Why do Pisces people enjoy watching others suffer?

This topic was created in the Pisces forum by virgoheart on Saturday, March 22, 2008 and has 139 replies.
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Inquiring Virgo here! Please don't get offended, just wondering: What's up with you so-called "sensitive" Pisces? You are only sensitive to yourselves. I have seen many of you take pleasure in others' suffering! And you are so stubborn! Soft on the outside, but hard as a rock on the inside. Opposite of Virgo, hard on the outside but soft and mushy on the inside!
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"I have seen many of you take pleasure in others' suffering!"
As I also have seen with some Virgo's and Scorps and Aquas and Aries and Leos and......



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I'm sorry you've had a bad experience with some Pisces VH, but this isn't a trait specific to Pisces alone.
Such is human nature I'm afraid, some people are just like that.
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Thanks DC. smile
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DCVirgs: Have a drink on me! Glad to hear someone else feels this way.....
Thetis: Thanks for not bashing me! I just think Pisces people take it to another level....the darkest, most evil and inhumane level possible. It scares the **** out of me! I always protect myself against Pisces people....you never now what is lurking behind their sweet, kind and sensitive exterior....I have never experienced such a lack of sensitivity before....please explain....
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"I have never experienced such a lack of sensitivity before....please explain...."
I don't think I can lol, sounds to me like the people you know are just real assholes. Pisces don't really go looking for revenge if we've been hurt etc. we tend to just swim away.
What exactly is it these people have done to you to make you so afraid of them?
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"Thetis: Thanks for not bashing me! I just think Pisces people take it to another level....the darkest, most evil and inhumane level possible."
Yeah? You watched them ritually butchering other human beings? Raping children? Or are you just a huge fucking drama-queen?
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DCVirgs was right....no substantial answers....
I've watched them ruthlessly manipulate and abuse people on an emotional level....my friend, a cancer, just quit her job because her Pisces doctor boss was verbally abusive to the employees....i worked for a pisces boss who couldn't keep an employee for long because of his manipulating, lying, secretive, degenerate behavior....cowardly to be honest! I also have a Pisces cousin who was calling her bf ex-wife just to emotionally abuse her....the girl wasn't even doing anything to her....she just didn't like her because she's the ex-wife...when I asked my cousin why she was doing that if the girl hadn't done anything to her, she just grinned and chuckled....evil doesn't only exist when you butcher someone....
I guess emotional torture and suffering is OK to inflict upon others in your eyes....
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Okay, a wild guess here, seeing as the Pisces I know are sweet.
I think when they get bored intellectually or emotionally, they might lash out out of sheer boredom. Pisces are usually very intelligent, but maybe in a way others don't understand.
Or, when they feel the world doesn't understand them ::sob, sob::
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Huge drama-queen it is, then.
"DCVirgs was right....no substantial answers...."
How very odd, you made a post asserting that people born between February 19 and March 20 are evil, without explaining yourself, and you got no substantial responses. I mean, a poignant question such as "What's up with you?" seems to demand deep, complex delving into the human psyche.
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Maybe sweet on the outside, but sour on the inside...
Lashing out out of sheer boredom? Very intelligent? Lashing out out of sheer boredom is not what an intelligent person does....an intelligent person reads a book when they are bored!
Sounds more like what someone who lacks intelligence does....childlike.
You're right about them being sweet....i wish they were sweet all the way through and not just on the surface....because they appear to be a gem until you get to know them....
I don't know....I am just searching for a reason to have faith in Pisces again.....but everywhere I turn, another horror story about Pisces....need something to substantiate this image of "sweetness" they manage to project.
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sorry, you experienced some real negative run-ins, yet at the same time, we each can only speak for ourselves, each unique, individual fish.
:my own experiences have been very positive with pisces.
:i aborh more than anything, seeing people suffer, and hate meaness, tactlessness no matter the sign .. (yet at the same time, it's astrologers that paint us sooo* (too?) sickeningly sweet, i mean realistically who can live up to the jesus/pisces ideology 24/7?)
:personally & coincidentally, the sign i find the most frustrating is Virgo. But still, i would never paint them all the same way.
(i have a question, though: why is it basically only "virgo's" that come here and hate us the most on dxp?)
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Yum: Instead of offering insight you have chosen to patronize me....
