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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

Is love a real thing?


When it all it does it make people feel good about themselves and feel good in general.


Think before you speak?

Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, it can be seen with scans : )

Right, so if you did the same study as someone who enjoys reading about astrology and you see chemicals moving about, it's now proven as fact that astrology is real now?


Just using logic.

A part of the brain does light up when believers think of their belief systems which you can call astrology if you want this stuff to fit into science. Believing in something however doesn't make it universally real or applicable which is why it's not valid scientifically.

It's not a belief though it just is what it is.


The difference between a belief and something that just is from my view point, is the fact that a belief has structure, it's rigid and unevolving unlike astrology which is deeply more complex than a belief system can handle.


Truth be told negativity towards astrology is stemmed from people who are not for wanting to see themselves and being exposed on a personal level through what to them is an enemy.


People see it as an enemy as it puts pressure against their own structure and beliefs.


Some people are too in their minds to actually see what is too, as you mentioned you bring up science yet i point out the fallacy in how you mentioned "brain chemicals" so if love is real, how is astrology not real?


Since both are perceived.

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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

Is love a real thing?


When it all it does it make people feel good about themselves and feel good in general.


Think before you speak?

Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, it can be seen with scans : )

Right, so if you did the same study as someone who enjoys reading about astrology and you see chemicals moving about, it's now proven as fact that astrology is real now?


Just using logic.

A part of the brain does light up when believers think of their belief systems which you can call astrology if you want this stuff to fit into science. Believing in something however doesn't make it universally real or applicable which is why it's not valid scientifically.

It's not a belief though it just is what it is.


The difference between a belief and something that just is from my view point, is the fact that a belief has structure, it's rigid and unevolving unlike astrology which is deeply more complex than a belief system can handle.


Truth be told negativity towards astrology is stemmed from people who are not for wanting to see themselves and being exposed on a personal level through what to them is an enemy.


People see it as an enemy as it puts pressure against their own structure and beliefs.


Some people are too in their minds to actually see what is too, as you mentioned you bring up science yet i point out the fallacy in how you mentioned "brain chemicals" so if love is real, how is astrology not real?


Since both are perceived.

You have limited experience with the multitudes of belief systems that exist if you believe they are all rigid, unyielding structures.


Belief is anything you choose to believe to be real whether that's God, aliens in a volcano controlling people, a pasta monster that boiled for your sins, zeus, planets mapping out your personality and life.


If astrology is real and universally applicable then all the babies born at the exact same second in the world (location isn't nearly as important as people want to believe it is, I've put in multiple birth locations for my chart -and others- little to nothing changed even if I put down I or someone else was born on the other side of the world.) would be freakishly similar, they'd lead super identical lives, all their bad days and good days would line up perfectly with each others and yet that isn't the case.


I don't consider astrology an enemy but you've made your mind up about me in that regard and you're allowed to have any opinion about me that you wish.

Most people in fact 99% of people know their birth signs, they also hide behind peer pressure, but some choose to follow a religion because it's not as down under as astrology is.


People will follow a book based on a load of 2 faced and contradictory information of some lord savior, but apply anything to their own reality and they feel hurt, they run the opposite way, some folk embrace it since it does line up accurately.



And the theory you just used is also silly, since people born as twins try not to be like each other, it's actually a fact, show me a single case of twins who actually live out the same?



If i was born elsewhere my chart changes, look at the aspects.

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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

Is love a real thing?


When it all it does it make people feel good about themselves and feel good in general.


Think before you speak?

Love is a chemical reaction in the brain, it can be seen with scans : )

Right, so if you did the same study as someone who enjoys reading about astrology and you see chemicals moving about, it's now proven as fact that astrology is real now?


Just using logic.

A part of the brain does light up when believers think of their belief systems which you can call astrology if you want this stuff to fit into science. Believing in something however doesn't make it universally real or applicable which is why it's not valid scientifically.

It's not a belief though it just is what it is.


The difference between a belief and something that just is from my view point, is the fact that a belief has structure, it's rigid and unevolving unlike astrology which is deeply more complex than a belief system can handle.


Truth be told negativity towards astrology is stemmed from people who are not for wanting to see themselves and being exposed on a personal level through what to them is an enemy.


People see it as an enemy as it puts pressure against their own structure and beliefs.


Some people are too in their minds to actually see what is too, as you mentioned you bring up science yet i point out the fallacy in how you mentioned "brain chemicals" so if love is real, how is astrology not real?


Since both are perceived.

You have limited experience with the multitudes of belief systems that exist if you believe they are all rigid, unyielding structures.


Belief is anything you choose to believe to be real whether that's God, aliens in a volcano controlling people, a pasta monster that boiled for your sins, zeus, planets mapping out your personality and life.


