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What I dislike the most is honestly the drivers here in the US. I'm sure it's a known thing in Europe of how bad divers are here, and I truly feel bad for you. Not only are you now driving on the wrong side of the rode, but people drive like they are on crack here. Keep in mind the speed limit is just a suggestion, and 80% of people are likely experiencing road rage at any give time. I mean I live here and literally do a prayer before I even leave my driveway. It's that bad.
Posted by nanochip
The cons vastly outweigh the pros if you have any amount of exposure to the outside world
Hates: capitalism, gun violence, poor education system, unhealthy food/life style , religious fanaticism and idolatry, flip flopping on human rights, lack of every day technology to make life easier and more safe/pleasant. Also to add to an insufficient education system, is a corrupt education system - where else in the world are entire generations completely financially fucked over for decades for going to college? Corrupt government in general - politicians donāt want a better life for the people here.
Likes: my salary, easy access to home ownership, opportunities for financial independence/building credit - just earning potential in general, good food
Just wanna add that low cost of living is not a benefit or perk when the low cost of living is a symptom of the area. Who cares if your town has low cost of living if itās unsafe, everythingās dirty, the food is disgusting, hard drugs are rampant, violent crime, gun violence, robbery, rape, and murder happening where you are every day. Itās not fucking worth it. I would much rather pay a lot more for nice weather, beautiful landscape aesthetics, and a safe, clean community (Australia)
Lived all over the US but Iām in Ohio right now
Education across the 5 main western countries is tightly rockerfellered. Look at how they've reset us all since the 1800s.
The next reset is due in 3... 2...
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by MyStarsShine
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
Likes:
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.click to expand
Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.
Posted by BadderBunnyPosted by MyStarsShine
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
Which State do you live in?
Please feel free to rant, praise or otherwise
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I like the opportunities in the US. I hate the political landscape, particularly post-Trump with all the racists feeling emboldened.
I live in Virginia. I moved from Southeastern Virginia to Northern Virginia for the money. I hate it here. I tried to give it time, but after more than 5 yrs I still hate it here. The pandemic set my relocation back, but I made the most of it by returning to grad school. But now that I am finishing up school I will be looking for greener pastures again, because money isnt everything. Skipping the red states though because I want to keep my freedoms.click to expand
What sort of freedoms are you trying to keep that wouldn't be available in a red state?
Posted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.click to expand
In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?
Posted by BadderBunnyPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by BadderBunnyPosted by MyStarsShine
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
Which State do you live in?
Please feel free to rant, praise or otherwise
š
I like the opportunities in the US. I hate the political landscape, particularly post-Trump with all the racists feeling emboldened.
I live in Virginia. I moved from Southeastern Virginia to Northern Virginia for the money. I hate it here. I tried to give it time, but after more than 5 yrs I still hate it here. The pandemic set my relocation back, but I made the most of it by returning to grad school. But now that I am finishing up school I will be looking for greener pastures again, because money isnt everything. Skipping the red states though because I want to keep my freedoms.
What sort of freedoms are you trying to keep that wouldn't be available in a red state?
Freedom to make decisions about my body as a woman for one. Plus the ability to attend schools and universities that dont teach information hand picked by the governor to sanitize history..cough...Florida.click to expand
Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional as it overstepped the Tenth Amendment, which delegates the powers not enumerated to the Federal government under the US Constitution to the states. It is up to each state to decide how they want to rule and govern themselves. Given that, why would the taxpayer have to be forced to subsidize someone else's body, if we're going with "my body" argument? And at the same time, once Conception takes place, you are already carrying another human life (this is straight textbook Embryology btw).
https://www.princeton.edu/~prolife/articles/embryoquotes2.html
Posted by ArgusPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.
In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?click to expand
Albeit, not a perfect system (no economic system is and no economic system will be able to phase out poverty, but only minimize it) since it has some flaws and shortcomings, Capitalism has single-handedly lifted the majority of humanity out of poverty through the entire history of mankind. That's no easy feat to begin with and it has happened, in less than 200 years.
