NO COMPRENDO... (Page 2)

Merci ma cherie! 😉

At least I'm consistant.

vgm I think you got the facts upside down. I saw him last on Friday, I erased all his information on Sunday, and his cell number appeared on my cell because he texted me afterwards, but I do not have his numbers saved. I erased his mssg right away. I do not have any of his contact information anymore, and I do not plan to get hold of him.

My question above was to see what was the style of Virgo males, do they quit getting hold of you if you don't reply or do they keep nagging? That is all I wanted to know... Curiosity killed the cat!

By the way, I have a date this weekend with a new guy! Un clavo saca otro clavo! Get that one! 😉

I think there is nothing mysterious about this....

You still have strong feelings for him, and he for you. Hence the hanging on....

Yet, you know that you are not satisfied with him...so you are being strong....

Perhaps this absence will change him...most likely not...but anything can happen...

In the meantime you have another date -- that's great.

I don't change this back and forth behavior -- I do it myself. We all have a strong need for love...and when it is "almost, but not quite", it's hard to let go.

change -- I mean "judge"

Eaglegirl: "and when it is "almost, but not quite", it's hard to let go."

sigh..

so true..Cos there isn't closure..

Keep it running in the background love..in the meantime go out and have fun..when he's made his sweet ass mind up...then go for it full throttle..(if you want to that is) don't stop living your life cos somebody happens to be sitting on the fence..

Escorpiana--

El amor es el trabajo...Love is definetely work!
With us Virgo's it's so true. As you might know, my Scorpio and I have WORKED at a variety of things in the last 4 yrs.
Sounds like you're doing the right thing by trying a new date this week. We do tend to be detached and usually take a LONG time to come around..only when we are feeling 'Really' secure do we do that. He may have extremely strong feelings for you as he says, but has issues in showing you affection/love constantly, I see that for Scorpios these things are imperative -- boy, are they ever!

Yes they are a must!...It can be shown in small ways but as long as its there..

I have been soooooo good! Yes, I have been very tempted to somehow find my Virgo man... I have thought about calling his place of work and seeing if he is there (he works at a hospital) or maybe call telephone directory information and see if he is listed, but I do not have his address anymore. I know were he lives but don't recall the name of the street.

Yes, lots of ideas have come to my head on how I can find him since I deleted all his information and I made a mental block not to recall his e-mail.

I am being very strong! I have not gotten hold of him since I said good bye on Sunday and he has not contacted me since his message Tuesday morning!

Virgos have lots of patience and I bet my Virgo man is testing me to see if I give in and I contact him, but as a good Scorpio that I am, once I set my mind into something, I stick to it... I am not going to contact him, he is out of my life... The love has been storage away and I am going forward. Painfully and slowly but ahead nevertheless!

Thank you for your support, as usual just venting here!!

BTW So far 17 days and no cigarettes! In fact my letting go of my Virgo man and quitting smoking, coincidentally has been something very difficult to give up, but it is great to give both up at the same time... The effort for one carries over to the other and it is much easier for me to handle both matters at the same time. Comprendes? 😛

Yes, Escorpiana -- totally understand. I have a feeling he'll break down and contact you eventually. Yes, hang onto that Scorpio vengeance and DON'T call! Good idea on deleting the phone #'s and email addresses. Also, Good job on quitting smoking -- I've been smoke-free 7 months now, it gets easier every day that passes. Hang in there and get out there and have a good time with others.

So "I have a feeling he'll break down and contact you eventually."


So you are so right, it just happened. I opened my messenger and I found this. My Virgo man wrote me:

(3/30/2007 2:25:58 PM): "I can't stop thinking of you. My heart aches for you. I have tried to remain strong but cannot any more. It's even more so now that I know how you feel about me. Please reconsider our relationship, I will do whatever to get you back in my arms, and in my life. Love"

I have not replied, and I do not know if I am going to... After reading so much about Virgo Males and knowing what I know about mine, I just don't know If I want to proceed in a relationship with him...

In my mind he should be calling me on the phone and not leaving me off messages.

Let's see what he does next... What would a Virgo male do? Any guesses?

I am so confused!

"I am so confused!"


That's quite apparant.

