Nasty Astrology - Aries

Arians are independent and hold most people in contempt. They have a quick fiery temper and are impatient and scornful...

This topic was created in the Aries forum by venusianbull on Friday, January 29, 2010 and has 84 replies.
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typical vigo playing the victim cared
Posted by wgamador

I wish i had the answers you seek. I tried my best to never give her a bad day.
When we were in love she was awesome. I mean she always made sure i didnt have a bad day either.
Why do you think it hurt to see her go.


sorry to say it but it really is a case of virgo in martyr mode. you are playing victim. i know you can't see that because you are truly wounded by this event but none of this makes sense and therefore, your lack of perspective and ownership is transparent.
you'd be the FIRST man in history of human beings walking upright to get EVERYTHING right...ok, sans Jesus. you have actually convinced yourself that for FOUR years, there were no issues in the relationship and yet...

My dream relationship ended in a nightmare that i could have never imagined.


uhm...that's probably why it ended in a nightmare. how can you be so clueless? i didn't date you and your attitude is pissing me off. i couldn't imagine a relationship ending (poorly or not) and self-righteously stating that i was the embodiment of perfection. whether you acknowledge it or not, it's becoming increasingly clear (to me at least), why she left. i don't even need a specific event at this point.

Whatever i did during and after the relationship must have been really terrible since she never reached out to me ever again.


UHM YEAH! and the fact that you are totally oblivious to it means that you sucked as a boyfriend. maybe she put up with it as long as she could and couldn't stand anymore? maybe she had enough of dealing with someone who thinks he walks on water and who undoubtedly as a virgo, critiqued her actions along the way?

Thanks, someday i will find comfort and wont even think about that stuff.
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dude, who are you kidding? it's been 16 years. do you think you're just going to miraculously "find comfort" or stop thinking about her? the fact that you're sad isn't what i find strange. the fact that you were totally oblivious to how you contributed to the downfall of this relationship is.
and how old were you two? you said you dated for 4 years and that it ended when you were 20? so you were both teenagers and now as an adult, you're judging a CHILD'S inability to maturely handle a break-up?
and right after that hug he needs a good hard smack.
WAKE UP! either you're faulting this woman because it's easier to do so than take responsibility for your own actions or you have reinvented history by leaving out anything that negatively reflects on you during the course of your relationship.
if this weren't going on for 16 years, no big deal. but after 16 years, you're using this event as a crutch.
if home girl doesn't respond, trust me, it's because you were clueless then and she's literally asking herself, "why the hell is he contacting me? he did this/that and no, time doesn't heal all wounds."
if you wounded her somehow in the past, the email we worked on wouldn't work. why? because what she really need to hear/read was. for the past 16 years i have never forgiven myself for "x" and would like to sincerely apologize for "x" and seek your forgiveness. if that's not possible, i understand but i couldn't let another moment go by without saying i apologize.
anyhoo...
"Id love to say I'm sorry.....but maybe i need to hear it from her just as much."
doesn't matter what you need to hear. an apology is about seeking forgiveness and forgiving yourself. your apology shouldn't be contingent upon hers. she doesn't owe you anything. if she grants you forgiveness or apologizes to you for her actions, great. but if she doesn't, it really shouldn't matter. be the bigger person and own up to your mistakes. whatever else happens is up to her.

"Maybe she got bored. How about that for a reason. Maybe I didnt do a specific thing and she just got bored with me."
could be. i just find it EXTREMELY hard to believe that things were perfect prior to the bar incident and in 2 week span she decided that you were the most vile person on the planet and it was time to move on. obviously you missed some signs along the way. but if you say that prior to those two weeks she was the picture of sanity and "all of sudden," viewed you as the devil...ok.

