things you would have liked to have known before getting married

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calling married people (and divorced people too)


what are the things/advice/perspectives/warnings you would have liked to have known before getting married? are there things you felt you should have considered? conversations you should have had? things you that would have prepared you?


looking back, are there mistakes you made during the marriage? or things that you feel make it work?


good, bad and ugly stories are all welcome
My marriage to a double Libra with Taurus moon was quite harmonious, and sprinkled with highly exciting, adventurous times when we traveled the world off the beaten track, or found ourselves united against the system, like when we illegally crossed the Swiss border or “occupied” the Austrian embassy in Bucharest.


We had in common a very high tolerance for risk, which unfortunately translated into an opportunistic recklessness for the Libra during the stock market crash of 2008 and led also to the downfall of our marriage, after I was left to sort out his mess, almost single handed.


The advice I would give is to understand that your marriage is a contract, and so the actions of any of you will have consequences for the other, no matter how little involvement you had. Take financial advice, always from a third party expert, and not from your spouse. Do not be lazy and let your spouse to deal with your finances!


Keep your main accounts separate, and if you open one in common, keep a hawk eye on it and make sure you CLOSE it once you no longer need it. Bankers are also people, and so gullible to manipulating behaviour. If the thought that your signature will be required to overdraw your common account gives you peace of mind, think again. Apparently a “my wife is abroad and will sign when she comes, may I borrow 90000 euro to play with on the stock market” was enough to circumvent the rules.
I’d like to have known how the familiarity of living together day in, day out could become so tedious

I learned, I wont get married again :-)
Another thing to know, is that sexual attraction goes down the hill once the familiarity steps in, which is always the case, no matter how you try to spice things up.


Luckily, there is an easy remedy to it. It's called "sex almost every day". Base it on habit, not something as unreliable as attraction, and it will not go away. Your brain wants to do whatever it has been doing on a regular basis. Take a lengthy break from sex while keep sharing the house and bed, and you brain will come to think that your SO is your sibling, even if you never had one!


Use it, or lose it Winking
I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....
I once had a discussion with 2 guys (different races), that stated, “Marriage ruins relationships”. 😐

I was at their work place, buying new tires, and we started to converse.

One spoke from experience of a previously failed Marriage 😕 (who said they were together at least 7 yrs and happy 😃 prior to Marriage), and the other was currently in a long term relationship, but opted not to get married bc he felt the same way.

I only mentioned race because it was funny to have 2 guys from different backgrounds, have the same opinion on the issue.

Like how does a piece of paper 📑 change the dynamic to that extent 🧐

I agree with you Star 🌟…a lot of people just don’t have it in them to make that kind of commitment
Posted by Sleepyquantro1
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....


I once had a discussion with 2 guys (different races), that stated, “Marriage ruins relationships”. 😐

I was at their work place, buying new tires, and we started to converse.

One spoke from experience of a previously failed Marriage 😕 (who said they were together at least 7 yrs and happy 😃 prior to Marriage), and the other was currently in a long term relationship, but opted not to get married bc he felt the same way.

I only mentioned race because it was funny to have 2 guys from different backgrounds, have the same opinion on the issue.

Like how does a piece of paper 📑 change the dynamic to that extent 🧐

I agree with you Star 🌟…a lot of people just don’t have it in them to make that kind of commitment
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It’s psychological....signing your love life away forever Scared. That’s one reason why people wait till they’re married before having affairs lol.

We change over the years....our needs goals etc can shift so to sign up to one person is a tough call for some
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Sleepyquantro1
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....


I once had a discussion with 2 guys (different races), that stated, “Marriage ruins relationships”. 😐

I was at their work place, buying new tires, and we started to converse.

One spoke from experience of a previously failed Marriage 😕 (who said they were together at least 7 yrs and happy 😃 prior to Marriage), and the other was currently in a long term relationship, but opted not to get married bc he felt the same way.

I only mentioned race because it was funny to have 2 guys from different backgrounds, have the same opinion on the issue.

Like how does a piece of paper 📑 change the dynamic to that extent 🧐

I agree with you Star 🌟…a lot of people just don’t have it in them to make that kind of commitment


It’s psychological....signing your love life away forever Scared. That’s one reason why people wait till they’re married before having affairs lol.

