
Can you not just be yourself and "make" the right man want you? You can only keep up pretences for so long...


Posted by jeanePosted by InquisitivemindIf you have their heart they are not hot and cold. They are consistent. It is hot hot hot all the way.Posted by jeanePosted by InquisitivemindI think I missed that. Are you in a relationship?
Thank you!!!! I agree they are very difficult. The only real problem between us is what you said when hes mad you two give each other space. I'm more of a lets communicate like mature adults & fix it type of lover.
Tell me how you feel, cry if you have to etc... & i hate being ignored. I feel if you're in a relationship you should want to be around each other everyday even if you're mad. I react to being ignored but I'm learning to just give him space & not overthink.
It's complicated. Lol. I'm confused. I bet if we were compatible sun signs I would understand. We treat each other like we're in a relationship, we break up then make up... I go to families house every holiday. His mom calls me everyday.
Long story short I know I have this mans heart its just the hot/cold nature that throws me off. I was moreso needing a opinion from other tauruses to figure out how I could make him be hot over me all the time? Or is this just a personality trait I have to deal with?
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Posted by TaurusBull1977Hence, friendzoned.
@InquisitiveMind,
The hot and cold behavior only happens when there is uncertainty.
A careful character assessment was considered, and there were traits about you that he didn't care for.
Contrary to what you hear about the slow moving Bull and the materialistic stigma that is usually associated with this sign, the Taurus is actually a highly moral sign, rooted in humility, need for peace, and moves on pure practicality despite the Venus influence.
The assessment period is the time of observation. Your moral character credibility comes into play. Your interaction with others, how you treat people, are you humble?, Do you have a good value system? a good work ethic? Are you compassionate? Do you have integrity? Class?
I may have feelings for you.
I just may not care to invest in a future with you.
I simply wasn't impressed with what I witnessed.
One has nothing to do with the other.
This is something you will never understand as a fire sign.
Nine years is a long time.
It will never happen.
Bulls are fixed signs.
We know our minds.


Posted by TaurusBull1977I've known him for 9 years, we haven't dated for 9 years. I've even watched him be in relationships with others before. It never last long... maybe 4 months. I never saw him go crazy over anyone. He's so quick to just cut people out his life like they dont matter. I don't think he could go crazy over anyone. He's so nonchalant.
@InquisitiveMind,
The hot and cold behavior only happens when there is uncertainty.
A careful character assessment was considered, and there were traits about you that he didn't care for.
Contrary to what you hear about the slow moving Bull and the materialistic stigma that is usually associated with this sign, the Taurus is actually a highly moral sign, rooted in humility, need for peace, and moves on pure practicality despite the Venus influence.
The assessment period is the time of observation. Your moral character credibility comes into play. Your interaction with others, how you treat people, are you humble?, Do you have a good value system? a good work ethic? Are you compassionate? Do you have integrity? Class?
I may have feelings for you.
I just may not care to invest in a future with you.
I simply wasn't impressed with what I witnessed.
One has nothing to do with the other.
This is something you will never understand as a fire sign.
Nine years is a long time.
It will never happen.
Bulls are fixed signs.
We know our minds.

Posted by earlorg16I agree that his hot and cold nature is steming from where he is in his life. & even though I try to make him comfortable with knowing I'm still gone be here & have his back he will still be distant. But when he's back happy & financially secure he will be back hot. He takes his problems off on everyone & neglects everyone. Technically we've been serious around 4 or 5 years off & on. But I do take into consideration that he is a 25 year old man. & men do not know what they want at the years we've been off and on. IMO I feel men take longer to mature than women. (Not always) Women know what they want & men have to go through some things to realize who had their back. People have to find themselves & learn from experience before building with a SO.
I don't know, I think I can get hot and cold with a person that I've been seeing from time to time too. Emotions are very unpredictable things. They're like waves, they come and go sometimes, some heavier than others, some calmer, currents that can be affected by a multitude of things and factors that are simply out of our control. Taurus is a very devoted sign, as is Leo.
To answer your initial question, you can't force love or attraction. It just... happens. It's completely by chance and timing is everything.
My question for you OP is has he been hot and cold with you the entire time you've been with him? How long has it been for you two technically? I've gone through phases myself where I've been hot and cold with someone, and honestly, some of those times it has nothing to do with my SO and everything else to do with where I'm at in my life.

