My Scorpio man...makes me feel? (Page 2)

Lol.

And thanks neuro! Come to Scorpio form for love/feels advice, gets welcomed IBS advice and sprints with it...

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Posted by Agentgem24
That was actually the exact description I meant when I said "not nice".

Blunt?

pass it to the left

Oh see wtf! you scorp influenced people and your transformative changin' shit on me all the time. Where the fuck did you come from? how long have you been that name? Why the fuck is everything different?

Lol.

I dunno a little over a month or so? 😉

Posted by Agentgem24

It's the opposite. I am more manipulative BECAUSE I get away with it. He's kind of a push over with me. He can rule a firm hand but if I'm silent or pout he will say, "are you mad at me? Please don't be mad at me" etc. I have no idea why I'm like that with him, I did it to my Leo ex too because he let me get away with it...

I hope you plan to work on this. It will get tired, real quick. I can just see your Scorp's reaction the day you push that too far....

There is a difference between someone appeasing you and actually being manipulated.

Posted by Neurotoxin
Tread carefully. To assume you are able to manipulate a Scorpio at will is foolish. You may find you've been manipulated into THINKING you're getting your way...until it's too late.

I've said it before and I will say it again...Scorpios are masters of the long game. We have the patience to lay seige to your feelings and your ego until the walls come down and we are free to plunder.

You may genuinely manipulate him into getting your way once or twice. He might not even realize it. But most likely he knows what you are doing. He's allowing you tactical victories to position himself in a far better strategic position.

One day you'll find yourself deep in enemy territory with overextended supply lines. Next thing you know, he's closing off those lines behind you...and now you're stuck with no supplies and no way home and we are having our way with your capital city while you're emotionally powerless to stop us.

Point?

You're playing with powers beyond your control and beyond what you are ever likely to understand. You need to check your ego at the door and just go with it. Stop trying to analyze it, stop trying to assume dominion over something that isn't yours.

You WILL end us pissing him off if you keep up this air of emotional superiority over him. Then, you'll be just another woman coming to DXP to bitch about scorp men.

And we will laugh and post snarky memes in your thread.

^^^^This. (If I had just read further I could have saved myself the frustration o trying to post sh*t on this site. WTF?)

Posted by Agentgem24
If you put eye drops in someone's food/drink, it acts like a laxative lol

Like I said. It's not something I'm aware of always, it's a subconscious thing. When I realize, I stop.

Like my cancer friend of 9 years said, "you don't do it on purpose. People just have to learn to say no to you or you will keep asking/trying to get your way. You don't realize it as soon"

I don't intentionally try to MANIPULATE. Do I want my way? Of course, but I don't want to call the shots all the time.

Last time we went out to eat he wasnt feeling the place I wanted and vise versa so we compromised on a middle choice. Last few movies we have watched had been his choice, so we are watching 2 of my choice sat.

He wasnt feeling sushi yesterday when I wanted it so instead he brought food from work (which was fine), and we may get sushi tonight. We were going to watch the game together but I'm letting him watch it with his friend (I'm not huge on sports) and then we will hang out after.

I think compromise is very important in a relationship.

I just want to know all the hype about scorps and manipulation, make it sound so evil. It just seems like so much work.

My Scorp is a rising Aquarius and has a Leo moon and saggaterius mercury.

He has mentioned that in the past the dumb bimbo like girls were super easy to control and that was what they wanted etc. many girls with avoidance personality disorders and they were interested when guys came off cool. He admitted that having a friend like that gave him the tools to control. But he wouldn't do it to me. Is it possible because he's so sweet on me he hasn't even attempted to show his true colors?

I just can't imagine ever going to so much work...

He says he will always be nice and respectful to me. Just not TOO nice because I will get bored with him. He will keep me on the edge of my seat.

You guys are something else! Lol.

It could also be some of his heritage, he can be traditional. Half Persian, half Italian. And catholic.

