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First you guys claim you need to be loved and now youre condemning me for trying to show that i care the night of his birthday. Then you say that I am selfish because I expect him to always come to me and now you are saying I should have stayed away. Confused!!! You are completly right I should have ignored him the entire night....lol! I wasnt chasing him too far we were all hanging out in the same area....if I ignore him I am wrong if I try to show him a good time I am needy....

You are so right he left me like he always does when things get tough....then he comes back when things have blown over.....what a great quality, never being able to stick throug thick and thin!!!!! Youre right I guess I dont seem to care to know the "fish" you are right!!!! lol!

You are something else P-Angel
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I will clear this up for you:

"youre condemning me for trying to show that i care the night of his birthday"

What you did was NOT trying to show you care .. showing that you care, would have been a woman who showed up on time, sat next to him at dinner and let him drink with his mates, without taking it personally. You said, you socialized with everybody .. why not introduce yourself to the single lady .. I bet you introduced yourself to all the others whom you didn't know.

You didn't care about calling him at 7am to wish him a happy day on 2/14, you didn't care about him enough to phone him though he rang you all the time, you didn't care him enough to sit in the chair he set aside for you so he wouldn't have to talk to you across the table - which, btw from your account of events, once seated for the meal, it was your attention he was seeking .. so, if you didn't care then, why should anyone believe that you were trying to show him you care then?

"Then you say that I am selfish because I expect him to always come to me"

Yes, completely selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed .. wouldn't be surprised if you said you always a Tiara because certainly you think you should, if you think the right way to handle a partnership is for, "I expect him to always come to me"

"if I ignore him I am wrong"

That's right .. if you ignore him when it's time to show affection, such as Valentines or just phoning

"if I try to show him a good time I am needy"

And that is right, when it's HIS time to have his own fun and not looking to you to show him a good time .. he was with his friends .. it's obvious he wanted to party with his mates.

The problem is .. you only want to show him attention when you percieve that he's ignoring you. Hence: Attention Monger. Problem is, he wasn't ignoring you, for he kept calling you babe and had the desire to converse over your meal.

You said yourself .. you were busy dancing with everybody .. didn't seem to be upset about attention then .. oh, because you were receiving some .. from his friends?

"You are something else P-Angel"

Yes, I am .. I dead fucking right. That makes me something else, for I refuse to follow suit of another when I know what is wrong and what is right.

"Then you say that I am selfish because I expect him to always come to me"
I'm not the only person who knows this .. I'm just the only one bold enough to tell you straight to your face because I have no fear of how I look

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1-1 Aries/Aries
.. You do express yourself readily and forcefully, with considerable dramatic effect. It's painfully difficult for you to listen to and understand the woes of others. Yet you can be demanding of the attention of those around you ..

Message posted by: P-Angel on 3/23/2007 10:58:47 AM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.190

.. This part of her stands out louder than any other part .. people see this for miles around because she makes dramatic splashes to let it be known that she has been ignored. Yet, she has no clue of it .. when my son tries to talk to her about it, she swears that she didn't make a scene, or try to draw attention away from another, for him to place it "exclusively" on her ..
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You see .. I care not how harsh I am sounding at the moment because I have effectively pointed out that you are seeking his attention ONLY when he's not readily giving to you.

When he calls in the morning to wish you a happy V-day .. that's not good enough.
When he calls later to ask you to be his Valentine .. that's not good enough.

Fact of the matter is .. a woman who is as caring, loving, understanding and considerate as you've painted yourself out to be, wouldn't find herself in this situation. However, a woman who demands attention ONLY when the attention belongs to another person (his Day) .. would find herself in this position.

You're not a Princess .. take the crown off .. maybe then, the light will go off in your head that a partnership involves two people.
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" .. i wanted to go with him, i would have rather shown up by his side but i left that up to him to decide..."


When in reality, this isn't the truth because of the fact that he didn't decide and left it up to you to make your choice .. you didn't "i would have rather shown up by his side".

Is there any part of this that is the truth?