"she becomes meaner and changes her number, i go into denial that she doesnt want anything to do with me, i try to see her in person, she doesnt appreciate it and avoids me, i begin to accept it but still am very hurt and angry."
so you stalked her?
you assaulted someone she had ties to? the assault had to be pretty violently given that i recall you were in jail for a good minute right?
it's been 16 years but do you think you possibly scared the CRAP out of her? do you think she will regard your contacting her as a friendly make up or "oh my God, he's back and go purchase a gun?"
also, you're saying that prior to this event, you were even-tempered? at all times?
that was very raw, very real. i appreciate your sharing as you really didn't have to. i picked up on some things and note, i'm nitpicking on purpose because maybe if you change the story from the way you've always viewed it, to the way she possibly viewed it, you'll understand her motivations better.

"Thats the thing I mean, when you are that age, there are no financial issues and we didnt fight, i mean I dont recall anything she ever did to upset me when we were together. I dont count the year we were friends, I wanted her to really fall for me and not be just another guy."
^i don't recall anything SHE EVER DID TO UPSET ME when we were together. read that VERY carefully...again and again if you must.
this is how virgos rationalize and it's kinda creepy because you really did dig deep and yet, came up wearing blinders...again. this isn't a matter of semantics. you honestly can not hold onto her POV long enough to truly relate to it. you will invariably make the situation about what you feel/felt. that's what's inhibiting you. simply put...
DO YOU RECALL ANYTHING YOU EVER DID TO UPSET HER? look, there could be "nothing" or more likely, there was something, some little things and you missed each and every one of them because for you, things were great. but if you can't stop looking at this in terms of wga's emotions, how you are ever going to recall any of that? how are you ever going to truly relate to her?

"stupid street code...i know...but i lived in the projects i was from the streets. I know its hard for you folks who never experienced ghetto life to understand how stupid violence is...but to us its the way it is. Anyways he said, we dont have to do this"
^deflection...again. you speak of how it is in the streets and here's this dude, from the same streets, who says, let's smoke peace pipe. MAYBE he sensed your frustration. MAYBE he realized he did you wrong. MAYBE he was trying to be mature. MAYBE his reaction has nothing to do with cowardice.
also, his jaw was broken and that's usually the sign that someone was caught off-guard by a punch. so MAYBE, although you thought he saw it coming, he didn't. MAYBE he didn't expect you to lose your damn mind over some na-na. sounds like you were the "punk bitch."
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how are you so sure that the two of them were even together? maybe he did aries chick, maybe he didn't. maybe she told you she was dating someone else thinking that would make you leave her the hell alone. if dude confirmed it, maybe it was bravado...i mean, you posted up on him and there were obviously folks around during our confrontation. or is it not entirely plausible that during the 3 months of no contact, she'd dated dude for a bit, realized she didn't like him and was experiencing life as a single, young and now adult woman? did you ever consider that you assaulted this guy and someone else...or no one else was diddling your girl?
my point is, if you didn't have contact with her for THREE MONTHS, even though you hadn't moved on, she could've slept with God knows how many guys during that time frame OR she could've been at home most nights playing yahtzee. maybe you didn't lose her to a man? maybe you lost her due to your own stupidity and lack of ability to measure/evaluate situations outside of a solitary perspective?

"now had i knew he was a punk little bitch who doesnt think there are consequences when you fuck with the wrong people...i wouldnt have fought him.
^virgos...WACKED! it's his fault that you couldn't control yourself? if you were a chick, you'd be the type of little girl who beats up the other woman because you can't/won't take your frustration out on the guy who's fucked it up for both of you. YOU behaved like a bitch and even now, you blame him for your bitch ass move.
virgo ratonale is, "don't wear short-cut dresses and you won't get raped." he wasn't begging for it wga. your girl cheated, she cheated with him. your beef was and always has been with her.

"So maybe i scared her off when she found out i had beat that guy up.......but damn it wasnt like i planned it.... had she given me 2 minutes, i could have assured her that i wouldnt harm her ever. And through all the hurt and rejection"
^yea, it's her fault. if only she would've spoken to you, you would've have lost your damn mind and assaulted an innocent human being. if she had just continued dealing with you when she didn't want to, you wouldn't have had to stalk her, to violate her need for privacy, to jeopardize her work situation...
she didn't owe you shit. your heart was broken. you're not the first person to lose someone they love and yet, you so desperately want me to understand your pain. dude, my first love broke up with me the day before my mother passed away. he was so fucked up that he didn't even drive me to the airport. if anyone "deserved" to be hospitalized, that bastard did.
pain doesn't give you the right to be a jackass and where you may say, "i know, i was wrong," you don't. that's why you spent so much time justifying your behavior.

