans fear the police.Posted by CaramelizedCoffeeCanada doesnt have the problems with cops because our gun laws, people here have respect and actually fear cops that's one difference that made a huge impact
LOok at how PEACEFUL CANADA is. That could have been US
but no we got dumb laws that keeps this country very violent and trigger happy cops cause they think everyone trying to kill them
sheet
but for sure America was fucked when they decided that slavery and using gun as defence would be a good idea. if you didn't have guns, there wouldn't be a need to have protect yourself from other people with guns
According to homicide.latimes.com 48 people were killed by police in the last year in my city.
According to this site police killed 309 black people in 2016. 142 so far this year.
102 unarmed black people murdered by police in 2015. That's 2 per week.
https://mappingpoliceviolence.org
I don't see how anyone should be shot if they are unarmed. Even if they are resisting arrest. That's what tasers and handcuffs are for.
Only 26% were black
A 12 year old colored boy plays cops and robbers in the park with a toy gun = a group of police shooting him dead without so much of a word. White man with a real gun goes crazy and holds up traffic, threatening to kill others = police spend hours negotiating with him until they finally took him down with one shot to the leg, and gave him hospital treatment. Crime is prominent in black areas due to poverty and them having to struggle to survive. I could see if they owned everything and were evil bastards trying to keep everyone else down, but they aren't. Police isn't the answer to their unrest, jobs and equal opportunity is.click to expand
Posted by LittleFairyWhite parents will protect their kids if they get into trouble early. Steer them right ...
Blacks use drugs at the same or a lesser rate than Whites even though they are more likely than Whites to be arrested for drug use. This, is strong evidence of bias in the justice system.
They use drugs no more than whites do but are more likely to be incarnated for it.
Black kids will be arrested ...even simply things like DUI or drunken arrests ..and there is more bias for black people with a record ..and lets face it ...prison is a school for crime.
Sending a young person to prison is stupid unless it's like murder.
If they were easier on black youths and gave them a chance to change ..like no record ..it would be better.
In the cold light of day. Pregnant woman ..shot ...you have to be pretty cold to do that. Pregnant..female ..i mean how strong could she be.
And of course they are going to say she had shears ..I don't believe them...if i had shot a pregnant woman you better believe i would lie about it too ...i would lie to myself even.
And of course they are going to say she had shears ..I don't believe them...if i had shot a pregnant woman you better believe i would lie about it too ...i would lie to myself even.
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