Hey all, Haven't been on in a while. I has been a good and a bad couple of months. More recently it has turned bad, last 3 weeks or so, and I am a wreck. Don't know what to do any more. Anyhow, I need some help. My Scorp, well, she is starting to see a guy which is also a Scorp and she is trying to show it but also hide it. I am confused as fuck with her behavior but I know about the guy. He is basically her age less 10 days... I love her, and I know she has feelings but I am so so broken atm I don't know how to handle this anymore. Just before she started stuffing around she was frantically making contact with me and visiting and texting me. All good, I didn't feel different and she acted normal when we where together, like she wanted to be with me since she was so calm and happy to be taken care of and suddenly she got super emotional and very very sensitive to absolutely everything. So when she would come to me, she would be annoyed and angry and tired out of her mind, and when she left should be ok, calm and all smiles well fed and pampered a bit. I feel I am strung around atm and I need to stop this. But this is going to go to hell all the way or to heaven, I just don't know how to handle this. How can I just talk to her and let her know how I feel without sending her packing? Because I feel that she is very very gullible atm and this other guy has now locked on and is trying to exploit it. This isn't the girl I love with all my heart, this is a steam pool of fuck knows what. Also, I put myself in this mess, so please don't go hating on me. I know this is my choice, I know I made it, and I know why I made this choice. No person matters this much to me as she does and I just want to let her know. If she then goes on with this guy, so be it. Then I'll pickup the pieces and try my best to also move on. I just don't want to give up on her Any positive advice will be appreciated please please please.
Signed Up: Mar 15, 2013 Comments: 0 · Posts: 3979 · Topics: 6
I mean, if she's looking elsewhere, its pretty much over isn't it? Just remain friends with her. When you sincerely love someone like it seems you do her, you can still care for them as a friend, be there for them, etc. I would completely end all hopes of romance though. Something is just fundamentally imbalanced if you are that into her, and she's still looking. Maybe she's immature, confused, etc. - whatever it is, she isn't ready for the kind of relationship you're looking for. So I would offer only platonic love....Maybe in a decade or more, when she's all grown up, you can take it seriously again. I fought for a woman once, and she kept doing the same thing over and over again. She'd come crying and begging after the other guy dropped her, she realized he didn't care as much, etc., and I took her back several times. It was torture and I'd never put myself through that again. What's love really worth without faithfulness? Not much IMO.
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Also, you shouldn't be angry at the other Scorp. He did you a favor and revealed the true nature of her love. On a practical level, you should be thankful. If he can steer her heart away from you, there are probably others out there who can do the same - the later on down the line it happens, the more you'll suffer.
Posted by Whatu Go and tell him to get the fuck away from your girl.
+1 that's your woman right? FIGHT!!! take charge and show those HORNS.
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The logic here being--? If she's "his woman" he shouldn't have to fight over her; she should be perfectly capable to make him her priority all on her own. What's there worth fighting for? Unless he's into attention whores. I wouldn't lift a finger.
Posted by Whatu Go and tell him to get the fuck away from your girl.
+1 that's your woman right? FIGHT!!! take charge and show those HORNS.
The logic here being--? If she's "his woman" he shouldn't have to fight over her; she should be perfectly capable to make him her priority all on her own. What's there worth fighting for? Unless he's into attention whores. I wouldn't lift a finger.
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well my husband does say i lack logic/am illogical. So i guess i have NO point at all.
Posted by Whatu Go and tell him to get the fuck away from your girl.
+1 that's your woman right? FIGHT!!! take charge and show those HORNS.
The logic here being--? If she's "his woman" he shouldn't have to fight over her; she should be perfectly capable to make him her priority all on her own. What's there worth fighting for? Unless he's into attention whores. I wouldn't lift a finger.
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This ^^^^ If I'm your woman I'm certainly NOT seeing another man. Plus if she did this without coming to you and having a discussion about what she was feeling first it shows a certain amount of disrespect for you and your relationship do you not think?