If astrology is real and universally applicable then all the babies born at the exact same second in the world (location isn't nearly as important as people want to believe it is, I've put in multiple birth locations for my chart -and others- little to nothing changed even if I put down I or someone else was born on the other side of the world.) would be freakishly similar, they'd lead super identical lives, all their bad days and good days would line up perfectly with each others and yet that isn't the case.


I don't consider astrology an enemy but you've made your mind up about me in that regard and you're allowed to have any opinion about me that you wish.

Most people in fact 99% of people know their birth signs, they also hide behind peer pressure, but some choose to follow a religion because it's not as down under as astrology is.


People will follow a book based on a load of 2 faced and contradictory information of some lord savior, but apply anything to their own reality and they feel hurt, they run the opposite way, some folk embrace it since it does line up accurately.



And the theory you just used is also silly, since people born as twins try not to be like each other, it's actually a fact, show me a single case of twins who actually live out the same?



If i was born elsewhere my chart changes, look at the aspects.

Ooh your aspects did change, same signs and locations though so there'd still be striking similarities.


Twins aren't born at the exact same time and they weren't a part of my example. However babies born at the exact same time, if you really want location to be the same then pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives because of their charts and yet that doesn't happen.


You're free to believe in astrology to your hearts content, I did say that before. The question is, why aren't you allowing me the same courtesy?

I never said you should believe i was just arguing my point was all, i was arguing the fallacy hidden behind why you think in such a way not the actual act of not following it.


See if you had a hard time with someone who attempted to shove it down your throat, i could understand not wanting to follow it at all.


However you attempted to use "logic" where logic does not belong, it's called contradiction.

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

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Smartest man in the zodiac?


A woman

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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

Usually I would agree with you as far as the evidence goes but people also believe in god.


But Astrology is real and will always be real. Why? Because women believe in Astrology and as long as they do believe in it I do as well because it benefits me. No scientific evidence or facts will hopefully ever change their minds and that's good for any man as well. There are so many hardcore nerds who spend 20 hours a day infront of their pc arguing about stuff in the internet by providing "facts" just to win any argument because their life is all about numerals and facts. And then they go to a date once every 5 years and when their dates ask them on their oppinions on Astrology they are stupid enough to be honest and say it's all crap, insulting the women they are on the date with. Instead of playing along, saying it's interesting, later do some research about her sign and whether they match and just act on it they ruin it. Astrology is a huge gift to men!


Ladies, I love you for you believing in Astrology because I do as well. It's very interesting!!

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I still don't think my list proves anything, but it should really put into perspective all the stereotypes about this sign

Taurus isnt inherently dumb, but to rly look smart it needs time and preparation to shine.

Mental power is there, mental agility not so much.

Maybe. I know agile ones, I know rigid ones. I know rapid fire spontaneous thinkers and I know the famously slow ones. Plenty of "inherently dumb" ones too. All kinds of Taurus


I'm starting to doubt astrology as a whole. The reason I got into it in the first place was because of the convenience and assurance of putting myself and others in boxes. It was an emotional choice.


But that interest is slowly dying when I see that all astrology related topics end with universal agreement upon filler statements such as "everyone is (instert positive attribute) in their own unique way" or "____ is a personal choice". I have no way of contributing to this kind of circular logic and I don't think there is anything to learn from it

You're doubt in astrology is well placed. It's been studied and the evidence to support it as factual isn't there.


You either believe (as defined as wishful magical thinking) in it or you don't. Most people who believe in it do so because it removes responsibility from them, they can blame all their negative traits and bad days on where planets supposedly were when they were born. Or they can look at their chart and descriptions and feel like a bad-ass because oooh they have -insert placement/sign here-.


I literally read someone say the other day, in defense of astrology, that people just need to pick out what does or doesn't apply to themselves and that's how astrology works but the thing is you can go read any sun/moon/mars/venus/pluto/jupiter/saturn/uranus/neptune/mercury placement and pick out shit that does or doesn't apply to you regardless of whether it's actually in your chart.


I also created a list of interchangeable traits between leo and libra, told someone 'all signs have these traits' then they proceeded to list what signs do or don't have those traits, not surprisingly they listed signs I hadn't thought of and excluded leos and libras from some of the traits.

Considering astrology a belief system is simply delusion, that I don't think undermines in any way the validity of the subject itself.

If someone elects to believe in it then that's their choice, if they make life decisions based on it then again that's their choice. It's not valid in a scientific sense and is basically a demonstration of the forer effect.