We change over the years....our needs goals etc can shift so to sign up to one person is a tough call for some
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I don’t think I want to get married lol

💭I think it’s easier when it’s time to leave/move out, not having to worry about dividing assets, adding extra emotional turmoil. 🙅🏽‍♀️😂

That honeymoon isn't what i thought it was. A moon dipped in honey. Unless...
Posted by Sleepyquantro1
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Sleepyquantro1
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....


I once had a discussion with 2 guys (different races), that stated, “Marriage ruins relationships”. 😐

I was at their work place, buying new tires, and we started to converse.

One spoke from experience of a previously failed Marriage 😕 (who said they were together at least 7 yrs and happy 😃 prior to Marriage), and the other was currently in a long term relationship, but opted not to get married bc he felt the same way.

I only mentioned race because it was funny to have 2 guys from different backgrounds, have the same opinion on the issue.

Like how does a piece of paper 📑 change the dynamic to that extent 🧐

I agree with you Star 🌟…a lot of people just don’t have it in them to make that kind of commitment


It’s psychological....signing your love life away forever Scared. That’s one reason why people wait till they’re married before having affairs lol.

We change over the years....our needs goals etc can shift so to sign up to one person is a tough call for some


I don’t think I want to get married lol

💭I think it’s easier when it’s time to leave/move out, not having to worry about dividing assets, adding extra emotional turmoil. 🙅🏽‍♀️😂
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I don’t think there’s so much need nowadays...long ago women married for financial security. Life has moved on and upwards in that regard


Keep your third finger, left hand in your pocket 😀😂
Get ready for the complacency. Once you bag them, you can ignore them and go on with your life.
Complacency can be combatted with communication. We let ours drop and turned into strangers. It doesn't have to happen that way but we were young and stupid.
Relationship with yourself must be firmly built and strong.


You must be aware that challenges will surely arrive and be ready for it.


You must be able to love and find happiness to and within yourself first.


You must be mentally and emotionally stable.


You must be willing to be tolerant.


You must have good communication and negotiation skills.


You must be aware that it is not about you anymore when you decide to get married.


That's what I can say for now.

Not that I have all those qualities, but actually because I have learnt that those qualities need to be there in you after getting married.

Coz.. having to catch up with those things isn't nice to find out.
Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....
For real tho

And that concept of 'till death do us part' was a bit easier to stomach when the average life expectancy was 40.... if your lucky.
Posted by LadyNeptune
Posted by MyStarsShine

I think the concept of promising to be with one person forever and ever amen is a pretty tall order to say the least


Not viable for a lot of people....


For real tho

And that concept of 'till death do us part' was a bit easier to stomach when the average life expectancy was 40.... if your lucky.
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Exactly!


You may have had a potential of 20 yrs together instead of a possible 60 😲
Posted by Subliminals

Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.
Sounds hopeful.....how long have you been married?
thanks everyone for their input.


definitely food for thought. i appreciate your words of wisdom.
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals

Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.


Sounds hopeful.....how long have you been married?
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Just 3 yrs lol
I think communication should be made a priority. I was married for a long time and I used to go to bed mad , but forgot why I was mad once I woke up in the morning. So it was fine for me.


We both went out with friends by ourselves. We also went on couple dates with others.

We spent time together, just us, and used to turn our phones off or just not even answer it or look to see who was calling/texting.


We never stopped doing things together. We continuously dated and went on dates.


Sex was never a bore, I used to drive to his work for quickies sometimes, have sex in cars etc- we used to talk dirty and send each other videos- and this is after 20 years of being together.

I think it wasn't boring because I like variety and don't like routine. We didn't have sex daily. I don't like it everyday but it was a few times a week.


We got along great and were each others best friends, so it was basically easy to stay in a relationship.

It ended because financially I couldn't do it anymore. He just blew threw too much money and I was the one always making up for his spending. I got tired of never getting ahead.
Oh boy! This is a good topic.

I’m divorced and I wish I knew being married is not a fairytale like everyone sees it. It’s a lot harder than you think.