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Posted by starlover Tell your husband he is probably talking about himself. You have lots of logic girl thanks, star. but he's got virgo rising and virgo planets.It makes him heavily logical. crap. this is about omagal. /1st house problems. (mememe)
Thanks for the input so far. I really really don't want to do this ;( So is the common verdict to simply turn around and walk away? I guess no explanation would be needed in anycase... Fuck I love her but I absolutely hate this. I resent my own feelings. Guess it is time to work on my self ;(
Posted by starlover lol i was married to a virgo.. * Omega, if she is going to be with a Scorpio, i wish her luck....love being one myself but dont want that constant mirror thank you. Maybe she is about to be blasted with some much needed karma? Sending some light to you x
Thanks star. Kinda need some light right about now.
Any positive advice will be appreciated please please please.
Marry her. As they say... put a ring on it.
Then he will be here 5 years later. "Scorpio Wife divorcing me for a Scorpio"
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In this case, I would defnitely be posting such a thread from jail... Maybe it is way better now than later since at that point I'll literally express the saying from dust to dust. Strongly suspect the last big bang was because of shit like this...
Posted by tiziani You should be going to the bar with that other guy buying each other beers. You both just saved each other five years of your lives. Ice cold logic.
Posted by tiziani You should be going to the bar with that other guy buying each other beers. You both just saved each other five years of your lives. Ice cold logic.
Maybe so... but I'll still whack him...
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Did she actually cheat with the guy? If so, I think you should completely vanish.
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OMG Omagalll, welcome home. lol. I was thinking of you yesterday like asking myself *where's omagalll and how's his relationship going with that Scorp lady* Honestly, I am shocked now. Here's my advice before she leave let HER know that you love her... and that's it. Do it! Scorpio will always come back, I promise you. Just don't hurt her verbally. Omg sorry to hear this. My heart is heavy. Be strong.
OMG Omagalll, welcome home. lol. I was thinking of you yesterday like asking myself *where's omagalll and how's his relationship going with that Scorp lady* Honestly, I am shocked now. Here's my advice before she leave let HER know that you love her... and that's it. Do it! Scorpio will always come back, I promise you. Just don't hurt her verbally. Omg sorry to hear this. My heart is heavy. Be strong.
Thanks, much appreciated. Great to know their are people that you can ask for help even though you don't know them. Ok, I'll try and do that. But I will be honest, it scares me since laying it out like that could send her running for the hills. But then again, if I can control my emotions it might be the best possible thing to do before leaving her be.
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Omagalll, She might run but she's going to hold on that *love* from you. She sees, you have *COURAGE* to say that even she is leaving. Don't be scared. It will only push her to leave you once you don't do your best. Spit it out. but don't chase her once she leave after doing your best. Let her be. Give her space....she will comeback.
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starlover, Oh yes Scorpio needs to cut the ties depending how the break up has been agreed. If she comes back to him and he moved on... well, it will be her loss. but to some extent.. Taurus people have a hard time letting go of their past. Scorpio needs someone who can reassure them a love till death... Oh my taurus man and I been through this back & forth... but 1 thing I learned, this taurus men will hurt you emotionally, if they can't see that reaction and walk through the door.. they will try to reconcile and said things to fix what has been broken. and I guess Omagalll, did something that caused her for leaving him. Scorpio Don't leave just like that. well, we are here to help him.
Posted by M143 starlover, Oh yes Scorpio needs to cut the ties depending how the break up has been agreed. If she comes back to him and he moved on... well, it will be her loss. but to some extent.. Taurus people have a hard time letting go of their past. Scorpio needs someone who can reassure them a love till death... Oh my taurus man and I been through this back & forth... but 1 thing I learned, this taurus men will hurt you emotionally, if they can't see that reaction and walk through the door.. they will try to reconcile and said things to fix what has been broken. and I guess Omagalll, did something that caused her for leaving him. Scorpio Don't leave just like that. well, we are here to help him.
