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But... but... but... its in the constitution you say? And why exactly are we so horny over a document written by a bunch of dead literal child rapists and slave owners? Beats me.

Life long appointments to a supreme court that was invented when life expectancy was maybe 40. Now these literal crypt keepers get to make laws that will effect us into infinity long after they are dust in the ground.
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I know some people are gonna start comparing this to the Handmaids Tale. A work of fiction based on very REAL events that happened to mostly indigenous and women of color and continues to happen in this county. Another reason we need CRT.

People are more aware of pop culture then our actual recorded history. And I'm not talking ancient history, I'm talking like late 60s.
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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.


I think the 2nd amendment needs to be revisited.

Leaves alot of room for interpretation.

What exactly is an Arm? A body appendage

What are people? Is it a man or woman? What do either of those really mean?

A well regulated militia.

What is a militia? Let’s really break down the word “regulations “

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While you are watching all these conservative politicians on tv talk about how glad they are to save 'babies' aka fetus's. Just remember they have and will continue to pay for their wives, mistresses, and daughters abortions out of state or even overseas. This is not about saving "lives", this has been and always will be about control.

Before we start talking about unborn rights lets address born rights shall we.

Gotta love the logical argument that we can't have rights because we have a deeply rooted history of not having rights.
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I also think that is life starts at conception…so should CHILD SUPPORT

Men need to pay the moment they ejaculate.

Just leave your banking info on the nightstand for my weekly withdrawals.

Mandatory child support from conception.

Why should women have to carry the burden for 10 months.

Bitch better have my money


I mean, if we are gonna force people with uterus's to give birth where is our universal healthcare? Paid maternity leave? Free child care?

We have abysmal maternal mortality rates compared to any other developed country. More women die giving birth in this country then people dying of gun violence. Like almost 3xs as many.

Life begins at conception and ends at school shooting.

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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.

I think the 2nd amendment needs to be revisited.

Leaves alot of room for interpretation.

What exactly is an Arm? A body appendage

What are people? Is it a man or woman? What do either of those really mean?

A well regulated militia.

What is a militia? Let’s really break down the word “regulations “

Arms and Armament. .

Keep going.. "necessary for the security of a free state".. State being the Key word. See, the whole concept of the United States being 50 seperate governments being free to legislate as they see fit always throws liberals with big government daddy issues.
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Recent super court decision took away states freedom to decide on conceal and carry laws n gun laws

Only applicable if annoted in history lol meaning we’re relevant back in history

Guess what dv laws arent annoted 100 years ago

So now dv violent criminals can own guns? Smart lol

So tons of gun laws will be in question because backwards as judge believes only applicable if it mattered back then lol
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“ Thomas’s opinion states regulations need to be historically consistent with the Second Amendment. That means when they look at a modern gun regulation, judges will have to figure out if another, reasonably similar law was passed earlier in the country’s history. Previously, courts had also considered whether a regulation could be justified for other reasons, but that second layer of consideration is no longer allowed.”



Oh because mass shooting n school shooting don’t matter unless occurred in history.

Wtf!!!!
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Moronic

Thomas said that guns can still be banned in “sensitive places,” but didn’t expand much further on what a “sensitive place” actually is. In his dissent, Justice Stephen Breyer pointed out that with a historical approach, this category could turn out to be pretty limited. “Where does that leave the many locations in a modern city with no obvious 18th- or 19th-century analogue?” he wrote. “What about subways, nightclubs, movie theaters, and sports stadiums?”

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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.

Unless you are in a well regulated militia, guns are not a constitutional right. Sit your ass down and maybe read the actual document so you don't look so dumb.

Of course your illiterate ass wouldn't understand how commas work. You haven't gotten past there, their or then, than..

Like what moron would think after defeating a government with armed citizens that the first thing they're going to do is not make sure the citizens can remained armed. Are you the dumbest person on the planet?
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"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

Key words being regulated militia.

Also lol at your history revisionist take. This is an amendment, not part of the original constitution. The founding fathers literally wanted it to be a breathing living document that would be ratified and amended per the peoples will.

Also lol @ you lecturing me on grammar with you writing great sentences like "citizens can remained armed."

Your still dumb.

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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.

I think the 2nd amendment needs to be revisited.

Leaves alot of room for interpretation.

What exactly is an Arm? A body appendage

What are people? Is it a man or woman? What do either of those really mean?

A well regulated militia.

What is a militia? Let’s really break down the word “regulations “

Arms and Armament. .