I wish I knew that having a wedding ring on your finger doesn’t guarantee faithfulness in a marriage. It’s all BS and a lie!!! People need to open their eyes 👀 and realize that a marriage is just papers. That’s it. It doesn’t guarantee happiness. Also the whole wedding thing should be intimate. No need to spend thousands of $ $ $ and do a whole year of planning for an event that will only last a day. It’s quite pathetic.
Posted by Subliminals
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals

Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.


Sounds hopeful.....how long have you been married?


Just 3 yrs lol
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Honeymoon period

😂😍
I’ve been married twice and divorced twice. Would be really surprised if I ever do it again. First time 2 years ( together 4), second time 17 together (20).


Biggest take away from the first - keep separate bank accounts & credit cards. Don’t assume an immature spouse naturally grows up.


Second one.. don’t sacrifice yourself trying to save another.


Biggest thing to look for, that a partner doesn’t avoid issues, but works through them with you. That was the biggest problem in both honestly. Although other side effects from this problem happened.


Sex was always there with the longer relationship, we were compatible, and crazy in love. Baggage was bigger.


My advice. Choose love. Be loving, caring, understanding but choose yourself always. There are demons that you just can’t fight, they will hurt you in the end so working through problems in the relationship and working on yourself is imperative. Enjoy the good times! What is life without joy and love?
Hmmm, there are some things you just don't really ever know the extent of from the outside that you discover when married/living together. Especially when it comes to your spouse's family. Of course people don't ever usually disclose how much their family and relatives are pathetic financial leeches. My husband has even attempted to get me to 'help'. Fuck that. I put my foot down for it... at least as sweetly as one could. Because once you start... It won't stop, then you'll become the bad guy if you ever stop. So might as well be the 'bad guy' up front by not starting it at all. I also been working on manifesting his family and relatives to stop being leeches (they make their own six figures and all) because it's fucking annoying seeing their pathetic faces so often. I believe it worked because we will be moving to another city next year... and let me tell you I'd never imagined that could ever happen as we both grew up in our current city and have always lived here.


Marriage has taught me to master the art of keeping my psycho, ill-intentioned in-laws distant whilst still coming off as the innocent one who doesn't want any rift between them.


Definitely have your own separate financial accounts and make sure you're never the one mostly footing expenses.


And yes I very much agree with being loving, caring and understanding but freaking make sure any decisions you both make also benefits you cause you should never lose yourself to the marriage.
What about relationships that were long term but never ended up in marriage? Ivr learned that what you see is what you get, therefore..its very important to observe and see them before they can make you miserable or resentful or whatever. Space is also an necessity in any long-term relationship.
I now tell my new relationships that if I marry again it will be forever. Until death do us part - natural causes or murder/suicide. They usually disappear after that. Pussies.
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals

Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.


Sounds hopeful.....how long have you been married?


Just 3 yrs lol


Honeymoon period

😂😍
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I swear its not lol

But I have lost my rose colored glasses since a yr ago..

Ideas of getting divorced or separated often got thrown out during fights..


My situation is way far from honeymoon period. I didnt get the actual honeymoon.


So.
Posted by Subliminals
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by Subliminals

Oh, honeymoon doesn't have to be just once.


Rekindle passion and attraction are virtues.


Sounds hopeful.....how long have you been married?


Just 3 yrs lol


Honeymoon period

😂😍


I swear its not lol

But I have lost my rose colored glasses since a yr ago..

Ideas of getting divorced or separated often got thrown out during fights..


My situation is way far from honeymoon period. I didnt get the actual honeymoon.


So.
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Can you take a belated honeymoon, maybe?
Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!
thanks @81gems
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


Firstly, you are talking the obvious… work, compromise, patience. No relationship will take off without them, let alone survive the first -unmarried- year!


The problem you have, is assuming that both parties will do this equally and forever. This is as ridiculous at it sounds!


Of course you trust your partner to begin with, but this should not mean putting your rose glasses on. People change a lot over the years, let alone decades. Not necessarily their personality, but goals, emotional investment and core values do change!


If you were “lucky” and your marriage is still strong after 20 years, you don’t need to tell people off for having been less lucky than you! You don’t need to tell people to blindly trust one another, since this is the reason why so many unhappy marriages exists.


