Confused By Virgo Guy (Continued) ... (Page 2)

Doesn't matter what he wants if you're being needlessly hurt in the process.


If you walk away now and focus on living your life like it's 1999, months/years from now you'll be SO glad you did. Trust me (even though you have no reason to). Many of us have been in your shoes. It's easier said than done, but better to do it now before you look up and realize you've spent years in a quagmire of foolishness.

Posted by lnana04
Girly, you of all people should know about bottom lines. Im reading your posts and dont see one in sight.

CapricornGirl24, go knock on this dudes door and pour out your heart to him. Tell him you want to be with him, and have no fear in showing this side of yourself. You said its what you want. 80% of Cap females dont get this far in knowing lol, so go for him, im serious. Thanks to LIB you now see your faults. Go and take the initiative, and start new leaving the entire past behind. Everything.

I see where this thread is going, which is in a big gigantic circle, and im curious but my patience is running thin for this continuance of this side of the story. Change of direction. Put yourself out there, in a way thats comfortable to you girly.. You never know what you may get, and you might break a record in being the first Cappie to do it.

You want answers, but you may have them all. Would doing this be terrifying to you?

That's exactly what I want to do; pour my heart out. But yes, I'm terrified at the thought of actually doing so. I'm shy & reserved, naturally. It's just how I am, I have no control over it. Plus I don't want to scare him away & he won't talk to me, so now what ? I don't wanna smother him or come off as "needy". If he needs time to sort things out, that's not a problem. My anxiety is ridiculous, though. He upsets me but I still feel there's something very unique about him & he definitely has a good heart. It shows when he's not being a jerk. So, my thing is, Idk whether to continue to try & look beyond his flaws b/c I know underneath it is a beautiful person or just let it go b/c his behavior hurts me when he goes from hot to cold? I don't wanna get caught up in illusions that I'm creating in my mind & isn't a reality. And I myself, can be hot & cold too. But I only turn cold when I feel disrespected, taken for granted & under the impression that he's just gonna leave me anyway like everyone else. Which is when I disappear & keep my distance. I try hard not to compare his actions to the actions of those before him, but when I see similarities I panic.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
I kind of agree, capricorns are very scared to.give their hearts away to someone because it makes us vulnerable and we do blame others alot to protect and defend ourselves. I think we're afraid to take risks and we're afraid to put ourselves out there. We do push people away because we're afraid, but we don't intentionally do so. I think you should just go for it and maybe tell him how you feel and tell him that you know the part you played and see where it goes. Apologize for leaving him

All of you describe me so perfectly! LOl but if he won't talk to me, how can I get him to? I'm very afraid of vulnerability, it makes me feel weak. And giving my heart away completely is a scary thought & a huge gamble. I'm afraid the other person won't take care of it & leave me shattere and broken. Emotionally messing me up. I always think what if I'm wrong about him? And I wanna take the risk to find out, I'm just scared. I need to know he'll actually take care of my heart and not abuse it.

Well there you go. Let time do its thing. You have to work on not letting your past control your future, BUT you are picking up that he'll do the same things for a reason, which is mostly likely because he will. Its up to you to take that risk. Being a beautiful person doesnt mean he has to be that with you.

Sit back and work on you and maybe the two of you will meet again.

Posted by ScorpSuperior
Doesn't matter what he wants if you're being needlessly hurt in the process.


If you walk away now and focus on living your life like it's 1999, months/years from now you'll be SO glad you did. Trust me (even though you have no reason to). Many of us have been in your shoes. It's easier said than done, but better to do it now before you look up and realize you've spent years in a quagmire of foolishness.

I've been in this same state of mind with other guys & left with no problem. But this guy, I always seem to wanna go back & try again. Walking away was easy with everyone else after a while. But I can never stay away from this one & not miss him at some point. I feel comfortable with him. He makes me sick sometimes, though. Not that I expect him to be perfect; Nobody is. Even me.