Keep going.. "necessary for the security of a free state".. State being the Key word. See, the whole concept of the United States being 50 seperate governments being free to legislate as they see fit always throws liberals with big government daddy issues.

Recent super court decision took away states freedom to decide on conceal and carry laws n gun laws

Only applicable if annoted in history lol meaning we’re relevant back in history

Guess what dv laws arent annoted 100 years ago

So now dv violent criminals can own guns? Smart lol

So tons of gun laws will be in question because backwards as judge believes only applicable if it mattered back then lol

Most states went to Constitutional Carry. The rest of your rant is borderline incoherent. We have a ton of laws on the books regarding guns that we don't enforce. Adding new laws won't mean anything if you don't enforce what we have. The Texas Shooter was in a school zone.. there are signs in school zones prohibiting guns in all states.. liberals love signs.. didn't work... these cops that are out killing everyone and need defunded, missed one.
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It’s not about adding new laws it’s the fact that old laws in place like not allowing dv convicts to possess firearms be removed because it was not an issue in the 1800’s according to justice thomas criteria. This is how it’s going to affect all laws currently in place regarding gun laws
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America is essentially just two corporations and a media conglomerate wearing a trench coat at this point.

HOW IS THIS OKAY??!! HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS POINT?

My guess is a fatal mix of religious brainwashing, lack of education/lack of access to information, misinformation and ignorance on part of general populance.

Spite or a feeling of being wronged by a party can be another powerful motivator to vote a certain way.

At times it can even lead to voting against your own long term interests because the short term emotional payout is too alluring.

Indeed! Shortsightedness can, and does tend to be damaging long term.

"Donald Trump would not be US president without the votes of many, including Obamacare enrollees and immigrants, who are likely to find themselves worse off because of his policies. To some Democrat supporters, this widespread voting against self-interests can seem impossible to understand. To Molly Crockett, a neuroscientist and experimental psychologist at Oxford University, it makes perfect sense.

Crockett studies the psychology of punishment and has found that, rather than accept what they see as an unfair scenario, people will often choose to punish others—even at a personal cost to themselves. This desire to punish, she believes, can motivate those who feel they’re getting a bad deal to vote against the political establishment, regardless of whether the alternative is truly a better option."

"Crockett sees the popular support for Trump and Brexit as real-world examples of the punishing behavior she observes in the lab. “Some of the expressed sentiments of voters in both the [Brexit] referendum and the US election did suggest there was a motivation to punish there,” she says. “That’s certainly not going to be the case for all voters, but quotations that I’ve read from some are consistent with the things people say in our experiments, when they’re treated unfairly and they prefer to punish rather than be at the end of a bad deal.”

Crockett’s experiments have worrying implications. Firstly, her brain imaging studies show that the act of punishing engages the part of the brain that signals reward. It’s the same brain area that’s hijacked by addictive drugs. “Certainly the raw ingredients are there, behaviorally and neurally, for expressing moral outrage to have an addictive quality,” says Crockett.

She also found that people often justify their actions by saying they were trying to teach a moral lesson, rather than because the act of punishing feels good. (This remains true even when a punishment is carried out in secret, and the recipient will never know of their punishment to absorb its lesson.) In retrospect, we tend to assign a moral motive to actions that are essentially vengeance.

“Data suggests that people are telling themselves and others that they’re punishing for moral reasons when in fact the motivations are more complicated than that,” Crockett says. “The motive to harm someone who you perceived has harmed you is a very strong force.”

So, for example, a desire to punish immigrants that you perceive as having taken something from you could be reframed as an effort to create safety. It will come as no surprise, given the fractured state of politics around the world, that people inflict harsher punishments on those from different social groups."

"Social media is another troubling factor, with the potential to further fuel the desire for revenge. “I see social media as tapping into punishment motive in a couple of ways that may be harmful,” says Crockett. “We know that punishing engages the brain’s motivational circuitry and there’s an immediately gratifying aspect to punishment. When you express outrage on Facebook or Twitter, not only do you get the immediate satisfaction of posting that but you also get repeated and amplified reinforcement of that behavior because people like what you say, they share it, they re-post it—and it creates a highly self-reinforcing cycle.”

This behavior is apparent across the political spectrum, Crockett says. “I do see, on both sides, people getting sucked in to repeatedly shaming, expressing outrage,” she says. “This reinforces itself and it further drives people apart… I’m very worried about the way things are headed.”

