Two people who won't move on... WHY?

This topic was created in the Relationships & Astrology forum by Ariess on Tuesday, June 11, 2013 and has 15 replies.
What sort of placements in a chart would make two,otherwise sane people, become insane trying to get back together? My ex Sag is relentless with winning me back after we broke up a year and a half ago. It was nasty and I have so much more peace in my life without him. I'm happy with my Scorpio UNTIL I see Ex Sag and pieces of me dies wishing my family was back together. I'm petrified to officially move my life forward with the Scorp and permanently close the door to ex Sag. He is obsessive, texting me songs, 37 messages during the night, calling me during the night- most of the time he gives up unanswered begging me to come home. (In the meantime he has been with the Cancer he cheated on me with claiming she's clingy, emotional and unintelligent)
Astrology wise- why do I even consider his advances? Why would I want him back after all the mud we have been through? Is it my cancer moon clinging to the past and Venus in Taurus trying to keep the familiar? Is he relentless because of his Venus in Scorp?
I don't understand why I don't have the gall to slam that door and move forward with my happy, healthy relationship! I'm sick of being a wilted, pathetic pansy.
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Blame your Taurus in Venus.
Fixed signs do this shit to you.
Cancer moon doesn't help either. I have both placements and I hate what it does to me. You can be sane, logical, or rational any other time, but these placements make life difficult.
However, with me, once I'm with someone else, any of that residual from the last guy just kinda disappears. Maybe you should question what you could possibly be missing in the relationship with the current guy that is making you reconsider the self absorbed ex here?
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Maybe you should question what you could possibly be missing in the relationship with the current guy that is making you reconsider the self absorbed ex here?



It has nothing to do with the Scorp- sure he is a messy bachelor but - let me explain. The Scorp isnt the father of my children. I dont live in OUR home anymore. I am by no means financially secure like I was when Sag and I were together. I worked at his family business and we had a beautiful, welcoming, kid friendly home with everything we needed. Now me and the kids are in another state, still transitioning, trying to find our own home, while staying with very generous grandparents in cramped quarters. I am struggling to provide the same life for the kids and no I dont mean ipods, laptops and spending cash- Im talking about none of us have our own space, bedrooms, no outside areas to ride bikes and play, limited children to play with or places to go to have fun. I feel like I am a bad parent and if I go back to the Sag- even if we kill each other- the kids have everything to thrive.
Scorp has always given me security, absolute love and support! He is EVERYTHING *I* need but Im more worried about my children having their father.But I feel like my inability to give my kids the things I feel they should have makes me yearn for my relationship back with my Sag. Sure a lot was ugly but nothing makes me love the Sag more than looking into our sons eyes and wishing his parents were in love and together Sad
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I should also add that the Sag was NEVER a family guy. I was the mother and the father. I stayed at home. I was the ultimate susie homemaker. I cooked all day, decorated the house and was super involved in school, soccer, activities etc for the children. I was and still am extremely close to his extended family and participated/helped with more family functions/holidays/parties than Sag ever did. No- he was too busy at sporting events, parties, trips with the boys or the bar. I miss that aspect of my life with the kids. Now I never see them, Im too poor to sign them up for sports or throw birthday parties. we have no space to watch tv and talk about our day. Everything now is so hard for them and I hate it.
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Posted by Ariess
What sort of placements in a chart would make two,otherwise sane people, become insane trying to get back together? My ex Sag is relentless with winning me back after we broke up a year and a half ago. It was nasty and I have so much more peace in my life without him. I'm happy with my Scorpio UNTIL I see Ex Sag and pieces of me dies wishing my family was back together. I'm petrified to officially move my life forward with the Scorp and permanently close the door to ex Sag. He is obsessive, texting me songs, 37 messages during the night, calling me during the night- most of the time he gives up unanswered begging me to come home. (In the meantime he has been with the Cancer he cheated on me with claiming she's clingy, emotional and unintelligent)
Astrology wise- why do I even consider his advances? Why would I want him back after all the mud we have been through? Is it my cancer moon clinging to the past and Venus in Taurus trying to keep the familiar? Is he relentless because of his Venus in Scorp?
I don't understand why I don't have the gall to slam that door and move forward with my happy, healthy relationship! I'm sick of being a wilted, pathetic pansy.