If left up to you, you would rather show up by his side .. why didn't you?
He left that up to you by not callling .. what did you do?

I'm thinking you were pissed off because he didnt' call you (though, by your testimony, he has always been the one doing all the work in the relationship with communication), so in your anger .. you went against, "i wanted to go with him, i would have rather shown up by his side" .. so, it's highly likely that when you did show up .. your mood was intolerable .. you had all those hours to fume.
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Thanks Unreal I was begining to think the same. My mom is a Pisces and so are two of my best friends but this lady is a nutt. lol! Weird! She doesnt seem to read the entire post and she only picks up on a few things to twist and throw at me. He seems to be the selfish one in my eyes but she seems to think that he (pisces) can do no wrong....its kinda funny! I enjoy her rage!!! I am not saying all pisces are nutts because I love my mom and my girlfriends are great and they all seem to think that he was in the wrong which is funny because my mom never takes my side...oh well it is what it is. Thanks.
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"I danced my butt off all night with his friends"


Wasn't bothering you then, was it?

You're a player .. it's quite obvious.
You say he's ing with you, when in reality, it's you.

It was bothering me then but what was i supposed to do sit in a corner sad or get up and have a good time. You are sooooo wierd. First you say to go out there be independent and socialize then you say its wrong for me to go out and dance with his friends and family. Lol! YES I AM A PLAYER...LOL! All i do is strive for this guys attention but yet I am a player....ha! This is great!
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When in reality, this isn't the truth because of the fact that he didn't decide and left it up to you to make your choice .. you didn't "i would have rather shown up by his side".

Is there any part of this that is the truth?

If left up to you, you would rather show up by his side .. why didn't you?
He left that up to you by not callling .. what did you do?

-------He said he wasnt sure if we should show up together because it was supposed to be a surprise but that he would call me later and let me know...why is it ok for him not to keep his word but every single thing i do is wrong even when its me trying to take a shot or dance with the one that i care about....lol!

I am so over your post its not even funny! There is absolutly nothing intelligent coming out of you....its so funny!
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"I say babe a lot. Not him. He called me by name the entire night. You are not reading right....again! He might have said it a few times when we were alone but I dont thinks so I remember him calling me by my name most of the time especially when we were in crowds."


So, twice by your account he said babe .. you're thinking it was mostly done when the two of you were alone, "He might have said it a few times when we were alone". The rest of the time, he addressed you by name.

I thought he was ignoring you?
I thought the whole problem was because he left you feeling unwanted?
Why was he talking to you, then?

When in reality, if a person discerns what this means .. he WAS indeed paying attention to you because he only said "babe" a couple times, in private, the rest of the night when he was talking to you, he said your name.

I guess that's not good enough for you either .. it has to be ALL the attention, doesn't it?
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I TOLD YOU HE DID CALL ME BABE A FEW TIMES WHEN WE WERE ALL ALONE!!!! IN PUBLIC HE CALLED ME BY MY NAME WHICH I FOUND WEIRD AND I WAS ABLE TO CATCH ON TO IT BECAUSE IT WAS UNUSUAL FOR ME TO HEAR COMING FROM HIM........WILL YOU READ RIGHT!!!! GEEZE!!!

I AM DONE WITH YOU BY THE WAY...

ALL ABOUT ME, ALL ABOUT ME, ALL ABOUT ME (DANCING AROUND MY DESK AT WORK) LOL!!!!!

TO EVERYONE ELSE HAVE A FANTASTIC WEEKEND!!!!!!!!!! PARTY IT UP CAUSE I SURE AM!!!!!!!!1
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WHEN I SEEN HIM STANDING ALONE THATS WHEN I WENT UP TO HIM AND ASKED HIM TO DANCE!!!!! HE NEVER CAME TO ME....HE DIDNT IGNORE ME AT ALL ESPECIALLY WHEN I WOULD GO UP TO HIM BUT HE WAS NOT THE LEAST BIT INTERESTED IN DOING ANYTHING THAT INVOLVED THE TWO OF US TOGETHER....