Posted by lnana04
Well there you go. Let time do its thing. You have to work on not letting your past control your future, BUT you are picking up that he'll do the same things for a reason, which is mostly likely because he will. Its up to you to take that risk. Being a beautiful person doesnt mean he has to be that with you.

Sit back and work on you and maybe the two of you will meet again.

Yeah, I notice similarities & panic at the thought of him doing what all the others did. I'm pretty sure he does the sae to me, too. Except he never talks about his past relationships with me (I don't mind b/c I wasn't there so I feel it's none of my business), but I've told him a little bit about mine; didn't give every little detail though. I feel like me telling him gave him a better understanding of why I act the way I do & I don't feel like he judges me for it. He gives off a vibe sometimes that feels like unconditional love. Like, no matter how much I run or how afraid I get, he'll always know the reason id mostly b/c of my past & hold a special place in his heart for me b/c he knows it's not intentional. But I'll definitely use this time apart to work on myself. I'm holding on to pain too that I thought was gone.

Aww, Capricorngirl, I like your honesty. The vulnerable side of a Cappie is adorable to me *hugs*

A Virgo wouldnt know what to do with that. *rolls eyes*

Anyway, I wish you luck in this situation, I really do. If you decide to take the risk keep us updated.

To me, being vulnerable does make us feel weak as capricorns. We need to KNOW that the other person is going to fully take our hearts Nd store them in a beautiful place. We need security, attention, and love, even compliments help us to grow and steer away from being afraid. Like a kid on the first day of kindergarten, afraid and doesn't know what's going to comw

come next....we're just afraid and we need comforting at times. People always want to.run away from us but we mean good! We're really sweet, and caring, and great friends. I just wish people would understand that. We just take friendship and relationships very seriously because they mean everything to us. We would never want to hurt anyone, it's the last thing on our list.

Girl, do what you believe is best from all the responses on here and from what you truly believe. But I honestly believe that if you apologize to him and maybe tell him how you feel, he may give you some clarity. I'm not saying rush to him with open arms because he still hurt you in the process, and never asked you how you felt or why you did the thongs you did. But just talk....that's all I can recommend, but don't beg him🙂

Posted by lnana04
Aww, Capricorngirl, I like your honesty. The vulnerable side of a Cappie is adorable to me *hugs*

A Virgo wouldnt know what to do with that. *rolls eyes*

Anyway, I wish you luck in this situation, I really do. If you decide to take the risk keep us updated.

Thanks & I'll definitely keep all of you updated. I appreciate the feedback & advice more than any of you could IMAGINE. I even learned more about myself 🙂

Inana04 obviously he didn' know what to do! Lol she was just being herself the whole time and was doing what was natural for her, what she knew how to do. She cares about him alot, that's why she gave him space, but he took it a whole different way. She didn't want to smother him and be all in his face, like most girls would do. If he needed something from her he should've just said something instead of letting some random girl come in and make he feel like she gave a damn. Virgos are wonderful, but I sometimes think they expect too much and they want people to be perfect, but forget we're all human.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
come next....we're just afraid and we need comforting at times. People always want to.run away from us but we mean good! We're really sweet, and caring, and great friends. I just wish people would understand that. We just take friendship and relationships very seriously because they mean everything to us. We would never want to hurt anyone, it's the last thing on our list.

Girl, do what you believe is best from all the responses on here and from what you truly believe. But I honestly believe that if you apologize to him and maybe tell him how you feel, he may give you some clarity. I'm not saying rush to him with open arms because he still hurt you in the process, and never asked you how you felt or why you did the thongs you did. But just talk....that's all I can recommend, but don't beg him🙂

Begging is NEVER goin to happen, Lol. And yes, we are GREAT people; just misunderstood :p. My insecurities always make me feel the need to "check" every now & then just to make sure we're still on the same page. He probably gets annoyed by it, but I can't help it. I always feel the need to know what's coming next. I'll apologize at some point, now that I see where I'm wrong. But it def won't take away the fact that I was hurt too. Talking is all I want from him right now just for clarity. But he won't speak to me. so I guess I'll just have to sit back & hope he'll reach out to me soon.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
Inana04 obviously he didn' know what to do! Lol she was just being herself the whole time and was doing what was natural for her, what she knew how to do. She cares about him alot, that's why she gave him space, but he took it a whole different way. She didn't want to smother him and be all in his face, like most girls would do. If he needed something from her he should've just said something instead of letting some random girl come in and make he feel like she gave a damn. Virgos are wonderful, but I sometimes think they expect too much and they want people to be perfect, but forget we're all human.

