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Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by Black-MambaPosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by Black-MambaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _Dazed
Elle and Supes keep mentioning supplemental services.
2018 Poverty rate for US: 14.1%
2018 SPM rate for the US: 12.8%
For those that do not know, the SPM (Supplemental Poverty Measure) was implemented with the intent to extend the official poverty measure by taking account of many of the government programs designed to assist low-income families and individuals that are not included in the official poverty measure.
According to the global poverty measure.....
If you have access to education, food....etc
You ain’t in poverty
From your source..
"In the United States, 12.3% of the population, or 39.7 million people, live in poverty — with an inco8me of less than $ 33.26 per day — according to the 2017 census."
However, those same people have access to education, vaccines, food and govt assistance to pull them off that poverty line
It doesn’t pull them out of poverty it simply maintains them to keeps them housed and fed and clothed.
As soon as you make enough to barely get by you no longer qualify for aid in most cases. So it’s better to remain poor if you can’t make a huge leap up. In most cases that isn’t possible.
Lets say you get a job- which doesn't really cover much, but its above what you should be earning to get medicaid, what do you do, give up the job or the insurance that is saving your life
this is how america works
Yes, this is how America works and it is designed that way on purpose. Wealthy America thrives when there is a balance between classes.
That balances gets out of whack, the wealthy panic. Look at how they are scrambling now with Covid. GET BACK TO FUCKING WORK MIDDLE CLASS I DONT CARE IF HALF OF YOU DIE, WE WILL replace YOU WITH THE POOR AND BRING IN MORE POOR.
It is no different than the class system in Europe, Caste system in Asia and Tribalism in Africa.
However, still not poverty. Still.means.poor.
I get your point. its on purpose. it's disgusting.
Thanks to the Democrats who put all this into law. That’s right. Democratic law enables this
That is bullshit. All politicians contribute to this. It is not a one party design.
Nope. 100% Democrats and they keep trying to add to it
That is a myth. Carry on.
FDR created both Social Security and National Welfareclick to expand


Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilitiesclick to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by Black-MambaPosted by MrsElleCappysnatchPosted by Black-MambaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _Dazed
Elle and Supes keep mentioning supplemental services.
2018 Poverty rate for US: 14.1%
2018 SPM rate for the US: 12.8%
For those that do not know, the SPM (Supplemental Poverty Measure) was implemented with the intent to extend the official poverty measure by taking account of many of the government programs designed to assist low-income families and individuals that are not included in the official poverty measure.
According to the global poverty measure.....
If you have access to education, food....etc
You ain’t in poverty
From your source..
"In the United States, 12.3% of the population, or 39.7 million people, live in poverty — with an inco8me of less than $ 33.26 per day — according to the 2017 census."
However, those same people have access to education, vaccines, food and govt assistance to pull them off that poverty line
It doesn’t pull them out of poverty it simply maintains them to keeps them housed and fed and clothed.
As soon as you make enough to barely get by you no longer qualify for aid in most cases. So it’s better to remain poor if you can’t make a huge leap up. In most cases that isn’t possible.
Lets say you get a job- which doesn't really cover much, but its above what you should be earning to get medicaid, what do you do, give up the job or the insurance that is saving your life
this is how america works
Yes, this is how America works and it is designed that way on purpose. Wealthy America thrives when there is a balance between classes.
That balances gets out of whack, the wealthy panic. Look at how they are scrambling now with Covid. GET BACK TO FUCKING WORK MIDDLE CLASS I DONT CARE IF HALF OF YOU DIE, WE WILL replace YOU WITH THE POOR AND BRING IN MORE POOR.
It is no different than the class system in Europe, Caste system in Asia and Tribalism in Africa.
However, still not poverty. Still.means.poor.
I get your point. its on purpose. it's disgusting.
Thanks to the Democrats who put all this into law. That’s right. Democratic law enables this
That is bullshit. All politicians contribute to this. It is not a one party design.
Nope. 100% Democrats and they keep trying to add to it
That is a myth. Carry on.
FDR created both Social Security and National Welfare
81 of 102 Republicans voted for SSI in the house.
16 of 25 Republicans voted for SSI in the Senate.
Who called for it?
That’s right, FDR HIMSELFclick to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020
But how many of those are above the poverty line?
Who knows. But by those numbers I posted.......100% .......not 2% like you tried to BS... with regard to the poverty get benefitsclick to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE canclick to expand

Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THIS WAS REDUNDANT———?click to expand

Posted by nikkistarPosted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THIS WAS REDUNDANT———?
Asking what the definition of "poverty" is redundant.
Talking about how one can get out of a class, isn't.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I THOUGHT YOU SAID THIS WAS REDUNDANT———?
Asking what the definition of "poverty" is redundant.
Talking about how one can get out of a class, isn't.
YOU KNOW NOTHING JON SNOW!click to expand


Posted by Sith_RogenPosted by nikkistar
Once upon a time, I was poor. Not anymore. I drink tea from a cup with my pinky up now.
Fucking peasants!
Don't lie, you street urchin.click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I’ve never said it was easy or that others wouldn’t face certain and absolute hardship doing it. All I said was that it was possible for anyone who was completely dedicated to rising out. It IS possible even though your dude is saying it isn’t possibleclick to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I’ve never said it was easy or that others wouldn’t face certain and absolute hardship doing it. All I said was that it was possible for anyone who was completely dedicated to rising out. It IS possible even though your dude is saying it isn’t possibleclick to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020
But how many of those are above the poverty line?
Who knows. But by those numbers I posted.......100% .......not 2% like you tried to BS... with regard to the poverty get benefits
Not according to your ORIGINAL source that differentiates between poverty and those in poverty receiving supplements.
You post conflicting sources, from different years.. just to right fight.
You're like ScorpioFish sourcing the CDC to prove homosexuals are more likely to experience domestic abuse, but also believe the CDC is not to be trusted because you think COVID-19 is a hoax.
You pick an choose what ever source fits your agenda.
How? I posted 1 source. The same source you’re trying to use to twist and bend into your logicclick to expand


Posted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I’ve never said it was easy or that others wouldn’t face certain and absolute hardship doing it. All I said was that it was possible for anyone who was completely dedicated to rising out. It IS possible even though your dude is saying it isn’t possible
He isn't saying it isn't possible. He is questioning you saying that it is 100% possible with no room for error, except for disabled persons.
What does the word CANT mean?click to expand

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.click to expand

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by Black-MambaPosted by nikkistarPosted by Black-MambaPosted by nikkistarPosted by Black-MambaPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
but how about not having the luxury to get medical care when you need it?
That's a moot question, and redundant again for the people that are posting on this site. We don't know what true poverty is anymore. We don't come from a 3rd world country. We don't have to worry where our next meal comes from.
False. There's plenty of Black people in AMerica who are dying from Covid-19 who can access the internet and have electricity yet are unable to get treatment from medical facilities.
We are not discussing COVID. We are discussing poverty.
Health care in the US is a for profit industry, that in of itself is so flawed and gross. But that is for another topic.
What is poverty? Please explain it to me. Cause I feel i see more poverty in America than I do in my birth country., which is classified 3rd world country
I wouldn't know what poverty is, because I have never been impoverish. That would be something my mom could relay, not I.
You can see poverty without coming from that place.click to expand