GIVE IT UP ALREADY!!!!!!!! DONT CARE!!!!!!!!

WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR THAT YOURE RIGHT AND THAT I AM A SELF RIGHTEOUS B**CH? FINE YOU WIN!!!!!!! LOL! I AM I AM!!!!!!!!!!
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i have to agree with unreal i dont think it is fair not to be objective and approach non pisces ppl with prejudice like this!

"Yes, completely selfish, self-centered, self-absorbed .. wouldn't be surprised if you said you always a Tiara because certainly you think you should, if you think the right way to handle a partnership is for, "I expect him to always come to me"

i just cannot understand how someone can come to this conclusion by the things you said!

there isnt any guilty here it is just a case of different perceptions -being pisces doesnt give someone a privilige to make up their own rules in a relationship!you have every right to expect your reasonable needs to met by your boyfriend!orelse what is the point of a relationship maybe he should've tried understanding you as much as you tried then he could make a desicion to stay or leave
i would advise you to move on asap

"Watch him pop up and call when he sees that you havent "kissed his ass" and called. They are a nutty bunch indeed"

yes they always come back!this is what i dont understand they leave because they think you are high maintenance, selfish... etc yet they always come back!you are the same person HE LEFT you for a reason!if he really believed who he thought you are what does this act say about him? messed up? selfish? seeking for ego boost? all the things he thought about you in the first place?
so who is better?
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She is my MOTHER for god sakes!!!!!!! Of course I to her for advice and many times she tells me I am wrong for acting a certain way and other times she gives me solutions or tries to give me solutions.......

Its not about taking sides its about understanding the big picture and if my mom or my girlfriends can do that for me why not.

Sorry you dont have a great relationship with you mother........lol!

I DONT EVEN KNOW I AM LETTING YOU GET UNDER MY SKIN YOU HAVE NOTHING INTELLIGENT TO SAY!!!!!!!! THE CHALLENGE WE (ARIES) CRAVE!!! LOL!
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"SO WHAT it was his bday he invited you IVy out to be with him on his bday under the assumption that you were his lady/date for the night and he should have acted like it. If he knew that he did not want to focus on a date or a lady by his side he should have not invited you or told you that he will be having other female interest at his party that night. As far as him walking the lady to her car all fine and dandy, but the proper thing to do was to ask you to wait at the door of the establishment until he came back then walked you to your car since he was being so gentlemen like that night."

EXACTLY! HE WANT TO BE A GENTLEMEN THEN BE A GENTLEMEN........EXACTLY MY POINT!!!
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With this whole thing .. it's one-sided .. one to be innocent, the other to be wrong.

If it was posted equally .. my response would have been differently.

This wasn't a date .. with his lady on his side .. this was a party where his friends were at the bar, or where ever the booze was kept, having shots and being male.

I've read over this several times and I cannot see where this was intended to be his lady at his side .. I see nothing in here that indicates this, except from her expecting that to be the case.

A bunch boys out making some noise and being male .. she takes offense because she believes that he should have her by his side .. crazy!

He talked to her all night, she said so .. even during the meal.

For the life of me, I cannot comprehend females .. maybe I'm male in a woman's body. But, I don't understand why a man isn't allowed to be male at his own birthday party, drinking and having fun with his boys .. ludicrious.

No wonder men have these attitudes .. women are so goddamned emotionally needy that her name isn't even allowed to be with his mates on his day, without her thinking she's been slighted in some way.

Frankly, I don't give a rats ass whether anyone thinks I'm wierd, or nuts .. because I know that it's NOT wrong to give a man some peace and have fun with his friends, without having a woman up his ass the entire night.

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Message posted by: lv24 on 3/23/2007 4:31:35 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.100
Oh and he will be back in due time trust me..Pisce men most of them are stupid like that..

I AM SURE HE WILL STARFISH THEY ALWAYS DO NOT JUST PISCES BUT ALL MEN!!!!