Omg!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS !!!! LOl I ask him "what do you want?","do you you need space?","what's the matter?", "do you wanna talk about it?". I didn't ask ALL the time, only when he made it obv something was wrong. I ried not to b/c I dodn't want to smother him. I care for him more than he knows. I want him to have the freedom to enjoy life, but still have respect for me & not just up and leave me stranded. I feel he thinks we should be together ALL the time. But I don't want him to be so wrapped up in me that he loses himself & I become his identity. I don't want him to feel trapped. I'm young & there's thing in life I wanna do. I've set goals that I personally intend to achieve. I feel he should do the same. To devote EVERY second of our time to eachother would be unrealistic right now. But when we have time for eachother,we should do all we can to take FULL advantage of it. As long as he doesn't abandon me while he's achieveing his goals & enjoying life, I'd never quit on him. I don't he gets that though.

I mean, yeah I disappeared & kept my distance but I had legit reasons to do so.

By the way, Idk if any of you seen this, but it's the first part of my thread & explains how we met:

Me & Virgo guy met in high school during our senior year. I had seen him around school before then, but never really spoke to him until our last year. When we did come in contact he'd pick at me, not in a mean way. More like in a fun way. But I didn't say much back. I'm naturally reserved & well known as "the quiet" girl to most that know me but I'm not really close to. During senior year, we had a class together & I noticed he'd stare at me a lot from across the room. As time went by, he'd move closer to where I was sitting in class & then pick at me like he had done before. There were even times when he'd catch me in the hallway on my way to class & say something to slow me down so he could walk beside me. Not too long after, it was a rumor going around the school that he liked me. Mostly coming from guys he hung out with on a daily basis. His friends would blurt it out right in front of him, but he didn't say anything so I didn't either. I just brushed it off. I thought he was cute, but I didn't know him well enough to say I actually "liked" him. Plus he allowed other females in his face too much & it was kind of a turn off for me. So I didn't pay any mind to whether or not he liked me. After graduating, we lost touch for almost a year until I came across his number & texted him just to see if he still had the same number (I was in the middle of deleting numbers). He texted back, and we talked for hours. He asked me questions about what I'd been up to, If I had a boyfriend , why I didn't have a boyfriend, where I see myself in the next 5 years & tons of other questions. It through me off a little bit, but I tried not to feed into it too much. About 2 or 3 weeks later, he started sending me "good morning"/"good afternoon" texts, asking how my day was & calling me cute little nicknames . I sent morning/afternoon texts back & asked how his day was too, but I wouldn't call him any cute nicknames for about a month & a half. So, he asked me out to the movies & I accepted , but he didn't show or call to let me know he wasn't coming. I texted him like twice but he didn't respond ; I didn't get worked up about it though. Instead I gave him the benefit of the doubt. I didn't hear from him until a day or 2 later. He explained himself & apologized, so I okay with it. We continued talking for about 2 or 3 months before I told him that I liked him a lot more than I

He doesn't!!!!!!! He doesn't get we have to have a plan, virgos kind of slowly go through life. My virgo wanted me to ALWAYS be up under him wgi,h I understand but I have things to do and he needs to be working on him as well. But he didn't want to do that, atleast not when I suggested it and that's fine. I would tell him that I would want to do somethinv or go somewhere, or even about my dreams and he would be like, am I included too?! What about me? But I don't think your virgo gets it ir gets the fact that you really care so much about him, and he may never know:/

"thought I would", was the end of that very last sentence.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
He doesn't!!!!!!! He doesn't get we have to have a plan, virgos kind of slowly go through life. My virgo wanted me to ALWAYS be up under him wgi,h I understand but I have things to do and he needs to be working on him as well. But he didn't want to do that, atleast not when I suggested it and that's fine. I would tell him that I would want to do somethinv or go somewhere, or even about my dreams and he would be like, am I included too?! What about me? But I don't think your virgo gets it ir gets the fact that you really care so much about him, and he may never know:/

Right! Smh, it sucks. They're so stubborn & I always felt certain things just flew over his head sometimes, he'd always miss the MAIN point I'm trying to make.