Posted by BadderBunnyPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
click to expand
Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.
This post tells me all I need to know lol.click to expand
Let's discuss the facts then.
Posted by ArgusPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspFinally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.Posted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?click to expand
Maybe listen to this speech by Javier Milei. The speech gets a little dry, but the guy speaks both from a grounded education in economics, and from practical experience having grown up in Argentina (which in the early 1900s was a very affluent country, throughout the rest of the century contending with the wonders of socialism). I hope he can right that nation.
Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShineToo many!! But still Iād rather have the right to protect myself. More people around here die from drug overdoses than gun related deaths & a lot of people carry for protection. Seems to actually make it safer. It is a rural area not a big city though.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI wonder how many unhinged people gain access to firearms illegally? š¬Posted by MyStarsShineThere is a dirty little secret to the gun violence statistics that if brought up, I suspect would trigger the cognitive dissonance of a good number of posters on this site. But if you separate that factor from the statistics, the per capita rate of violence falls into a percentage of that of most European countries. That's one of the factors I noted in my dislike earlier--we can't properly address issues because people aren't willing to be honest, or admit they're wrong.
āAs of Dec. 7, at least 40,167 people have died from gun violence in the U.S. this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive ā which is an average of almost 118 deaths each dayā
BTW, if the news of the Super Bowl rally for Kansas City reached your media--did it note that the main shooter obtained the gun he used illegally? That hasn't been widely reported.
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Sounds like a very nerve wracking way to live š„¹
Not really. I have never had an issue with guns. The attention should be on mental health in my viewpoint.
Mental health and guns are a frightening combination
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Yes that is the big issue that isnāt being addressed. Guns require responsibility.click to expand
It's also poverty, probably more so. Poverty Is worse for mental health than anything. You look at all the gun violence stats they all point to poor places. You have an environment where people will risk getting shot to go and steal something because they need to sell it to buy food or drugs or whatever. Most gun violence isn't some insane middle class dude shooting up a school like the media will have you believe it's poor people who are desperate.
Posted by Walk_on_byPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShineToo many!! But still Iād rather have the right to protect myself. More people around here die from drug overdoses than gun related deaths & a lot of people carry for protection. Seems to actually make it safer. It is a rural area not a big city though.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI wonder how many unhinged people gain access to firearms illegally? š¬Posted by MyStarsShineThere is a dirty little secret to the gun violence statistics that if brought up, I suspect would trigger the cognitive dissonance of a good number of posters on this site. But if you separate that factor from the statistics, the per capita rate of violence falls into a percentage of that of most European countries. That's one of the factors I noted in my dislike earlier--we can't properly address issues because people aren't willing to be honest, or admit they're wrong.
āAs of Dec. 7, at least 40,167 people have died from gun violence in the U.S. this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive ā which is an average of almost 118 deaths each dayā
BTW, if the news of the Super Bowl rally for Kansas City reached your media--did it note that the main shooter obtained the gun he used illegally? That hasn't been widely reported.
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Sounds like a very nerve wracking way to live š„¹
Not really. I have never had an issue with guns. The attention should be on mental health in my viewpoint.
Mental health and guns are a frightening combination
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Yes that is the big issue that isnāt being addressed. Guns require responsibility.
It's also poverty, probably more so. Poverty Is worse for mental health than anything. You look at all the gun violence stats they all point to poor places. You have an environment where people will risk getting shot to go and steal something because they need to sell it to buy food or drugs or whatever. Most gun violence isn't some insane middle class dude shooting up a school like the media will have you believe it's poor people who are desperate.click to expand
Agreed, but poverty and drug related. A lot of it is drug related in this area. Some drug deals but mostly people stealing to get more drugs and food. Breaking into the middle class area houses, so homeowners wanting guns to protect themselves and their property.