Posted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.click to expand

Posted by Sith_RogenPosted by nikkistarPosted by Sith_RogenPosted by nikkistar
Once upon a time, I was poor. Not anymore. I drink tea from a cup with my pinky up now.
Fucking peasants!
Don't lie, you street urchin.
Bitch, I didn't smuggle all those unwanted Chinese kids out to keep my sweatshops and massage parlors going for nothing.
Your dad was a janitor and you work at the Boost Mobile kiosk in the mall.click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I’ve never said it was easy or that others wouldn’t face certain and absolute hardship doing it. All I said was that it was possible for anyone who was completely dedicated to rising out. It IS possible even though your dude is saying it isn’t possible
He isn't saying it isn't possible. He is questioning you saying that it is 100% possible with no room for error, except for disabled persons.
What does the word CANT mean?click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _Dazed
Supes: "ANYONE can be more successful than their parents with the right decisions."
Also Supes: "Here's my source..."
"What is the cycle of poverty?
Poverty can be a trap. For someone to get out of poverty, they need opportunities such as an education, clean water, medical facilities nearby, and financial resources. Without these basic elements, poverty becomes a cycle from one generation to the next.
If families are too poor to send their children to school, their children will have a difficult time earning an income when they grow up. If a community lacks clean water, women will spend much of their day fetching water instead of earning an income. If medical facilities are far away, a parent loses income every time they take a sick child to the doctor.
Natural disasters and conflict can add to the cycle of poverty or add people to it . When a natural disaster strikes an impoverished community without functional public institutions, families are more vulnerable and often lack basic resources to recover, thus further entrenching a community in poverty or jeopardizing one that had recently emerged."
Literally the first sentence......
Poverty CAN be a trap
Thanks for validating my point bud
Not based on the decisions one makes. Point invalidated.
Yes, it is
Read your source.
You’re dancing in circles my dude
Many have made it out of poverty. If one can do it, all can do it. It’s NOT impossible
Your source says otherwise.
"The cycle of poverty".
Many have made it out. If one can, all can.
Goes back to the article CAN
It specifically states why folks CAN'T. Lists the reasons. If you fall into those categories, it's nearly impossible.. meaning not ALL CAN.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020
But how many of those are above the poverty line?
Who knows. But by those numbers I posted.......100% .......not 2% like you tried to BS... with regard to the poverty get benefits
Not according to your ORIGINAL source that differentiates between poverty and those in poverty receiving supplements.
You post conflicting sources, from different years.. just to right fight.
You're like ScorpioFish sourcing the CDC to prove homosexuals are more likely to experience domestic abuse, but also believe the CDC is not to be trusted because you think COVID-19 is a hoax.
You pick an choose what ever source fits your agenda.
How? I posted 1 source. The same source you’re trying to use to twist and bend into your logic
Source #1: https://www.worldvision.org/sponsorship-news-stories/global-poverty-facts#international-poverty-line
Source #2:
https://i.imgur.com/xwfaFpQ.png<div class="bqfade">click to expand

Posted by Aria1Posted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?
I'm curious why it seems people with addictions have no support?click to expand

Posted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
No, the discussion matters. But when it boils down to a bunch of people arguing over semantics about what country is impoverish and what isn't, it leads to nothing by a bunch of people arguing over what their own perceived definition is.
The majority of us on DXP aren't impoverish anymore. The majority of us, have many luxuries. It's just eyerolling to have a bunch of people sitting here arguing over something that, in truth, they don't live in anymore. At most, only see it in passing or on a television.
A real discussion is how to help those in impoverish areas come out on the other side, to join us. Not sitting here on an astrology website bickering about a definition of what they live in.click to expand

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
No, the discussion matters. But when it boils down to a bunch of people arguing over semantics about what country is impoverish and what isn't, it leads to nothing by a bunch of people arguing over what their own perceived definition is.
The majority of us on DXP aren't impoverish anymore. The majority of us, have many luxuries. It's just eyerolling to have a bunch of people sitting here arguing over something that, in truth, they don't live in anymore. At most, only see it in passing or on a television.
A real discussion is how to help those in impoverish areas come out on the other side, to join us. Not sitting here on an astrology website bickering about a definition of what they live in.
I think there has been some discussion of how that could be done.click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020
But how many of those are above the poverty line?
Who knows. But by those numbers I posted.......100% .......not 2% like you tried to BS... with regard to the poverty get benefits
Not according to your ORIGINAL source that differentiates between poverty and those in poverty receiving supplements.
You post conflicting sources, from different years.. just to right fight.
You're like ScorpioFish sourcing the CDC to prove homosexuals are more likely to experience domestic abuse, but also believe the CDC is not to be trusted because you think COVID-19 is a hoax.
You pick an choose what ever source fits your agenda.
How? I posted 1 source. The same source you’re trying to use to twist and bend into your logic
Source #1: https://www.worldvision.org/sponsorship-news-stories/global-poverty-facts#international-poverty-line
Source #2:
LOL
I like that he didn't even read the source. He just pulled the first clip he found on google.
Ofc I read it.click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
No, the discussion matters. But when it boils down to a bunch of people arguing over semantics about what country is impoverish and what isn't, it leads to nothing by a bunch of people arguing over what their own perceived definition is.
The majority of us on DXP aren't impoverish anymore. The majority of us, have many luxuries. It's just eyerolling to have a bunch of people sitting here arguing over something that, in truth, they don't live in anymore. At most, only see it in passing or on a television.
A real discussion is how to help those in impoverish areas come out on the other side, to join us. Not sitting here on an astrology website bickering about a definition of what they live in.
How can you help if you deny it doesn't exsist?click to expand