I almost feel like he believes you owe him something, that's how I feel about my virgo. It's like he feels obligated and he doesn't owe anyone anything. While you know your part in this, I damn sure hope he knows his. That's the messed up part about all of this, they don't believe they ever do anything wrong, or it's hard for them to admit to being wrong. It always someone hurting them. Like the world is against them! OMG!! Yess!!! Lol That's it! It's just a really sad story, and sometimes I just feel bad because my virgo actually does think the world is out to get him, but he also has to realize that it takes action to get a REaction, and he needs to know his part, he can't just do what he wants because he thinks everyone hates me, when that was never the case to begin with. Idk, I really love ny virgo and care for him, but it's really alot of work just to get them to understand that everything will bw okay, you don't have to pretend to be perfect, just ve you.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
I almost feel like he believes you owe him something, that's how I feel about my virgo. It's like he feels obligated and he doesn't owe anyone anything. While you know your part in this, I damn sure hope he knows his. That's the messed up part about all of this, they don't believe they ever do anything wrong, or it's hard for them to admit to being wrong. It always someone hurting them. Like the world is against them! OMG!! Yess!!! Lol That's it! It's just a really sad story, and sometimes I just feel bad because my virgo actually does think the world is out to get him, but he also has to realize that it takes action to get a REaction, and he needs to know his part, he can't just do what he wants because he thinks everyone hates me, when that was never the case to begin with. Idk, I really love ny virgo and care for him, but it's really alot of work just to get them to understand that everything will bw okay, you don't have to pretend to be perfect, just ve you.

Exactly, I feel he thinks I'm out to get him & the world revolves around him. I was wrong, but so was he 7 I doubt he'll admit to it.

I think they do miss the main points and solely focus on everything else that doesn't matter, which is probably they think everyone is out to get them, but like I said that's never the case

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He probably won't...smh...but just keep us updated girly and let is know how things roll🙂 It was nice talking to you...

And last week, the same girl posted on his page again & I flipped & blew his phone up cussing him out. He only responded back a few times, he didn't really argue back. He just said, "stop texting me". But I was so upset & hurt, I kept going. After so long, he wrote back, "you bored as f__k, lol". That made me even more mad so I said, "no, I'm hurt there's a difference. You're always acting so skeptical towards me, but you're the that's been doing underhanded sneaky sh__ . And what's so funny? You think playing with my feelings is a joke?". His response was, "I don't care lol about what you're talking about... you just making yourself look bad". So after cussing some more, I finally stopped. And when I got up the next day, I felt horrible. That's no way for a lady to behave. So I texted back apologizing for it & saying I'd still rather stay away b/c he acts like he has no regard for how he's hurt me or that I actually care for him. He didn't respond, but I'm pretty sure he got the text. That last text he sent is still stuck in my head though & I'm constantly analyaing it. Trying to figure out if he meant he doesn't care about what the other girl posted on his page or he doesn't care how I feel about it... Either way, I'd rather stay to myself.

Posted by amisunderstoodcap
He probably won't...smh...but just keep us updated girly and let is know how things roll🙂 It was nice talking to you...

I'll be back with updates; nice talking to you too.

There's nothing left to figure out! His text is clear as day! What part of leave me the f**k alone does not make sense to you?

I'm sorry if I'm being so mean, but seriously, your obsessive, erratic and controlling behavior will scare ANY MAN away!

Posted by Nebulous_Cloud9
There's nothing left to figure out! His text is clear as day! What part of leave me the f**k alone does not make sense to you?