That is just the thing. We where fine, she would call in the middle of the night, or wake me with sweet calls. She would visit often and we would be playful, watch movies, do some work together, random sms messages for each other about each other and what we see and are doing. Then suddenly, nothing... I call, she doesn't answer. I text, no reply for 3 weeks. Then out of nowhere she sends me a text saying she has been meaning to call... a few days later she arrives at my workplace just to see if I am ok. Wth? I told her I miss her and that I want her, and she melts away. 2 days later the new fucker pitches and she is sensitive as shit telling me she has met a new friend. Call her and ask her to come over and she says no, I have other plans. A day later she tells me about the time she had with this new guy and his friends. Then she asks me why do I sound so pissed and disappointed and I am like defaq! So, please tell me how this came to be? She texts me to find out if I am ok, been sick aswell, and then goes out with public asshole number 1, spinning a web of lies. I invite her for sunday dinner, she agrees and later lies her way out of it. He invites her and she jumps... -_-
Posted by tiziani You should be going to the bar with that other guy buying each other beers. You both just saved each other five years of your lives. Ice cold logic.
Maybe so... but I'll still whack him...
I would be careful with that. Most Scorp men don't play around if you physically threaten their person. You may be unpleasantly surprised at what he can do to you - and he would be in the right in a court of law. Just giving you a fair warning.
So, please tell me how this came to be? She texts me to find out if I am ok, been sick aswell, and then goes out with public asshole number 1, spinning a web of lies. I invite her for sunday dinner, she agrees and later lies her way out of it. He invites her and she jumps... -_-
She's the only one that can explain her behavior, and she may not even be able to do that. The point is that she's not committed to you, and not consistent, and you're just torturing your self to continue. The sooner you back out IMO, the less damage you're going to take, and the less baggage brought into your next relationship. I doubt its merely someone else making her "horny", but even if it is, getting horny is to be expected when you make a commitment to hold out like that (which I've done myself). A Scorpio who is committed can handle a period of abstinence as good as, if not better than, anyone else. As passionate and sexual as they can be, they can be just as strong in abstinence if that's what they want, and many astrologers say this about Scorps, plus I've seen it in the lives of several. Were this the crux of the matter, the deeper issue would be why her "getting horny" isn't directed at you as opposed to another man, and the answer is probably just that, unfortunately, she is not as strongly connected to you as you are to her. You need to move on romantically, and find someone who is as serious, stable, and committed as you are. The latest from her actually sounds like she's toying with you a bit emotionally. I highly doubt that she'd really be confused as to why you'd be upset about her turning down plans with you, hanging with the new guy, etc.
Not all men stir the passions, but when they are stirred we tend to go for it--its the stirring of passions that creates the horny. Sure Scorpios can go forever abstinent when need be--but its the one that brings us out of that way of thinking that will peak our interest. Speaking for myself--I have found very few men who have even got close to stirring my passions. In other words---horny isn't directed at everyone.
Well, count me as someone who is also selectively horny. But I've still known plenty of Scorpios who are abstinent for religious reasons, with the love of their life, until after they are married. I actually know a Scorpio/Scorpio couple who did this so I'm sure it was doubly difficult. If the religious values are there and really that strong, and even if the object of your affection is right in front of you, it can be done. Its difficult, but that's the point. The perceived strength of the value outweighs the strength of the temptation.
"Call her and ask her to come over and she says no, I have other plans. A day later she tells me about the time she had with this new guy and his friends. Then she asks me why do I sound so pissed and disappointed and I am like defaq!" Don't take this the wrong way, but no woman who is actually in a relationship with a man asks that question. I honestly don't think Omaga and this Scorp are in a love relationship. It's been more of a slow simmer that has never been agreed upon to be TOGETHER. Has there been any real physical affection? And no, buddy hugs and cuddles don't count. I'm talking passionate, intimate kissing? Physical, intimate exchanges like gazing into each other's eyes and saying sweet nothings to EACH OTHER. Being the good guy friend who provides food and support is all well and good, but a woman is going to look to a man who she can be intimate with--and that doesn't mean sex necessarily. Another thing that I have been a little bit confused about is that there are too many questions. Too many wondering if the Scorpio likes him, etc. Trust me, when a Scorpio woman is into you, there will be no doubt. In fact, she might very well blow off her male friend to run off to be with her crush. Her love will be all consuming and not many things will get in the way of her being with him. At least this is the nature of the beast in the becoming a couple stage. If you find yourself having to do too much to attract and hold onto a Scorpio, then its not "real". At least not with any Scorps I know.
