Morals has a dilemma

This topic was created in the Scorpio forum by missmorals on Tuesday, August 15, 2006 and has 94 replies.
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I know I know...doesn't happen often but when it does...wham bham thank you ma'am...
So went to a coffee with a scorpion fella I met about 3 months ago..Coffee was great (I paid for the bloomin thing myself..tight git)..LOL..
Well ok..he was handsome, witty and charming..Evening was fine..we parted company no kisses no nothing..I am a laaaaaaaaady..
Problem: All he ever talks about is getting it on. At first flattering, now annoying. So he's been wanting to see me again for the last 2 weeks..I keep putting it off, as you know my track record of actually phoning/chasing someone is zilch. I warned him time and time again that he needs to talk about something other than sex!..he keeps telling me he really likes me and that he's fed up with me not making any effort whatsoever about meeting or phoning..Last night he actually used my name instead of babe or hun or whatever..so that means its serious and he's pissed off..
Now I hear through the grapevine that he's actually really tight with his money (I kinda noticed, having paid for coffee myself) and secondly that he's lying about his age..I don't like to listen to others as I am a firm believer of finding out for yourself..
Last night I thought he was being geniune..he accused me of interrogating him and told me that I am suited to a career in Law...LOL..I agreed..He said I am being honest with you and geniune..Why don't you meet me and my eyes will tell you all that you need to know..and if you don't believe me, ask cos I am an open book...He said despite whatever it is thats holding you back, I will tell you that I am different with you cos I can be myself, you have a presence and a beautiful persona...Uh hum..(cough)..He said I never show my feelings and that he's always telling me how he feels..Thankfully for 2 days now he's stopped harping on about sex and is actually not talking to me at all..well playing hard to get more like..He's online but won't talk to me..keeps changing his picture..SO I decided to tease him..I said not talkative today..he said I dunno, guess not...so I replied with "ok, will leave you to your strop, have a good day"...I think thats pissed him off even more..Ooops!
Now, I can't deal with this full on sexual innuendos etc and coming on real strong..I think he's hiding something behind that witty nature..Nobody knows anything about him Somethings telling me he's not the saint but the sinner only interested in this one thing..
What do you reckon guys and gals..
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And because I have been annoying him today he said "go away, your unusual"...
LMAO..Aww poor poppet..
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Leave him alone.
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Lol ok...
I am not pestering him...I only did it today.
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MM smile What's good girl...
But it seems as though you may need to take a step back. Is he mad because you won't sleep with him? Too Bad! He will get over it. But for now. Just let it flow...
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I don't actually know. I just wasn't comfortable with his full on sexual thing. I want to actually have a decent conversation with the guy and progress slowly..I know he's capable of it..but as of yet..he hasn't shown me that side..He seems to be flying in there all guns blazing..But he's hiding something. I guess he's being secretive..I want to know what about..slightly concerned at the reputation he seems to have..I am not interested in flighty relationships...
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his comment, "go away you're unusual" should tell you that he's not quite mature enough to handle serious conversations. Maybe his comfort level is sex because that's all he can offer a lady...
If that's the case, you don't need that or anything he may bring with it.
And come on, he can't even pay for your coffee???
No, thanks.
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He met his match, he can't easily do to her what he is so used to doing to other women.
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Yes. I think it was appalling him having not offered to pay for coffee despite him pushing me for a date in the first place. Thats one thing that annoyed me. When I asked him last night what he intends to do on the second date (had to add, not with me!) he said dinner and movies. Conversation that follows below:
ME: and will I be footing the bill myself, you know seeing as you didn't even offer to pay for coffee the first time around. Hardly a great first impression is it?
HIM: I do what I want, I am stubborn...
ME: well so do I but what does that have to do with who pays for coffee?
HIM: We'll take it in turns
ME: The first turns usually the guys or the person requesting the date
HIM: Don't tell me what to do
ME: I am just stating the opinion of about 95% of men on their first date
HIM: Your so bloody patronising
ME: LOL..OK
Silence
HIM: So when do I get to see you
ME: Erm if thats your attitude then not anytime soon
HIM: You know, I am making an effort here, can't see you phoning me or texting me, so far its all been on my side, let me take you out and I will prove it to you. Despite whatever you've heard..I really like you.
Hmmmmm...
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Seems like you've laid it all out for him, and he's still 'saying' he wants to prove it to you, but not much actual 'doing'. Even if 'doing' only means putting away the stubborn attitude. Phoning and texting will only get him so far, attitude will take him the rest of the way. I might point that out to him.
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errr... well, looks like you already did. Tongue
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Yeah I guess my point was that is this all a game of lets see if I can get her into my bed. That isn't going to happen. He knows that..You get so many different varieties of Scorpio men or just men in general. He definitely chose the wrong approach!.
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you're right to be skeptical. dunno, if he talks about sex as much as you say he does, sounds pretty iffy. and gosh, i wouldn't really know how to figure that out other than try him on the date and see what he's like. if he's really serious and you're unsure of him then you'll take it slow, through many dates to get to know each other better and he'll be happy to do what makes you comfortable.
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He seems like an total @ss. Why would you want anything to do with him?
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Miss Morals..i would say go out with him a second time, even if it's the last and see what happens , make your choice then...You have nothing to lose.
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He can do all the talking he wants, he knows he's not going to get you into bed, you have made that perfectly clear from what your saying here.. He might be just testing you..
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At one point or another every man is a total ass..the same way at one time or another every girl is a total bitch. Just happens..
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I'm with Juicy...go out one more time, but make sure you have cash on you. Oh, and have an escape plan. Have a girlfriend call you an hour into the meeting and use "code". If it's going OK, then play it off. If it's sucking, then you can tell this doof that you have to go because your dog ran away.
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I agree with a couple of the others. Go out with him again. Let him prove himself. I mean because to be honest. Him not offering to pay for the coffee would have turned me off a little. It seems like you were turned off a little but everyone deserves a second chance. Also let him know you are not asking him to do anything you are not willing to do for him (that is Scorpio nature baby)
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I say make him beg somemore see how long he will chase you. LOL
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True, but what does she have to lose? If anything she can abuse him at the end of the "date" if it's not going the way she thought it would...
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The coffee would have turned me off to, to be honest BUT you never know, at least you know he's not the type of sucker guy to blow his cash? trying to find a bright side to that one..lol
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Maybe he's just being cautious though? ...
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Ok yes the coffee thing is....well just a turn off..but maybe he's just making sure she's not out for the money, by putting a little test with the coffee..Not like he didn't pay for the movies and going out to eat...Know what i'm saying?
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LOL aww it's okay! you're aloud to be! =D