"I just needed her to make sure to tell her mother why i was in jail and how I didnt blame anyone but myself and I thanked her sister who was there for me on those nights when Aries girl wasnt."
^translation, "her sister was still talking to me so see, i wasn't so bad. the aries was being irrational and i needed to justify my behavior to anyone who would listen."
again, the aries didn't owe you. either she was spiteful and vindictive or she WAS SCARED/TIRED OF YOU! she wanted NOTHING TO DO WITH YOU! i know it hurts to be dismissed like garbage but you don't get to control another person's actions/behaviors/thoughts virgo.

i didn't know there was a restraining order and had i known, i would've told you not to send the email. maybe she'll respond but i wouldn't hold out for it. the way you say she reacted on the phone was the same way i reacted to my scorp-ex. *I* was shocked by how nasty, rude i was but it had to be done.
i had been telling his sorry ass FOR MONTHS that he wasn't listening to me. sure, things may have seemed ok but that's only because i was letting shit slide. eventually, i got tired of repeating myself. i have the patience of Job but your ignoring me to the point where i have to state the same thing over and over is a sure fire way to piss me the fuq off.
having ignored me for months, during the breakup, he wanted to know '"Why" and to fix thing. that only insulted and enraged me further. remember, i told him why...repeatedly! i would tell him to leave me alone, that i needed time, he would call more which would piss me off more. i eventually had to threaten a restraining order to rid myself of him.
long story short, i got a lot of aries in my chart and where i think an aries has a shorter fuse, i totally relate to her behavior at the end of the breakup IF you, like my Scorp, didn't get/understand what i was trying to tell you for MONTHS! i felt and still feel insulted. merely thinking about the scorp makes me feel a little flush. i LOATHE him that much.
i had been ignored, my feelings had been ignored, i had repeated myself for the LAST time and it angers me that anyone could be so self-absorbed and callous to keep doing the same thing over and over and over after i asked them not to.
that's what a restraining order is about. get it? you didn't listen...you didn't respect her...maybe you missed more than you're aware of during the course of those 4 years. i'm sorry you did. maybe you'll never remember. maybe there's nothing to remember. but honestly, i think you're more to blame than you're willing to accept/acknowledge.
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"...i know but she didnt give a fuck anymore. I didnt know what to do. i tried everything to be cool with it all but it was impossible. Dont hold that shit against me, i was young and very very hurt"
^THIS is the virgo psyche...
i beat myself up for 16 years. no one is more remorseful than i. i'm the one who lost the love of my life. i'm the one who was provoked to fight and ended up in jail. i'm the one who had to overcome all of these obstacles. i know where i went wrong, i'm better now, so don't judge me for my past.
^this your point? if so, f-that! you don't get the right to demand what others should hold against you. let me put it in a different perspective...

imagine that you fought dude, he fell, hit his head on the pavement and died instantly. involuntary manslaughter.
although you could explain how/why/what, how DARE you tell his fam/friends that in effect, they need to get over it. that that was then, this is now so "don't hold it against me."

how shitty of you would that be?
virgos figure that when they're ready to move on, because they've flogged themselves enough mentally, no one can punish them worse than themselves. and yet, when they hear the harsh words from someone other than themselves, for the FIRST time, they get defensive, they self-pity and blame even further. eventually they won't be able to deal with the REAL critique, will become dismissive and run.
sometimes facing the people you've hurt doesn't end in a hug. sometimes it ends in the person making you feel worse than when you started. remember, 16 years for you, day ONE for them. a coward runs. a mature man/woman stands in the shame and owns it...until.