It takes TWO, okay? I’ve seen 20+ years marriages in which one partner was a serial cheater. Or exploited financially the other. Or gaslighting and abusing the other! Or was stealing money from common accounts, all their common savings, so the “hard working” one couldn’t even afford a divorce without becoming homeless! So STFO!


People almost always get married for the “right reasons” and more often than not, one partner gets screwed up. Retrospectively, they should have signed a prenup, kept the accounts separated and watched the other like a hawk. Or closed their eyes, be taken advantage of and found themselves the laugh of the town or even destitute, 2-20 years later.


Ironically, it’s exactly the people who have been working hard, had shown blind trust, gave unconditional love and care and were financially responsible, that got screwed over, again and again!


Marriage is a contract. It mainly takes care of the surviving partner when the other one dies. Ideal for people over 40. Unfortunately, there is a lot of social pressure for people in their 30es to tie the knot as well. So STFO with your last century advice!


SMH
Posted by jeane

calling married people (and divorced people too)


what are the things/advice/perspectives/warnings you would have liked to have known before getting married? are there things you felt you should have considered? conversations you should have had? things you that would have prepared you?


looking back, are there mistakes you made during the marriage? or things that you feel make it work?


good, bad and ugly stories are all welcome


Oh god I can't stress this enough,


THE #1 RULE

If you wouldn't be friends with them without the physical relationship and/or feelings, don't marry or have children with them period.


You are doomed without this. It's inevitable.
Posted by saggurl88

I think communication should be made a priority. I was married for a long time and I used to go to bed mad , but forgot why I was mad once I woke up in the morning. So it was fine for me.


We both went out with friends by ourselves. We also went on couple dates with others.

We spent time together, just us, and used to turn our phones off or just not even answer it or look to see who was calling/texting.


We never stopped doing things together. We continuously dated and went on dates.


Sex was never a bore, I used to drive to his work for quickies sometimes, have sex in cars etc- we used to talk dirty and send each other videos- and this is after 20 years of being together.

I think it wasn't boring because I like variety and don't like routine. We didn't have sex daily. I don't like it everyday but it was a few times a week.


We got along great and were each others best friends, so it was basically easy to stay in a relationship.

It ended because financially I couldn't do it anymore. He just blew threw too much money and I was the one always making up for his spending. I got tired of never getting ahead.
Too bad he wasn’t financially responsible/stable 😬, this sounds like the perfect relationship 🤦🏽‍♀️
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Posted by 81gems

The problem you have, is assuming that both parties will do this equally and forever. This is as ridiculous at it sounds!
🙄


Great way of thinking. It’s why the divorce rate is 50% no?


This IS what’s required of a married couple. But if people are going to share your views of it being nothing more than a “contract,” well, no wonder it doesn’t work out for a lot of them.


As for the rest of what you said, no shit, Sherlock. Learned all of that over 10 years ago.


Gtfo? I think you meant get the fuck out? Yeah. Exactly. Get the fuck outta here now.



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Op are you considering tying the knot?
Posted by Rainbow87

Oh boy! This is a good topic.

I’m divorced and I wish I knew being married is not a fairytale like everyone sees it. It’s a lot harder than you think.


I wish I knew that having a wedding ring on your finger doesn’t guarantee faithfulness in a marriage. It’s all BS and a lie!!! People need to open their eyes 👀 and realize that a marriage is just papers. That’s it. It doesn’t guarantee happiness. Also the whole wedding thing should be intimate. No need to spend thousands of $ $ $ and do a whole year of planning for an event that will only last a day. It’s quite pathetic.


This is why I don't like the idea of marriage or stand for it's meaning. My parents have been married for 45 years! FORTY FIVE YEARS!!! Things have leveled out and aren't as bad as they used to be as they were growing up. I always thought we had it good because my parents weren't divorced but I would wish upon a star that my dad would disappear from our lives or at the very least my mom would leave him. Sometimes if you're as faithful as my mom you will hold on and face the crashing waves regardless of the countless times you're close to drowning and gasping for air. I condone my mom for what she did for us but I honestly felt and a part of me still feels she could of done WAY better. He may be a better version of who he used to be but I can't forgive the things he put her through. I personally feel marriage is a scam. It's for profit. The amount you spend on jewelry, the wedding, the house, and the babies. All for what? To showcase your "LOVE" for one another as you behave the first year until you're allowed to be your worst self. Luckily, not many people marry by the church and even when they do thankfully they don't feel shame in divorcing because... why would you force an individual to remain in a contract that is toxic to their well-being?
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Posted by Rainbow87

Oh boy! This is a good topic.