Don't tell me it is too late ;( ;( ;( Anyway, I need to nip tjis now and get it over with Done! All or nothing. Can someone advise me how I should approach her to talk this out and get it over with please? I am thinking within the next 12 hours I would like to have her for a sit down and get this all out. It sounds rushed now... but I want her to know what I feel and also want to get to feeling like my self again with or without her :/ Tomorrow she is seeing the guy the afternoon. But I thought of asking her for a chat or coffee like 10 am tomorrow. Then I would just like to layout my feelings, my intentions and work on taking healing steps from their either way. Please advise? ;(
Ok firstly. It feels like we have been hanging, and I think we both feel this way. We don't call each other as friends nor do we call ourselves partners. We have had 2 occasions where we got a bit hot and heavy but we both are sensible enough to stop. One occasion led to her calling me in the middle of the night and waking me early the next morning with a call as well. I get what is being said, but I have told her so many times that she is the one for me, it ain't funny. So, last night she came by on my request, prior to setting the 12 hour deadline. We had a chat, made dinner together and just had casual conv. She was not really her self since she hadn't slept wel the entire week since she keeps partying with a-hole till the early hours of the morning. So she dropped a few words, since she wasn't focusing, and I went at it to get some answers. Initially she was a bit dumb founded, again not focusing she just about passed out next to me, but actually told me a lot of what has been happening. She also mentioned that she knows that we don't see each other as often anymore and she does feel bad. She also said that if she felt forced to be with me or that it didn't feel right to be with me then she wouldn't even bother to be there. I told her I want her to be with me more often, and she giggled and said, but I am right here right now. Again, not focusing much. Anyway, the night ended awkward but she said she wants to see me soon, and then under sleep deprivation pretty much just got in her car and left lol Weirdest sensation ever. It was after this that I set the deadline for this morning when I suspected that she would be well rested since she didn't leave here at 2 am as she does with Mr Ahole. She really sounds confused. Like she is enjoying the company with this guy and his friends, but also feels that she doesn't fit in atm. This is what prompted me to set the deadline.
Jump to this morning. Firstly no fucking sleep, for obvious reasons. Largely my night was filled with praying that what must happen should now happen. Was up early, thought, fuck it, I am going jogging, for the first time in ages and did a quick 5 mile jog. (Damn Scorps awaken so weird ass energy in poeple.) Got back, cleaned up house, and myself. Set out so decent clothes etc. Called her just before 10 am, no answer. (Praying again) Called about 45 min later, same story. Didn't leave a voice mail, thought it would be better. So I went home and was just feeling helpless. At a few min to 12 she texts me and tells me she saw I called but when she calls the calls don't come through. So I called her, I told her that I wanted to talk to her about some stuff that I think needs clearing up. She tells me, sure when? So I said well as soon as we possibly can, I wanted to earlier but we are now both caught up in other plans as well. She pauses for a min and tells me, she wants to, but she isn't going to be able to get everything done atm, and tomorrow won't work either (Going offroad with the fucker which I don't like one bit. Already told her she can tell him I am going to skin him if something happens to her. She was actually surprised but what ever) So she said, monday will also be a killer (Again a hole is double booking...) but that she would like to come by after work. That leaves me with 2 days to get my act together, calm down and just re-align my self before spilling my guts. Any advice?
You are right. I am a mess, and it is my own fault. Wish I made my love for her clearer. Then again I wish I never felt these feelings. How do I go about handeling the situation if (big if mind you ) she contacts me again? I told her I won't give up on her, and now I am going to do just that. ;((
Apart of me wants to just close this chapter, but I really don't know how to do this... I am actually contemplating moving away about 150 miles east from here for a few reasons. But this is going to kill me unless I can just pour my heart out and bury this somewhere else.