I'm all air, water, and earth in my chart. Nothing fire not even in the obscure houses. Yet a fire gets lit up under me if gender roles are ever used. I will not be the stay at home mom raising kids and cooking/cleaning constantly.

I like to be treated as an issue. "Strong for a girl" or "I cleaned a lot for a guy" are things that enrage me. Or saying its ok for men to sleep with more girls but not the other way around because they are men...ugh.

I've been very clear with him that I am not a submissive woman. I shall be treated equal. We are on the sand wave length for career. I'm attracted to power and proving my strength. Always trying to do more at gym than him lol.

I'm small but mighty. Getting pushed out of moving vehicles and shooting fully auto M4s will say I'm not the regular frillbot.

My Midheaven and Pluto are in Scorpio and Scorpio and in my IX house. Could this be why? Very drawn to proving strength and will lash out if I'm treated as weak or submissive

I lied, I have ONE fire sign. Saggaterius in my XI house lol

I'm talking about police training. It's just in the same category of saying that I'm big on strength and roles that are usually not seen as something a women can do. Occasionally, he will drop some lines around those categories and I call him out on it. I'm not sure why guys think that's ok. "Traditional" pfft.

And to answer your question we are the same age. I turned 24 in June and he will be 24 in November. We both have similar goals and accomplishments in life.

He's usually dated a for years older. I've typically dated my age to a few older (except once 2 years younger and once 20 years older...oops)

The majority of my friends are 30-50, both of us have good heads on our shoulders and are drawn to older/more mature people etc.

And yes air signs are weird. Espec rising Aquarius (Scorp understands because he is too)

But random and ADHD...I do confess. My apologies.

Forgot to add; we haven't been seeing each other long...close to 2 months. But we see each other 4-6x a week generally. It feels like it's been FOREVER in a good way. Things are moving pretty fast and he keeps dropping "kids" and "marriage" words at me and things waaaay in the future.

I don't want to think about kids for another 5-6 years at least but I do know I am considering it more as a future thing with this Scorp I have barely been seeing vs the Leo I was with for 4 years...I told him I would never want kids and marriage was a piece of paper and you didn't always need it. He was indifferent.

But things are changing/feeling different now. It's scary!!

We may be random but I swear there is a point! Even if I have to explain it -.-

Lol I meant I actually have done these things but fantasies may happen.

I thought Virgo and Scorpio were good together; why does she have those thought?

Same for me in mine! Lol.

Well I hope that's not the case but I am pretty guilty of that myself...I keep worrying if I really like him or will lose interest. I go back and forth and haven't made it Facebook official for that reason.

I came on strong with a Virgo, exclusive right away on my push. 2 months later I suddenly don't feel anything, get bored and break it off.

This has been the story of my life for the past 16 months. I'm very hot and cold. One day I could love you, the next indifference. Hard to say.

But I feel strong things with this Scorp so I hope that's not the case.

He says usually lately, his relationships have lasted about 3 months. My longest has been 2 and that's the only one that's been that long in 16 months.

I've been in love once, with 4 year Leo ex I broke up last march. I'll admit, there are still some feelings there,

This scorps longest was a year. He says he's never been in love before.

So far things are good but I'm also super wishy washy even though I think about him all the time, jump to conclusions and have a lot of jealousy in me for some reason, it's how I am. He's not a jealous person at all.

Pretty sure in the beginning of Leo and my relationship I threatened to break up with him monthly because I wasnt sure and needed reassurance or gave an ultimatum. I was also on crazy depo hormones and was 19 though.

But yeah...seems about right. He never wavered. Only once did I cause him to break down and we broke up for a week but got back together. It ended for good when he stopped trying and all the passion/love left. He didn't want to do anything or have sex etc and sex is a huge part of a relationship to me as well as passion and going out and doing things!

Sigh...maybe I'm just crazy 😕

Also, I think it took about a year, maybe 1.5 years for the freak outs and abandonment issues to stop and I became more secure.

I keep comparing every relationship I've had to that because that's all I know.