I’m divorced and I wish I knew being married is not a fairytale like everyone sees it. It’s a lot harder than you think.


I wish I knew that having a wedding ring on your finger doesn’t guarantee faithfulness in a marriage. It’s all BS and a lie!!! People need to open their eyes 👀 and realize that a marriage is just papers. That’s it. It doesn’t guarantee happiness. Also the whole wedding thing should be intimate. No need to spend thousands of $ $ $ and do a whole year of planning for an event that will only last a day. It’s quite pathetic.


This is why I don't like the idea of marriage or stand for it's meaning. My parents have been married for 45 years! FORTY FIVE YEARS!!! Things have leveled out and aren't as bad as they used to be as they were growing up. I always thought we had it good because my parents weren't divorced but I would wish upon a star that my dad would disappear from our lives or at the very least my mom would leave him. Sometimes if you're as faithful as my mom you will hold on and face the crashing waves regardless of the countless times you're close to drowning and gasping for air. I condemn my mom for what she did for us but I honestly felt and a part of me still feels she could of done WAY better. He may be a better version of who he used to be but I can't forgive the things he put her through. I personally feel marriage is a scam. It's for profit. The amount you spend on jewelry, the wedding, the house, and the babies. All for what? To showcase your "LOVE" for one another as you behave the first year until you're allowed to be your worst self. Luckily, not many people marry by the church and even when they do thankfully they don't feel shame in divorcing because... why would you force an individual to remain in a contract that is toxic to their well-being?
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Life sentence lol


You’d get less for murder🥴
Posted by geminiflyby

I now tell my new relationships that if I marry again it will be forever. Until death do us part - natural causes or murder/suicide. They usually disappear after that. Pussies.
you're not wrong my brother asked for a divorce she said no and he killed himself... its unfortunate but it happens
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Posted by virghost
Posted by Rainbow87

Oh boy! This is a good topic.

I’m divorced and I wish I knew being married is not a fairytale like everyone sees it. It’s a lot harder than you think.


I wish I knew that having a wedding ring on your finger doesn’t guarantee faithfulness in a marriage. It’s all BS and a lie!!! People need to open their eyes 👀 and realize that a marriage is just papers. That’s it. It doesn’t guarantee happiness. Also the whole wedding thing should be intimate. No need to spend thousands of $ $ $ and do a whole year of planning for an event that will only last a day. It’s quite pathetic.


This is why I don't like the idea of marriage or stand for it's meaning. My parents have been married for 45 years! FORTY FIVE YEARS!!! Things have leveled out and aren't as bad as they used to be as they were growing up. I always thought we had it good because my parents weren't divorced but I would wish upon a star that my dad would disappear from our lives or at the very least my mom would leave him. Sometimes if you're as faithful as my mom you will hold on and face the crashing waves regardless of the countless times you're close to drowning and gasping for air. I condemn my mom for what she did for us but I honestly felt and a part of me still feels she could of done WAY better. He may be a better version of who he used to be but I can't forgive the things he put her through. I personally feel marriage is a scam. It's for profit. The amount you spend on jewelry, the wedding, the house, and the babies. All for what? To showcase your "LOVE" for one another as you behave the first year until you're allowed to be your worst self. Luckily, not many people marry by the church and even when they do thankfully they don't feel shame in divorcing because... why would you force an individual to remain in a contract that is toxic to their well-being?


Life sentence lol


You’d get less for murder🥴
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sad yet true no wonder some people look at killing as a viable option
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Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


Firstly, you are talking the obvious… work, compromise, patience. No relationship will take off without them, let alone survive the first -unmarried- year!


The problem you have, is assuming that both parties will do this equally and forever. This is as ridiculous at it sounds!