You can argue that it's metaphysical stuff that can't be proved by science, I imagine that's where your argument would head anyway, and that's fine. I personally choose to acknowledge the faults in astrology and chart interpretations, I don't turn a blind eye to the fact that every site that talks about this stuff has a sales pitch -usually more in depth chart interpretations- and that that comes into play with what they write about the signs, positions, houses etc. They want readers to feel good about themselves so they'll either purchase books, charts, or just keep them coming back so they get ad revenue while the person clicks around looking up one placement then the next. Also the negative traits tend to be moderately positive lol, sorta like the faults people list about themselves while being interviewed for a job.

Usually I would agree with you as far as the evidence goes but people also believe in god.


But Astrology is real and will always be real. Why? Because women believe in Astrology and as long as they do believe in it I do as well because it benefits me. No scientific evidence or facts will hopefully ever change their minds and that's good for any man as well. There are so many hardcore nerds who spend 20 hours a day infront of their pc arguing about stuff in the internet by providing "facts" just to win any argument because their life is all about numerals and facts. And then they go to a date once every 5 years and when their dates ask them on their oppinions on Astrology they are stupid enough to be honest and say it's all crap, insulting the women they are on the date with. Instead of playing along, saying it's interesting, later do some research about her sign and whether they match and just act on it they ruin it. Astrology is a huge gift to men!


Ladies, I love you for you believing in Astrology because I do as well. It's very interesting!!

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

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Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes....

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

And in the event the neighbor has job E which isn't mentioned in their chart?


That still leaves the issue of the two individuals having shitty, okay, or great days that are synced as they should -according to astrology- experience the same cosmic effects.


By the way I already mentioned that one of my critiques of astrology is that it's vague, it's contradictory and astrologers always cast a wide net to hook as many fish (individuals) as possible. This vagueness is what makes astrology impossible for science to support as it's easily explained as a gimmick to achieve the forer effect which can then be exploited for financial gain.

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

And in the event the neighbor has job E which isn't mentioned in their chart?


That still leaves the issue of the two individuals having shitty, okay, or great days that are synced as they should -according to astrology- experience the same cosmic effects.


By the way I already mentioned that one of my critiques of astrology is that it's vague, it's contradictory and astrologers always cast a wide net to hook as many fish (individuals) as possible. This vagueness is what makes astrology impossible for science to support as it's easily explained as a gimmick to achieve the forer effect which can then be exploited for financial gain.

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Posted by Catullus
..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

And in the event the neighbor has job E which isn't mentioned in their chart?


That still leaves the issue of the two individuals having shitty, okay, or great days that are synced as they should -according to astrology- experience the same cosmic effects.


By the way I already mentioned that one of my critiques of astrology is that it's vague, it's contradictory and astrologers always cast a wide net to hook as many fish (individuals) as possible. This vagueness is what makes astrology impossible for science to support as it's easily explained as a gimmick to achieve the forer effect which can then be exploited for financial gain.

On one side you have someone who gains money. On the other side you have someone who was curious to desparate about their situation. With the differenty "most likeys" and "maybes" someone bring to their lower mind, they:

- either distract themselves

- or see new perspectives.


a similar effect can be seen with "Family Constellations" which are theatrical stuff, but placebo or not people goes from one stage of their lives into another one. similar with tarot. similar with psychotherapy. similar with talking to your bffs (who not always give the best comment or advice). similar with hollywood stories apparently telling your story. all these things are mind expansion and imagination. they affect your way, but they are not commanding. you are still the one who pick the cherries. At least I see it that way.

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

And in the event the neighbor has job E which isn't mentioned in their chart?


That still leaves the issue of the two individuals having shitty, okay, or great days that are synced as they should -according to astrology- experience the same cosmic effects.


By the way I already mentioned that one of my critiques of astrology is that it's vague, it's contradictory and astrologers always cast a wide net to hook as many fish (individuals) as possible. This vagueness is what makes astrology impossible for science to support as it's easily explained as a gimmick to achieve the forer effect which can then be exploited for financial gain.

On one side you have someone who gains money. On the other side you have someone who was curious to desparate about their situation. With the differenty "most likeys" and "maybes" someone bring to their lower mind, they:

- either distract themselves

- or see new perspectives.


a similar effect can be seen with "Family Constellations" which are theatrical stuff, but placebo or not people goes from one stage of their lives into another one. similar with tarot. similar with psychotherapy. similar with talking to your bffs (who not always give the best comment or advice). similar with hollywood stories apparently telling your story. all these things are mind expansion and imagination. they affect your way, but they are not commanding. you are still the one who pick the cherries. At least I see it that way.

Mhm, that's been my point. It's not scientifically valid, it's a belief system and like any belief system my stance is "If you choose to believe in then that's fine." People have been getting riled up thinking I was saying they shouldn't believe in it. Seriously, the insults, insinuations, and 'deep insights' people have thrown my way since my post have been reminiscent to the same things Christians say when I tell them I don't believe in their god. It's been fun in a sort of way but in another way it's just been redundant.