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mystic_fish: I appreciate your post. I guess living up to the description of virgos as "cold" is equally hard to live up to. Maybe the reason you get so many virgos that come here and "hate" on you is the same reason we get so many "pisces" that hate on us. We are opposite and don't understand each others ways. I find Pisces the most frustrating as well. This is why I am here trying to get answers. I want so much to understand why Pisces are the way they are. Other signs that are opposite each other seem to be able to get along, except virgo and pisces. We just seem to repulse each other to some degree. I noticed I seem to be OK with March-born Pisces but not Feb-born Pisces.
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"but everywhere I turn, another horror story about Pisces"
Maybe you need to stop viewing them as Pisces and start seeing them as just people.
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As with every other sign, some bad some good.
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"Inquiring Virgo here! "
How inquiring are you? Find out the rest of this persons chart and you may have more information to work with. Until then, you're just venting.
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I'm sorry you had a bad experience with a pisces virgo heart. But um what happened?
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Outcast: Thanks for your post. However, your perception of me couldn't be further from true. First, I know very well people are phony. I wish in my heart they weren't and I give people the benefit of the doubt, but I know the reality is ugly. Second, if you Pisces people were "who you are" you wouldn't have to struggle so much. The problem is, your everything to everybody until you get angry....Being yourself is not a struggle, trying to be someone or something you are not can however be a struggle. If Pisces were actually being who they are, maybe people wouldn't like them. Virgos are "laid back" as you say because they are not exerting their energies trying to be someone they are not. The problem therein is that because Virgos are who they are, they assume most people are as well, but it couldn't be further from the truth, especially when it comes to Pisces. Maybe that's why Pisces are known for their lying, deceiving, misrepresenting, swimming away....slippery nature....you Pisces are such great actors. Chameleons.
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bijou2u: you are wrong....see what I mean? I inquired here for some insight, and as typical you Pisces are unbelievable! maybe throwing poisoned bait is something you would do so you assume I would do the same....thanks for your input....I guess one of the other members was right....I wouldn't get an answer here....
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No, I have not been dealing with this issue for a while....I only posted this recently. My true colors....my mistake was trying to ask an honest question, expecting an honest answer....someone posted on this thread that I wouldn't get that in here, and they were right...thanks anyway!
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"DCVirgs: Have a drink on me! Glad to hear someone else feels this way.....
Thetis: Thanks for not bashing me! I just think Pisces people take it to another level....the darkest, most evil and inhumane level possible. It scares the **** out of me! I always protect myself against Pisces people....you never now what is lurking behind their sweet, kind and sensitive exterior....I have never experienced such a lack of sensitivity before....please explain..."

DCVirgs...I have experienced this as well. Never had anyone to describe it like that but soft and sweet on the outside, but cold and hard on the inside is exactly what it is. I think people that have close relationships with some pisces are very aware of this. To look at them you would never think they were capable of cruelty and inflicting pain on another.... but to know them...is a completely different story.
I think this is just a select few tho. My mother is a pisces and she is the sweetest woman alive.
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Oh yeah..it's true. You can never get a straight answer from a pisces...(this is true even for my mommy).
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This is why Virgos and Piscians will never see eye to eye which is why they're polar signs to one another. Just like how ill never seem to see eye to eye with Cancers. Although I try to understand them as much as any other sign. I can't say I agree with a lot of the accusations that have been made in this thread. I personally have found that it seems that the Pisces sign seems to get a generally bad reputation, which seems to be because they're usually misunderstood. Piscians on the other hand seem to welcome those from all walks of life without prejudicing them for their background. My brother is always a good example, he's quick to forgive others no matter how many times people hurt him. People have taken advantage of his hospitality though he rarely ever breathes a word of this to those people. His Aquarian girlfriend tries to break him down by reading him only to find that she can't seem to ever figure him out. They certainly are a mysterious sign. Although there are technicalities to compatibility, which is why influencing signs in natal charts should be taken into accountability. Take for example my pisces and I - her cap rising compliments my virgo moon, her gemini moon compliments my libra rising and our sun signs compliment each other.
