Sag Mom and Virgo Child - Simplify my love.

This topic was created in the Virgo forum by sagittariusxo on Thursday, July 20, 2017 and has 16 replies.
Im hoping to get help to understand and grow with my son , i'm having a really hard time relating and understanding him. to make it simple I feel like I'm doing everything wrong in his eyes and I don't think he likes me.

I wanna know what I should focus on the most, what I need to work on, what I should watch for and be careful of, what I need to be empathic too. i just want to understand him and know what to do.


Ethan is 7 years old - Sun in Virgo and Moon in Scorpio, His 6 house is the only things that is Sagittarius

i have his cart but im so untrained at understanding everything and its a lot to read and someone please help me simplify.

struggle i have:

he's kind of mean, to me and to others. he never feels bad or apologizes. he never wants to do anything when i suggest fun things and when i mention things i know he will love he always denies loving it. he can be very negative and complain a lot. he also says very depressing things about himself.

how can a sag help? and should a sag not do?
Sun - Virgo

Moon - Scorpio

Mercury and Venus - Virgo

Mars - Cancer

Ascendant - Cancer

5th House - Sagittarius

his chart info
What is happening in the 6th house ?
Posted by sagittariusxo
Sun - Virgo

Moon - Scorpio

Mercury and Venus - Virgo

Mars - Cancer

Ascendant - Cancer

5th House - Sagittarius

his chart info
Create a chart at astro.com .... The houses are very important as is Chiron
1ST HOUSE -CANCER

2ND HOUSE - LEO

3RD HOUSE - VIRGO

4TH HOUSE - LIBRA

5TH HOUSE - SCORPIO

6TH HOUSE - SAGITTARIUS

7TH HOUSE - CAPRICORN

8TH HOUSE - AQUARIUS

9TH HOUSE - PISCES

10TH HOUSE - ARIES

11TH HOUSE - TAURUS

12 HOUSE - GEMINI
Banter w him tbh or just be playful

Like maybe it's bc I'm a Virgo myself but if he was like:

Mini Virgo: *says something mean*

Me: oh rlly? FIGHT ME LETS TUSSLE LETS GO

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Hopefully he'll grow out of it, I think he just needs to be humbled.

You could also try the emotional route since he has those water placements but idk I'm not good w/ water placements
Put up the circular chart from astro.com....they're easy to create
don't worry, he'll grow out of it.
Virgo here, perhaps I can shed a little bit of insight as my mom tells me that I was VERY headstrong as a child, when I beg to differ and thought I was always a little angel.

It should also be noted that up until the age of around 6-7 children tend to portray, and embody their moon sign to the fullest. Their emotional side, or their moon sign tends to dominate over their sun sign until around the age of your sun 7-8. Therefore he will begin to start exuding more traditional traits of a Virgo in time.

A common misconception among fire signs when approaching a Virgo, is that we appear to be very cold, reserved and lacking emotional depth. This is not true. Behind the cold stare, and words of perfection we are lovers, and we love to be loved, touched, cuddled, on our own terms though lol.

Now, my mother is a Cancer, and she was very and sometimes even overly motherly in my opinion. She always made sure she was right by my side and tried to help me with things. I did not enjoy being helped with things and apparently made it a point to tell her from a young age, "LET ME DO IT, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT." We love to help, we also love to do things on our own versus with people. You must understand that we NEED our alone time to recharge from all the social interaction as we tend to be highly intuitive often feeling the feelings of others, and at a young age it is very hard to decipher whether or not those feelings are your own, or another.

Therefore if you have it in your head that "your son doesn't like you" he will INSTANTLY pick that up, and act just as so. It is so crucial to make sure that your thoughts are a direct reflection of how you want him to act, just pretend he can read your mind. (he probably can)

My best friend is a Sagittarius. She taught me how to be myself even in large crowds of people, and to not be so nit-picky. As a Virgo we are often so keen on details that we miss the bigger picture, and don't understand how others are not as consumed with the details as we are. This is where the Sagittarius comes in, you help us free ourselves. Of course, we don't enjoy feeling "free" all the time, as we like to work hard, it brings us a sense of personal accomplishment.

Ask him for help on tasks, assign him little things to accomplish on his own, he will beam with excitement when he is pleased with his own work. We also enjoy anything artistic or musical, ask him to draw you a picture, or create some new form of art. We also enjoy being outside, although a scorpio moon may draw him more indoors sometimes.

The sun/moon combination is also interesting, read this little piece of info might give you some insight as well.

PS: I have a gemini moon.

Be confident in yourself!!! He will pic up on this smile

http://www.universal-tao-eproducts.com/mp/files/sun-moon_virgo-scorpio.pdf

Posted by startwars
don't worry, he'll grow out of it.
Do you wanna bet?

Lol
The Scorpio Virgo combo can be quite challenging
Don't bother trying to understand him that won't get you anywhere.