you brought up your neighbor. how many people had a first love breakup that hurt? how many of them stalked their ex to the point of a restraining order and assaulted the alleged bf/gf and ended up in jail?
you are so self-absorbed, your ego is just THAT large that you think your pain justifies your behavior. as if your love was more/better than what people have been feeling throughout the course of history.
based on your logic, the type of person that gets you is a dude who choked the life out of his ex. see, he loved her SO MUCH and he just wanted to..., so don't hold it against him.
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you're like those bastards in jail who spend their entire time inside talking about the events that led up to their incarceration. this is normal...replay the events over and over. at some point, you get to the event itself and it's at that moment, it SHOULD STOP BEING ABOUT YOU. at that moment it's...
i knew her daily on-goings and i used this information to stalk her and make her uncomfortable.
where i believed i would've never harmed her physically, i can only imagine how uncomfortable she was going about her day wondering if i was going to pop from behind a bush to "talk."
i showed up at HER HOME when i was asked to leave her alone.
i called her at home to the point where she had to change her number.
i called her at work, posed as someone else, violated her privacy and forced her to lose her temper in a professional environment that put money in her pocket and food on her table.
my actions forced her to take legal action.
my actions were so over the top that she got a restraining order.
months later, i find the guy i believe her to have been sleeping with. i violently assault him.
this assault negates any "i would never harm you" perceptions my ex would've had.
i used my fists when i could no longer use my words.
i tried to justify it. i called reached out to her sister when i couldn't reach out to her. i left her with the perception that if i want to get to you, i will. i will find a way.
where i pray that she knows i meant no harm, i caused her to distress, worry and fear me.
mentally stable people do not handle breakups this way.
my actions were not that of a man who was in control.
if faced with the same trauma today, i would do things differently i would...
back then however, i "lost it." i had a break with reality, not during the assault. my crazy behavior began the moment she said goodbye.
16 years later, i'm still lost and i am NOW, for the FIRST time, trying to find.

STOP making light of what you did. you NEEDED to take courses to address your actions. shame on the judge for letting you get out of it. you haven't learned anything. you could be a ticking time bomb. you show little to NO remorse.
now get mad at me for getting real with you or for ONCE in the past 16-20 years, get real with yourself.
oh yeah, for the second time, how old was she/you?
oh, and i meant that the judge should've required you to take anger/pain management courses but i know, that's only required when you are granted and accept parole. just because you weren't forced to take them, doesn't mean you didn't need them. you DID and DO need them.
if you were the picture of sanity before she broke up with you, you must've "snapped." and your dormant bedbug ass can "snap" again if you're not careful Tongue
pffffffffft!
i always said to myself, who fucking cares.
you do.
i respect you for having the courage to get closure after all this time. even if it means a stranger calling you an ass Winking

I dont suck now, cause i dont give a fuck anymore.
fibber Tongue

She took my email and put it in the trash like it deserves to be.
maybe. or maybe she read it and it didn't say what it should've said. again, had you told me about the restraining order, i might've said send the email but it wouldn't have been the dismissive BS initially suggested. it would've been an email of recognition, ownership and forgiveness. it wouldn't have asked for contact, it would've simply been a heart-felt apology.
i'm not saying that she would've responded to the latter. if i received the same email from the scorp 16 years from now, i'm not sure i'd respond. i'd most likely read it and be happy that he's a better person and that he was mature enough to man up and be concerned for me enough to apologize though.
if i had done things that i was ashamed of, i might issue an apology myself in turn. a get together would be doubtful. that part of my life is over...and now, so is any pain and regret...for both of us.