Posted by tiziani Actually to be dead straight with you, if you went about it the way most of the Scorp women said, I would have to tip my hat to you.
plus you should really just sleep with her.
That way you'll be free knowing you gave it your all.
you've reached a stage where you're blaming and beating yourself up, and that's a LONG road to internalising a lot of things unnecessarily.
Ok, I actually get what you are saying. Apart from the sleep with her comment, what else do you suggest? I seem to remember you being wise in a similar matter?
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Omagaiii: this is NOT your fault, shes to blame for putting a great guy like you in a rut and choosing someone else. As for fighting for her, all you've been doing IS fighting for her affection and attention. You need to draw the line, especially since you 2 arent official. There is only so much you can give without getting anything in return. I feel like telling you to "let go" is the same thing as saying "kill yourself" to you (exaggerating a bit lol). You are attached to her and the whole "scorp and taurus off the charts chemistry" doesnt help either. So what you can do is STRAIGHT UP tell her how you feel about her and let it all out. Then pull away and let her be, if she chooses to get hurt then its on her and shes a grown a $ $ woman not a little girl who needs her hand held. Believe me when i say, you have done literally everything you can to get her.
Thanks Gem I tried to get her Sat and we would have had a chat this evening but... Anyway, my spydie sense is tingeling. I suspect that with in the next 2 days we are going to cross paths... So I am just praying for release and that must happen will happen. But I am alreadt losing out, so I have nothing to fear. What she is doing now is even worse than flatout rejection. So yes, she won't come to my house again, nope, we are going to a secluded place where I can let go in a calm way and return to my abode I made her home with dignity. I needed her help with a project I am doing, but I guess I started alone I can end it alone. Her stuff are done, but whatever.
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Omagalll, lol. Project. Lol. That is what my taurus man said when he broke up with me. Then he was chasing telling he is alone doing his project for years. I just replied that he threw me out to from his pad and I left. Lol. Then he invited me to come to his pad and He kept saying he missed me. Then he did stupid thing again. And again he broke up with me saying he did not love me... 2nd time around and this is The longest break up that goes 4 months. Then back again. Taurus men loves drama,I think.
But hey we are still together until now. The drama is over. He began to accept me of who I am. I am not submitted scorpia. I am trying. Lol
Well, ok. But she has been part of a very big deal in my life for a while. I am establishing new agricultural farms in my country to see if it can be done and if we can use this process to better the lives of all communities. So this is an important thing to me and to a large extent she was flattered when I told her I want her with me on this. I don't know about your man, I hate drama. More recently I started cutting out people out of my life due to the drama and tension they created between me and my Scorp. She was shocked, and I told her that I don't care about people who want to hurt her or us and that I made a decision to have her. If they don't respect my decision, for what ever reason, then I don't need them, I only need her. She keeps testing this part of me, and the answer remains the same. Despite her knowing this, it sometimes feels like she doesn't understand why I would want to be with such a 'pale' little flower. Yet I see a secret rose garden.
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hahaha. Omagall, lol. I am laughing while reading this. My Taurus man just send me *rose garden* now. lol. oh I love my man... First, ask her what she wants. You can get your answer right away.Scorpio are really confused. It takes a courageous man to stand beside Scorpio woman. Taurus people cannot express it but just actions. Scorpio needs to hear it and then Action.
hahaha. Omagall, lol. I am laughing while reading this. My Taurus man just send me *rose garden* now. lol. oh I love my man... First, ask her what she wants. You can get your answer right away.Scorpio are really confused. It takes a courageous man to stand beside Scorpio woman. Taurus people cannot express it but just actions. Scorpio needs to hear it and then Action.
Thanks for the insight. Just opened up something to me.
