Leo or Aries? Who's the real BOSS!!

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Its is one of astrology's biggest controversy. Who is the true leader is it Aries or is it Leo. Many astrologers and astrology books and other sources seem to have a divided opinion on the leadership qualities of these two signs but who is the real boss.
Here's my take on it:
Both these fire signs have a very distinct sense of leadership between eachother.
Aries shows its leadership qualities in a brash or coarse manner not in a organized way for example:
Scenario#1: Your boat is sinking and you need to follow an evacuation plan. An aries is most likely to be heading it. Or if you are stranded in a forest your aries is most likely leading you.
Leo displays its leadership in a rather organized and a recognizable pattern. For example they are fit for leadership in the way of a king or queen or rather in dictatorial or bosslike position for a big corporation.
This particularly my say. What say?
I'd say Leos make the better leaders because it's easier to keep up with them.
I'd say Aries because they are Cardinal signs.
leos seem to be good at keeping an eye on things and making sure they are going smoothly
aries don't seem to have immediate leadership skils if you ask me. more of a pioneer instead of a leadrer
Aries may be a cardinal sign but their selfish (me-first) attitude is not good for a person in leadership position.
Leos are better leaders in formal arrangements, like in business and what not. Aries are more suitable toward leading small groups, like their little band of rebels, so to speak. They're better at riling up their followers.
I also think Aries make better hero type leaders due to their courage. Aries are the revolutionaries, while Leos tend to keep order.
LEOS... only bc i have a leo rising =) nana ...No but i do think Leo's are better..judging from real life experiences.........so far.
Leos, are better because they will look at the big picture before reacting. they make sure the pool has water before jumping in (of course they are aslo checking the temp so that it just right, a king must alway be comfortable smile ) whereas aries leap first before looking. they are the ones you will find doing cartwheels in the pool with a broken leg because they did not check to make sure the pool was filled.
Cancers we are like the saying goes behind every good man is a great woman. We make great advisers and support system not upfront leaders. this actually a great post for us because we can lead without being forward. we like to guide and make you think it was all your idea. it called passive agressive. our passions also makes us understand our followers.
the worst leader of the zodiac go to my fellow water signs scorps and Pisces. with a scorp leader the entire city will be destroyed because they did not like the citizens disagreeing with them. Pisces will be too busy in lala land to notice any attack.
Aries makes the better leader. They do it for the challenges and the fun. Leos do it to be in the limelight.
haven't read the posts, but my call is aries with leo rising.
"taurus mercury: slow, but persistent and thorough. tends to double check things."
hehehe
Aries I think, they relish in the opportunity of a challenge, and have plenty of stamina to clear the path for, or help pull others along. All the Leo's I new sort of just...Didn't seem into leading for any loving fun at all, just the thought of victory and they don't know that not everybody can be winners. Aries have difficulty knowing that too but at least most are too happy with themselves to generally care much.
I would have to go with Leo's. They are very organized and yes quite bossy but they can also back up their views. At least the Leo's I know and I know a LOT!
Stalin_Dec 18
Castro_Jul 31
Lenin_Apr 22
Napoleon_Aug 15
Hussein_Apr 28
Hitler_Apr 20
Sihanouk_Oct 31
Churchill_Dec 30
De Gaulle_Dec 22
marie Antoinette_Dec 2
Victoria_May 24
Clinton_Aug 19
Ceaser_Jul 12 or 13
you be the judge
ok im a leo so of course im gonna go with myself.I am a natural born leader.I must also add that I have alot of aries gal pals and might I also add that when it comes to making decisions everyone depends on me.Leo's have a FIXED modality so once we start something we finish it to the end.As for aries being a cardinal sign from ny understanding most cardinal signs start things but do not finsh.Aries will want to get the job done as quickly as possible.But a leo will look at the big picture and figure out what needs to be done first second and last.I'd say leo anyone beg to differ?
I wonder the persons sign who started this topic?
I love when people talk about my sign.Whether it be good or bad.Its entertaining!lol
I agree aries are jumping around like a kid in a candy store for the attention, while Leos are telling seating back with a smile popping their collar and telling themselves they are great. of course each sign is hating anyone who says they are horrible and becomming best friends with those who say they are great.
it's either a continual power struggle or understanding on both parts. in any case, neither is the leader.
Well, if those are the two signs you want to choose from that''s fine. However,Scorpio is considered to be the strongest sign of them all. I would say they are the best leaders, just because people naturally follow. People follow them because they are ideal, interesting and the list goes on. They don't even try to lead others, they just appear to do so many things correct , all people seem to follow, in fact people like to. Also they are strong, therefore leadership is forced upon them. I would have to say that Scorpios also have traits of aLL signs which also makes them great leaders.
Leo's are forceful, people follow them because they force people to. They are so determined to be in charge they will almost do anything to gain it, in fact, they take offense when others don't give them the control they seek. In fact, leo's lead to gain control. They like to have a sense of control because it makes them feel good about themselves. There is a difference between being a leader because leadership has been forced upon you, verses seeking leadership because you are seeking power.