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I'm interested which placement makes someone very intelligent n smart? From what I can see, Aqua sun seems to take the top chart here not that I will want to settle myself because smart and intelligent isn't always a good trait in a relationship. It can be used in a not so positive way.... I'm just curious of what people think.? I been with a Virgo man who's book smart but not so street smart. A Capricorn who is wise in his own practical way... a Scorpio who is hard working and smart but in a more... feeling kind of way... Taurus who is slow and steady and smart but can soemtimes be a little bit boring... Gemini who is playful and smart but I find intellectually not as fast as Aqua... and libra I find is ok... Aries men I find is also smart but too impatient and let his emotion rule his decisions which isn't always a good trait... never been with cancer or Pisces yet.... thoughts???? More info I have Aqua moon so me n the Aqua used to out smart each other all the time ... n sometimes it's not always a good thing... lol.... oh and LEO... I find is also pretty good and successful... again the fire I don't know.. too bossy... and to me that's not a real leadership quality.. and I used to dig into deeper topics he was a bit shallow... thoughts?

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..... pick a highly populated city, all the babies born there at that time would be exactly alike and would lead exactly the same lives.

same lives?


like they all lose their brothers (of course their brothers have all the same horoscope chart) when they are five years old. And they all have an absent father (note their fathers have the same horoscope chart). And fail in Mathematics cause their teacher (the Math teacher of all of them has the same age and faith and childhood complexes horsocope chart) was non-supportive


and so on?

Similar lives as in they'd have jobs in the same field, they'd have eerily similar accidents and misfortunes etc. etc. and those misfortunes would occur on the same day since the planets should have the same effects on both. If the planets have say in peoples lives and personalities then they should have clear impact on the lives of people who share the exact same chart, if they don't then the impact planets have is questionable.

so if there's an aspect today and I had an absent father but not my neighbour, do we react the same way to similar triggers? do I have the same reaction time if with another person who's genetically different than me and had a sad childhood?

Astrology is the belief that planetary positions affect our personalities, emotional states, and events in our lives so if astrology is true and you and your neighbor have the same chart then yes. Logically that doesn't happen because either the planets have no impact on us or it's so minute that it's not worth caring about.


You can use the same argument Christians and other astrologers use which is; "This is too complicated and mystical for science to be used." which is fine. If that's where your argument lies then lets do ourselves a favor and skip the dosido and agree to disagree.

of course we can agree to disagree.


my points were to think of these:

- Alogy says: For A is B likely, But alos C, Probably D. Look also at other parts of the chart.


- B is a default character trait. C' is standard situation happens all the time. D2 is a vague word. E* is totally another work branch than said in F°.


Why can it be used as prediction for equal lives of few people born on the same street at the same time?

And in the event the neighbor has job E which isn't mentioned in their chart?


That still leaves the issue of the two individuals having shitty, okay, or great days that are synced as they should -according to astrology- experience the same cosmic effects.


By the way I already mentioned that one of my critiques of astrology is that it's vague, it's contradictory and astrologers always cast a wide net to hook as many fish (individuals) as possible. This vagueness is what makes astrology impossible for science to support as it's easily explained as a gimmick to achieve the forer effect which can then be exploited for financial gain.

On one side you have someone who gains money. On the other side you have someone who was curious to desparate about their situation. With the differenty "most likeys" and "maybes" someone bring to their lower mind, they:

- either distract themselves

- or see new perspectives.


a similar effect can be seen with "Family Constellations" which are theatrical stuff, but placebo or not people goes from one stage of their lives into another one. similar with tarot. similar with psychotherapy. similar with talking to your bffs (who not always give the best comment or advice). similar with hollywood stories apparently telling your story. all these things are mind expansion and imagination. they affect your way, but they are not commanding. you are still the one who pick the cherries. At least I see it that way.

Mhm, that's been my point. It's not scientifically valid, it's a belief system and like any belief system my stance is "If you choose to believe in then that's fine." People have been getting riled up thinking I was saying they shouldn't believe in it. Seriously, the insults, insinuations, and 'deep insights' people have thrown my way since my post have been reminiscent to the same things Christians say when I tell them I don't believe in their god. It's been fun in a sort of way but in another way it's just been redundant.

yeah, I don't know why people were that way to you. sometimes it's a matter of misunderstanding. or taking it personally.


I am skeptical to Astrology as I am skeptical to other stuff. But I enjoy and use it on my way to live my life. Every now and then I put myself in the shoes of the opponents to check what they have to say what could even be better than what I use currently.


I like your answer.

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