A 5 month Aries who was my first before that longterm Leo and then a year into Leo I found out Aries died but those are really my only experience.

Broke up with him march 2012. Since then my longest "relationships" were a 2 month Virgo that was 2 years younger and a close to 2 month Virgo that was 20 years older.

I completely felt cold for younger Virgo after the time passed but even still I have some feelings for older Virgo. I ended it because he wasnt able to give me the communication I needed though and also that's a freaking HUGE age gap despite us having so much in common/getting along/having the same friends.

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Posted by Agentgem24
He says he will always be nice and respectful to me. Just not TOO nice because I will get bored with him. He will keep me on the edge of my seat.

How long have you two been together? How old is he?

I ask because IME (some [younger]) Scorpio men tend to date in reverse. I've posted about it before and will try and find the exact entry, if you're interested..

I'm intersted.

Posted by MellyMel909


Be careful that you aren't allowing words and promises to propel you into a future you haven't yet earned and cannot yet actually see. That goes for BOTH of you - you and the Scorp.

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I read this as well and thought sounds like a line? *genuine perplexed expression*. Scorps don't typically promise you the world (action oriented vs making excessive noise), especially when nothing you have done warrants such action (the way you've describe yourself and your relationship.....) Please don't go into a tizzy about it though, I am writing this knowing very little about your Scorp and your actual relationship.

Posted by Agentgem24


It could also be some of his heritage, he can be traditional. Half Persian, half Italian. And catholic.

I'm all air, water, and earth in my chart. Nothing fire not even in the obscure houses. Yet a fire gets lit up under me if gender roles are ever used. I will not be the stay at home mom raising kids and cooking/cleaning constantly.

I like to be treated as an issue. "Strong for a girl" or "I cleaned a lot for a guy" are things that enrage me. Or saying its ok for men to sleep with more girls but not the other way around because they are men...ugh.

I've been very clear with him that I am not a submissive woman. I shall be treated equal. We are on the sand wave length for career. I'm attracted to power and proving my strength. Always trying to do more at gym than him lol.

I'm small but mighty. Getting pushed out of moving vehicles and shooting fully auto M4s will say I'm not the regular frillbot.

My Midheaven and Pluto are in Scorpio and Scorpio and in my IX house. Could this be why? Very drawn to proving strength and will lash out if I'm treated as weak or submissive

I'm just wondering, do you talk like this to/with your Scorp? ("I shall be treated equal!") or is this all just for our benefit (or yours)? Genuine question.

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Posted by Agentgem24
You guys are something else! Lol.

It could also be some of his heritage, he can be traditional. Half Persian, half Italian. And catholic.

I'm all air, water, and earth in my chart. Nothing fire not even in the obscure houses. Yet a fire gets lit up under me if gender roles are ever used. I will not be the stay at home mom raising kids and cooking/cleaning constantly.

I like to be treated as an issue. "Strong for a girl" or "I cleaned a lot for a guy" are things that enrage me. Or saying its ok for men to sleep with more girls but not the other way around because they are men...ugh.

I've been very clear with him that I am not a submissive woman. I shall be treated equal. We are on the sand wave length for career. I'm attracted to power and proving my strength. Always trying to do more at gym than him lol.

I'm small but mighty. Getting pushed out of moving vehicles and shooting fully auto M4s will say I'm not the regular frillbot.

My Midheaven and Pluto are in Scorpio and Scorpio and in my IX house. Could this be why? Very drawn to proving strength and will lash out if I'm treated as weak or submissive

Da fuq? Putain, c'est toute cette merde? Who said you had to clean? Who pushed you out of a moving vehicle? What does getting pushed out of a moving vehicle have to do with your relationship and the questions people are asking you about it?

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LOL! Okay, so it wasn't just me....

Posted by Neurotoxin
Why won't this just die?

I'm late to the party. I find this interesting.

Well of course I would say something about the whole equal thing if I feel a guy is talking down to me or thinking he is superior because he is a guy and girls are weak etc lol

Trolololo

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Posted by Agentgem24
You guys are something else! Lol.