There are no clear answers on how to reduce the desire to punish, but Crockett believes that being aware of this tendency can help temper knee-jerk acts of vengeance. Punishing others feels good in the short term, and we cannot ignore this uncomfortable truth. But if we don’t curb that tendency, the longterm consequences could be punishing for us all. "

https://qz.com/916680/the-psychology-of-punishment-is-key-to-why-people-vote-against-their-own-interests-says-an-oxford-neuroscientist/

I don’t think I can agree with the assertion that expressing outrage equals punishment but I do agree with the overall message. Like I’ve said many a time, some ppl would cut their noses just to spite their own face!? Examples of above mention actions are notable on a duality basis albeit on a smaller scale, so agreed, vengeance can be a extremely powerful motivator… tough one question remains in my mind… whom are they attempting to punish exactly!? 🤔

As for the opening sentiments of the excerpt…. also agreed on! Trumps had a surprisingly strong support among the Latinos, most notably Cubans.

Cubans can’t be lumped with the rest of Latinos they don’t have the same issues the rest of the Latino community have.
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In respect to having voted for Trump, sure they can! As for their respective reasoning behind it, it wasn’t part of the discussion but I will concede to their rationale being different to say , Mexicans and so on..
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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.

Unless you are in a well regulated militia, guns are not a constitutional right. Sit your ass down and maybe read the actual document so you don't look so dumb.

Of course your illiterate ass wouldn't understand how commas work. You haven't gotten past there, their or then, than..

Like what moron would think after defeating a government with armed citizens that the first thing they're going to do is not make sure the citizens can remained armed. Are you the dumbest person on the planet?
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Obviously you don’t understand what they passed! Do you understand how moronic it is to compare our current world to the 1800 to determine what is applicable now! Now that’s stupid!

You can call me names but your not triggering me lol
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America is essentially just two corporations and a media conglomerate wearing a trench coat at this point.

HOW IS THIS OKAY??!! HOW WAS IT ALLOWED TO GET TO THIS POINT?

My guess is a fatal mix of religious brainwashing, lack of education/lack of access to information, misinformation and ignorance on part of general populance.

Spite or a feeling of being wronged by a party can be another powerful motivator to vote a certain way.

At times it can even lead to voting against your own long term interests because the short term emotional payout is too alluring.

Indeed! Shortsightedness can, and does tend to be damaging long term.

"Donald Trump would not be US president without the votes of many, including Obamacare enrollees and immigrants, who are likely to find themselves worse off because of his policies. To some Democrat supporters, this widespread voting against self-interests can seem impossible to understand. To Molly Crockett, a neuroscientist and experimental psychologist at Oxford University, it makes perfect sense.

Crockett studies the psychology of punishment and has found that, rather than accept what they see as an unfair scenario, people will often choose to punish others—even at a personal cost to themselves. This desire to punish, she believes, can motivate those who feel they’re getting a bad deal to vote against the political establishment, regardless of whether the alternative is truly a better option."

"Crockett sees the popular support for Trump and Brexit as real-world examples of the punishing behavior she observes in the lab. “Some of the expressed sentiments of voters in both the [Brexit] referendum and the US election did suggest there was a motivation to punish there,” she says. “That’s certainly not going to be the case for all voters, but quotations that I’ve read from some are consistent with the things people say in our experiments, when they’re treated unfairly and they prefer to punish rather than be at the end of a bad deal.”

Crockett’s experiments have worrying implications. Firstly, her brain imaging studies show that the act of punishing engages the part of the brain that signals reward. It’s the same brain area that’s hijacked by addictive drugs. “Certainly the raw ingredients are there, behaviorally and neurally, for expressing moral outrage to have an addictive quality,” says Crockett.

She also found that people often justify their actions by saying they were trying to teach a moral lesson, rather than because the act of punishing feels good. (This remains true even when a punishment is carried out in secret, and the recipient will never know of their punishment to absorb its lesson.) In retrospect, we tend to assign a moral motive to actions that are essentially vengeance.

“Data suggests that people are telling themselves and others that they’re punishing for moral reasons when in fact the motivations are more complicated than that,” Crockett says. “The motive to harm someone who you perceived has harmed you is a very strong force.”

So, for example, a desire to punish immigrants that you perceive as having taken something from you could be reframed as an effort to create safety. It will come as no surprise, given the fractured state of politics around the world, that people inflict harsher punishments on those from different social groups."