Of course you trust your partner to begin with, but this should not mean putting your rose glasses on. People change a lot over the years, let alone decades. Not necessarily their personality, but goals, emotional investment and core values do change!


If you were “lucky” and your marriage is still strong after 20 years, you don’t need to tell people off for having been less lucky than you! You don’t need to tell people to blindly trust one another, since this is the reason why so many unhappy marriages exists.


It takes TWO, okay? I’ve seen 20+ years marriages in which one partner was a serial cheater. Or exploited financially the other. Or gaslighting and abusing the other! Or was stealing money from common accounts, all their common savings, so the “hard working” one couldn’t even afford a divorce without becoming homeless! So STFO!


People almost always get married for the “right reasons” and more often than not, one partner gets screwed up. Retrospectively, they should have signed a prenup, kept the accounts separated and watched the other like a hawk. Or closed their eyes, be taken advantage of and found themselves the laugh of the town or even destitute, 2-20 years later.


Ironically, it’s exactly the people who have been working hard, had shown blind trust, gave unconditional love and care and were financially responsible, that got screwed over, again and again!


Marriage is a contract. It mainly takes care of the surviving partner when the other one dies. Ideal for people over 40. Unfortunately, there is a lot of social pressure for people in their 30es to tie the knot as well. So STFO with your last century advice!


SMH


Yes, her whole post was dedicated to telling other people off or putting them down rather than actual advice. Like she is better than others.


Awfully pretentious, eh?


@Undine , you’re married as well. I will check the thread for your advice.
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Had been married for 17 years.


As for this nutter and her "Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice", this is probably what she tells her poor husband every day, to justify her unreasonable demands and shitty behaviour Big Grin



Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!
Nah, I'm sorry but no. My parents born and raised in a third world country with a lot of unspoken trauma regardless of the times then and now doesn't change the fact how deeply they got to know one another. You may know someone deeply but unfortunately unforeseeable things do happen where the person you deeply knew, changes. Whether it's a temporary or forever change it still impacts a marriage. Damage done, is still damage. Point blank marriage is a contract, a paper signed by two parties stating that they'll be sworn to a life together where they share assets until one of them dies. It does work if you want it to, that's true. I feel like people don't talk enough or bother doing internal work within themselves before dragging someone along for the ride of their life because it can ruin another's spirit for eternity. Marriage is a flex for many, don't know why.
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Posted by geminiflyby

I now tell my new relationships that if I marry again it will be forever. Until death do us part - natural causes or murder/suicide. They usually disappear after that. Pussies.


you're not wrong my brother asked for a divorce she said no and he killed himself... its unfortunate but it happens
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How awful


So devastating 😔
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Posted by virghost
Posted by geminiflyby

I now tell my new relationships that if I marry again it will be forever. Until death do us part - natural causes or murder/suicide. They usually disappear after that. Pussies.


you're not wrong my brother asked for a divorce she said no and he killed himself... its unfortunate but it happens


How awful


So devastating 😔
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It was. Makes me contemplate people, life, and traditions in a different light.
Posted by virghost
Posted by MyStarsShine
Posted by virghost
Posted by geminiflyby

I now tell my new relationships that if I marry again it will be forever. Until death do us part - natural causes or murder/suicide. They usually disappear after that. Pussies.


you're not wrong my brother asked for a divorce she said no and he killed himself... its unfortunate but it happens


How awful


So devastating 😔


It was. Makes me contemplate people, life, and traditions in a different light.
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Changes everything. I’m so sorry for you and your family 😥
Posted by stardustmop
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


I’m going to go out on a limb and say your husband has made A LOT of mistakes.
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What human being in any marriage doesn’t?


Again part of the fantasy that mistakes should be minimal, or less.


What matters is the TYPE and if they’re continually repeated without care for the other person.
Posted by virghost
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


Nah, I'm sorry but no. My parents born and raised in a third world country with a lot of unspoken trauma regardless of the times then and now doesn't change the fact how deeply they got to know one another. You may know someone deeply but unfortunately unforeseeable things do happen where the person you deeply knew, changes. Whether it's a temporary or forever change it still impacts a marriage. Damage done, is still damage. Point blank marriage is a contract, a paper signed by two parties stating that they'll be sworn to a life together where they share assets until one of them dies. It does work if you want it to, that's true. I feel like people don't talk enough or bother doing internal work within themselves before dragging someone along for the ride of their life because it can ruin another's spirit for eternity. Marriage is a flex for many, don't know why.
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Well I suppose we *could* look at marriage the way you do; merely a legal institution or some crap like that.