No idea about a Virgo male -- But, being a Virgo female, the text message does not surprise me! It's a way to hide emotion, hide it all behind a text, this way we don't hear voice or see face -- so much easier to face it this way. I know, it's silly and immature - we Virgo's tend to have difficulty with true intimacy. If you're feeling that he's truly not for you, then be done with it completely. It's a shame that he realized all of this so late in the game. By the way, Scorpios can be pretty intimidating to a Virgo, they come on strong and intense, so maybe this is "too much" for him. He might be willing to come up to the plate now, but, only you can decide if you want to have him back. Remember, Virgos won't be writing love poems and won't be constantly affectionate -- but we are honest (sometimes really blunt),loyal & usually pretty darn witty! Boy, I'm making Virgos sound like old reliable folk! - But it IS true...

P-Angel your posts/opinions and sarcasm (you and I know what I am talking about) are of no value to me. So, I kindly request you refrain from posting on the threads I start.

Thank you!

Escorpiona,

I really feel for this Virgo guy!

Just reiterate to him that he *must* learn to be more affectionate. Break it down for him....flowers so many times a month, holding hands at parties, sex at least once a week...Virgos can follow a schedule.

Give him another chance! I think he's genuine -- just needs some help, like so many Virguys.

Eaglegirl said "Just reiterate to him that he *must* learn to be more affectionate. Break it down for him....flowers so many times a month, holding hands at parties, sex at least once a week...Virgos can follow a schedule."


Learn to be affectionate? Either you are or you are not! Isn't it?

And

Schedule stuff?

Isn't love supposed to be natural?

Indeed like SO said above, love is LOTSSSSSS of work, specially when it comes to a Virgo male...

Eaglegirl, I just don't know... I need less blah blah blah and more glu glu glu, like I say, less talk and more action!

I am all talked out with this Virgo man. I do not know how more simplistic to tell him what my needs/wants/desires are. He seems to understand but then he reverts to NO COMPRENDO... and neither do I.

Still I have not contacted him, nor have I had a cigarette! 😛

"P-Angel your posts/opinions and sarcasm (you and I know what I am talking about) are of no value to me."


Apparantly, you aren't to yourself either.

Awfully coincedental that the words, "I love you" weren't said by you to him, until the goodbye note to him, which was said several times .. I love you (first time), but, have to leave you, too.

Then sit back and wait for a response .. you're just playing every angle you can to get him .. he responds by saying something to the effect of .. Now that I know how you feel about me, I want to still make this work .. that was the plan, wasn't it?

Am I the ONLY person who can see that this for what it means?

Escorpiona said, "Virgos have lots of patience and I bet my Virgo man is testing me to see if I give in and I contact him, but as a good Scorpio that I am, once I set my mind into something, I stick to it... I am not going to contact him, he is out of my life... The love has been storage away and I am going forward. Painfully and slowly but ahead nevertheless!"

Yes, as the good Scorpio you are, you have set your mind to something and you will stick to it .. problem is, what you've stuck your mind to is using any means necessary to reel him in .. even if it's saying "Good-bye, we're finished", and "I love you so much" .. at the same time.

You're fucking with him, because you CANNOT accept that you aren't his queen.

Sigh...

Dear old P Angel...shoving the truth down people's throats when no one's really interested...

It must be so awful to let people live their lives and make their own mistakes...

Escorp...

I think love is meant to be hard work. St Paul said that love is patient and long suffering, hopes all things, believes all things, bears all things. That doesn't sound like the traditional romantic view...but then, life is a lot harder than all of us think, eh?

All I wanted to say is that the guy sounds genuine. And you have only given this thing...what?... three or four months? *Chokes with laughter✨ Some things take time, and it sounds like there's potential.

Yeah, let him suffer. Don't call him. See how he feels in a month or so. Then get back to the bargaining table.

Scorpiogoat,

There's love and there's love. The deep love...yeah, hopefully that's always there...but we have to be aware of human traits such as the need for excitement and challenge -- men especially need and love this in their woman...thus Escorp not calling her Virguy for a while may give him a chance to sort out his priorities.

This kind of "suffering" is good for him.

Why is love complicated? Because people are...

My Virgo man called me, we talked. He asked me to dinner to the nice restaurant where we met for the first time, almost 5 months ago. I went, we met.

He was apologetic, sad but very open and up front. He said he had been very selfish and keeping me at an arm's length, afraid to get in a relationship and getting hurt. He said he missed me so much, and he wants me in his life. He thanked me for putting up with his S&@#(*^ these last few months, and was sorry. He further added that he did not blame me for waking away since he had been less than nice. But all that was in the past and it would be differnet now if I would take him back.