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ok i'll try to explain my psyche to you female picses here. i do not take pleasure in the suffering of others but i am baffled at the sheer stupidity of others at times and yes i laugh out of an uneasy frustration. i'll explain more my job is to observe ppl and their behaviours and to communicate their psyche to others. when you see the same person doing the same behaviour for YEARS and getting the same negative result my commrnt to you(lets say) would seem cold and sarcastic while i wore a smirk on my face but internally.....well my emotions are deeply saddened, my empathy is so strong that if i expressed that.. you would think i am explaining that someone elses bad choices are acceptable and they are not. i know from years of trying to make mankind understand there are many facets to the human soul (and i feel everyone)positive and negative that others assume because I AM capable of this understanding that i must be like that or worse yet that i have no moral compass ....but i do...i want to imagine..john lennon sang about my paradise...ask any picses and they'll tell you thats a great song 99.9% just a world capable of loving each other and itself....until then pisces will protect itself from being the mirror of the world and those around them by appearing cold but trust me we feel every step we take you take and even the man on the mountain in tibet...it hurts really hurts
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"I've watched them ruthlessly manipulate and abuse people on an emotional level."
I've seen just about one person from every other sign do this type of thing, including more than a few Virgos...so what's your point?
In my opinion, and experience, pisces would never and could never be as devious as virgo. I've watched several of them steal the identities of their lovers/friends, pretend to be something they are not to trap the person, and then reveal their true selves only after they have achieved their goals.
Malicious, indeed.
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"Why do Pisces people enjoy watching others suffer?"
And actually, you might want to read up on your astrology. Pisces is one of the most compassionate signs. Definitely more so than your own. The questions you should be asking is what the other person did to elicit that response from a pisces. When you only have one side of the story, it's very easy to pass judgment.
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"Thats why so many Virgos think Pisces are these manipulative and deceitful people."
I agree. I think it's virgo's complete lack of intuition and inability to connect with emotion. The other two earth signs seem to have these traits to some degree, giving them an ability to understand and connect with us.
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Its that Pisean "saint or sinner" syndrome "without anything inbetween".
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Its probably due to oppositional tension what Virgo has Pisces does not have and what you get it although I don't know just how to feel this vibration in the same manner in which I would with my opposite Sagittarius other than I can say that its just an exotic oppositional aura - I love Sagittarius I cannot imagine my world without Sagittarius - this is my natural oppositional affinity I simply cannot imagine my world without my opposition. You might consider within the astrological association that what is oppositional both repels and attracts all at once, its inescapable so that you yourself cannot imagine your world without your opposite. I personally am tremendously thankful for it that's how it goes y'know.
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you will have the gender clash though - this again is an oppositional natural such as the Leo woman that is repelled by the Aquarius woman but becomes inexplicably attracted to the Aquarius man in line again Leo men avoiding Aquarius men - not the homophobia tangent no not that specifically (Yes Not That Specificall) referring to the oppositional complex. Libra girls avoiding Leo girls and Aries men competing with Libra men and so forth u get the idea.
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'specifically'
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"Can't you just let it go? We don't have to pay for something we didn't do. Your posts are really disturbing people here in a way that nobody really needs."
oh give it a rest, you are no angel to other's threads either...
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Interesting, JS, i was just thinking of *polar opposites* & who really does get along better than others. And for sure, sag & gem are way up there, if not the most complimentary. They actually have enough in common to smooth out the rougher bumps; both are fun-loving, talkative, gregarious - neither one consumed by too much emotion. Only real major difference being, it takes sags longer to get to the point, a bit more preachy and philosophical by nature, while gem's are much more glib and to the point. Opposites can either balance or teach.. *at the very least, all should respect each other's differences.. We wern't mean't to be alike; one thing we can agree on..
"Its that Pisean "saint or sinner" syndrome "without anything inbetween".
Another good point.. Pisces being (highly mutable) naturally chameleon by nature; which i think in-part, a bigger part of the 12th sign's intrigue, mystery & mystique..
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I really enjoy this message board. I wouldn't change it for the world. smile
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Socrates,
I can't believe this. I was just in Russia (of all places) and talking to an amazing Pisces. And "Imagine" by John Lennon was his favorite song! Man! Astrology is so accurate, it's scarey!
Eaglegirl
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ahh the art form and the message is why a pisces will always have this on their fave list will a scorp would have frankie goes to hollywood "relax don't do it"...lol... i joke a little probably more like salt and pepper "push it" take care eaglegirl and always be your higher self
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You're a martyr Virgoheart .... you get what you deserve, and you deserve what you love ... woe.
For 5 pages, you went on late last year, talking about how Virgos put their heart out on thier sleeve and give even when they know they are being taken advantage of .... and they do this on purpose because they want people to view them as a warm-loving heart. And then when people actually DO take what the Virgo is giving .. the Virgo feels so used and misunderstood.