Then again, we’re supposedly humans beings and not robots, so…
Posted by 81gems
Posted by virghost
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


Nah, I'm sorry but no. My parents born and raised in a third world country with a lot of unspoken trauma regardless of the times then and now doesn't change the fact how deeply they got to know one another. You may know someone deeply but unfortunately unforeseeable things do happen where the person you deeply knew, changes. Whether it's a temporary or forever change it still impacts a marriage. Damage done, is still damage. Point blank marriage is a contract, a paper signed by two parties stating that they'll be sworn to a life together where they share assets until one of them dies. It does work if you want it to, that's true. I feel like people don't talk enough or bother doing internal work within themselves before dragging someone along for the ride of their life because it can ruin another's spirit for eternity. Marriage is a flex for many, don't know why.


Well I suppose we *could* look at marriage the way you do; merely a legal institution or some crap like that.


Then again, we’re supposedly humans beings and not robots, so…
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it is all legality you are aware? as humans we wouldn't do half the stuff we do because it's all in order to keep us in a structured society but go ahead preach about how marriage is in our nature of evolution...


didn't know cavemen were out there catching bouquets but okay
Posted by stardustmop
Posted by 81gems
Posted by stardustmop
Posted by 81gems

Been married almost 20 years.


I see a lot of bad advice on this thread by people who divorced, or never got married and only knew others who were also divorced.


Marriage is a tremendous balancing act and a huge sacrifice. People these days, and 10 years ago, 5 years ago, etc. don’t take the time to really get to know one another on deep levels. They don’t know how to talk to each other, can’t admit mistakes, don’t help the other person grow along with them. If you read that and think it’s not your “job” to help your spouse grow into the best versions of themselves don’t get married.


If you go into a marriage thinking it’s a “starter” one or that divorce should be easy fix don’t get married. If you want to keep your finances separate, you obviously don’t have enough faith or trust in the other person so, yeah, DON’T GET MARRIED! It really is that simple, yet people are too stupid to understand.


The question of “did you make mistakes in the marriage” is no different than “did you make any mistakes in life?” Seriously, who ever told you marriages should be mistake free? That sexual attraction is a give, and that love will always ooze? Who told you passion never wanes? Who told you marriage didn’t require work?


Married couples need to be able to compromise, give of themselves even when they don’t want to. Most people suck at marriage and can’t see staying in it for the long haul, so they bail. They don’t stop to problem solve. Too busy, disinterested, or selfish to try and repair damage.


It takes a hell of a lot of a lot of stuff to be married and most kids today have the wrong idea about what marriage should do for THEM. So yeah, most people are too ignorant to be married.


There is no one thing that “works” on its own. But years ago, my husband told me “it works if you want it to.” He’s right. But the “want” requires hard work, patience, compromise, dedication from BOTH people involved. If this isn’t something you’re prepared to do, DON’T GET MARRIED!


I’m going to go out on a limb and say your husband has made A LOT of mistakes.


What human being in any marriage doesn’t?


Again part of the fantasy that mistakes should be minimal, or less.


What matters is the TYPE and if they’re continually repeated without care for the other person.


My point was, your tone about marriage seems very bitter. You speak about it as something you’re forced to endure.


I have very good family friends who have been married 55 years. They started with joint accounts and after wifey over-drafted the account several (dozen) times, they now have separate accounts 🙃 and they’re doing just fine.


Considering money troubles is one of the leading causes of divorce, I think it’s very prudent to keep some finances separate. It takes just as must trust to pool your money together in one pot as it does to trust your partner to make smart financial decisions without your oversight. I might even argue it takes more trust.
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No. Not forced. It’s like life. We may love it, but there are just some days when we don’t like it very much.


Some people stay in marriages because they fear being alone

Not a great reason to be with someone....
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