I'm sorry if I'm being so mean, but seriously, your obsessive, erratic and controlling behavior will scare ANY MAN away!

I don't think you're being mean; just honest. But yeah, clearly he wants to be alone. So, that's what I'm gonna give him. I was never like this with him in the beginning. I had no problem with just sitting back & letting everything happen naturally. I think what changed me a little bit was when he said, "I come across the craziest females, why can't I find a down to earth chick?". After talking to him & working towards a serious relationship with him for almost an entire year straight, I took that comment as a disrespect & a slap in the face. It was so hurtful to me. And then, he continues with these rude behaviors like he doesn't care that I've developed sincere feelings for him. Causing me to lose my cool & flip out b/c I've held so much in to spare his feelings & trying not to push him away. But he's done it to me & seems to have no care in the world for how it hurts.

Posted by tiki33
Unfortunately this happens with a very insecure man, he'll play these kind of games because he hasn't figured out that he doesn't need this kind of approval to feel good about himself, any time a man's identity of himself is dependent upon women it's never going to make for a great relationship especially if his identity is tied to his penis, the more women the better he feels about himself, now what, he just turns into an asshole that play with women left and right in your face, behind your back because all of that behavior is who he is, doesn't mean he'll remain that way forever but that's were he's at in his life.

Yep..that! It may never change either. I battle this with my own Virgo and he's over 50...he's 50 shades of fucked up. he says he'd never cheat and when he says that he means physically. Yet, he will flirt and entice women, get to know them emotionally, and to HIM that is not cheating. It's how HE looks at things..has nothing to do with me.

"His response was, "I don't care lol about what you're talking about... you just making yourself look bad"."

Why be vulnerable with a guy that doesn't feel enough to not jerk you around.

You try not to appear thirsty but you are, you're giving him your full attention for his poor behavior and doing that ENABLES him to continue on with the very behavior you don't want/like.

He's lazy because certain females like yourself and the girl that chases him exist, he's done nothing outside of talk about future but what about now, he's doing NOTHING NOW that indicates he's really interested in pursuing anything with her or with you.

I know how hard this is for Cap24 being that she's the only one really feeling anything in this situation but IMHO she's kicking herself down by lowering herself to cussing him out only to turn around and apologize, I mean how many times do you have to lose yourself and turn into a green monster before you see what YOU ARE ALLOWING, you're allowing him to turn you into what he wants you to be thus losing yourself and if you continue apologizing you'll begin to feel like a piece of shit and feel crappy all of the time, LOSING YOUR POWER to him and essentially being like the same girl that's chasing him now, he's breaking her down inside so much so that she wants to spill her guts like the needy girl who constantly spill her guts over him. This dude is a player, that is what players do, they make a woman feel so thirsty and desperate inside that she'll chunk all of her standards/boundaries aside just to have him around, she turns herself into a desperate needy monster all for the sake of ONE guy, he's really not that special, least no more special than all of the other great guys on the planet. See how special you and the other girl make him feel, your needy behavior, your attention makes him feel safe, loved, appreciated but it's all at the expense of you 2 getting hurt in some way or another.

DISENGAGE NOW or lose yourself by becoming this desperate needy woman over his petty, no life nonsense he carries on daily. That's not who you are.

LMAO@50 shades of fucked up

I didn't apologize for what I said , just how I carried on. But yeah, I see your point tiki33 and I agree. Plus I found out something about him today that was a COMPLETE turn off (and somewhat of an insult) to me. I see now, I'm wayyyy out of his league & clearly to much of a good young woman for him. He can't handle me. I'm done. A person like him couldn't do anything to benefit my life, so I won't be sticking around.