Posted by _DazedPosted by Aria1Posted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?
I'm curious why it seems people with addictions have no support?
The user that quote came from has me blocked, so it's unlikely we will ever know given she can't see this thread.click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by nikkistarPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
On a scale of 1 to 10..
Impossible is 1.
Nearly impossible is 2.
ALL CAN is 10.
Depends on their desire. I’d say 7 because of special circumstances regarding disabilities
So you're down to a 7 from ALL can.
Quit moving your own goalposts.
I said with the exception of persons with disabilities. If you want to remove those from the equation, then ANYONE can
At some point, you will need to acknowledge that socioeconomic comes into play.
While I do agree, that one has the ability to work to get out of their circumstances, much like my mother did. It is also a harder avenue than say someone who is raised in Pearland versus 5th ward Houston. Its comparing Apples to Oranges, and the path is a lot easier one way, versus the other.
Is it impossible? No. But it is MUCH more difficult, and can take longer time in order to progress. Most people that are able to break from the "mold" so to speak, are outliers.
I’ve never said it was easy or that others wouldn’t face certain and absolute hardship doing it. All I said was that it was possible for anyone who was completely dedicated to rising out. It IS possible even though your dude is saying it isn’t possible
He isn't saying it isn't possible. He is questioning you saying that it is 100% possible with no room for error, except for disabled persons.
What does the word CANT mean?
I did not see where he said can't. I do see where he questions you saying all, however.
Look closer. He definitely said CANT. And he did it with all capsclick to expand

Posted by Black-MambaPosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
No, the discussion matters. But when it boils down to a bunch of people arguing over semantics about what country is impoverish and what isn't, it leads to nothing by a bunch of people arguing over what their own perceived definition is.
The majority of us on DXP aren't impoverish anymore. The majority of us, have many luxuries. It's just eyerolling to have a bunch of people sitting here arguing over something that, in truth, they don't live in anymore. At most, only see it in passing or on a television.
A real discussion is how to help those in impoverish areas come out on the other side, to join us. Not sitting here on an astrology website bickering about a definition of what they live in.
I have a small part of MY PAYCHECK GOING TO FOODBANKS IN AMERICA EVERY MONTH- NOT AFRICA
AMERICA
SO STFU - JUST CAUSE SOMEONE HAS ELECTRICITY AND INTERNET DOESNT MEAN THEY AREN'T IMPOVERISHED
WHY DO YOU THINK PEOPLE ARE KILLING THEMSELVES
CAPITALISM KILLSclick to expand

Posted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistarPosted by ScheherazadePosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
We can still have opinions.
It's still redundant, because all the opinions are applicable and true. As I said in another post.
I don’t think all opinions are based in fact.
I mean essentially you are saying the discussion doesn’t matter. At least that’s what I’m understanding.
No, the discussion matters. But when it boils down to a bunch of people arguing over semantics about what country is impoverish and what isn't, it leads to nothing by a bunch of people arguing over what their own perceived definition is.
The majority of us on DXP aren't impoverish anymore. The majority of us, have many luxuries. It's just eyerolling to have a bunch of people sitting here arguing over something that, in truth, they don't live in anymore. At most, only see it in passing or on a television.
A real discussion is how to help those in impoverish areas come out on the other side, to join us. Not sitting here on an astrology website bickering about a definition of what they live in.
I think there has been some discussion of how that could be done.
There has been little of that in this thread. And don't think I am arguing with you, but even your responses to me, have been in the line of definition based responses.
I don't know what true unadulterated poverty is. Was I homeless at one point? Yes. But I had a car, which was a luxury. Did I not have money at one point? Yes. But I had people that could provide me food, when I couldn't.
I, personally, will never know what true poverty is. And I am glad for it. I do know what being poor is like, but I will never, and have never known poverty. My mom has, and I can only rely on her own sentiments about it.
The fact is, there are places in the US that are poverty stricken. Places that are 3rd world country-like. And there are places in the world that has a higher percentage of poverty stricken areas, than the US. All of those statements in this thread, are applicable.
I hope one day, that poverty doesn't exist for the world.
Your last paragraph is essentially my point.
I don’t know what it’s like to be in those scenarios but I do believe we need to recognize that it exists here and across the world.click to expand