Yes his attitude isn't exactly the most attractive...i'll agree with you on that, but she's setting him straight so..lol
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Being cautious and being cheap don't hand in hand.
We all can be cautious but this guy pursued her and didn't even offer to buy her $ 4 coffee!
Come on...Maybe because I'm Taurus and I'm practical, but I believe that whoever asks should pay. I usually test the guy and I will reach for my wallet and 9 times out of 10, the guy has said "I got this" and you graciously thank him.
But this guy didn't even offer from what I can gather.
He's probably the kind of guy who goes to McDonalds and stocks up on the ketchup packets because he doesn't want to buy a bottle of Heinz from the store.
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Being cautious and being cheap don't hand in hand.
We all can be cautious but this guy pursued her and didn't even offer to buy her $ 4 coffee!
Come on...Maybe because I'm Taurus and I'm practical, but I believe that whoever asks should pay. I usually test the guy and I will reach for my wallet and 9 times out of 10, the guy has said "I got this" and you graciously thank him.
But this guy didn't even offer from what I can gather.
He's probably the kind of guy who goes to McDonalds and stocks up on the ketchup packets because he doesn't want to buy a bottle of Heinz from the store.
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sorry for the double post.
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LMAO @ KETCHUP PACKETS.

I'm just trying to look at it from other way's, but that's funny.
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hmmmmmmmmm....me dunno what to think Sad
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hmmm, that's a good thought, Pluto. That makes a lot of sense. It's like you figured out what his motive was so he's doing a switch on you to adamantly prove to you that he's not just trying to score with you only to score with you.
hmm...interesting
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I think she is challenging him....
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hey, ask him about the ketchup packets! I bet he has a drawer full of 'em.
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lmao... that just might a kinky thing he likes though Winking
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doesn't your brain hurt?lol
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Actually once you have figured them out, they're very easy...it's just comming to that point...In my opinion & experience...
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Scorpios are unchartered waters for me.
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you know what i do?.....Get a surfing board and ride em! Winking LOL
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ooh my brain is so full...of scorpio right now...n sex offcource! lol

LOL
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surf's up! gnarly
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*** And in the beginning, one is usually trying to impress the person... I'd hate to see this dude later!
Exactly!
lol @ ketchup packets
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LOL @ All comments...dont you worry guys I got it all figured. Just wanted to see if all agreed that it was rather cheap of him not to pay..but then again we do live in a time where us women want to be equal to men!..lol..still no excuse..not for a first date..
Yes immense turn off but I think he may have been burned in the past and well he was being cautious..I am not making any excuses for him as I have already told him what I thought of him not paying for coffee..so he fully knows..Now if that was me, I would've died of embarrassment..but each to their own...Its wrong to psycho analyse at this stage because I've only been on the one date with the guy. He was utterly sweet not arrogant or anything..and did look after me.
I think he was initially looking to get laid, then he realised what a fuckin catch I am and decided that ok, lets still pursue and test how far this woman is prepared to go..Little does he know that he's met his match and then some!
Lets see how far he's prepared to go. My wonderful scorpio friend in USA said that if he really likes you, trust me he will be prepared to go a very long way..at the moment, he's testing you and establishing a level with you. He's obviously used to getting what he wants and now he's come to a standstill..
"does anyone else not see how cute this kind of interplay looks ????"
Lol @ bling..it was funny..He was in a strop so I was trying to annoy him by asking what was up with him..I could tell he was pissed off from the conversation the night before. He never comes onto msn during the day but ever since our date, he's been on there constantly. He was on there all day so i thought lets test him. Told him I am going into a meeting he said Fine...go..so i went offline...He went offline too..Lol..
Thing with me, I am not sensitive so I am not easily offended. I am very thick-skinned and things like that don't bother me. I just laugh it off. Then I saw scoriponlady's topic on dxp about pluto so i decided to drop that into conversation with him..I said hey did you know that pluto is being renamed to Zena..I am protesting..he said why..so i said its our planet, planet of the underworld..He came back with They can't change pluto, or they'll feel the wrath of uranus!..LMAO...
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LMAO @ HP & Ask him about ketchup packets...
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trust me he will be prepared to go a very long way..
I guess I'm confused. If someone tells me to go away because i'm usual, I don't take that as "I like you, can we get it on?"
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Now if that was me, I would've died of embarrassment

LMAO MISS MORALS..thats what i was thinking when you said that, i would never show my face again lol
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unusual doesn't bother me either..i know i can be straight off my rocka' sometimes..lol
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HP & GL - Being unusual is a compliment to me. I don't care, because I am quite bizarre..and go away is an endearing term from a scorpio trust me, they want you around..its almost like a cute way of saying the opposite..I wasn't even talking to the guy..I was heavily annoying him..he just wasn't getting me..lol..I can be eccentric at times..I can totally tell the difference between "go away" and "go away"...LOL..If it was meant in a horrid way, he would find his penis in a dustbin liner around his neck smile
Well I am a lady but only in public..I guess this is a public forum but you guys are ok..I like you.
I currently have a Taurus and two capricorns after me too. Life really is peachy..
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Thing with me, I am not sensitive so I am not easily offended. I am very thick-skinned and things like that don't bother me.
Yes you are MM and you are also a thinker and you thought of the right words to used to make him talk with you. I am very proud of you for the scropion that you are.
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Aww thanks SL...I'll make someone a good husband one day Winking
Pluto_muse..indeed..Its all good in the hood as they say..whoever THEY are!..lol
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"Its all good in the hood as they say..whoever THEY are"
People in the hood say it MM...LOL

"I'll make someone a good husband one day"
You and I both know that but do the men that we deal with know that?
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