"Social media is another troubling factor, with the potential to further fuel the desire for revenge. “I see social media as tapping into punishment motive in a couple of ways that may be harmful,” says Crockett. “We know that punishing engages the brain’s motivational circuitry and there’s an immediately gratifying aspect to punishment. When you express outrage on Facebook or Twitter, not only do you get the immediate satisfaction of posting that but you also get repeated and amplified reinforcement of that behavior because people like what you say, they share it, they re-post it—and it creates a highly self-reinforcing cycle.”

This behavior is apparent across the political spectrum, Crockett says. “I do see, on both sides, people getting sucked in to repeatedly shaming, expressing outrage,” she says. “This reinforces itself and it further drives people apart… I’m very worried about the way things are headed.”

There are no clear answers on how to reduce the desire to punish, but Crockett believes that being aware of this tendency can help temper knee-jerk acts of vengeance. Punishing others feels good in the short term, and we cannot ignore this uncomfortable truth. But if we don’t curb that tendency, the longterm consequences could be punishing for us all. "

https://qz.com/916680/the-psychology-of-punishment-is-key-to-why-people-vote-against-their-own-interests-says-an-oxford-neuroscientist/

I don’t think I can agree with the assertion that expressing outrage equals punishment but I do agree with the overall message. Like I’ve said many a time, some ppl would cut their noses just to spite their own face!? Examples of above mention actions are notable on a duality basis albeit on a smaller scale, so agreed, vengeance can be a extremely powerful motivator… tough one question remains in my mind… whom are they attempting to punish exactly!? 🤔

As for the opening sentiments of the excerpt…. also agreed on! Trumps had a surprisingly strong support among the Latinos, most notably Cubans.

I think the idea that expression equals (intended) punishment depends on the social context. If you express your dismay or frustration among close friends it would be just that, but if you express it on a public platform, especially if it is done repeatedly, it can carry the element of seeking to punish through social mobilization. It is also where the described toxic cycles start.

As for your question what people feel wronged by, well, I don't think there is a universal answer to it, but I think not having a diverse array of healthy relationships with people probably is a very common denominator in a lot of those cases.
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Though I still have some reservations with how the “punishment” is defined in this context, I guess I do see your point

As for the second, focus of my inquiry more so the target of the dolled out punishment rather than what ppl felt wronged by, b u t… potato = pothato. 👍🏼
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.



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4xs gun control legislation has gone before the supreme court. All 4 times the Supreme court ruled that gun control legislation gave the government too much power and violated individual liberties.

I'll say that again, gave the government too much power and violated individual liberties.

But allowing the government to regulate citizens bodies is not a violation of individual liberties? They don't see women as individuals... that's my only take away. Hypocrisy, supreme court edition. Coming your way this summer.
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Abortions are not a constitutional right like the 2nd amendment is, Karen.

Unless you are in a well regulated militia, guns are not a constitutional right. Sit your ass down and maybe read the actual document so you don't look so dumb.

Of course your illiterate ass wouldn't understand how commas work. You haven't gotten past there, their or then, than..

Like what moron would think after defeating a government with armed citizens that the first thing they're going to do is not make sure the citizens can remained armed. Are you the dumbest person on the planet?

"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed"

Key words being regulated militia.

Also lol at your history revisionist take. This is an amendment, not part of the original constitution. The founding fathers literally wanted it to be a breathing living document that would be ratified and amended per the peoples will.

Also lol @ you lecturing me on grammar with you writing great sentences like "citizens can remained armed."

Your still dumb.

Wow! You really are that dumb. The Constitution wasn't rattified, meaning the states voted on making it the framework of central government, until 1789. It was written in 1787. The Bill of rights was rattified 2 years later, which included............. not just the first.... but the 2nd...

So, in case I lost you, the first fucking thing we did after establishing and agreeing to the structure of the new government, was to agree to how it will interact with the citizens.

The founding fathers literally wrote the 2nd amendment you moron!
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Can't argue with someone brain broken. Good luck defending child rapists and slave owners. The type of people to worry about 'dem god damn liberals taking away my guns' are mentally ill freaks who wouldn't pass the most basic of background and psych evals. I understand why you are so worried.
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.
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No one ever talks about how that “crazy fuck” is a man.

Men need to be reprogrammed.

Toxic masculinity has gone unaddressed for far too too long.

Let’s start by giving men a curfew and mandatory video screenings that appeal to shedding their terrorist ways and reveal loving emotions. Teach these men how to love.

Ladies, what would you do if men had a curfew?



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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.

No one ever talks about how that “crazy fuck” is a man.