Posted by leowww
This sounds like vodoo talk....
Just be you? ๐

Posted by InquisitivemindYep, sounds like me. I was going through a quarter life crisis at 25, and in some ways, still kinda going through one now. It really comes down to, and I think this applies to all people really, emotional stability (if you're content with being single or with a lover), financial stability (are you content with your career choice? are you personal finances ok?), and social stability (are your relationships with others such as family and friends fine?). Obviously when all 3 of those factors are working out, or the majority of them are, people tend to be in good spirits. It can sometimes be less about a person and more about where they stand within the context of our world. Like my ex at the time, there was nothing wrong with her at all at that time, she was wonderful really, but I couldn't be the best boyfriend that I could be at that time because I was seriously worried about my job situation along with family issues at that time. She understood it, but I could tell it affected her and she thought it dealt with her when in reality, it was quite the opposite.
I agree that his hot and cold nature is steming from where he is in his life. & even though I try to make him comfortable with knowing I'm still gone be here & have his back he will still be distant. But when he's back happy & financially secure he will be back hot. He takes his problems off on everyone & neglects everyone. Technically we've been serious around 4 or 5 years off & on. But I do take into consideration that he is a 25 year old man. & men do not know what they want at the years we've been off and on. IMO I feel men take longer to mature than women. (Not always) Women know what they want & men have to go through some things to realize who had their back. People have to find themselves & learn from experience before building with a SO.

Posted by earlorg16a little different though because these guys aren't in a relationship.Posted by InquisitivemindYep, sounds like me. I was going through a quarter life crisis at 25, and in some ways, still kinda going through one now. It really comes down to, and I think this applies to all people really, emotional stability (if you're content with being single or with a lover), financial stability (are you content with your career choice? are you personal finances ok?), and social stability (are your relationships with others such as family and friends fine?). Obviously when all 3 of those factors are working out, or the majority of them are, people tend to be in good spirits. It can sometimes be less about a person and more about where they stand within the context of our world. Like my ex at the time, there was nothing wrong with her at all at that time, she was wonderful really, but I couldn't be the best boyfriend that I could be at that time because I was seriously worried about my job situation along with family issues at that time. She understood it, but I could tell it affected her and she thought it dealt with her when in reality, it was quite the opposite.
I agree that his hot and cold nature is steming from where he is in his life. & even though I try to make him comfortable with knowing I'm still gone be here & have his back he will still be distant. But when he's back happy & financially secure he will be back hot. He takes his problems off on everyone & neglects everyone. Technically we've been serious around 4 or 5 years off & on. But I do take into consideration that he is a 25 year old man. & men do not know what they want at the years we've been off and on. IMO I feel men take longer to mature than women. (Not always) Women know what they want & men have to go through some things to realize who had their back. People have to find themselves & learn from experience before building with a SO.
When something is unstable, it can show on our faces and spread into other facets of our lives without us even realizing it. Such as who we are with. I came off as cold to my SO at that time when I didn't mean to. It was challenging NOT to because I simply wasn't happy with where I was at. She was my rock at the time, and honestly, without her, I don't know how I would've dealt with it. Though I did need my own personal space because I was vulnerable and needed to sort my life out. I'd say, don't take offense to what's happening and give him some space and time. Don't fault yourself or make this about you, because it's probably got nothing to do with you. That's just only going to push him even further from you.click to expand

Posted by Redoctober2000I just think if he hasn't made a move after 9 years then it is unlikely to happen. given he has been in relationships in the meantime and has made no move to be in a relationship with the op then her chances of changing his mind about her place in his life is remote.
Shit! For sure!! I'm just astounded that people hang on for that amount of time without even seeing the bigger pictureโ? Is it that hard to read when someone, generally, (not just sun sign) is not into them?! It's just crazy!?!
All that time ebbing away for nothing than to walk away empty handed!!!