It could also be some of his heritage, he can be traditional. Half Persian, half Italian. And catholic.

I'm all air, water, and earth in my chart. Nothing fire not even in the obscure houses. Yet a fire gets lit up under me if gender roles are ever used. I will not be the stay at home mom raising kids and cooking/cleaning constantly.

I like to be treated as an issue. "Strong for a girl" or "I cleaned a lot for a guy" are things that enrage me. Or saying its ok for men to sleep with more girls but not the other way around because they are men...ugh.

I've been very clear with him that I am not a submissive woman. I shall be treated equal. We are on the sand wave length for career. I'm attracted to power and proving my strength. Always trying to do more at gym than him lol.

I'm small but mighty. Getting pushed out of moving vehicles and shooting fully auto M4s will say I'm not the regular frillbot.

My Midheaven and Pluto are in Scorpio and Scorpio and in my IX house. Could this be why? Very drawn to proving strength and will lash out if I'm treated as weak or submissive

Da fuq? Putain, c'est toute cette merde? Who said you had to clean? Who pushed you out of a moving vehicle? What does getting pushed out of a moving vehicle have to do with your relationship and the questions people are asking you about it?

This is a coming thing for the SOs of Scorp men.

I know for a fact my wife has fantasized about shooting me with an automatic weapon and shoving me out of a moving vehicle.

TBH there are times I'VE fantasized about her shooting me with an automatic weapon and shoving me out of a moving vehicle.

Just to end the pain.

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woe is scorp

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Posted by Neurotoxin
Cancers and Gemini might have the greatest RAW manipulative powers of all the signs (one emotional, one intellectual)....but neither can hold a candle to a Scorpio.

Why?

Neither Cancers or Gems can control it. It's just part of their being. It's how they roll. And neither actually realizes how powerful a tool manipulation can be.

Now Scorps, we might not be as adept as Cancers and Gems, but we are no slouchs at BOTH types of manipulation. AND we can control it and adapt each to the situation at hand. That comes with the recognition of how powerful a weapon manipulation can be.

I think what I am trying to say is this...your placements make you a manipulative person. There's nothing wrong with that, per se. And I agree you probably don't realize you're doing it.

But your Scorp is likely far better. Just be AWARE of that and don't assume you can pull anything over on him.

I typically always know when someone is TRYING to manipulate me, I make a decision to go with it or stop it. I even sometimes say something to the person that is trying to do it. They are shocked that I called them on it. LOL

Scorp moon! FTW!

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^^ yup.

Recent update; tonight I got to see how deep and emotional he really was. He was fine then all of a sudden went into a emotional deep end. He had been drinking to so that may have helped to but he wasnt taking me seriously when I was explaining my emotions and literally on the verge of tears and he had become cold and aloof.

Luckily, this only took 20 min to snap out of and I had him admitting a lot to me, crying some, and snuggling up to me. Followed by awesome make up sex and then more snuggling. I'm glad we got things sorted out. These mood swings of his were almost too much for me to bear; I was tempted I break up with him because I was scared. But I'm so glad I stuck it out and talked to him. It didn't take long

erg...hope this posts, so i'll try again:

Lol I think that only vaguely looks like me.

Well we both were out drinking last night. I didn't have much but I don't think before I speak at times....there was a guy I had told him about before who was a complete ass hole and he just so happened to be at the sushi place. Things were going fine until I accidently somehow (I'm really honest) let slip we had a fling earlier this year and after that he became a jerk and I hadn't seen him since yet we still talk harmlessly on occasion (I never had feelings for him at all) it was a friend I knew for 3 years I was at a difficult place at my life, and then he became a jerk. Scorp didn't like how he took advantage of me and also I saw jealousy even though he claimed before "it was a waste of time".

Well he said he had to make a few phone calls and he got caught up in that and was gone like an hour. He came back in pretty drunk acting strange and aloof and giggly and I asked him why he was being such a douche.