I have the same problem with an ex Sag. He once told me that he refuses to stop contacting me...I told him he was a sick fuck to want to hold on to someone who DID NOT want him & I told him to leave me alone & move on. To this day he still texts "I miss you" & sends happy b-day texts...I don't respond hoping he'll get the hint. He really creeps me out now...
Venus in Scorpio = stalker.
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Posted by CluelessCancer
why is he calling the woman he cheated on you with unintelligent? What a loser. Especially since I've never met a stupid Cancer.


Well first of all he is an idiot but she is also very stupid. She is older, knew he had kids and a family and had a sexual relationship with him anyway. She even called me and tried to stop by my house while I was home with our children to tell me how he says he loves her and they are getting married as soon as I moved out of HIS house.
He couldnt deal with being a father and staying home. She is a side piece. he has flat out said to her and in front of his friends that he uses her to hurt me and likes being able to call someone up to party because she will drop everything for him. She is his ego boost.
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Posted by geminicandle
That's sad. Can you work? Do you have an education?
I feel sorry for your children the most.



Yea, youre telling me Sad I have a very crappy job that the pay is absolutely worthless. I cant make any headway because I have no help. My grandparents are too old and they are all I have in this state. Childcare is too expensive. No buses to school and we live too far away to walk so I have to be able to pick up and drop them off. I think I am getting ahead and then boom! My son needs a cavity filled or my tire blows and Im back to square one.
I was going to college for Dental Hygiene and all I have left is hands on training day school long hours for 4 consecutive semesters. Absolutely not feasible at the present time. I cant get a break anywhere in a dental office either. Ive been trying so hard but I have no contacts to get a foot in.
Whats sad is when my son brings me his piggy bank and asks if we have enough money yet to have a house with bedrooms yet. Definitely kills me.
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Posted by starlover
Venus-Mars and Venus-Pluto aspects
If they are both in fixed signs...you are effed!


How do I find this?
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Airess, I understand how you feel. I go through those feelings as well. My break up wasn't over infidelity but it happened. I feel awful because my kids farther isn't even in the country anymore and at guilt stricken. I think it is natural to feel it. My question to you, is it your kids or your own feelings? You are not in predicament that you are used to and makes you feel dependent and inadequate. Is it also your ideal of what you children need? A farther and mother together.
First, you are strong in doing what you choose to do. And crap is hard now but it will not always be. Two, are the children really benefiting from a home that is not happy? Children are more perspective then we think. When those feeling get to me, I look back several months to where my children really were emotionally to where they are now and I know I made the right decision for them. I will continue to struggle as I have to as a single parent for them. And really, I am more happier which makes them happier.
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Posted by geminicandle
PM me for info on good jobs in medical field. For example, pharmacy business is always thriving. You should go to pharmacy school!


You're kidding, right?
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Posted by rockyroadicecream
Blame your Taurus in Venus.
Fixed signs do this shit to you.
Cancer moon doesn't help either. I have both placements and I hate what it does to me. You can be sane, logical, or rational any other time, but these placements make life difficult.
However, with me, once I'm with someone else, any of that residual from the last guy just kinda disappears. Maybe you should question what you could possibly be missing in the relationship with the current guy that is making you reconsider the self absorbed ex here?


