Are you a Socialist?
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Given the sweeping interest that many young people have in Socialism, do you identify with Socialist politics?
I ask because of the polls and documents out there indicating that a large number of young people prefer Socialist policies over free and open markets.
Discuss.
Given the sweeping interest that many young people have in Socialism, do you identify with Socialist politics?
I ask because of the polls and documents out there indicating that a large number of young people prefer Socialist policies over free and open markets.
Discuss.
Half of the country is already funded by "socialist" ideas
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
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Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.click to expand
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?click to expand
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
Posted by EffortlessSo... socialism?Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Posted by _DazedShhhh ...... don’t use your brain, you know no one likes you for your brain 🧠 🍆 💦Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?click to expand
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Posted by Effortless
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
I like this gif
Posted by ItsSupes2So.. let's say Medicare for all is voted in by the people. Is that socialist health care?Posted by _DazedHardly. Those bills passed to “allot” taxpayer monies are voted on by the people, not the govt.Posted by EffortlessSo... socialism?Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
Posted by Romz-Dickmatism?
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Posted by ItsSupes2Can you explain? I don't really understand 401k as it is even though I contribute to mine.
I don’t think 90% of people actually know what socialism actually entails. I bet if they were told that they’d no longer have a 401k with socialism, they’d run from it
Posted by ItsSupes2The people vote for their reps. The same reps that passed legislation to pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc.Posted by _DazedThat’s not the people. That’s government passing laws that the people didn’t vote on, government officials did.Posted by ItsSupes2So.. let's say Medicare for all is voted in by the people. Is that socialist health care?Posted by _DazedHardly. Those bills passed to “allot” taxpayer monies are voted on by the people, not the govt.Posted by EffortlessSo... socialism?Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
Posted by ItsSupes2There is in a democratic socialist government with a capitalist economy.Posted by _DazedWith socialism, there is no stock market to invest inPosted by ItsSupes2Can you explain? I don't really understand 401k as it is even though I contribute to mine.
I don’t think 90% of people actually know what socialism actually entails. I bet if they were told that they’d no longer have a 401k with socialism, they’d run from itclick to expand
Posted by DrinkWaterNobody is wanting all corps under government control though. Who wants that?Posted by _DazedThat isn't socialism, thats just good government policies looking after its people but inside a capitalist system (liberal policies). In some countrys there are still private company's doing the work, making profit off the job, on tax payer dollars. Socialism would be if all of the private corporations fell into government ownership, and people are no longer working for themselves, they are working for government. Its not really a good system, people don't want to work for no returns or to have their returns given to the reigns of the government to do as they please. The government is always corrupt, wtf would we give them more power over us than they already have.Posted by EffortlessSo... socialism?Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.
Btw the current capitalist model is just as bad, basically giving rich corporations the same power that communism gives the government. At least there is an opportunity to work your way up in this model.click to expand
Imma leave this thread until someone can tell me the difference between Socialism and A Democratic socialist.
Posted by EffortlessPosted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.click to expand
Reinforcing my earlier observation! To simplify a somewhat complex subject matter...while all ducks are birds; not all birds are ducks!
With that said, if one insist on claiming that capitalism has no blood on its hands, you are gravely misguided!
Posted by Romz-Capitalism!?
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxism
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Posted by BoringPosted by EffortlessIf you give Venezuela as a defining example of socialism, you neither understand socialism, nor what happened in Venezuela.
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.click to expand
Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsHow you figure capitalism hasn't?
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.
Posted by ArgusFeminismPosted by Romz-Capitalism!?
I don’t believe in isms.
Socialism
Communism
Racism
Exerciseism
Dietism
Vegetableism
Taxismclick to expand
Posted by enfant_terribleAren't you from a failed socialist state originally?Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsHow you figure capitalism hasn't?
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessSure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Posted by TheRabbitAgain???
I love how they left out Gen X completely.
Posted by EffortlessYou are confusing socialism with nationalism.Posted by enfant_terribleAren't you from a failed socialist state originally?Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsHow you figure capitalism hasn't?
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.click to expand
Posted by enfant_terribleNope.Posted by EffortlessYou are confusing socialism with nationalism.Posted by enfant_terribleAren't you from a failed socialist state originally?Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsHow you figure capitalism hasn't?
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.click to expand
Answer the question, dickhead.
Posted by EffortlessThat's what Dazed was trying to say. Money goes to the state coffers via taxation, which is then used to maintain the country's infrastructure. Socialism at its very basic.Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
Posted by Ram416Eh, you are calling a golf ball a tennis ball here.Posted by EffortlessThat's what Dazed was trying to say. Money goes to the state coffers via taxation, which is then used to maintain the country's infrastructure. Socialism at its very basic.Posted by _DazedPeople who work for a living have to keep the tax money flowing to the government coffers.Posted by EffortlessWho pays for roads? EMS? LEO? Firefighters?Posted by ArgusSocialism is to Communism as Bud Light is to Budweiser.
What blows my mind is this pervasive,irrational fear in the minds of many Americans who have been brainwashed enough to equate socialism with communism. Most developed countries in the west have some form of socialism to varies degrees.
So before you start spewing your ignorance and at hominem attacks which arose from said ignorance, do educate yourself on that matter.
It's the less violent version of the same platform.
Surely you don't think private entities keep them afloat?
It is the taxpayer who finances all of that, professor.click to expand
Taxation goes back centuries.