He was caring, very touchie feeling and affectionate. Not like him, well, the one I have known in the last few months, who had been so guarded all the time. He seemed he was opening up to me. He was very giving!

He asked for another change, another opportunity with me, and that this time he won't screw up. I told him I was very hesitant because I had voice my concerns in the past, and much did not change, but got worse. He said he knows it but that this time it will be differnet. He wants a love relationship with me.

He walked me to my car, we hugged. He was kissing me and had his hands all over me. I told him to stop it, that we were in a parking lot! We smiled, I left.

He sent me a text mssg saying "Good nite, my baby" Oh and he called me to ask me out to an early dinner this coming Tuesday night. He also asked me to his parent's for Easter and he wants me to take my kids (one married with her husband and baby and my teenager) to celebrate it all together. I have not accepted his invitation to his parents, told him I had to see what was planned with my kids. As to Tuesday nite, told him I had to see my calendar, but I thought I was free.

I think he is genuine this time around, and hopefully he will really put his effort now into "us" but for the time being I am not letting my guard down...

Can Virgo males change so dramatically in a relationship for the better? Just wondering...

PS My other date, a Sag, nice fellow but not my type...

"Dear old P Angel...shoving the truth down people's throats when no one's really interested..."


Yes, I've noticed that about people .. they would much prefer lies.

I am dealing with a very simmilar situation with a virgo man. I am a cancer with virgo rising. I think we have a bit more in common with each other than other signs since we are both very gaurded with our feelings. I too have to discuss important issues about our relationship via text messages. My virgo has been eyeing me for 10 years but never made a move. It was not until I decided to go after him did we start talking. It took 2 months of his never calling but always having a funny joke text for me until we actually started talking and went out on a date. He said hes not looking for a girlfriend but yet he treats me like one. I don't like fake titles myself so it didn't bother me so much since he treats me better than most boyfriends I know (of others). Yeah he's not so romantic but hes a good friend. Yes he does dissapear from time to time for a day or so but it's a good time to let me do my own thing. In my past relationship my ex took my life over right from the beginning leaving me no time or space for myself or other activities. Dealing with his sarcasm is annoying but understanding his intentions are not to hurt your feelings but to make you laugh kinda makes up for it. It is still very soon to tell were this is going. But I do feel like this will be a permanent relationship weather it is only friendship or something more. I haven't got to your point yet were I snap and decide not to respond to his calls but I think it's because I'm not really in a hurry to get a commitment at this point. I do know though that when a virgo knows your upset for real they don't like it and try to make things right but you have to hold your ground as you did and I'm proud of you for that and for quitting smoking. I find my virgo to be a big baby. Always testing me seeking reassurance. Always telling me of other girls that made a pass at him. (Ofcourse I pretend I'm jelouse) Always telling me of every little bump and boo boo he got so i can baby him and kiss it and make it better (he just melts). Are all virgos like this? Does yours do this too? This is not the first virgo I have dealt with. The last one is clearly madly inlove with me yet will never admit it since he knows I don't feel the same deep down. But tries to convince me that it's me thats madly inlove. I can go on and on. I really need virgo guy help too. I'm so glad how your story turned out. It really gives me hope. I do hope it works out for you.

I think he is genuine this time around,

He was genuine all the time, you are the one who misinterpreted his signals and initiate the damn on/off games.

God help him

"Dear old P Angel...shoving the truth down people's throats when no one's really interested..."


Yes, I've noticed that about people .. they would much prefer lies.


LMAO? ?listening to the lies or telling the lies?..??

Shut up fishbitch and get of this board..!

Love life is not finding something to live with but its finding someone you cant live without..!


Be it Virgo or not..

Stop fooling yourself or others. .make up your mind..

Hey Jada. My virgo guy whom I just started dating says that he doesnt want to be a boyfriend yet he acts and treats me as if I'm his girlfriend. Do you think I should go by his words or his actions. I don't think any virgo would decide on being anyones girlfriend so soon anyway. It's only been 3 months. What do you think?

Not to burst your bubble, but Virgos will become more affectionate and open when they feel that they've messed up. It doesn't last long at all.