Posted by jeaneFrom what she said, they were on and off for 4-5 years. Around that time, I was on and off with my SO for a a year or two, but dated exclusively for 4 years prior. Besides, I don't think exclusivity of relationships are really a do all tell all of how a person feels towards another. I genuinely loved my SO at that time, even though we were on and off and I wasn't dating anyone else or interested in others.Posted by earlorg16a little different though because these guys aren't in a relationship.Posted by InquisitivemindYep, sounds like me. I was going through a quarter life crisis at 25, and in some ways, still kinda going through one now. It really comes down to, and I think this applies to all people really, emotional stability (if you're content with being single or with a lover), financial stability (are you content with your career choice? are you personal finances ok?), and social stability (are your relationships with others such as family and friends fine?). Obviously when all 3 of those factors are working out, or the majority of them are, people tend to be in good spirits. It can sometimes be less about a person and more about where they stand within the context of our world. Like my ex at the time, there was nothing wrong with her at all at that time, she was wonderful really, but I couldn't be the best boyfriend that I could be at that time because I was seriously worried about my job situation along with family issues at that time. She understood it, but I could tell it affected her and she thought it dealt with her when in reality, it was quite the opposite.
I agree that his hot and cold nature is steming from where he is in his life. & even though I try to make him comfortable with knowing I'm still gone be here & have his back he will still be distant. But when he's back happy & financially secure he will be back hot. He takes his problems off on everyone & neglects everyone. Technically we've been serious around 4 or 5 years off & on. But I do take into consideration that he is a 25 year old man. & men do not know what they want at the years we've been off and on. IMO I feel men take longer to mature than women. (Not always) Women know what they want & men have to go through some things to realize who had their back. People have to find themselves & learn from experience before building with a SO.
When something is unstable, it can show on our faces and spread into other facets of our lives without us even realizing it. Such as who we are with. I came off as cold to my SO at that time when I didn't mean to. It was challenging NOT to because I simply wasn't happy with where I was at. She was my rock at the time, and honestly, without her, I don't know how I would've dealt with it. Though I did need my own personal space because I was vulnerable and needed to sort my life out. I'd say, don't take offense to what's happening and give him some space and time. Don't fault yourself or make this about you, because it's probably got nothing to do with you. That's just only going to push him even further from you.
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Posted by earlorg16I think the operative word in that 4-5 years is "technically". Would he say the same? I'm not so sure. She says they "behave" like they are in a relationship.
From what she said, they were on and off for 4-5 years. Around that time, I was on and off with my SO for a a year or two, but dated exclusively for 4 years prior. Besides, I don't think exclusivity of relationships are really a do all tell all of how a person feels towards another. I genuinely loved my SO at that time, even though we were on and off and I wasn't dating anyone else or interested in others.

Posted by jeaneTrue, though at this point, we can only speculate.Posted by earlorg16I think the operative word in that 4-5 years is "technically". Would he say the same? I'm not so sure.
From what she said, they were on and off for 4-5 years. Around that time, I was on and off with my SO for a a year or two, but dated exclusively for 4 years prior. Besides, I don't think exclusivity of relationships are really a do all tell all of how a person feels towards another. I genuinely loved my SO at that time, even though we were on and off and I wasn't dating anyone else or interested in others.
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Posted by jeaneTrue, though at this point, we can only speculate.Posted by earlorg16I think the operative word in that 4-5 years is "technically". Would he say the same? I'm not so sure.
From what she said, they were on and off for 4-5 years. Around that time, I was on and off with my SO for a a year or two, but dated exclusively for 4 years prior. Besides, I don't think exclusivity of relationships are really a do all tell all of how a person feels towards another. I genuinely loved my SO at that time, even though we were on and off and I wasn't dating anyone else or interested in others.
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Posted by EnochtheWiseAGREED!
Just hang around him forever. He'll just get used to you, be too lazy to look elsewhere, and settle on you eventually.

Posted by TaurusBull1977I didn't read through the whole thread, but I'm seeing that she's known this dude for 9 years now? I don't know, I think it's silly to look at all Taurus's or any sign for that matter as all being the same. We're all different, sure we all have similar traits, but not all of us react to situations the same way. That's all I'm saying. I've been around people who have dated for longer than 4-5 years with no exclusivity and there's a lot of love there. Some people just don't like being held down like that or having labels on their relationships with others.
@Earlog,
I agree with Jeane.
Sure, Bulls are hot and cold depending on where they are in life (financial problems, family-related problems) but this is usually during the early stages of a relationship, where the establishment of trust, and the day-to-day familiarity has not been set in motion.
The OP has been around for 4-5 years, with no exclusivity.
It's still a long time.
Especially if she 'alleges' that she has a good relationship with his family.
There still shouldn't be an issue.
I think it's 'her.'