Aries can be leaders because they are agressive and a little overbaring. Kind of hard to resist. They come on so strong that people sometimes don't have enough time to think, so they just follow. Aries also likes to seek power and control. I think they are more prone for overbearing others, and walking all over people, more so than being a leader. However people may be subceptiable to following.
boo kris everyone ought to be included.
Message posted by: sagitTAUries on 3/26/2007 8:17:27 PM ip: xxx.xxx.xxx.136
"astrology, it's crap if you look at the information as information.
at best, it's a grainy representation, open for anyone's interpret."
Agreed. There's a million other factors besides someone's sign that determine whether one's a good leader or not. Petty arguement is all it is.
A leader takes people where they want to go. A "great" leader takes people where they OUGHT to BE!
If this sounds like you, then YOU are a LEADER!


First of all no sign is more prone to leadership as these two. Not scorpio. There are reasons for that. Scorpio never wants to lead and they are one of the most subtle. Subtlety is definitely not a trait for a leader. Not that i am saying astrology is true or false because i talk about it just for fun. But Scorpios aren't programmed for leading. It even isn't that people follow them naturally, that's Leo we are talking about they have that royal personality. And Aries is too being discussed because they have the pioneership needed and the initiative as well. No scorpio will never initiate, they stand back and perceieve the action and participate only if they are for it. Aries will jump into anything.
I think neither.
Both Aries and Leo's will destroy each other and others like we Pisces will survive.
*Picks up popcorn and watched how Aries and Leo cuts of each others throats.
Sorry Haffo....you won't ever see this Aries lady cut any Leo's throats - I respect them too much. Infact, I work great with Leo's!
You may need to change the channel and watch another show.....Sad
Oh....Pisces can not survive the Aries wrath...I just finished dealing with one.
I think he is in a corner somewhere eating popcorn Winking
*Draws a red line in the floor.
You Freebird and your Leo's step in through the line.
Let the ones who want to top each other cut their throats.
*Picks porcorn again and rises TV's volume.
"Oh....Pisces can not survive the Aries wrath...I just finished dealing with one. "
Probably this is only your perception.
After all, how can a sign who includes all previous signs NOT survive only 1 element out of 10 in it?
You...Haffo are evil Pisces....us fire signs are peace loving peeps!
No go on with your bad self eatin' all that nasty popcorn! Winking
Hey Kris....meet me on the "red line" smile wanna dance?
Leaders...
Thomas Jefferson - Aries, wrote The Declaration of Independence
Bill Clinton - Leo, wrote "his-story" about Monica
Two leaders both using their heads....just in different ways! Winking
Joesph Campbell - "Follow Your Bliss" Arian
Ok first of all:
"If you were talking about who would win in revenge scorpio would defeat any sign I've taken arie's on and leo's lot's of time's these guy's are easy beat'in."
Not to bash any sign because all signs have their weaknesses but the only time when scorpio can succeed in its offences is if it attacks people on their back when they least suspect and when they have a little chance to fight back. This is a rather cowardly tactic because it doesnt result in an actual confrontation. What fun is it when your opponent cannot give you a challenge. Besides Scoprios make up for it with their undying Loyalty and emotional strength. Leo and Aries are fire signs they fight to let you know who is the enemy and who is friend. Aries' aggressive battlecry and Leos' flamboyant hits are WHAT A REAL BATTLE IS!
Then
"If you were talking about who would win in revenge scorpio would defeat any sign I've taken arie's on and leo's lot's of time's these guy's are easy beat'in."
"Avalan32, what's your sign? or are you just another one to afraid to tell us your sign"
It always seems that people who feel the most insecure and weak are usually the ones who like to attack other people's personalities. You want to know mine and Kris's signs so that you can trash and moan about them. I truly sympathize.Besides since when did dxpers start broadcasting their signs every time they post or on their profile.
Then:
"why did Avalan32 start this debate in the first place. 1, to start trouble 2, because she's a fire sign we all know the love trouble, 3, or because she's some 13 year old little kid who has nothing better to do, you should go out more with your family get some fresh air"
I get a lot of fresh air. Which is why its easy for me to handle this stuff. Also i can clearly tell that you apparently do not understand the entire thread at all because not i was not creating trouble between signs. And i think it should be a hint for you and i am guessing your jealousy that no one else took it that way either. Besides no one forced you to post on this thread anyways, shows how much of a life you have. But youre still cool Mr. Nice.
"I can tell you arie's weakness, failure the same go's for leo these sign's cannot handle it just try saying it to them and they will get mad as hell and it's the best way to wind the up."
No need. Thanks though. But ONLY IF, only if you want to know about scorpio weaknesses. Now don't take this as a diss or anything i only suggesting, you know many narrow-minded people may take it as an offence, its really not. Besides i am guessing we both know we are talking about astrology just for fun. No one knows if its true or not. I dont think so but then again i dont know.