>> I find this funny.. So may be create a scene in which virgo messes up and then its' their fault so you will eventually WIN.

He will retreat again. It's in the nature of their personality. So you really have to prepare yourself for this because it can make you frustrated and impatient.

>> And when they retreat with 7 oceans of love that will be so SOFFOCATING And SCARY that you will want to run away from them for the love and care they provide you.. They basically SPOIL you and you will feel like you are totally being CONTROLLED by their subtle and sweet charm BUT when you will feel you are being controlled by them, it will TOOOOO late that you can not back off!!!!

"So may be create a scene in which virgo messes up and then its' their fault so you will eventually WIN."


Funny?

It's not that the wind is blowing .. it's what the wind is blowing.

To have the wind blowing Victory, is a "that" a person won .. what's in the wind, though? A feeling of superficial sentiment because it had to be scored?

Don't people want others to love them because they do, for real? Or, does it not really matter?

Is the aim to just "feel" loved for our own ego boost .. and not really "be" loved?
I don't understand "thaters" .. that something happens, or is said .. what does that mean if it isn't meant from the heart? How does "that" make a person feel valuable?

Today I am in a light mood so really do not want to debat on "feeling" vs "being"..

That's virgos job! I do not like to super analyze though I see what you are saying..

But I have discovered that virgos DO FEEL and its not that scoring stuff, as even if we play game with virgos- until they will FEEL and will be 1000% sure, they won't commit. Simple as that..I also think they think about us first and more than we think about ourselves . Sometimes that looks like their insecurities and yes they do have tons of that but its amazing to see how a virgo can think about others first and for himself at the end of the chain!

This does not apply to talktive, superficial libra cusp virgos though..This applies to
PURE virgos only..

"Now on the flip side of that, a Virgo will pick any woman to satisfy some temporary needs AT THE MOMENT."

I think that applies to all men lol. But for the most part I think I'm special to him. He texts me good night every night even if I haven't talked to him all day. I even get a good morning if he knows he has to be up before me. When hes been out drinking with the guys and is less inhibbited he calls me. Not for a booty call but just to talk and be silly and tell me how much he misses me and can't wait to see me.

He does play alot of mind games but I'm a cancer and we are masters of manipulation so I can spot them a mile away lol. I try not to call him out on them because I know they don't like people getting in there head.

The way he acts towards me is the same way a 4 year old boy would act towards his mother. Is this common? Like I mentioned before he tells me about every little bump and boo boo he gets. He tests me to see how much he can get away with. When he has been bad he hides and then comes out with other distractions that remind me how wonderful he is. He teases me with his affection and it isn't until I tell him to eff off and he knows i'm seriouse he chuckles in amusement and starts babying me again.

He has a huge ego and alot of pride and knowing all this keeps me 10 steps ahead. All I need to do is give him the perception of being incharge and he's a happy camper.

Yes it is a roller coaster but it's mentally stimulating. I'm sure for him as well as me.

Another thing I noticed when we first started talking was he would introduce me to his friends and say "this is my friend _____. Isn't she beautiful?" But it was almost like he was really looking for a second opinion. They would all agree for the most part so that wasn't and issue 😉. And it wasn't until a close friend of his told him that I was a great catch and he shouldn't pass me up that he started to really want to see me more often.

What are some other signals to look for that I am potentially "the one"?

Actually .. that wasn't referencing the Virgo, rather, the person pursueing.

"superficial libra cusp virgos"

lol .. "that" something is known as to "what" it means, doesn't matter to a person.
I don't get it, perhaps, I never will ..

Completely understand that you don't want to over-analyze and NOT asking for a response, rather, trying to sort through this .. it doesn't make sense.

To win over the PURE Virgo, through creating a scene (drama) in which he fails, so as to cause him to come to you because he has been led to believe that he failed you, is not considered superficial because it comes after the game was played, which means he does have REAL feelings now, and so is 1000% sure .. which should lead to commiting .. however, this doesn't apply to the superficial Virgo/Libra cusps because they already have superficial feelings, so the game doesn't have to be played .. so, since the game doesn't have to take place thier superficial feelings are already real?

So, the aim is just commitment? Being real doesn't really matter to the female, so long as the victory of commitment is scored?

Just asking myself out-loud .. don't have to answer.

Lol thats funny P-Angel. My virgo guy is a Libra/Virgo cusp. And so is my boss but thats comepletely separate.