Posted by BumboklaatPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by Walk_on_byPosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShineYes that is the big issue that isnāt being addressed. Guns require responsibility.Posted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShinePosted by PuzzlePiecesPosted by MyStarsShineToo many!! But still Iād rather have the right to protect myself. More people around here die from drug overdoses than gun related deaths & a lot of people carry for protection. Seems to actually make it safer. It is a rural area not a big city though.Posted by CancerOnTheCuspI wonder how many unhinged people gain access to firearms illegally? š¬Posted by MyStarsShineThere is a dirty little secret to the gun violence statistics that if brought up, I suspect would trigger the cognitive dissonance of a good number of posters on this site. But if you separate that factor from the statistics, the per capita rate of violence falls into a percentage of that of most European countries. That's one of the factors I noted in my dislike earlier--we can't properly address issues because people aren't willing to be honest, or admit they're wrong.
āAs of Dec. 7, at least 40,167 people have died from gun violence in the U.S. this year, according to the Gun Violence Archive ā which is an average of almost 118 deaths each dayā
BTW, if the news of the Super Bowl rally for Kansas City reached your media--did it note that the main shooter obtained the gun he used illegally? That hasn't been widely reported.
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Sounds like a very nerve wracking way to live š„¹
Not really. I have never had an issue with guns. The attention should be on mental health in my viewpoint.
Mental health and guns are a frightening combination
click to expand
It's also poverty, probably more so. Poverty Is worse for mental health than anything. You look at all the gun violence stats they all point to poor places. You have an environment where people will risk getting shot to go and steal something because they need to sell it to buy food or drugs or whatever. Most gun violence isn't some insane middle class dude shooting up a school like the media will have you believe it's poor people who are desperate.
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Agreed, but poverty and drug related. A lot of it is drug related in this area. Some drug deals but mostly people stealing to get more drugs and food. Breaking into the middle class area houses, so homeowners wanting guns to protect themselves and their property.
After living in the PNW and befriending locals for a while now I can totally see the causes for many of these issues.
The PNW is a real Western (region) society without all the attention and interference from Eastern U.S. culture and globalism (except maybe Seattle) Places like most of California, Arizona and Nevada have all the political BS and investment and industrialization that turned the area intoa New New Jersey.
That being said, the old tree logging and blue collar jobs in the PNW are dwindling and the locals have been largely neglected by their elders and leadership is lacking. These people have no purpose or connection to any other region. Kind of isolated.
I can totally see why drug use is rampant here, people are tame AF, and their way of life has been abruptly taken from them. Ironically kinda what happened to the Native Americans is now happening to the majority of locals of Irish ancestry.
It's kind of a place stuck in time. Which is why I like it.
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It is true. A lot of people have struggled. The job situation isnāt good unless youāre in the medical field, there are few professional type jobs but they do exist. Itās far away from a big city. Most people become self-employed & some do well, some survive. Iāve lived here since 2006, took a massive pay cut but a better place to raise kids. Itās gorgeous in nature, and a more peaceful place to be. I have doubled my pay in the last ten years though after a lot of hard work in a professional field, so it is possible to do alright you just have to have motivation. Iām still a Socal kid, but this area has a certain charm too. Like you said stuck in time. Some areas a little bit of the Wild West in the more rural areas. It has a reputation of being Progressive but actually the majority of the state is not. Itās an interesting dynamic. Some of the politics has added to the drug problems, but also those same politics ignoring the area.. we are kinda on our own. Guns yes, for our protection. That is very common & more so than what I was brought up around in Southern California. But for people who know what they are doing, some hunting for food not sport. Itās actually similar in very Northern California as Southern Oregon. At one point there was an attempt to make another state, the state of Jefferson. People still identify more with that state that never was& most of Eastern Oregon would like to be joined with Idaho. An interesting area for sure.
Posted by MercurialVaporPosted by ArgusPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.
In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?