Amazing how every post mr.nice posts is about how powerful and "worlds greatest whatever" he is. And being a cover model of "muscleboysboysboys-love-i wear makeup- rainbow hippies and horces dancing ballet magazine" or whatever doesnt impress anyone. But as with all scorpios, it's all in the mouth. Thery're wussies and it's all psychological warefare. Ignore them, pitty them and wach them go crazy. They're so predictable.
"Avalan32, you still try to avoid my question, like I said before what's your sign because that would explain alot about you and your dumb comment's an kris's to."
Yeah i am way too evolved to answer any of your airheaded questions. You really do not sound like a scorpio as you say you are. TRUST ME I KNOW WHAT SCORPIOS ARE LIKE! You may take it as a hint. You show way too many weaknesses and vulnerabilities to be any one of the signs. Till now i saw you as a good conversationalist but you turned out be just another wimp. Maybe us three MORONS as you say will just wait until you get some growing done. Maybe we just need to brush you aside and carry forth.
Ok so back to Topic!
Aries or Leo?
How would Aries do in a kingship. How would Leo do in team or any kind of informal leadership?
Any takers?
Avalan32
From what I can see, you always brag yourself too high and when it comes to explain what exactly makes you so high, we always end up with nothing. Do I ough to make conclusions here or you will counter this. Therefore, let's start from basics.
MrNice
I think Avalan32 is Leo. Since Kris is also a Leo.
How typical of you shallow people, resorting to the closest thing possible. Never resourceful or original. "I have to be either a leo or an aries because i started this thread" idiots. Pity u guys.
Poor little Mr.Nice. I don't know about the empty feeling in my skull but it sure seems like YOU have an empty feeling between your thighs, don't you. Just Kidding i'm sorry i don't want to be rude. Get a life.
seriously!
I'm definetly not a shallow person. I did not make any conclusions about you, just a reminder and chance to make things right. But apparently you missed that part. You have chosen to attack by calling me idiot.
Now according to this kind behaviour of yours, I return all what you have said to me in twise dose.
how about we all stick to the topic or better yet just to make everyone feel include by dissecting leadership quality. bizarrely Pisces, Aquarius and Gemini will win this since most are leaders in the world.
Mr.Nice your attempts are weak and vain just like you. Your battle is futile and besides its great that you make me the center of your life which apparently seems rather nonexistent. Dont you realize your makin a fool of yourself. Get back on the topic. You are seriously sad. And you are becoming a source of entertainment. Keep droning.
Leo is not more egoistic. Actually Aries is. Leo is doomineering.
So, ego weakness is goes to Aries.
capgirlinlustwithleo what did you mean by "pm him to find out inside leg measurement!!"
Just curious
By the way.
Good perception on the two signs.
Capgirl
They both are emotional. It's the fauture of fire signs. When you say Aries ego is not linked to their emotions, you simply try to ideantify an Air sign. WHich is not. Aries is not an Air sign. You can't put logic over Aries. If there is any sign that lacks logic the most, it's the Aries.
Leo's egoism is fueling their pride. They don't go further than that. They do apply logic on the rest. Leo's can't be more egocentered than Aries.
I have to say as emotional as leos are they don't really show it otwardly they are pretty good at hiding how they feel about you to your face but will trash you when your back is turned. my boss is a leo, so is my brother I have seen it. the best way to catch a leo offguard is to flatter them this sotens them up and then you attack.
as for the cancer scoropio thing I know everyone wants to believe scorps will win but I have dealt with scorps most of my life especially lately and I don't think it would be a clear cut scorp win (speaking of mentally). considering both signs are good at reading people and while scopios are quite secretive so are cancers. scopios will let you know right away they don't like you cancers on the other end will smile in your face while planning to tear out your gut. plus one is hell bent on revenge and the other absolutely hates to lose. not a cleare cut fight as everyone wants to believe.
Mr.Nice youre a cool guy!
No hard feelings towards you.
Every sign has a tendency to hit rock bottom just because some signs are popular for it doesn't mean the other ones don't go through them. Capricorns and scorpios have some of the darkest moods. Scorpio can become quite sad and extremely self-doubting and unsure when the lingering moods take over. Capricorn rivals Virgo in their feelings of insecurities.
Geminian optimism can really hit rockbottom when the sky seems as a limit.
Sagittarian fun and frolic also dampens when things just don't go their way.
Taurus emotions take a dive on the sad side when they lose control of materials, luxury and possesions.
Libran scales take a dip into the waters when things are just too inharmonious.
Aquarian logic can suffer too when the world's too conservative and narrowminded.
Pisces wisdom and go wild if there's too much brutality.
Cancerian sympathy can turn to bitterness when no ones seems to be on their side.
Aries dynamism gets doused with gallons of water when there ideas and approach is left unwelcomed.
Leo too loses its roar once in a while when their pride is left unnoticed.
In all these times each sign loses its self confidence. Its not just gems and virgos. Especially not them.
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