Posted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by ItsSupes2Posted by _DazedPosted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.
I'm just using the international definition @ItsSupes2 provided.
Internet is pretty much free in America. What’s the excuse that it’s not included in poverty?
I honestly have no idea what you're even asking me..
However, You need a smart phone/computer to access "free internet". If you don't have one, you need access to transportation so you can get to the library, IF your city/town even has one.
Obamaphone
14% poverty
12% SPM
Only 2% get those supplements.
Really?
🤔🤔🤔
1. An estimated 59 million Americans receive welfare during an average month. That number is equivalent to 19% of the population in the US and includes individuals who received assistance from one of the safety net programs.Feb 13, 2020
But how many of those are above the poverty line?
Who knows. But by those numbers I posted.......100% .......not 2% like you tried to BS... with regard to the poverty get benefits
Not according to your ORIGINAL source that differentiates between poverty and those in poverty receiving supplements.
You post conflicting sources, from different years.. just to right fight.
You're like ScorpioFish sourcing the CDC to prove homosexuals are more likely to experience domestic abuse, but also believe the CDC is not to be trusted because you think COVID-19 is a hoax.
You pick an choose what ever source fits your agenda.
How? I posted 1 source. The same source you’re trying to use to twist and bend into your logic
Source #1: https://www.worldvision.org/sponsorship-news-stories/global-poverty-facts#international-poverty-line
Source #2:
LOL
I like that he didn't even read the source. He just pulled the first clip he found on google.
Ofc I read it.
You literally copy pasted the clip from the top of your google search. Even left the Feb 13, 2020 on it.
And?
It’s ok if you do it? Amirite?click to expand




Posted by Sith_RogenPosted by nikkistar
I go and play a single game of league, and I come back to a rage delete.
It must make your Libra moon sad that you didn't cause it LOLclick to expand

Posted by nikkistar
I find it redundant for a bunch of people that clearly have the luxury of the internet, electricity, and electronics to post on DXP, to be arguing about what the definition of "poverty" is.


Posted by Black-MambaPosted by ScheherazadePosted by Black-Mamba
Does 3rd world country immediately mean = poverty
cause my birth country is classified as a 3rd world country, but you'd never see a polio victim in the street
i think there's so many factors
The whole concept is outdated
I just walked 4 blocks from my place to a Schwarma place and i have never seen misery like that ever in my birth country.
so when people say 3rd world it confuses me, cause to me this is miserable- people in the streets begging- drug addicts- lost souls- dirty streetsclick to expand

Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?
Getting your foot cut off is not so bad compared your whole leg. You’ve got it good.click to expand

Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _DazedPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?
Getting your foot cut off is not so bad compared your whole leg. You’ve got it good.
Debatable. There is a reason they don't just amputate the foot. The ankle is a complex joint and difficult to replicate compared to the knee. It's easier and more beneficial to amputate above or below the knee due to prosthetic designs.
Dude I was being sarcastic. I was trying to show how ridiculous her comment sounded.click to expand

Posted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _DazedPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _DazedPosted by AliensusedourbogrollPosted by _Dazed
"The poor people get free food, housing, grants to fix their property, ssi benefits, free handouts, etc. They live good.
The only people that struggle are those with serious addictions and no support."
Do you agree with this statement?
Getting your foot cut off is not so bad compared your whole leg. You’ve got it good.
Debatable. There is a reason they don't just amputate the foot. The ankle is a complex joint and difficult to replicate compared to the knee. It's easier and more beneficial to amputate above or below the knee due to prosthetic designs.
Dude I was being sarcastic. I was trying to show how ridiculous her comment sounded.
Sorry. I'm a nerd.
All good my friend. Perhaps I wasn’t sounding ridiculous enough.click to expand
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Again, I am not going to sit here and argue about everyone's own opinion of poverty is.
Most of us on this website, can sit here on a soapbox claiming this and that, but the fact of the matter is, everyone is going to have their own definition of it.
You have people here that are seemingly coming off as "offended" that others perceive the US as not being impoverish in terms of the rest of the world.
Then you have the people that want to say parts of the US are poverty stricken.
Then you have other random opinions in there.
All of those statements are true, and applicable. So it's redundant in my opinion.