I think for the most part virgos are very superficial since they are very insecure thinking all eyes are on them and in turn they have to always look good no matter what they are doing. And thats what we must appeal to when trying to win the heart and mind of a virgo.

I had to reread your out loud thought a few times till i fully understood what you were thinking but it is right and as twisted as it may seem welcome to the world of dating a virgo. lol

Thanks HappyCrab, though, the world of dating a Virgo isn't new to me.

Like yours, mine rings me at least 6 times a day when he's away at work. Mine doesn't play head games, though, at least not the kind women talk about in here.

Hope you find your way into his heart. 🙂

P Angel I think the head games come from his uncertainty and are tests that hes putting me through testing me out to see if I'm real. Like i said it's only been 3 months. We have a loooong way to go.

I'm not even sure I know what the word, "real" means with clarity .. every persons interpretation seems to vary.

Yeah, 3 months is like 3 seconds in Virgo time, lol. I've told people this before in here, but, not you, so here goes: With mine .. I just took him. Didn't give him the choice .. you're coming with me, I said, pack your clothes. He liked that domination over him .. still does, actually.

The road ahead is gonna be long one .. buckle down.

I think real is all in our mind. We all live in our own realitys. I think your right about the take charge thing bec this guy has been eyeing me for 10 years and it wasn't until I decided I wanted him and I made things happen until things started happening.

Hell, I have a few Virgo friends who are still waiting for a particular person to come and take them away .. someone they are attracted to and just sit and wait. It's kind of funny, sometimes, when I read about women in here who are patiently waiting for the Virgo, and in here trying to get insight as to what he's waiting for .. he's waiting for YOU to take him, not the other way around. They aren't aggressive in securing you, you have to be the one. Oh well, people do what people do.

I'm glad you are pursuing him if he's been waiting for 10 years .. I hope he makes you happy.

Not easy, Scopiogoat .. it wasn't easy, just in-charge .. there's a difference.

Escorp...

I am happy for you. But I have to agree with Redrovertoo...you ask for too much advice...don't seem to be able to take the relationship at facevalue.

I mean, you're not 21, girfriend! You're a mature woman. So where's the famous Scorpio intuition? Sometimes you sound plain demanding...and all us Scorp females know about that! Let's face it -- we are the most finicky of all, leaving Virgs in the dust at times.

Anyway, I'm glad for you. He sounds like a sweet decent guy...

Escorpiona

Listen honey...I have dated 4 virgo men in my life my last boyfriend of 3 years was a virgo and the man I am involved with now for about a year and a half is also a virgo and let me tell you that 5 months to them is like 5 days. It takes them a long time become emotionally attached to women because they want to make sure that she is the right one because they take love and committment very seriouly and they are in it for the long haul...I'm talking about years. The also like to grow with an individual because love comes to virgo men very slowly so you must be patient with him but I am going to tell you the truth if you are not willing to be patient then you better start looking elsewhere because these men will not be rushed into doing anything they are not ready for. My virgo friend just started coming to see me more than once week about 2 weeks ago so I know how you feel about him not coming around even once a week. I remember when my virgo was not coming around for weeks at a time but you have to be the one who sticks with it and that can only happen if you truly love this man if not then it's a waste of time for the both of you. I just started seeing a major change in my virgo within the last 3 months and we have been dating since jan 06 but known each other for 8 years. The only reason why i hung in there with him is because he is such a good man and his heart is made of gold and he is also very honest and that is hard to come by these days. So just hang in there dear but only if you truly love him!

So true! Five years to us is like 5 days. Right on the money...and that DOES irritate many folks.

Let me get this straight then just out of curiousity. 5 years is like 5 days to Virgo people. So when I haven't heard from a Virgo in like 4 months that is like maybe 4 days in his mind? Isn't it more like a person isn't interested in you if takes so long for them to get in touch with you? I just find that fascinating and also irritating. I've put it down to he's gone forever now anyway but I've never had anyone act like this before.

I am dating a cancer who acts VERY similar in taking it SUPER slow. Could this be his mars in virgo??

Mystical--

Totally understand the irritation but it is true. Sometime, not calling for a week/two weeks doesn't necessarily mean we're completely uninterested. Seems really odd to most people, but, we do take it really SLOW and it takes time for us to allow someone to get really close.