Rockyroad - HEY! I resent that! I have Taurus in both venus/mars but I definitely don't do that type of thing. I would say it's more the Cancer moon hands down.
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Posted by Xin
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Blame your Taurus in Venus.
Fixed signs do this shit to you.
Cancer moon doesn't help either. I have both placements and I hate what it does to me. You can be sane, logical, or rational any other time, but these placements make life difficult.
However, with me, once I'm with someone else, any of that residual from the last guy just kinda disappears. Maybe you should question what you could possibly be missing in the relationship with the current guy that is making you reconsider the self absorbed ex here?


Rockyroad - HEY! I resent that! I have Taurus in both venus/mars but I definitely don't do that type of thing. I would say it's more the Cancer moon hands down.
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Yes, but you're an Air sign.
Wow, OP, I checked out your chart and we have the same sun, moon, venus, and merc.
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Posted by Xin
Posted by rockyroadicecream
Blame your Taurus in Venus.
Fixed signs do this shit to you.
Cancer moon doesn't help either. I have both placements and I hate what it does to me. You can be sane, logical, or rational any other time, but these placements make life difficult.
However, with me, once I'm with someone else, any of that residual from the last guy just kinda disappears. Maybe you should question what you could possibly be missing in the relationship with the current guy that is making you reconsider the self absorbed ex here?


Rockyroad - HEY! I resent that! I have Taurus in both venus/mars but I definitely don't do that type of thing. I would say it's more the Cancer moon hands down.
Yes, but you're an Air sign.
Wow, OP, I checked out your chart and we have the same sun, moon, venus, and merc.

So you are cursed too? I'm sorry. smile
I have tried looking at a couples chart but I'm not 100% sure what time he was born.
Sun sag
Moon Taurus
Venus Scorpio
Merc sag
Mars libra
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Posted by geminicandle
PM me for info on good jobs in medical field. For example, pharmacy business is always thriving. You should go to pharmacy school!


I'm knocking on a lot of doors- I AM an Aries after all! I may not be having the best of luck but I have not been beaten. I don't give up. That's the better side of having such a trait. Something will unfold soon, my patience is just wearing very thin and then I have to deal w Sag. He called me yesterday to discuss our sons kindergarten graduation and turned that into taking me out Saturday night for dinner and a movie. No thanks! Mind you he just went on a date w a new girl Tuesday. Smh. My Scorp is home and I just want to be in his arms this weekend. But then I see or hear Sag, thank god I don't like drugs bc I would easily be an addict. My will with those there menfolk is weaaaaak Tongue
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Posted by Ariess



It has nothing to do with the Scorp- sure he is a messy bachelor but - let me explain. The Scorp isnt the father of my children. I dont live in OUR home anymore. I am by no means financially secure like I was when Sag and I were together. I worked at his family business and we had a beautiful, welcoming, kid friendly home with everything we needed. Now me and the kids are in another state, still transitioning, trying to find our own home, while staying with very generous grandparents in cramped quarters. I am struggling to provide the same life for the kids and no I dont mean ipods, laptops and spending cash- Im talking about none of us have our own space, bedrooms, no outside areas to ride bikes and play, limited children to play with or places to go to have fun. I feel like I am a bad parent and if I go back to the Sag- even if we kill each other- the kids have everything to thrive.
Scorp has always given me security, absolute love and support! He is EVERYTHING *I* need but Im more worried about my children having their father.But I feel like my inability to give my kids the things I feel they should have makes me yearn for my relationship back with my Sag. Sure a lot was ugly but nothing makes me love the Sag more than looking into our sons eyes and wishing his parents were in love and together Sad

The last thing you need to be doing in the living situation you are in is thinking of being in any relationship. Your relationship ended for a reason, the kids already experienced the trauma of the breakup, the physical separation and their new living conditions. Why are you in cramped living conditions? Is this man not paying child support or alimony to get you on your feet? How long after you and the father of the children split before you started up with the Scorp.
One other thing..when the Scorp finds out you have been corresponding in the way you describe with your ex..he will walk and or make your life even tougher with stress. The kids don't need that. Get your act together, make the kids your priority and find a decent place to live. I assume you are working right?
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