Men need to be reprogrammed.

Toxic masculinity has gone unaddressed for far too too long.

Let’s start by giving men a curfew and mandatory video screenings that appeal to shedding their terrorist ways and reveal loving emotions. Teach these men how to love.

Ladies, what would you do if men had a curfew?
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I've seen some pretty messed up women too. I should give them the benefit of the doubt though, no matter how messed up they were. Society wants me to admit they aren't men, and weaker by nature. Because of that, I should admit it's my fault 100% of the time, no matter the situation.

That is what you literally just said to me.
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.

No one ever talks about how that “crazy fuck” is a man.

Men need to be reprogrammed.

Toxic masculinity has gone unaddressed for far too too long.

Let’s start by giving men a curfew and mandatory video screenings that appeal to shedding their terrorist ways and reveal loving emotions. Teach these men how to love.

Ladies, what would you do if men had a curfew?
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This is less me attacking you personally, but more attacking the aspect of toxic masculinity. People like to confuse what that actually means. Many can see the end result, but never see the root of what it actually means. I'll tell you what toxic masculinity really is. It's the fact that I can't go cry about my problems to my guy friends, women, or even anyone in my life without looking like a defect or unhinged man. Women can do it daily and people will say "Its just a woman being a woman." I can't do that shit though. I have to pretend like everything is fine even if it's not. Maybe I can talk to a shrink or something who can somewhat pretend to understand, but in the end society won't. I'm supposed to be a man, with no problems or sadness, regardless of what might have happened in the past. If I feel sadness or regret, that is my fault, and my fault only. I have no right to blame any turmoil on anything that has happened to me, or any of my past. If I do, or turn to people around me for support, im doing more harm then good.

That is toxic masculinity.
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I'm all for murder so I'm upset about this.

>Women losing domestic violence trials

>Women losing rights

You should’ve just been born a man

I prefer being a hot gay woman. Its easy to get men to have sex with you when you're a woman. And that has its perks. Can I come live up there in Canadia with you though?
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I might forget to let you inside the house when it’s raining
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Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.
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This is like the laziest of laziness regurgitative narratives. No one one is trying to take your guns away. That's never been part of the proposed solution. If you really fear the government taking away your guns and buy into this fear narrative that's a huge indicator you got some mental health issues and probably shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

As someone who owns guns (3) and advocates for gun control, like the majority of Americans, this is a non issue. The issue is life time appointees, 5 of 9 elected by presidents who lost the majority vote, ruling against what the overwhelming majority of Americans want. This is not democracy.
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Posted by Soul
Posted by LadyNeptune

Holding up constitutional amendments as if they are bible is hilarious to me.

You know what was in the original constitution? Not the 2nd Amendment. Nope it was the three fifths clause which gave more political power to slave states by allowing them to include enslaved people as a population count, 3/5ths a person per enslaved individual. Gave them a bit more electoral power than they would've had otherwise.

Oops we repealed that shit didn't we. Because the constitution is not a morally superior document to be set in stone. Its flawed and immoral and we changed that shit. We continue to change it.

So don't let these gun and pro birth fanatic debate lords switch the narrative.

You don't believe in owning a gun to protect yourself?

I always imagine what our country would be like without them. There is a walking trail close to me that goes 50 miles or so through WV and PA. I've been out pretty far. Like so far out there isn't phone service or people for miles. Yet I still see women pushing their baby stroller all the way out there. I can only imagine if some crazy fuck tried to steal their kids, or potentially harm them all. Then if she had a gun, and shot that fuck dead. I absolutely hate when people try to compare the US to a place like the UK or something. People here aren't the same. Even if you took away all guns, people in the US would just make weapons in their basements or sheds 100 times more inhumane and worse then guns. A firearm is the great equalizer for the type of people we are, and forever will be. Taking away guns won't fix any problem we have mentally as a society.

This is like the laziest of laziness regurgitative narratives. No one one is trying to take your guns away. That's never been part of the proposed solution. If you really fear the government taking away your guns and buy into this fear narrative that's a huge indicator you got some mental health issues and probably shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

As someone who owns guns (3) and advocates for gun control, like the majority of Americans, this is a non issue. The issue is life time appointees, 5 of 9 elected by presidents who lost the majority vote, ruling against what the overwhelming majority of Americans want. This is not democracy.
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The truth is that the US on the national level was never designed to be a democracy. It's a republic after all. But repeat it often enough and people will start to believe it wether true or not...sadly enough.