I found out he's been contacting his ex & I guess trying to get her back. I'm very shy & reserved, but even I have an EGO & it told me, him ignoring me so that he could try to get his ex back is not only a downgrade & his biggest mistake, but also an insult to me. This girl is WELL know in our town for sleeping with sooo many guys in our generation. I know it. He knows it. The whole damn city knows it. And I'm getting passed up for that? Really? You gotta be kidding? Plus she's played him numerous times & she treats him like he's her b___. I don't know whether or not to feel sorry for him, though. I have a very gentle side that doesn't wanna come off rude... But I mean, wtf ?! Why would he wanna go back to a girl who he KNOWS is no good & even he's talked about how trashy she is. Yet, he's willing to let me go for THAT— He's definitely insecure & doesn't think much of himself. It's kinda sad. And I seen to AWLAYS come in contact with guys like this. The ones before him were the same way. I always had a feeling he was comparing me to her & expecting me to treat him bad the way she did. Smh. This is crazy. I'd never hurt anybody the way she's done him. But it's not my fault. This is his mistake. I tried & sincerely cared, whether he thinks so or not. I put way more effort into making it work than he did.

Not really. I had legit reasons for keeping my distance. His behavior was disrespectful & hurtful. She's played him & left him for other guys more than once, but if she thinks/finds out he's moving on with someone other than her, she has so much to say. Like it's okay for her leave whenever she wants & she should always be able to come back to him like he's her property or her b___. She treats him almost like a pimp treats whores. And he's so insecure, that he can't seem to break away from it. He's pretty much let her become his identity, from what I can tell. It's like she's got him trapped in a mindest that he'll never measure up to much without her. Emotional/Mental abuse type of thing. It's sad.

This thread is sad. The two of you were not even in a relationship and you'd swear by the length of your replies, analyzing him and his behavior, checking other girls social media pages, that this was a marriage and divorce. I bet you are a Scorp venus smh.

Cappi, I think you have the most issues of them all. You are obsessive, insecure, immature and you keep attracting the same type of guy because of it. You cant point fingers at anyone. YOU attract this.

I want you to direct your energy inward and work on yourself. You probably have a lot to give, and its unfortunate seeing it go to waste over something that didnt even exist. Wth?

You should come visit us at the Cap board so you can get your mind on something else a little more productive maybe. Maybe tell other things about yourself.

Posted by CapricornGirl24
Not really. I had legit reasons for keeping my distance. His behavior was disrespectful & hurtful. She's played him & left him for other guys more than once, but if she thinks/finds out he's moving on with someone other than her, she has so much to say. Like it's okay for her leave whenever she wants & she should always be able to come back to him like he's her property or her b___. She treats him almost like a pimp treats whores. And he's so insecure, that he can't seem to break away from it. He's pretty much let her become his identity, from what I can tell. It's like she's got him trapped in a mindest that he'll never measure up to much without her. Emotional/Mental abuse type of thing. It's sad.

And don't you see! This is the kind of woman he's attracted to so why on earth do you feel you ever had a real chance with this guy I don't know, he's attracted to garbage and so are you and that's why you stay focused in on him intently, Inana is right, you definitely have to begin to look inside of yourself and find out why you're attracted to bad men, basically men that are bad for you, because being attracted to men that are bad for you points to a deep void inside of yourself, there is something going on inside of you that you don't feel good about yourself that you need someone around you that makes you feel bad about yourself and he's the exact same way.

You can't judge him for liking garbage women when you actually like the same thing, you like and are attracted to men that have a lot of garbage and baggage or you would be gone by now, he'd be a distant memory.

You resent her for being a bitch because you're unable to stand on your own 2 feet and find your own inner bitch, you resent her for being what you're afraid to be. What's sad is that you spend a lot of your time analyzing him and the women in his life when you're just like HIM, he allow women (specific women/woman) to run all over him and you allow him to run all over you whenever you're in contact with him, get off your pedestal, you are like him but you can't see that because it's too close.

You must align your energy in a more positive direction, wish him the best and focus on developing your own inner bitch because have one, we women have an innate ability to be nice and still be a bitch when we have to be, focus on developing positive energy so you can attract the same like energy to yourself.

If you're not like him then let go, if you're not the kind of woman that cling to men with garbage behavior then let him go, if your standards are so much higher than his standards than let him go but if you can't then your being just like him, holding onto relationships that are one sided, unfair, toxic, off balance and unhealthy.