I define a government's inclinations toward socialism based on the number of programs it provides to the governed.
ACA is Europe's Socialist Medicine program, and it's bad medicine.
The more involved the US taxpayer's money becomes entangled in needless government spending (waste), the more likely it will be a socialist state.
We aren't quite at the bad levels that Europe is in for socialist programs and the massive debts that come with it, but we are inching our way there (sadly).
Posted by LadyNeptuneThe USA is trying to overturn Maduro and his Socialist regime.Posted by EffortlessSure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.click to expand
Before the Venezuelans suffered through Maduro, they had all kinds of Socialist wackos like Chavez ruling over them.
Before Socialism, Venezuela was a flourishing economic power which used natural resources to bolster their economy.
You should educate yourself on what Venezuela was like before the Socialists took over.
Posted by enfant_terribleI find it very hilarious when people point out how socialism has failed, while completely ignoring the various ways capitalism has failed or is failing.Posted by AnotherTaurusGuyReturnsHow you figure capitalism hasn't?
P.S. Socialism has failed every time it has been tried.click to expand
I think a lot of people don't seem to understand that while a system may seem to work on its own in theory, it cannot work in isolation, in practice.
Posted by TheRabbitHe says he is. Is he not as far as his policies go?Posted by _DazedIs Sanders a Democratic Socialist?
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?click to expand
True or false?
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
Posted by _DazedFalse, and history proves it.
True or false?
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.
Posted by TheRabbitThank you. I will research furtherPosted by _DazedHe is not. And what you are describing is not Democratic Socialism either.Posted by TheRabbitHe says he is. Is he not as far as his policies go?Posted by _DazedIs Sanders a Democratic Socialist?
Anyone? OP? Supes?
Difference between Socialism and Democratic Socialism?
Sanders is a social democrat and that is what you are describing as well.
Social democracy strives to improve upon, and make up for the failings of, capitalism.
Democratic Socialism still believes in government ownership of the means of production.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessSo without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?Posted by _DazedFalse, and history proves it.
True or false?
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessShe's not running
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
Posted by TheRabbitCan I ask you this?
Somewhere, the actual, classical definition of Democratic Socialism was mixed up with social democracy.
I'm not sure if it's purposeful or not.
Do you want a check on capitalism in general? As it pertains to the rich basically governing the country.
What is that called?
Posted by _DazedThe state governments are responsible for that.Posted by EffortlessSo without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?Posted by _DazedFalse, and history proves it.
True or false?
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.click to expand
In Florida, there is no state income tax on area residents since tourism and other similar businesses generate enough tax revenue to sustain what you described.
In other states, they choose to tax their citizens to pay for stuff.
If socialists had their way in Florida (like they nearly did with Gillum trying to become governor), there would be new state income taxes in Florida (and ultimately piss everyone with a brain off).
Posted by _DazedThe hell she isn't.Posted by EffortlessShe's not running
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?click to expand
She is being quiet about it, but it's going to happen.
Posted by TheRabbit🤣Posted by _DazedOnce she murders everyone else, she'll be the only one left.Posted by EffortlessShe's not running
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?click to expand
Common. The McDougals aren't dead.
Posted by EffortlessYet Florida is a blue state...Posted by _DazedThe state governments are responsible for that.Posted by EffortlessSo without socialist.. how do we pay for roads, EMS, LEO, etc?Posted by _DazedFalse, and history proves it.
True or false?
The USA was founded as a Constitutional Republic. The only thing the US government is technically supposed to finance through the taxpayer is the military.
However, over the years the US Constitution has been "adjusted" by socialists to make the taxpayers finance even more government programs than the Founding Fathers originally intended.
Without the socialists, the US would probably be even more successful economically.
In Florida, there is no state income tax on area residents since tourism and other similar businesses generate enough tax revenue to sustain what you described.
In other states, they choose to tax their citizens to pay for stuff.
If socialists had their way in Florida (like they nearly did with Gillum trying to become governor), there would be new state income taxes in Florida (and ultimately piss everyone with a brain off).click to expand
Interesting analysis
Posted by _DazedPosted by TheRabbit🤣Posted by _DazedOnce she murders everyone else, she'll be the only one left.Posted by EffortlessShe's not running
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
Common. The McDougals aren't dead.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessLet's make a betPosted by _DazedThe hell she isn't.Posted by EffortlessShe's not running
You clowns realize that Hillary Clinton is going to steal the nomination from Sanders again, right?
She is being quiet about it, but it's going to happen.click to expand
Posted by EffortlessTalk to an actual Venezuelan. Or justPosted by LadyNeptuneThe USA is trying to overturn Maduro and his Socialist regime.Posted by EffortlessSure. Let’s just completely ignore the US’s role in Venezuela all together. It’s ‘socialisms’ fault.
I just wish the Socialist Justice Wackos would pay attention to what is happening in Venezuela.
The people there are literally breaking into the nation's zoos, chasing down and attacking the animals, and taking them home for dinner.
Socialism is a failure when one sees people chopping up Flamingos from the zoo to eat.
Before the Venezuelans suffered through Maduro, they had all kinds of Socialist wackos like Chavez ruling over them.
Before Socialism, Venezuela was a flourishing economic power which used natural resources to bolster their economy.
You should educate yourself on what Venezuela was like before the Socialists took over.click to expand
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