What you don't get ... because a person views the above kind of behaviour as ingornant and so disregards doesn't make them insensitive and like to watch people suffer .... it means you are the fool by choice.
It's not likely you'll get any Pisces to pamper you after you've martyred yourself to get pity ... we're just more in-tune with reality than do to something like that.
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MY!! The response this thread has generated!!
Just one thing .."My mother is a pisces and she is the sweetest woman alive." from imitationoflyfe.I just loved that!!
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I didn't bother to read all the replies, I'm sure someone has mentioned. Pisces and Virgo are opposites, and it is not uncommon for them to feel uncomfortable/intimidated by the other. In my opinion someone's personality is a blend of their sun-sign and ascendant; there are many other things to consider besides their sun.
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"there are many other things to consider besides their sun."
I wish we could get this in a NEWBIE MANUAL on here somewhere. A FAQ, maybe?
Q: The sun sign is the entire make-up of a person's personality, right?
A: No, you stupid git.
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Outcast, once again you've proven my point...thanx smile
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Actually, the signs supposedly with the most serial killers have been Aries, Scorpio, Libra, and yes, Virgo. And which signs have the least number of serial killers, Cancer and Pisces. So while we may be prone to emotional manipulation at times, that hardly is "the darkest, most evil and inhumane level possible". That is if you can put any stock in this sort of bs, which is prob. what it is.
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So Virgo Heart, why not strike back with that same vengeance 10 fold? I'm sorry, I can't very well just let someone think they've got me beet without some type or reprisal....I need for my presence to be felt by them....that's it: No one, but NO ONE does that to me and thinks they can get off scott-free....I don't care how soft on the inside I am...but I agree with thetis on this....that's human nature and at some point or another we all feel that bitterness...that's what it is, bitterness, and jealousy, but specifically bitterness that makes people enjoy others suffering becuase of a personal injustice the bitter person might have suffered, it causes them to wish/will anyone in their immediate range to feel what they feel....it's as they say, 'misery loves company' don't allow yourself to be present in that company.
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Also VH, I hear what your saying about not wanting to give up on someone or something: but I can't say that I'm beyond feeling dark, deep feelings.....still fighting off my rage my self....well not rage specifically, but more like dissapointment....that dissapointment had twisted inside me and prevents me from opening and purifying myself....that's a major reason why I try to remain so quiet to others....I'm focusing on keeping that monster in...I often wondered if I could show that part of myself, (the wounded part) to another human being, and that person would be the one I'd share everything with....I don't like being kept in this prison I've some how constructed for myself....It's subconscious it's as if it's out of my control, but I have to find it in my to expel that pain, and stop using it like a weapon....catastrophes happen in our lives....I find myself even in a type of emotional 'shock/paralysis'....I find that in destiny I have to learn humility and forgiveness.....I still struggle with it....
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I'm a 21 y.o Piscean
From my experience, every Virgo I know are always attempting to make there problem's, mine or whoever else is around.
They read too much into things and it's always about them.
I view them as self-destructive people who can hold grudges for as long as it takes.
When they're in a good mood, they are kind, very comical and generously giving.
I am only sensitve when I feel that I don't deserve hypocrisy due to one's frustration at the time, especially when I never Initially dish it out.
Its all about respect and I give plenty of that.
Most of the time I am happy and cheerful, but when something frustrates me, I begin to get anal over everything, mindlessly finding more excuses to get angry about.
Its true I can over-exaggerate certain things, reason being there may be an ulterior motive to what kind of result I want, which I usually get.
Deception and manipulation is human nature, deal with it.
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"They read too much into things and it's always about them. I view them as self-destructive people who can hold grudges for as long as it takes."
BINGO! This has been my experience with virgos also. The women, in my opinion, are the most manipulative of the entire zodiac. And the weakest. I've known several who stay with men who treat them like utter garbage.
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Because people LOVE to go fishing.
They figure it's payback.
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hmm...opposition can be fun...i know first hand...exhausting, but exciting...and definitely worth every single second...
(looks over shoulder at virgo wife laying on bed watching tv)...
i am not sure, though...about the 'pisces enjoys watching others suffer'...statement though...i am quite good at self expression, however...regardless of how sure i am of what i say/explain/etc...opposite signs just seem to be 'wired' mentally in a totally different (yet somehow, still compatible) fashion...we don't look at things the same way sometimes...and although it may seem to you that we 'enjoy' the witnessing of another persons suffering...in reality, it's the last thing we want to experience...
-jack
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