Posted by lnana04
This thread is sad. The two of you were not even in a relationship and you'd swear by the length of your replies, analyzing him and his behavior, checking other girls social media pages, that this was a marriage and divorce. I bet you are a Scorp venus smh.

Cappi, I think you have the most issues of them all. You are obsessive, insecure, immature and you keep attracting the same type of guy because of it. You cant point fingers at anyone. YOU attract this.

I want you to direct your energy inward and work on yourself. You probably have a lot to give, and its unfortunate seeing it go to waste over something that didnt even exist. Wth?

You should come visit us at the Cap board so you can get your mind on something else a little more productive maybe. Maybe tell other things about yourself.

I agree. My plan is too focus on myself & be more productive in other areas of my life (school, family, friends, etc). No longer focusing on him .

tiki33 , do you think not having my dad in my life could be the reason? I mean, I have a father but he isn't my biological father. My biological father, I haven't seen since I was about 4 or 5 years old. I'm soon to be 21yrs old, now. Don't really care to see my birth father either. He's a COMPULSIVE liar. Virgo guy doesn't know his father at all. He mentioned it off & on a couple times when we spoke, but always said it didn't matter to him. To me, it seems like it does matter a lot. Once, he randomly told me he had saw is real father for the first time when he was 15yrs old. His father saw him too & knew who he was, but didn't even acknowledge him. Now on my part, I hear when girls search for love they're usually searching for the love of their father whether they're aware of it or not. As you can see, I barely even know my real father. My step-father is cool, but I have to admit we don't have much of a bond like most little girls have with their fathers. So what steps should I take to pretty much learn to love myself more & rid myself of my insecurities now that I have kind of figured out what's wrong with me?

You both share something in common which is the absent father factor, I've seen women and men gravitate to unavailable absent partners because of the absent father factor, PM me directly and we can discuss this a bit more if you like.

Try reconnecting with your father. That can be the bulk of your internal issues.

And pop in you some old Mary J. Blige. She is a Capricorn and she dated Kci(Virgo). They are the perfect example of two broken people that tried to have a relationship. Disaster! And she eventually realized she was looking for her father thru him and other men. Her dad wasnt really there either.

My Virgo sis was a daddys girl who grew up with a hardly present father. Shes been sick lately, and her father has come thru full force. Its made her cry on occasions and goes to show the importance of that relationship. Her 1st love and relationship was horrible, but she was.probably looking for her dad thru him too.

If you can tract him down Cappie, do it.

Posted by lnana04
I bet you are a Scorp venus smh.

Lmao...

Posted by lnana04
Try reconnecting with your father. That can be the bulk of your internal issues.

And pop in you some old Mary J. Blige. She is a Capricorn and she dated Kci(Virgo). They are the perfect example of two broken people that tried to have a relationship. Disaster! And she eventually realized she was looking for her father thru him and other men. Her dad wasnt really there either.

My Virgo sis was a daddys girl who grew up with a hardly present father. Shes been sick lately, and her father has come thru full force. Its made her cry on occasions and goes to show the importance of that relationship. Her 1st love and relationship was horrible, but she was.probably looking for her dad thru him too.

If you can tract him down Cappie, do it.

That's the problem. I don't know where he is EXACTLY as far as his address, but I know we're in the same city. I could track him down, but he's never been the person to actually show up. Like when I was a little girl & he was suppose to spend time with me & my sister, he barely ever came to pick us up. No phone call to say he couldn't make it; nothing. He always uses the excuse of our mother was keeping him away from us. Not the case at all. She'd have us ready to go spend time with him. HE hardly was ever there. My mom isn't like that at all. I know it. She's too good of a woman. So even if I did track him down, I don't think it would even matter. I doubt he'll show & if he did he'll use that same dumb excuse. He uses it to this day. Different family members of mine have ran into him off & on thoughout the years and he says the same to them. They all know it's a lie too.

My mom taught us all of that (days, date & time)and we kept track, that's how we know he was lying. And your Virgos ex-wife definitely sounds psycho. Who does that to their children? Smh.

Wow, smh. That's crazy.