Albeit, not a perfect system (no economic system is and no economic system will be able to phase out poverty, but only minimize it) since it has some flaws and shortcomings, Capitalism has single-handedly lifted the majority of humanity out of poverty through the entire history of mankind. That's no easy feat to begin with and it has happened, in less than 200 years.click to expand
There is so much to unpack in a such seemingly simple satement, which is why I've deliberated whether or not I should respond. I'd be, however, remiss if I didn't touch on few glaring points. I'll try my best to be as succinct as possible since I do not wish to derail this thread.
I'll start by asking as to what you might consider middle class? Those with enough purchasing power to buy a house, a car, have some saving and a retirement fund? If so, US isn't the exception nor is capitalism in a sense it seem to be suggest it is.
Additionally, and this is a part that trully tickles my funny bone, is that a great deal of those who are staunch supporters of capitalism, completely and conveniently forget about the history of the US and its inception! The massive wealth accrued over several hundred years by expulsion of native people, land grab and it's resources and of course, in no small part thanks to free labour. But that's not where it stops is it now? Come 20th century, such practices only expanded on a global scale to this very day which actually renders US a expolatative imperial oligacy when one really thinks abut it.
It is estimated that the North net, in 2015 alone, appropriated extraordinary aggregate of resources world wide (mainly the global south) in the amount that it could easily end world hunger 70 times over.
But more to the point of middle class you mentioned... I ask again, what middle class as in which demographic? The only time in history of the US where one could argue there truly was a middle class was the 50s & 60s ( maybe early 70s) and it applied primarily to a certain demographic. But even that was made possible with help of social program (G.I Bill) that congrass passed shortly after WWII. Any meaningful economic upward mobility was in fact made possible thanks to social programs put in place over the years. So no, the wealth and the emergence of the middle class in the US did not just happen in the ether of capitalism.
Many like to use GDP as a measure of individual monetary standing yet what the equation fails to do is account for a massive wealth discrepancy. And the gap is only getting bigger! What of 44000-98000 hospitalized patients who die from preventable diseases? What of our crumbling infrastructure...
I better stop myself here because I could literally write a dissertation but I will conclude by saying that I do agree with you on the fact that there is no perfect economic systhem. That said, I do not see a reason why, in the 21st century, citizens of this country shouldn't expected better. Better from our government, each other and humanity at large?
Posted by CancerOnTheCuspPosted by ArgusPosted by MercurialVaporPosted by CancerOnTheCuspFinally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.Posted by MyStarsShineLikes:
For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?
Maybe listen to this speech by Javier Milei. The speech gets a little dry, but the guy speaks both from a grounded education in economics, and from practical experience having grown up in Argentina (which in the early 1900s was a very affluent country, throughout the rest of the century contending with the wonders of socialism). I hope he can right that nation.
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The same guy who labeled climate change "a socialist lie!?". Kay!
Curious how bolivar lost its value over night as soon as he got elected! Growing pains though, right? Even more curious is his plan to ditch bolivar in favor of the USD specially in light of BRICS having recently accepted SA & UAE into their midst. I wouldn't be surprised if Argentina once again fell into the same old petrostate trap its has long suffered regardless of its economic system.
As far as the 1900s goes, we'll, my earlier post to MercurialVapor applies here if one can be bothered reading it.
But yeah, I listened to Milei as I do a whole bunch people.
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For anyone living in the USA, tell me what you like about living there and what you donāt like?
A lot of beautiful places which are potentially accessible
Unique in the way the country was founded --with some thanks to common law tradition and Enlightenment thinking--which allowed a large thriving middle class which has been historically anomalous (see more in dislikes related to this)
A Constitution with a Bill of Rights and associated freedoms(see more in dislikes related to this)
Still a land of opportunity if one is willing to put in the honest work to make it happen
Dislikes (well really one big one with a whole lot of subfactors):
When you hear someone use the pejorative "first world problems", the US is the poster child. We've had it so good for so long, due to the industry and creativity of generations before us, that there is a large number of historically ignorant retards and ingrates that have been insulated from suffering the consequences of the bad decisions they make, enabled by smooth talking shysters who manipulate those idiots for their own ends, and as a consequence innocent parties also suffer. We've become way too tolerant of it.