He was talking nonsense. Apparently 2 years ago some girl he broke up with was bitter and said he would never have a relationship past 3 months, fall in love, and there would be a 6 week curse. He said he laughed at her but the past 7 relationships had ended under 3 months. I'm like dafuq?

I explained to him it wasnt her that did it. Curses aren't real and I told him after the first few relationships he needed something to believe in on why he was failing. It's been the same for me for past 16 months, even less than 3 months. No curse, it's called being 24 and not exactly knowing what you really want in life and things failing for a reason that it wasnt meant to be. Shit happens.

By him holding onto this concept I told him, he is setting himself up for failure. He is projecting this negative energy that if he hasn't already found a reason why to end it he projects his feelings and pushes the girl away which in turn becomes a self fufilling prophecy. I told him not to dare back peddle on me.

He realized I was right. I asked him if he wanted to end it with me in in a week (6 week point) or 3 months and I told him then don't...I'm not going anywhere so long as you don't push me away. He wanted to know how far I could see this going and I said awhile and he said the same thing. He wanted to know why I liked him and why I was with him...I felt 15 but I humored myself

We all get insecure, my mouth and the drinking helped this one but I feel it was important this happened because we covere

I apologize for the novella.

And did it cut off or did you get the whole novel? It's showing cut off midpoint on my end

Why be an ass neuro? I don't think so...

I'm also not very fond of blondes. She looks similar to me but I mostly get Amy Lee, Ashley Greene, Avril lavigne and young Elizabeth Taylor as look alikes.

Not sure why I get told I look so familiar by random people.

Yeah I do see similar facial structure and eyes, I just wouldn't go as far as twins. If she was my twin, I could at least borrow her top lol.

Well I can def see the Amy lee and young Elizabeth Taylor comparison but I can only vaguely see Avril and Ashley. I never would have thought of Ashley if someone hadnt said it, a few people. I'm pretty sure she has brown eyes too. I also got Catherine zeta jones a few times and I also don't see it. Twice I got Sarah Silverman and I wanted to punch someone...we have no similar features.

Nothing wrong with Seth rogan, he's hilarious. But if you think you look nothing like him I trust you lol.

And yes I'm hyper sensitive. I'm working on that. My Pisces female friend is helping me develop thicker skin.

So it does show cut off on your end?

Well here is the last bit then:

I felt that the talk helped us a lot and got his closer together, it was needed and I told him about my issues too. He said he would kill me if I broke up with him (laughs nervously) so hopefully that's just a sign he really likes me.

I told him I'm jealous of his female platonic friend but they are just friends, never been romantic and she's too messed to for him to ever look at her more than a sister and he's helping her bf win her over. It's just weird to me they talk ALL the time and daily. Apparently she really wants to meet me too. But I suppose I don't have the right to be jealous considering I have a guy room mate lol. Scorp thinks he's great and isn't jealous at all.

Crying some and having that talk after helped me release emotions. The 4x we had sex after may have helped to 😉

Lol melly, I'm usually very good in social situations but I swear sometimes I feel awkward for myself being so awkward! I get embarrassed for myself and I'm just like "what are you doing...stop...stahp" but I keep talking lol.

I luckily get my singing voice compared to amy lee (as well as looks) with some songs and heart with others which are massive compliments. Talking voice Kate Walsh in that Cadillac commercial, it a little.

But my dancing and rhythem lol. I've been compared to Elaine in Seinfeld with her little kicks and a cockroach that has been sprayed and is still wiggling around as it dies...(step dad said that) ~.< lol

I think Tina fey is pretty though

I'm hypocritical neuro. I have the same amount of close male friends as Scorp but I still get jealous. One is like my brother and life coach and I live with him.

The other is my best friend a fellow Gemini (are charts are scary similar) he's getting married to my good Pisces friend this year.

Aw neuro:/

I'm sure your wife is hot though lol

Are you being sarcastic? Hard to tell with you.