This sounds like a player .. Pisces men are just stupid and people wonder why I would defend this, saying it's wrong to defend a male Pisces that this woman openly claims is stupid?

lol, the truth is starting to come .. only took 6 pages.
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"Thaters"

If that's what she said .. then that's what it is.

One more thing .. then I'm out.

Message posted by: Starfish225 on 3/23/2007 4:47:02 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.30
.. but he better not invite me out with them as his lady/date and then turn around and ignore me like I am not there

He talked to her all night, called her babe only twice, then her real name the entire night, by her account .. that's NOT ignoring somebody.


Over and Out
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Not always we both work long hours and sometimes after work i would go to his work and help him out (he has his own business) other times we would fall asleep watching movies. We both very hard workers so sometimes it was just dinner and a sleep over. We would sleep with eachother 2 out of 4 times again it would just depend on the day of events. As far as me being a player thats a no. Previous to this i was in a 5 year relationship...I took 2 years off of dating then i met him. so dont know.

anyhow i agree this is tiredsome and old now but i just cant help responding to
p-angels stupidity...

I find it funny that its ok for someone else to say "Oh and he will be back in due time trust me..Pisce men most of them are stupid like that.." but once i say it i become a player...lol!
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"The entire night i felt like i was there to keep my girlfriend company for a party that her older brother invited us to."


Oh .. now I get it. You were invited by someone else .. now it makes sense why he didn't phone you, and wanted to spend time with his mates. I missed that. He wanted to spend the evening celebrating without you .. that would make sense as to why he would have the behaviour he did. The debate on the phone before-hand was just him not wanting to come right out and say that he didn't want you to come, so he could spare your feelings .. it all makes perfect sense now.
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NO WRONG AGAIN!!!!! LOL! HE INVITED ME PERSONALLY OVER DINNER A FEW DAYS PRIOR. HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE ME TO JOIN HIM AND HIS FAMILY FOR A BIRTHDAY DINNER BUT THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE...SO SHHHHHHHHHH! LOL! THATS EXACTLY HOW HE INVITED ME 🙂

"The entire night i felt like i was there to keep my girlfriend company for a party that her older brother invited us to.

HER OLDER BROTHER DIDNT INVITE US THATS HOW I FELT. HER BROTHER HAS INVITED US TO OTHER PARTIES AND THATS WHAT IT FELT LIKE. IT FELT LIKE ONE OF THOSE OTHER TIMES WHEN HER AND I WOULD JOIN HER BROTHER FOR EVENTS.

YOU ARE CRAZY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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YES WE DID MAKE PLANS TO SPEND HIS BIRTHDAY TOGETHER. I ASKED HIM OVER DINNER THAT SAME DAY IF HE HAD ANY B-DAY PLANS. HE SAID TO ME THAT HE WAS PLANNING ON RIDING HIS HORSE ALL MORNING BUT THAT HE WOULD DEFINITLY WANT TO GET TOGETHER WITH ME ONCE I GOT OUT OF SCHOOL. HE SAID THAT NO MATTER WHAT WE WOULD SPEND HIS BIRTHDAY TOGETHER BUT THAT TO KEEP IN MIND HE WASNT LOOKING TO DO ANYTHING CRAZY BECAUSE HORSE RIDING TAKES A LOT OUT OF HIM. HE ASKED ME TO JOIN HIM BUT SINCE I HAVE TO WORK AND ATTEND SCHOOL IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE FOR ME TO. SO WE LEFT IT LIKE THAT.
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i think you only read what you want, i just explained to you that he invited me personally and you chose to ignore and still say that i invaded his space. you are truly a nutt please please swim away...that would be the best thing you have said all nigtht.

PREVIOUS POST: NO WRONG AGAIN!!!!! LOL! HE INVITED ME PERSONALLY OVER DINNER A FEW DAYS PRIOR. HE SAID HE WOULD LIKE ME TO JOIN HIM AND HIS FAMILY FOR A BIRTHDAY DINNER BUT THAT IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE A SURPRISE...SO SHHHHHHHHHH! LOL! THATS EXACTLY HOW HE INVITED ME