Example (about the time you really started seeing the trend):
30 years ago, a woman sued McDonalds claiming injury because the coffee she spilled on herself was "too hot". There was a time where there the reponse would be "hey dumbass, don't spill coffee on yourself", or more charitably, "that's unfortunate. We can help with rhe medical bills, but accidents happen". There's more to the story, but the gist is that was when the door opened to catering to the terminally stupid.
Or another example:
'Activist', usually egged on by some corrupt asshole who has a grift/agenda in the works behind the scenes: "we need to get rid of all fossil fuels right now."
Questioner: "How are the trucks going to deliver food"
'Activist': "we don't need trucks. We can just go to the store and buy the food"
The two examples are where the US has the capacity to handle the stupidity based on the bounty built by others. The problem is, the idiots are growing while eating the proverbial seed corn. And to compound it (for now) the idiots think they won't be affected. And will be the first to whine/cry/loot/lie/steal when they eventually are, too clueless to realize what they have lost. And unfortunately, pull everyone else down with them.
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Finally.... It's refreshing to see someone with an informed and valid opinion and that understands the greatness of this country.... Rather than the idiots here that don't understand a single thing about Capitalism.
In your opinion, what is so great about capitalism?
Albeit, not a perfect system (no economic system is and no economic system will be able to phase out poverty, but only minimize it) since it has some flaws and shortcomings, Capitalism has single-handedly lifted the majority of humanity out of poverty through the entire history of mankind. That's no easy feat to begin with and it has happened, in less than 200 years.
There is so much to unpack in a such seemingly simple satement, which is why I've deliberated whether or not I should respond. I'd be, however, remiss if I didn't touch on few glaring points. I'll try my best to be as succinct as possible since I do not wish to derail this thread.
I'll start by asking as to what you might consider middle class? Those with enough purchasing power to buy a house, a car, have some saving and a retirement fund? If so, US isn't the exception nor is capitalism in a sense it seem to be suggest it is.
Additionally, and this is a part that trully tickles my funny bone, is that a great deal of those who are staunch supporters of capitalism, completely and conveniently forget about the history of the US and its inception! The massive wealth accrued over several hundred years by expulsion of native people, land grab and it's resources and of course, in no small part thanks to free labour. But that's not where it stops is it now? Come 20th century, such practices only expanded on a global scale to this very day which actually renders US a expolatative imperial oligacy when one really thinks abut it.
It is estimated that the North net, in 2015 alone, appropriated extraordinary aggregate of resources world wide (mainly the global south) in the amount that it could easily end world hunger 70 times over.
But more to the point of middle class you mentioned... I ask again, what middle class as in which demographic? The only time in history of the US where one could argue there truly was a middle class was the 50s & 60s ( maybe early 70s) and it applied primarily to a certain demographic. But even that was made possible with help of social program (G.I Bill) that congrass passed shortly after WWII. Any meaningful economic upward mobility was in fact made possible thanks to social programs put in place over the years. So no, the wealth and the emergence of the middle class in the US did not just happen in the ether of capitalism.
Many like to use GDP as a measure of individual monetary standing yet what the equation fails to do is account for a massive wealth discrepancy. And the gap is only getting bigger! What of 44000-98000 hospitalized patients who die from preventable diseases? What of our crumbling infrastructure...
I better stop myself here because I could literally write a dissertation but I will conclude by saying that I do agree with you on the fact that there is no perfect economic systhem. That said, I do not see a reason why, in the 21st century, citizens of this country shouldn't expected better. Better from our government, each other and humanity at large?click to expand
Let me start with a few simple question.