Noo irresistible Scorp, I didn't say that TO him. I was speaking out loud.

I told him I liked not just his looks but his personality too. I liked that he had ambition and goals very similar to mine and a good head on his shoulders. I liked that he is sweet and romantic and loyal to me. I also said although he has quirks and things he does that highly annoy me I tolerate them because I want him in my life and it's what makes up who he is. I know I have quirks etc he didn't like. I said there were certain things I didn't like in guys I dated and the 2nd it surfaced I ran away because it was too much drama to deal with. I said if he does something that bothers me I will tell him and an genuinely interested in making us work. Some of the quirks annoy me yet I smile at them deep down oddly enough.

I told him in the short time we have been together I have seen more in the future and had thoughts I never had before than when with an ex of 4 years. I told him I am not going anywhere and want to be with him...just not to be cold with me or push me away because then there will be nothing I can do but I want to do everything in my power to be with him and make him happy.


And if you think I talk a lot, you should meet him. He talks just as much, if not more. He's more of a phone person than me and will talk to multiple friends on the phone for hours etc.

I was emotionally frustrated when he went off for an hour to make his calls and came back acting completely different and cold and aloof. I broke down in tears because I didn't know how to handle it and was trying to get him to a knowledge my feelings. I left to take a hot shower and then I came back and took the head phones out of his ears/put his phone up, and forced him to talk to me. That was when his feelings came out and he opened up to me. He says he was terrified of him leaving him and the last 7x he has tried for a relationship it ended and didn't want me to leave him and break his heart. I said it was because he was making it a self fufilling prophecy but the point is I really cared for him and I really wanted to be with him. I said as long as he doesn't push me away, I am his 100% . Then everything was fine, even more than fine. I felt like we had a break through and as became even closer.

Yeah I really want to work towards my insecurities. That is the best feeling to have. Knowing security and they love you even if they are with a female friend, are acting distant, or that they will come back after a fight,

If just takes time to build up to it. It's not out of love people get possessive and insecure, it's fear.

Also, fuck I phone for having the worst auto corrects and typos.

We have a lot of very positives in our charts. Way more positive than negative. But it only takes one really bad one to screw it up so we have to work together and balance it,

My moon is square/opposite his Pluto. I also have the same thing with myself personally in my chart. It's going to take work and be an ongoing process

Neuro, I can think of a few people actually lol

Yes, sadly it would drive me crazy if roles were reversed too.

My Leo ex put up with it until I broke up with him. It was much more present in the first year but after that it pretty much chilled out and was only occasional irrational here and there. We were also 6 hours distant during the school year and I saw him one weekend a month.

Im really working on it, I do know it's a horrible flaw and it is my biggest flaw. I have so much good and light to bring to a relationship but it won't do any good if its shadowed by the insecurity.

It's abandonment issues and needing to be reassured. It's an inner demon I have just like Scorp has inner demon he needs to work on as to opening up more and showing more affection.

Perhaps he can help make me more of a confident and secure person and I can help him express my emotions.

I was very confident in myself after my 2nd year with my ex. But one of the reasons why I broke it off was because being with him was the ONLY reason why. I identified with "us" As a couple, not as an individual. I needed to break away to have my own identity.

I ask for reassurance to my friends and come to them for all my issues too...God bless them. My Pisces friend has been giving me tough love, it helps

I counted 7 negatives and 18 positives in our chart

Explain the reasoning behind your "LOL" neuro.

And yes Jenn it does. That's why I left my ex SO I could work on myself. It will take awhile but I am getting better. I was raised very co dependently with my mom; I moved out in Feb and while I am mature for my age and most of my friends are in their early 30s-late 40s, I am pretty naive. There are many life skills I simply was never taught. I can offer a lot of insight and older people (hence my friends) are generally impressed by my intelligence and insight but they can tell I'm naive and mentor me too. Like my room mate. I need to learn to do things on myself vs rely on others, all my life if I just acted helpless people would just fix it for me. I don't want to be like that anymore.