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Omagalll, Honestly, Taurus men are very loving people. My man pampered me everything. I can't complain anything other than he wanted me to stop working. Scorpio are career oriented people. living life just lying on the bed is not our goal. It made us sick. We like adventurous life style . My man just love watching me while he is doing all the cooking, giving ride back & forth and washing clothes.... these made me QUEEN. lol. but I am not happy if I just do all these chores and seeing him 24/7. lol. Scorpio loves fulfilling life and success. If you like to win back your Scorpio woman just don't contact her anymore. This NC thing will trigger her. She is going to miss you... but depends on the situation. If she hated you that much will probably she won't comeback. what is her birthday? Scorpio hates boredom. This kill inside so better our partner loves outdoor routine not everyday but atleast 3 days a week. Boredom could kill a relationship.
Omagalll, Honestly, Taurus men are very loving people. My man pampered me everything. I can't complain anything other than he wanted me to stop working. Scorpio are career oriented people. living life just lying on the bed is not our goal. It made us sick. We like adventurous life style . My man just love watching me while he is doing all the cooking, giving ride back & forth and washing clothes.... these made me QUEEN. lol. but I am not happy if I just do all these chores and seeing him 24/7. lol. Scorpio loves fulfilling life and success. If you like to win back your Scorpio woman just don't contact her anymore. This NC thing will trigger her. She is going to miss you... but depends on the situation. If she hated you that much will probably she won't comeback. what is her birthday? Scorpio hates boredom. This kill inside so better our partner loves outdoor routine not everyday but atleast 3 days a week. Boredom could kill a relationship.
19 November I get that. I have made a few attempts at getting her out with me. Go flying? Nope. Want to go clay pigeon shooting? No, I have other things planned. Hey I am having a BBQ today with close friends I want you to meet. No reply. So I don't know. The past 3 months it actually picked up. We went out atleast 3 times a week. And then suddenly she goes MIA. 2 weeks later and we are spending time together again. I know more of what she wants than most. So not really a problem there. Ok, I can do NC. But what do I do when she does open communication, because she will. I doubt I will be over her by then in anycase. Sit her down and tell her everything? Turn away? (Which I can't get to doing in anycase)
Posted by tiziani You should be going to the bar with that other guy buying each other beers. You both just saved each other five years of your lives. Ice cold logic.
Maybe so... but I'll still whack him...
I would be careful with that. Most Scorp men don't play around if you physically threaten their person. You may be unpleasantly surprised at what he can do to you - and he would be in the right in a court of law. Just giving you a fair warning.
Posted by IrresistableScorp We had the Taurus David who used to come here. He had a crush on a Scorpio woman and she hadn't communicated with him for a few weeks. He slowly started seething and finally blew his top BULL style ! He took the train to her house and made a dramatic display of possession of her. I think he said something like he likes her and he's not leaving until she tells him what she wants. Mind you these two had been physically together. But I'm pretty sure all the Scorpio women collected sighed and felt all tingly after reading that. Such Passion! For all the sophistication we like to think we have, a well timed "your my girl!" Melts our toes. Just saying. You might have to bring out the inner Tauro. You know it's in there.
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This is the best advice imo Buttttt at this rate youre taking too long :/
lol, I am taking to long? Really? I have been pulling every card I can the past 2 years, and I am now pulling straws the past 2 weeks or so, since I am outa cards. If she wants to go then she can leave. I am more of a man than she will ever meet and also more human than she currently feels. I also deserve to be happy and treated right.
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Posted by OmagaIII I have been pulling every card I can the past 2 years, and I am now pulling straws the past 2 weeks or so, since I am outa cards. If she wants to go then she can leave. I am more of a man than she will ever meet and also more human than she currently feels. I also deserve to be happy and treated right.
Posted by OmagaIII I have been pulling every card I can the past 2 years, and I am now pulling straws the past 2 weeks or so, since I am outa cards. If she wants to go then she can leave. I am more of a man than she will ever meet and also more human than she currently feels. I also deserve to be happy and treated right.
This is how you should have ended the OP.
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Your probably very right. But it is easier said than done. She might (might not) be able to just sweep two years under a rug; Me on the other hand, I love too much to be able to just do that. Especially after what I told her about not giving up and being the man who sticks to what he says.
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