Love him unconditionally is your main focus.

Also don't think to deep into what he says as he can't separate his mind from his mouth at 7 years old.

That is something he will grow up learning the hardway.
My son is a Virgo also with a Scorpio moon. He's 10, he likes to argue, he's the adult lol

I don't feel like he's "mean" just not as playful as other kids, he's definitely more serious

He doesn't act his age AT ALL! He likes to hang with kids that are a few years older.

I know what you mean though about not relating to him haha I'm an Aquarius and I feel like

we are very different but I really appreciate how vocal he is because I am not. Can always count on him

to be honest lol.
Posted by QueenVirgo333
Virgo here, perhaps I can shed a little bit of insight as my mom tells me that I was VERY headstrong as a child, when I beg to differ and thought I was always a little angel.

It should also be noted that up until the age of around 6-7 children tend to portray, and embody their moon sign to the fullest. Their emotional side, or their moon sign tends to dominate over their sun sign until around the age of your sun 7-8. Therefore he will begin to start exuding more traditional traits of a Virgo in time.

A common misconception among fire signs when approaching a Virgo, is that we appear to be very cold, reserved and lacking emotional depth. This is not true. Behind the cold stare, and words of perfection we are lovers, and we love to be loved, touched, cuddled, on our own terms though lol.

Now, my mother is a Cancer, and she was very and sometimes even overly motherly in my opinion. She always made sure she was right by my side and tried to help me with things. I did not enjoy being helped with things and apparently made it a point to tell her from a young age, "LET ME DO IT, I KNOW HOW TO DO IT." We love to help, we also love to do things on our own versus with people. You must understand that we NEED our alone time to recharge from all the social interaction as we tend to be highly intuitive often feeling the feelings of others, and at a young age it is very hard to decipher whether or not those feelings are your own, or another.

Therefore if you have it in your head that "your son doesn't like you" he will INSTANTLY pick that up, and act just as so. It is so crucial to make sure that your thoughts are a direct reflection of how you want him to act, just pretend he can read your mind. (he probably can)

My best friend is a Sagittarius. She taught me how to be myself even in large crowds of people, and to not be so nit-picky. As a Virgo we are often so keen on details that we miss the bigger picture, and don't understand how others are not as consumed with the details as we are. This is where the Sagittarius comes in, you help us free ourselves. Of course, we don't enjoy feeling "free" all the time, as we like to work hard, it brings us a sense of personal accomplishment.

Ask him for help on tasks, assign him little things to accomplish on his own, he will beam with excitement when he is pleased with his own work. We also enjoy anything artistic or musical, ask him to draw you a picture, or create some new form of art. We also enjoy being outside, although a scorpio moon may draw him more indoors sometimes.

The sun/moon combination is also interesting, read this little piece of info might give you some insight as well.

PS: I have a gemini moon.

Be confident in yourself!!! He will pic up on this smile

http://www.universal-tao-eproducts.com/mp/files/sun-moon_virgo-scorpio.pdf

I really really really appreciate this and I appreciate you.

thank you for your virgo detail in helping me understand him a little bit better.

a lot of what you said is making sense and it seems as though I have a little direction of action.

think I take from this is - I need to ask for his help more - not really a sag thing to do, as im a do it myself always type of sign - task are good. he is about to be 8 - so that works as now is a great time to give him chores around the house and we can set a time every day to get our chorus done together.

Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by startwars
don't worry, he'll grow out of it.
Do you wanna bet?

Lol
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agreed, im not looking to chance a "grow out of it" type thing

my child is learning the basics of life right now and I need to make sure he grows up not only physically healthy and strong, but mentally healthy and strong......as well as smart.

i must make sure as his mother, and a single mother at that that he has the emotional support and proper relationship with me so that I don't miss a thing... especially at times im needed. Children have some serious emotional issues these day and put a lot of that on their parents (personally)

that is the point to this post. to be open minded and aware always as a mother
Posted by SomeSortOfMermaid
One of my closest friends is a virgo sun scorpio moon (and cancer mars ffiw), her mother is a sag. They used to clash so much when she was growing up.

Her mother is very loud and outgoing and my friend is the opposite, serious and quieter. Her mother was too brash and forceful with her, and my friend would rebel against it.

Now though they get on better because her mother became way more laid back, because you can't boss an adult around lmao

I think what would've helped was if the mother would just stop and listen every now and then. Even though a child, she was very clever and with it but had literally no say in anything and got bossed around a lot.
Ugh- thank you for this insight.

the first things that comes to mind is my over used comment of " when your 18 you can do whatever you want but until then you gotta do what I say because I know best"

so yes im a bit controlling, and I think its because our personalities are different and I don't like when he his critical or rude, or when he doesn't want to be active or when he doesn't want to help. but I think the love and affection place into that, I need to be more playful with him when I need things and not so demanding.

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