Posted by stopbeingdelusionalPosted by EnochtheWiseI think Tuarus men, at least the ones I know, are all husband material.Posted by TaurusBull1977Oddly enough, though I have absolutely no understanding of why this is other than some sort of Venusian magic, many beautiful high quality women will line up to be strung along and eventually settled for by a Taurus man. That perception of stability is so powerful....Posted by EnochtheWiseAGREED!
Just hang around him forever. He'll just get used to you, be too lazy to look elsewhere, and settle on you eventually.
He will eventually settle for her.
This is clearly what the OP wants.
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Posted by Redoctober2000All true busy! I thought men like him just didn't exist. He got me right in the feels. It's the combination of strength and gentleness that Taurus seem to have in spades.Posted by jeaneAwwww! How sweet!! ?Posted by stopbeingdelusionalPosted by EnochtheWiseI think Tuarus men, at least the ones I know, are all husband material.Posted by TaurusBull1977Oddly enough, though I have absolutely no understanding of why this is other than some sort of Venusian magic, many beautiful high quality women will line up to be strung along and eventually settled for by a Taurus man. That perception of stability is so powerful....Posted by EnochtheWiseAGREED!
Just hang around him forever. He'll just get used to you, be too lazy to look elsewhere, and settle on you eventually.
He will eventually settle for her.
This is clearly what the OP wants.
They have the emotional maturity and a calming effect on people :p
speaking from personal experience, taurus men are lovely. mine nearly had me in tears last night with all his loveliness.
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Posted by InquisitivemindHe's 25. How old are you?
This article is very interesting.
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/sex-love/a39736/things-only-taurus-people-understand/






Posted by TaurusBull1977
He's looking for those core traits in a woman.![]()
They're not looking for rich women. We're Venusian species with a great deal of morals. Not opportunistic robots.
as for the Mars and Venus....
You will need to keep communication lines open, and be spontaneous, just make sure this is in moderation. A little too much spontaneity will leave him feeling insecure.
Good Luck!

Posted by InquisitivemindYou have been given good advice on this post. I have dated a few Bulls in my life, and I currently date one now (4/29). We have been companions for over 3 years. Bulls are not for the needy, clingy types (not saying you are) however, in your responses I hear a lot of overthinking, and frankly, you are too focused on the "how too's" Bulls do not take well to unstable emotions.
how do I make a taurus man want/miss me more? Distance?

Posted by lilbitI LOVE this!Posted by InquisitivemindYou have been given good advice on this post. I have dated a few Bulls in my life, and I currently date one now (4/29). We have been companions for over 3 years. Bulls are not for the needy, clingy types (not saying you are) however, in your responses I hear a lot of overthinking, and frankly, you are too focused on the "how too's" Bulls do not take well to unstable emotions.
how do I make a taurus man want/miss me more? Distance?
As many have said, you must let me stress MUST have your own life! My bull is an intricate part of my life, but not my whole life...is how I like to put it. With my bull absence makes the heart grow fonder (along with other parts lol), as my bull said when I jokingly said that to him. See, the bull will not be RUSHED, especially depending on what stage he is in his life.
When we first started dating, every time we spent time together he would hibernate for a few days. At first, I would consider it ghosting me, but then he started to come around more and more (hence I didn't overreact). And three years later our relationship has grown through communication, laughs, good times and his consistent actions with me. If you bull is truly into you, he generally call at the same time of day, give you wake up calls, keep you informed on what is going on with him, buy you gifts, dinner's, vacation's and make sure your basic needs are taken care of. If your bull notices you living your own life and handling your own finances, it makes him want to spoil you! Now, the bull loves gifts as well, especially thoughtful & tangible gifts! Ex: my bull took his son to Florida for a mini vacation, while there he sent a photo of him and his son having a great time...well once my bull came back (anytime he travels, when he leaves or returns I am one of his first visits and/or call) I had got the photo enlarged & framed (I also brought him a new leather travel pouch) he liked the travel pouch, but he adored the photo & frame more (I could tell by his reaction). So, I guess my point is, you just have to get to know him and be YOURSELF, not the fantasy you have come up with! Bulls can smell needy and BS miles away.
Your concern of him wanting you more, will only push him away! I am an Aries (3/27) btw...so trust me I know all too well about emotions lol. Self-love, independence, ambition and yes having a good paying job does help! Bulls love to show off in their own down to earth way! They will want a lady that can respect him but maintain her independence and speak her mind in a clear coherent manner, without being disrespectful. Sex is a pre-exquisite to all of this, bulls are highly sensual & a freaky nature you never see coming (at least with my bull) especially in the bedroom, that's when my bull sings the most! Oh, and a lot of bulls love music, that is one of my bull love languages, through music.
As you spend time with him, there will be certain things or memories that he will think of only you, when it comes up...for example my bull & I have a favorite album that we listened to when we started dating, my bull also has a cute name for me, and I have the same for him...I'm not talking about the generic "baby" bae" and all that...I'm speaking of something that describes your connection, something more personal and individual.
Just be YOU and don't worry too much. Bulls will surprise you when you least expect it! I hope everything works out for you & your bull!
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