What do you think Capitalism is?
How do you define it?
How does government generate money?
What kind of economic system do you think the US has? (Hint: it isn't Capitalism)
There was no mention of middle class anywhere in my post. In reality it's a subjective term that can mean almost anything depending on who is setting up the parameters. Middle class isn't a barometer of how the economy is performing in general. GDP can give you a better idea of things but a better measure is purchasing power of the dollar, which has diminished over time and hence why things are less affordable. What do you think caused the loss of purchase power?
You attribute social programs such as GI bills as reasons that generated all that wealth, yet nowadays we have one of the most college educated populations in an entire era and yet they're asking for student loan forgiveness and are waiting tables for a living....Why? Because of Capitalism?
Housing, healthcare, etc used to be affordable on one household salary, what do you think caused the increase? All these things have sky-rocketed due to government intervention. Every time government subsidizes a home, a degree, healthcare, etc they increase demand on a dwindling supply. If you had 10 houses in the market for sale and 3 buyers, laws of demand and supply dictate that those houses are going to be cheaper due to competition. Now throw all sorts of government loans (where do you think those loans come from? How do you think government makes money?). So due to government trying to make something "affordable" you introduced 7 buyers in the market now, what do you think that does to the price of the homes? What about the price of tuition? See where this is going?
What does Capitalism have to do with bad actors? If people were stealing or enslaving others, it has nothing to do with it. I don't recall reading any book on Capitalism endorsing those things. In reality, Chattel Slavery kept the South poor and industrially behind the North. On the same breath, what do you think was the factor that propelled the North forward and left the South behind?
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@MercurialVapor
Yes! I know it is not! I said as much in my post above, so thank you for reaffirming my observations! That being said, one does wonder why you decided to praise capitalism in the framework of the United States?! Rhetorical question of course since I intend to follow through on my earlier resolution & not to get into a debate. But I appreciate your reply just the same!
What kind of economic system do you think the US has? (Hint: it isn't Capitalism)
Yes! I know it is not! I said as much in my post above, so thank you for reaffirming my observations! That being said, one does wonder why you decided to praise capitalism in the framework of the United States?! Rhetorical question of course since I intend to follow through on my earlier resolution & not to get into a debate. But I appreciate your reply just the same!
America is a country where you are constantly running without realizing it.
We chased the Natives into resorts.
Now, Whites run away from the colored people and poor people. "Run away" into few places (resorts like).
Those resorts are now $ 30,000 in taxes per year in order to keep away the people you ran away from.
We are running away to get:
"better job"
"bigger home"
"less taxes"
"better school system"
"more space"
"different people" - most common running reason
"leave my life alone politics"
"etc"
You know why we are always looking for the things above? Because those things don't exist where WE ARE RIGHT NOW. It's a constant chase. We did not have a president that did anything for the country since Eisenhower. It's a nightmare for people born here, but a paradise for those invading from third world countries.
If you are not careful this place using that "chase" will take all your: energy, life, youth, money. It's an extremely well engineered Feudalistic system. People that aligned 4 oldest cities in the country with Stonehenge were never stupid.
We chased the Natives into resorts.
Now, Whites run away from the colored people and poor people. "Run away" into few places (resorts like).
Those resorts are now $ 30,000 in taxes per year in order to keep away the people you ran away from.
We are running away to get:
"better job"
"bigger home"
"less taxes"
"better school system"
"more space"
"different people" - most common running reason
"leave my life alone politics"
"etc"
You know why we are always looking for the things above? Because those things don't exist where WE ARE RIGHT NOW. It's a constant chase. We did not have a president that did anything for the country since Eisenhower. It's a nightmare for people born here, but a paradise for those invading from third world countries.
If you are not careful this place using that "chase" will take all your: energy, life, youth, money. It's an extremely well engineered Feudalistic system. People that aligned 4 oldest cities in the country with Stonehenge were never stupid.
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