i'm not trying to SHAME you. what i'm trying to get you to do is own each and every aspect of the past...even the parts that make you look like the shit you were. you should feel sorry for assaulting that dude. you seem like an intelligent man. you know that a real man doesn't use his fists or a gun regardless of where you come from. you know that now even though you didn't know it then.
once you recognize ALL of your faults, THAT'S when you can let it all go...
that's when you can say, "i did the best with what i knew at the time and now i know and am better."
that's when you can seek forgiveness and forgive yourself.
seriously, take a look at the 12 steps. it'll help you gain insight because yes, you did need to apologize to her (and the guy you hit). but you also need to forgive yourself. if you recognize all the things you've done wrong, if you vow to never do it again, why haven't you forgiven yourself?
i'll tell you why...you're still blaming them and therein lies YOUR major problem.
wga - i got an example that might help ya...
imagine a person on drugs who is in recovery. they begin evaluating what made them start using in the first place.
maybe it was being molested as a child by an uncle - molestation #1
what if mom and dad didn't save the kid from the dirty uncle. parents #2
what if after the addiction started, fam/friends funded the addict's habit. enabling #3
what if girl/boyfriend was also on drugs. codependence #4
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now a person who really wants to heal, will look at the past and realize that these events fueled his/her addiction. where none of the above was helpful, where their environment and some of the people around them were toxic, they ultimately decided to use and they are ultimately the ones who decides to stop.
#1 - dirty uncle is a shit. confront the bastard, tell him how he fuqd up he is. tell him that you forgive him but will never forget. so no, he is not welcome in your home/around your children and so on... if you even hear of him doing the same to another child, he will have is reckoning now and in the hereafter.
#2/3 - mom, dad, fam, friends made mistakes. explain to them the hurt of the molestation as they may have never been aware. apologize to them for the years of turmoil and pain you caused them. acknowledge that they did the best they could and thank them for never giving up on you. make amends where necessary. if you owe people money, you still owe them money.
#4 - if your gf/bf is still addicted, explain that you can't be around them while you get clean. encourage them from afar to get help. realize, once sober, you two may have nothing in common and that's ok. move on.
in all of the above scenarios, you take responsibility for self. you forgive those who need forgiveness, you ask for forgiveness, you go of the pain/anger and you vow to yourself to be a different, responsible and accountable person moving forward.
OR...
blame dirty uncle for touching you.
blame mom and dad for not saving you.
blame any and everyone for giving you money and a place to lay your head instead of letting you hit rock bottom.
blame gf/bf for using with you.
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for me, you sound like the "OR" type of person. the "OR" addict typically relapses and continues using. so, is it any wonder you've had this on your back for 16 years?
wga - i think you'll be fine...someday. i don't even think you need input from aries chick to be ok. so don't stop working at it/talking about it.
good luck
eh, your friend is a twit.
you were damn near close to her first love at that age. she remembers you. no one said she remembered you fondly.
and carrying a burden for 16 years doesn't make you a fool. plenty of people carry scars from youth well into their adulthood. just be thankful that you're trying to get rid of it all rather carrying it for another 16.
if you hadn't of sent her the email, you would've carried that with you as well. you sent it, she didn't respond. oh well... start the healing process and move on.
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Posted by tubbyscubby
wga - i think you'll be fine...someday. i don't even think you need input from aries chick to be ok. so don't stop working at it/talking about it.
good luck




Aries chick didnt give a fuck. LOL.
Once her heart changed all her feelings for me died.
thats the reality someone has made me see recently. And she also made me see that perhaps our relationship was only special for me and not her.
"She couldnt wait to get rid of you, didnt want anything to do with you any longer, she never looked back....the 'love' you thought you shared belonged to you and only you."
She then said that for a woman/girl to act in such a way it can only mean she wanted OUT a FOR A LONG TIME and didnt know how to tell you---- which kind of made me sad; since all i ever asked was for honesty you know to prepare my heart to let go cause she meant the world to me and God knows that i knew i couldnt force her to love me again, but only a fool wouldnt try.)
She said only "a fool walks around with the memory of the person who hurt them and treated them like garbage 16 years ago, she didnt care about months after she dumped you, what makes you think after 16 years she even thinks of you after the way she ran from you and thats before she changed her phone number! you didnt mean much to her, accept it."
"She had better and more meaningful relationships after you, making it very easy to forget you."
she then asked....
"why dont you hate this girl?"
I said, "I never could."



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The part about her wanting out for a long time and not knowing how to tell you is wrong in my opinion. I think we're very candid about how we feel. It's hard for us to fake interest or hide it when we're not satisfied. It's either hot or it's cold with very little middle ground.
ohhhhhhhhhh lawd. it's not romeo and juliet dude. it's leroi and julie.
i feel sorry for your current girlfriend. she should definitely drop you with a quickness.
Gosh vensuianbull, you say those things like they are bad things?!?!?! What gives?!?!?
LOL I know, I know. Go ahead and flog me. I deserve it. But I still laugh considering I'm Aries cusp, Aries Moon, Merc in Aries.
Posted by seavixen2
"They're not as tall as they say they are..."
^^^ that is hysterical! My Arian guy friend ALWAYS does that! We all know it, too funny


Call me short lightbulb aries.
K...I think some of this is quite true of us. But, I think some of it is more than false and waaayyy over blown.
It's pretty nasty, but I can take it.
And of course it would be an Aries to respond first. It is our board and directed to us, after all. I've not checked out the other board's responses, but I'm guessing the sign it's directed too will be the first ones to post back too. It's only natural...
It kind of reminds me of the Bastard by Sun Sign series...now those were good!
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Hahaha Well I don't know about the rest of my fellow Aries but, for me BEDS are for sleeping. Sex is fun and should be done any where but, the bed! And NO! we don't sleep with just any1 we atleast have to find u atttactive sheesh! And so what if we don't get your name right during sex? Or dont bother to get your last name? If you were special enough I would have asked no? hahaha j/k but seriously what was your name again?
omgsh this is so hilarious, i love when people write negative stuff like this, very entertaining lol
especially about the lie abou our height thing, i do regularily lie about half an inch lmao
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Posted by ArianPride
That's the worst thing I've ever seen someone post on this entire site lol, I hope you are proud of yourself.


You wombat. VB is half Aries.
Posted by starlover
They are bossy and controlling, domineering and egotistical. They think they are right, infallible, untouchable, perfect, fool-proof and terribly cuddly. Tell them they are arrogant and bossy and they won't have a clue what you are talking about. They think they are caring, supportive and kind and thoughtful. That shows you how much out of touch themselves they are

So true of the ones i have known!! Big Grin


But we will be there for you when the chips are down my friend.
You can take that to the bank.
(Just not a Greek bank.)
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Posted by ArianPride
That's the worst thing I've ever seen someone post on this entire site lol, I hope you are proud of yourself.


You wombat. VB is half Aries.

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And damned proud of it.
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Posted by venusianbull
Life is like a gigantic game of chess - they play to win and they play to make you lose.
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Aries in Love
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God but the Aries do like to fall in love. It's something they do at the drop of a hat - or a pair of briefs. They keep their heart in their pants,


I got passion in my pants and I ain't afraid to show it.
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HAHAHHAHA I heart this song.
Posted by venusianbull

They also like to reuse last year's Christmas cards....




I have been known to do thissmile
Posted by venusianbull

In any real risky situation you'll find them leading from the back. Once the excitement and danger is over they will become very vocal about their achievements and success on the field - how very brave they were, and how the whole battle would have been lost if they hadn't saved the day at the last moment,


just like america during world war too
Posted by venusianbull
Arians are independent and hold most people in contempt. They have a quick fiery temper and are impatient and scornful of advice. They can be exceedingly abrupt and blunt. Their arrogance knows no bounds. They think there are only two ways to do anything - their way and the wrong way. They may be right, but they lack diplomatic skills and will win no friends.
They like to think they are brave, that they are great leaders. If they would hold up for long enough to look behind them they would see no one is following. They are vain and big-headed and egotistic and over-confident. Prick their fragile bubbles, though, and they'll cry like babies. They have no staying power, no stamina for a fight, no resistance and no reserves. They are weak and would willingly bribe their way out of any trouble.


just like america now lol
Posted by glassblowing
Also, Leos are bossy but they are popular and admired for it..........'splain that Lucy.


Yessssssss, Please someone explain this ^^^^^^
....this some funny ass shit lol

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